[Neurons] 2015 "Neurons" Meta Reflections #43

Mon Oct 5 06:10:33 EDT 2015

From: L. Michael Hall

Meta Reflections #43

October 5, 2015

A What if ...

WHAT IF BANDLER

HAD MODELED MASLOW?

"Every age but ours has had its model, its hero.  All these have been given
us by our culture; the hero, the gentleman, the knight, the mystic.  About
all we have left is the well-adjusted man without problems, a very pale and
doubtful substitute.  Perhaps we shall soon be able to use as our guide and
model the fully growing and self-fulfilling human being, the one in whom all
his potentialities are coming to full development, the one whose inner
nature expresses itself freely, rather than being warped, repressed, or
denied." Abraham Maslow, Toward a Psychology of Being, p. 4.

Now if Bandler had modeled Maslow rather than Perls, then yes indeed, how
different indeed NLP would be!  Well, after all, history is the story of
accidents, coincides, and unplanned events- probably to a greater extent
than planned strategic occurrences.  That's especially true of the beginning
of NLP.  It all began in 1972 when young college student Richard Bandler
accidently found himself in a situation where he got the opportunity to
listen to audio tapes of Fritz Perls.  That happened because of another
accident, some years earlier, when he got acquainted with Dr. Robert Spitzer
and his family when he had a speech impediment.  And that led to another
fortunate opportunity, he got a part-time job in the warehouse of Science
and Behavior Books. 

Then, it just so happened that Dr. Spitzer, the publisher for both Fritz
Perls and Virginia Satir, receive a lot of audio-tapes of Perls' speeches
after Fritz died on March 14, 1970.  So he decided that he could now finish
the last book which Fritz had been working on.  That's when Dr. Spitzer got
Richard, who was 21 at the time, to listen to those tapes and transcribe
them.  That's how it came about that Richard "modeled" Fritz Perls- he heard
the voice, tone, and language patterns of Perls with his gruff and frog-like
voice doing the gestalt conversations like having someone hallucinate his
mother in a chair and yelling at her.  Richard thought it was funny.  So he
began playing around mimicking the psycho-drama of Perls.  Then, from that,
somehow Frank got him to "do" Gestalt as a class at Kresgie College, and out
of that NLP eventually arose.

But Fritz was not exactly the best person to model.  By his own admission in
his biography, In and Out of the Garbage Can, he was a "dirty old man" and
proud of it.  He was rough and crude, cursed a lot and smoked even more, he
had numerous mistresses, and he loved getting into the hot sulpher pools at
Esalen with the young girls.  In spite of his character flaws and lack of
applying the Human Potential principles to himself, or maybe because of
them, Perls was the person Richard modeled.  Then, with Perls as his model,
Perls set the tone for how Bandler play out his life for during the next few
decades as he, consciously or unconsciously, incarnated Perls.

"He [Perls] liked to refer to himself as a dirty old man, and often
introduced himself as such..." Anderson, 1983, p. 131.

Perls' style, using Gestalt, was full of theatrical and dramatic techniques.
It was a good show!  He believed that life is a stage and so using the "hot
seat" he led experiences of psycho-drama- 

"... the more crying and volume, the better.  Fritz would encourage the
individual to project the various personalities of his or her psyche into
the room and deal with them verbally and emotionally in an attempt to
reintegrate the fractured self and so create a new gestalt or whole."
(Kripal, 163)

And that's what happened in the early days (1972) when Bandler and Pucelik
began their Gestalt Awareness class in Santa Cruz as Terry McClendon noted
in The Wild Days of NLP.

But what if ... what if Dr. Spitzer had been the publisher for Maslow and
what if he had received a box full of tapes of speeches and presentations of
Maslow, and what if Richard had modeled Maslow.  Now imagine that!  What
if...?  Here's an imaginative thought-experiment.  When I run that
thought-experiment in my mind, my first thought is that NLP would be
completely different today.  As a strange coincide, both Fritz and Abraham
Maslow died the same year, Perls in March and Maslow in June of 1970.  So it
could have happened.  There are, after all, numerous tapes and videos of
Maslow that have never been transcribed and published.

Now as a historical reference, Perls and Maslow didn't get along very well.
Perls was quite envious of Maslow and as Jeffrey Kripal wrote in his
biography of Esalen, Esalen: America and the Religion of No Religion,
(2007), Perls was there and wanted to "capture the flag" of the Human
Potential Movement.  He wanted to create it after his preferences, namely
Gestalt.  In fact, because he could not do that, he left Esalen in 1969 and
went to Canada to establish a Gestalt Kabutz there.  But he was too old and
too sick and so he died so thereafter.

Fritz was a star at Esalen, he was a celebrity and Murphy even had a house
built for him there.  "Despite his favored position, Fritz remained
insecure, jealous, and combative." (Anderson, p. 133).

