[Neurons] 2008 Meta Reflection #37

[Carl Lloyd]

As is the norm for you, Michael, the nail has been hit squarely!  
 
Several concepts evoked for me:  (1) a "pure" form of anything never exists (even diamonds are flawed enough to shatter under pressure, yet touted as the hardest substance)..."pure" is socially and culturally defined by those who wish to hold onto the past as if it was the "only" truth...If we applied this same thinking to the sciences, no new discoveries would be made or ideas explored...if applied to Christianity, questions would be hushed and explorers would be silenced.  Once any group, regardless of how well-meaning they may be, crystalizes what they consider to be the absolute or final answer, the human search fossilizes.  "Pure" Freudians, Adlerians, Skinnerians, etc. do not exist beyond the actual Freud, Adler, and Skinner (each of these also grew and changed their "pure" theories over the course of their lifespans).  Thus, purity is fixed in time within the lifespan of these founders.  Many today advertize "the best" or "the original" simply as a means of maintaining an audience; ignoring the on-going growth process dialogs always provide.  Self-actualizing audiences of any kind will always go far beyond the original author...which means students of NLP and NS will create new worlds and even explore beneath older ones.
 
(2) As Kuhn and others so eloquently put it, some changes are built upon the past while others are built in contrast to the past (many NLP and NS applications here!).  Developing thought and exploration are rarely built sequentially, in linear fashion.  Chaos Theory is a great example of non-linear, non-sequential modeling. Thus, original ideas probably never exist because many have similar or identical thoughts within the same chronological time period.  It is more likely a matter of who can patent or copyright an idea first :-)
 
(3) Your texts and teachings on "time lining" clearly illustrate the open-endedness of "future casting"...whether applied to wealth, health, spiritual growth, relationship enhancement, etc.  How many clients, students, children, parents "end" their lives but future casting...but only in digital data bites over brief chronological time periods?  As you put it, growth never occurs with "moment in time" thinking.
 
(4) Idolizing "heros/heroines" of any movement is quite "human" but often disasterous.  Idols are fixed, limited in time and power, robbed of their real humanity (human weaknesses), and often placed upon pedestals which become but prisons for those being idolized.  One thing I love about the Judeo-Christian bible is the absolutely honest way of approaching the characters' lives: they were flawed heros/heroines who would never appear on our membership lists...in fact, we would disfellowship them.  I have had many great professors in my academic career.  The best ones are those who say "think beyond what I can teach you."  Too often we, as parents, trainers, modelers, etc. end up creating little idolaters who can worship us, become just like us, etc.  We need to share what we know but push others to go "where few have gone before"; which is far beyond us!
 
(5) All change (whether positive or negative, functional or dysfunctional) occurs over great periods of time.  Therapists can help clients change behaviors very rapidly in the office...but many clients fail to practice these changes at home...why?  Challenging and changing thoughts, beliefs, and values takes longer, yes, but these also represent, even in NLP's basic training model, different "levels" of human experience.  Changing emotions is quite another thing entirely!  While I do not often work with clients seeking material wealth, I do work with many needing (not necessarily seeking) character wealth.  Your principles apply within any "wealth" seeking model.
 
Keep up the challenging thoughts!
 
Carl Lloyd, Ph.D.
 

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Subject: [Neurons] 2008 Meta Reflection #37


From: L. Michael Hall

August 11, 2008

Meta Reflection #37

 

THE SECRET OF NEURO-SEMANTIC

MODELING FOR CREATING WEALTH

 


>From the last Meta Reflection #36 "Why Classic NLP Won't Make You Wealthy" here is the rest of the story. Now you may think that the rest of the story is more about ridding yourself of the thought-viruses that I mentioned, or about adding some new refinement to setting a well-formed outcome, financial or entrepreneurial know-how, or figuring out "how to get in." And while all those are legitimate ideas, my focus here is different.


My focus here is on modeling. In addition to the limiting attitudes and thought-viruses within the original "pure" NLP that some are promoting, there is a basic problem of limitation due to the original NLP idea of modeling. Let me put my thesis forth as bluntly as I can:

		Modeling something that occurs in a moment of time radically differs from something that occurs over time.

		Modeling "wealth creation" is not, never has been, and cannot be a "moment in time" experience. It is an experience that occurs "over time."

