[Neurons] 2010 Meta Reflections #9

Mustafa Mohsen mustafa at anlpacademy.com
Tue Mar 2 04:48:25 EST 2010


It's been a great meta-pleasure for me to see the sun of this technology
rise in Egypt. Since I first got into Michael's books, and discovered the
meta realm of Neurosemantics, I had that vision of getting this to my
country, but I thought it was too hard.



And once upon a night, I thought about writing Michael for feedback about
one of my invented trainings: Multidimensional Thinking, which is quite
relevant to General Semantics. And surprisingly, he replied in the very next
day, which I didn't really expect. Then I thought: "Why don't we check for
possibilities? I'm sure that he is pretty busy, but what do we have to
lose?" So that when it all started, April 2009. Later, my dear friend and
co-organizer Mohammad Abdul-Kawy informed me that there is an NSTT in Hong
Kong. This ignited my ambition! Until only a few hours before my flight to
HK, I wasn't really sure if I will be able to make it or not, due to some
personal conditions. But, thanks to God, I made it! I spent some wonderful
days with a really inspiring group, which Michael was its team leader.
Literally speaking I learned in that week more than I learned in several
years! And this even made me more anticipated to Egypt's APG.



Throughout our preparation, Michael has shown a true example of a leader,
even a father, for the field: passion, care, warmth, flexibility, diligence,
respect, just to name a few. It seems to me that His "Others" matrix is
loaded with so much wonderful meanings that I think we both share, and this
put us into such a wonderful rapport and alignment.



And as he expressed, this APG experience was quite unique. Even though this
is a totally new program in Egypt, and even though it introduced some
totally new concepts for the NLP'ers, the response was marvelous! People's
minds kept spiraling and spiraling, and even more spiraling! Some of the
responders said that they never thought there's even such a thing in the
world!



Michael had a true Egyptian experience! I think that most Egyptians have a
"Driving-style Metaprogram" of "Squeezer!" They (I mean we) have some really
advanced street crossing skills and a very special "timing" mechanisms :-)



Anyway, I would like to pay a truly big thanks to Michael and to everyone
who made this possible. It's like my dream is turning into reality, and the
vision is getting closer.



Thanks to all of you and looking forward to see you all in Egypt.



With all best wishes

Mustafa



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Subject: [Neurons] 2010 Meta Reflections #9



From: L. Michael Hall

Meta Reflections - 2010 - #9

March 1, 2010





APG IN EGYPT





This past week I have had a pretty unique experience as I delivered APG in
Cairo Egypt. Unique because it was my first training in an Arab country and
unique because of the sponsors of the training- three men of vision who see
the need for bringing some high-quality NLP to Egypt. Two of the men that I
spent time with in Egypt are now in the process of becoming Neuro-Semantic
Trainers and the third is planning to do the same. Mohammad Tarek of Lucid
Trainings and Mustafa El-Masy of Applied NLP Academy along with Mohammed
Addul-Kawy of Alexandria.



In January I met Mustafa and Mohammad (of Alexandria) in Hong Kong for the
first part of the Trainers Training and got acquainted first-hand with their
passion and commitment to Egypt, to NLP, and to Neuro-Semantics. What I
didn't know previously was the extent of the problems that NLP has suffered
in Egypt at the hands of some inadequately trained trainers whose primary
motive seems to be to use NLP for getting money and a sense of power over
others.



This is really sad and is all around the world. This result in a lot of
very low grade quality NLP so that already NLP does not have a good
reputation in Egypt. Mohammad Tarek was telling me that as a computer
programmer, when he taught at the University in Alexandria, he would teach
the communication model of NLP but never, but never call it NLP. If they
found out, they would have discredited his work; otherwise, they loved what
he taught! I wish this was the exception, but sadly it occurs in every
country I have visited.



Anyway, Mustafa was diligent and searched the field to find some high
quality NLP. Eventually he found Neuro-Semantics and introduced it to the
others. Then, delight of delight, he and Mohammad Tarek cooperated to put
this training together. I love that.



We had a good group of people for the first training, 70-plus, eight or more
trainers, many practitioners and a good group of new people interested
mainly in self-development. Yet what I experienced was a real mixture-there
was a big group of people totally passionate about NLP and Meta-States.
They were so passionate in fact that I was literally inundated by questions
and requests from the time we started each day to the ending so that I never
got a break (which is fine, that's what I'm there for!). And they asked
questions upon questions- and most very personal and intimate questions
about applying the patterns to themselves, their families, and their work.
Now strangely, at the same time there was a small group of "practitioners"
who acted like they knew it all and never even bothered to do the processes!
Ah the ones who have never studied a model about self-reflexive
consciousness who already knows it all! I've met them before.