"Fritz was Murphy's greatest problem.  He was hard to handle, and he would
not get in step with the human potential movement, even though everyone
recognized that gestalt therapy was a principle ingredient of it." (p. 133)

Walter Truett Anderson in his biography of Esalen, The Upstart Spring:
Esalen and the American Wakening (1983) describes how Perls conflicted with
everyone there.  He had conflicts with Michael Murphy and Dick Price.  He
conflicted with Will Schultz.  He even conflicted with Maslow.

"Nobody has ever described Fritz as 'nice.' ...  He would insult you by
describing you, to your face and in front of a roomful of people, with any
of the inelegant terms he had available to describe ways of being phony:
bitch, shithead, weeper, mindfucker, crazy-maker.  If you bored him, he
might fall asleep in his chair." (Anderson, 1983, p. 131)

Maslow visited Esalen twice every year.  In 1966 Maslow appeared at Esalen
to launch the first set of Leaders to be trained at Esalen.  On that visit,
Maslow describe the concept of "being language" as part of the higher
being-values within the self-actualization needs.  He appeared in the Maslow
Room (which is still there) and of course, he was always received as the
primary founder of the Movement.  On that occasion, Perls was there,
scoffing at the "fluff" and the "bullshit" of what Maslow was presenting.
Everyone else was captivated and people were asking questions.  

"'This is just like school,' Fritz called out. 'Here is the teacher, and
there is the pupil, giving the right answer.'  Maslow pretended to ignore
this.  Getting into arguments was not his thing, he preferred to have
friendly high-level discussions about humanistic psychology." (Anderson, p.
135).

While speaking on being language, Fritz who was nearly 70 years old, decided
on a new way to insult Maslow.

"Fritz was sliding down from his chair onto the floor.  In a few second
everyone else had noticed, the whole group watched in horrified silence as
Fritz slithered across the floor toward the philosopher, reached one
supplicating arm toward him, and said.  'Come down here with the rest of us;
get down with the common people.'  Maslow told Fritz he was being childish,
so Fritz proceeded to be childish in gestalt therapy style: do it all the
way ...  He crawled around on the floor and made whining sounds and hugged
Maslow's knees. ... 'This begins to look like sickness,' Maslow said."  (p.
136)

Perls had been looking to push Maslow's buttons and that finally did it.
Maslow was furious and threaten to leave.  This was what Perls loved-
psychodrama, shouting, yelling, stirring people up, and so on.

What would have been different about NLP?

Enough of that for now, let's get back to the thought experiment.  What woud
have been different about NLP?  Lots of things!  NLP would have started from
the source person of the Human Potential Movement instead of from the two
people who were second-generation leaders- Perls and Satir.  Then instead of
the "dirty old" man, NLP would have modeled Maslow who was himself very much
a self-actualizing person- caring and compassionate, intelligent and
passionate, collaborative and visionary, etc.

"Maslow was as good a model of self-actualization ... he had reached the top
ranks of his discipline, but was still an unpretentious, available person.
...  The only thing anybody had against him was that sometimes he seemed too
nice, too warm and generous, suspiciously lacking in rough edged.  Gregory
Bateson, who didn't much care for Maslow, would sniff and say, 'He was
always so good." (Anderson, p. 67)

Actually Bandler, Grinder, and Pucelik never model the persons of Perls,
Satir, or even Erickson.  What they modeled, or at least what came down as
"NLP," was what they did with their language.  And that's why NLP is
essentially a Communication Model.  Wyatt Woodsmall noted this many years
ago- the founders of NLP did not model the persons, just their products.

In 1937 Maslow modeled Max Wertheimer who founded Gestalt Psychology and
Ruth Benedict who founded Cultural Anthropology as the first two
self-actualizing individuals. He then spent 40 years modeling hundreds more.
He focused on human excellence, peak experiences, meaningfulness,
being-cognition, being-values, character, etc.  He also wrote a book on
science, The Psychology of Science, about how to do science.  That was one
of the seminal books which began the movement to qualitative research.  He
presented ides about research questions, recommendations for how to do so,
etc.  NLP would have started with a respect for research and using newer
methodologies for science rather than iconoclastically challenge and mock
statistical models.

Yes, NLP would today be a very different discipline and field if Bandler had
modeled Maslow rather than Perls.  But, of course, he did not.  He did not
go to the source of the Human Potential Movement and somehow all of the
original co-developers did not know or if they did, did not give credit to
Maslow and Rogers and the movement seeking to make explicit the process of
self-actualization.  And that's why, standing on the shoulders of so many
insightful geniuses, we in Neuro-Semantics are correcting those historical
errors in service of explicating Self-Actualization Psychology.

For more: see articles on the History of NLP on www.neurosemantics.com 

L. Michael Hall, Ph.D.

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