In the first instance of moment in time experiences, the NLP strategy model is superb. So, if you want to model how an excellent speller spells, how to get out of bed in the morning with ease and grace, how to delegate a responsibility, how to make a decision, and many other things that occur in a given moment of time, then use the classic NLP strategy model. Interview a person with that skill and mastery, watch eye accessing cues, listen for sensory predicates, map out the step-by-step representations as the person processes from the first triggering stimuli to the final activity. Do that and you will obtain a pretty good model for how to replicate that competency and get those results.

In the second instance, however, of experiences that occur over time, the NLP strategy model will not be very helpful. You can watch eye accessing cues all day; gather pages and pages of predicates, and map out the micro-activities of the expert and in the end all of that information will be pretty much useless. In fact, it will mostly be irrelevant.

Now the surprising thing is that most NLP people, and even trainers, do not seem to know this. They seem to think that they can model life style activities that occur over weeks, months, and even years in the same way they model a micro-activity like spelling or deciding. But they cannot; it does not work that way. And why not?

The reason is that life style activities involve lots and lots of micro-strategies embedded within layers of beliefs, belief-systems, matrices of meanings, and even higher level understandings and concepts. And because of this-to model complex life-style activities requires some Meta-State structures; it requires a shift to some of the Neuro-Semantic modeling tools. Yes, I know. That is an extremely bold statement, so let me see if I can justify it.

Consider health. If "health" was just a state, just a "moment in time" experience, and just a micro-activity, then we could find that state and the strategy for getting into that state. Then we could access "the state of health," anchor it, and then whenever we don't feel so well, or feel a cold coming on, or lack of energy, stress, etc., we could just fire the health state anchor, and presto! Health! And if we could do that, we would totally revolutionize the field of medicine!

But obviously, that's ridiculous. "Health" is not a moment in time experience or activity. Health doesn't occur in just a moment, and is not a "state" like confidence, relaxation, excitement, anger, love, etc. are states. It is a state as in a condition of one's overall mind-emotions-body in relationship to one's life-style activities-eating, exercising, drinking, sleeping, getting along with others, work, sense of purpose, and so on. There are so many variables and factors that go into the overall condition of being healthy, energetic, free of disease, accident, and illness.

So how would we go about modeling health? After we find some good exemplars of health and healthiness, we would begin to identify all of the multiple sub-strategies involved in attaining a state of health. In this instance, we would specify strategies for eating right, exercising regularly and properly, adopting attitudes and beliefs that support health, handling work, effort, relaxation, and sleep properly, and so on. [By the way, I'll be presenting the Neuro-Semantics of Health next year in Montreal Canada, May 2009.]

The same considerations applies to the state of wealth. Wealth also is not a moment in time activity. It is a life-style activity that occurs over time. And in terms of wealth, it is created not in a day, a week, a month, and very seldom in a year. Generally it takes a decade. That's what most of the leading thinkers and researchers say (not the 'get rich quick' gurus). So when we set out to model "wealth creation" we similarly need to identify many sub-strategies: 

		C The activities that are financially viable in our culture.

		C Our skill level and competency of the required activities.

		C Our beliefs about ourselves learning and developing those competencies.

		C The self-management and discipline of taking our performances to the higher levels of expertise and eventually mastery.

		C Our relationships with and through others in all of the business relationships (suppliers, customers, clients, employers, partners, colleagues, employees, etc.).

		C Our best states in these many different activities.

		C Our skills in handling money (earning, saving, budgeting, investing, etc.).

		C Our skills in marketing, selling, negotiating, seeing opportunities, seizing opportunities, etc.

		C Our skills in adapting to the market, branding, meeting the needs and wants of clients, etc.

		C Our skills in creating a business, the systems required so that the business operates when we are there and when we are not.

		C And so on.

Is that complex? Is it complicated? Yes. And given that it requires multiple strategies about multiple areas of concern at the same time and holding all of those together within a larger framework, it requires understanding and working with multiple meta-levels. And that's why classic NLP apart from the Meta-States model is inadequate for modeling a life-style, over-time activity like "wealth creation." This also explains how and why the Meta-States Model, the Matrix Model, Self-Actualization Quadrants, etc. does provide the required tools for effectively modeling how to create wealth over a decade and becoming financially independent. And because there's more to say about this, I'll do that in next Monday's Meta Reflection.

To your inside out wealth creation!

 

 

 

 
 
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