A TV camera group came to the training on the first day to get clips that
they later used when I did a live appearance on the channel. This was set
up by Ayman Mahmoud, a young man that I have corresponded with for years and
who has translated many of my articles in Arabic on some websites. There
were also other media interviews with radio and journalists for newspapers
that he set up. It's always good to experience my "expertise" rising by
leaps and bounds by the fantastic variable of distance- the farther from
home, the more of an expert I become! I ought to write an article about it,
who needs study and competence when all you need is geographical distance to
become an "expert," or so it seems.



I had never been to Cairo before and while I have seen some wild traffic-
Mexico City comes to mind, so does Moscow, Cairo takes the prize for being
the craziest and worst and most dangerous. I was okay with and used to the
fact that 3 lanes means 5 lanes of cars and 5 lanes means 7, that's the way
it is many places. But I had not seen hundreds and hundreds of people
stepping out into 5 and 6 lanes of traffic dodging cars as I saw in Cairo.
I even saw women carrying babies across such lanes of cars dodging, turning,
twisting, and aggressively fighting for every inch of space! And not only
during the day when at least you could see human beings in the middle of the
freeway, but at night!! Mohammad did all the driving and kept reassure me,
"Don't worry!" he kept saying! So I did- worry that is.



And horns, I did not now that a person could drive a car with a horn. Or
that you could send multiple messages with your horn, "I see you," "Get out
of the way," "What the hell are you doing?" I was even more surprised to
observe thousands upon thousands of cars driven by various tunes, messages,
and melodies.



And Arab time - I thought the Mexicans, Spaniards, and Italians had the
award for being "in time" and thinking time was a totally optional concept
for being effective. No longer. I give the award to the Egyptians! "We
will start at 9 am., right?" I asked Mustafa. "Yes, yes, sure. Well, maybe
9:10 to make sure everybody arrives." At 9:30 I asked again, "Yes, just ten
minutes." At 10 am I asked, "Yes, just ten minutes." I think that I have
learned that "ten minutes" to an Egyptian actually means 40 minutes or even
2 hours!



I had several interviews while there. And everywhere I find that reporters
are a strange breed. I have been interviewed so often now that I can now
tell precisely the very language that reporters will use, especially if they
have not done their homework, but are just trying to get another quick
"human interest" story. They always ask a very broad question and then was
quantitative evidence.

"So you in Neuro-Semantics work to help people succeed in weight management,
emotional intelligence, leadership, relationships, the creation of wealth,
self-actualization of companies, and everything else that you do in
Neuro-Semantics, can you give our listeners one technique that can do all of
that, keeping it really simple, in a minute or two? What is your best
testimonies for that?"



Don't you love it?! Try to answer that one! I got that this past week.
To narrow things a bit (!) I asked for a specific example that she would be
interested in. "What results do you want?" She said weight management, "I
want to have lots of energy and be fit and thin. So what one technique will
help me?" Of course, she was going too fast so I slowed her down and asked
if I could have a "transformational conversation" with her. She wondered
what that was. I said "a conversation that will be life-changing. Now it
will be fierce, I will probe to get to the heart of things with what you
want to change, are you sure you're ready for this?" She nodded.



So I began a conversation that she agreed was uncomfortable,
thought-provoking, intense, personal, and very quickly at the heart of the
variables of change. I found her pattern within 90 seconds, feed it back to
her four times. She wanted to stop! It was too much. She wanted the
results (slim body, fitness, energy), she wasn't ready to pay the price "so
no to tempting foods, exercise regularly." And that's fine. That's great.
Now she knows and has few excuses.



Then there were two participants who are in the process of making a movie.
"We are making a movie that's an Egyptian version of 'The Secret,' and we
want to interview you." Well, thanks but no thanks. I don't care to add to
the illusion and cause of dis-illusion of that kind of shallow non-sense.
"Well, it's not like that." "What about all the pseudo-science in 'The
Secret?'" "No, no, we don't have that; and besides, you can say whatever you
want to say." So I did. It will be interesting what they keep in it.



Sightseeing? Did I see any sights? Well, not many. One day Mohammad Addul
and I enjoyed the traffic jam on the Sixth of October bridge for several
hours! That allowed me to see the city; and we tried to get to the
Pyramids, but they had been shut down for Diplomats from Italy. We did get
to see the laser light show, which was great.



Here's to the heart, the passion, and the commitment of the men who made
this possible, to their staff of people who are seeking to bring
high-quality NLP and Neuro-Semantics to Egypt! I found them to be people of
faith, of integrity, fun, and vision.



















L. Michael Hall, Ph.D.

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The International Meta-Coach System

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