[geeklog-modules] Suggested CSS standards for plugins

[Simon Lord]

No hot button Tom, more of a panic button.  You saw through our efforts 
before we intended to release them and I just wanted to prevent any 
enterprising pups from interpreting your post as something which hasn't 
been done and going off on a tangent and doing something about it.

So, no ill will towards you or your post.  And I'm not suggesting *you* 
would start an effort to create a common template, but you really read 
through the lines on Blaine's post quite easily, and followed that up 
with such a clear response that you pretty much outted us before we 
were ready to present our efforts.

I guess that's the point I was trying to make.  But I suck at writing 
clearly so there ya go.


On Dec 1, 2004, at 12:45 PM, Tom wrote:

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> Subject: Re: [geeklog-modules] Suggested CSS standards for plugins
>
> I say hurrah.  I would even go so far as to suggest a common set of 
> generic templates.  Providing and requiring the use of a more 
> consistent GUI would make it easier for everyone - Programmers, 
> Themers and Users alike.  Of course to make it work it will have to be 
> well documented.
>
> The templates already exist. However, no one has the time at the 
> moment to document it all. Dirk is maintaining/supporting it to a 
> degree but I haven't had any free time lately. I've been working with 
> Blaine to help him update the forum and we figured it would be easier 
> to weasel in our efforts slowly by integrating a subset of the work 
> we've done to date on the templates just on the forum specifically.
>
> The issue at hand is that maintaining a module as complex as the forum 
> is a real pain in the ass if it's not somehow tied to the theme. What 
> I mean by this is that lots of Geeklog users put some solid hours into 
> designing creative themes only to have that work thoroughly VOIDED by 
> a non compliant module because they are NOT designed to be theme 
> friendly. So Blaine and I spent the better part of a year trying to 
> solve this issue through css.
>
> The idea is to *suggest* to module developers to use an approved list 
> of css tags that would be tied into the entire theme. This way simply 
> dropping a new module into any GL installation would result in that 
> module INSTANTLY looking like the current overall theme of the site 
> and saving the site owner hours if not days of hard work.
>
> That said, understand that all this work is already done, please don't 
> go and try to create some common set of generic templates and css 
> standards. Blaine and I spent a year doing this already (with Dirk's 
> loving approval). I just need some free time to create a design 
> document for it, hopefully Blaine can create something on a smaller 
> scale for module developers while I author one for theme 
> developers.(?)
>
> Maybe during the Holidays?
>
>
> --
>  Tom Willett
> tomw at pigstye.net
>
> Sincerely,
> Simon
>  
> Maybe you misunderstood, I was simply saying that I applaud the effort 
> to make things easier and more uniform and encouraging more such 
> work.  Excuse if I hit a hot button. 
>
Sincerely,
Simon
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