[Neurons] "Frames" In NLP and Neuro-Semantics

Ashton a.braithwaite at comcast.net
Fri Jul 25 14:26:04 EDT 2008


A new book On Being Certain points out that what we think we 'know' about
the world, is usually, more accurately expressed as our beliefs. Commonly,
people use the word 'know' when they are really referring to their beliefs.
So, I may say 'I know what I saw', however, memories, time, our senses, and
what we have individually filtered and encoded from the millions of bits of
information in that moment all contribute to how we will represent it in our
own minds.



The saying 'a picture is worth a thousand words' is true for all of us. But
looking at the same picture, none of us will have the same thousand words,
or 500, or maybe even 50. So, whether we are looking at a Michelangelo
painting or remembering what we saw ten years ago, everyone's accounts will
be different.



Further, our own accounts of what we saw and remembered will change over
time. In a study in the book mentioned, above, a group of people were asked
to write down on 9/11 where they were and what they were doing. A number of
years later they were asked to write down were they were and what they were
doing. Even with significant events like this, peoples accounts differ over
time. So, what we think we know is usually better expressed as our beliefs.



From: neurons-bounces at neurosemanticsegroups.com
[mailto:neurons-bounces at neurosemanticsegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dr. Hall
Sent: Friday, July 25, 2008 10:52 AM
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Subject: [Neurons] "Frames" In NLP and Neuro-Semantics



From: L. Michael Hall



"Frame" in Neuro-Semantics describes any and all "frames of mind" or "frames
of meaning" that we use to make sense of and understand something else. So
every belief is a frame, so is every value, every decision, every memory,
etc.



And since we can also use any model as a frame of mind/meaning --- this
means the Meta-Model, Meta-Programs, Meta-States, etc. can operate as
frames. So can NLP, General Semantics, Cognitive linguistics, the
Meta-Coaching System, any model.



In the book, Winning the Inner Game (alias Frame Games) the frame metaphor
starts with a reference ---a referent event. We then bring that referent
event inside and represent it as a movie or snapshot of something. When we
then use that as a frame of reference for understanding something else, it
becomes a frame of reference and then a frame of mind/ meaning, etc.



In NLP Gregory Bateson introduced the idea of frame and frames. Hope that
helps a bit in understanding the use of frames.

Winning the Inner Game (2007) is the new updated version of Frame
Games.













Hi Martin,



I'm very much a novice exploring this world of neuro-semantics and I
wouldn't want to give any definite answers to your questions. Like you, I'm
keen to receive feedback. Questions help me think about things from a
different point of view and that is what your questions did.

It seems to me that we can have belief frames - frames where the content
is beliefs. Perhaps we can also have frames where the content is something
else - perhaps the content could be speech patterns or colour combinations
or the way we see time. I don't want to diminish the power of beliefs,
just to explore a difference in meaning between frames and beliefs.

I guess anything could be called a framework, even NLP. Whether or not it
is a useful framework is another question.



Going away from your topic a little, I find the word 'belief' does itself
arouse all kinds of non-useful emotions. The most common one I encounter in
talking with people is its connection with religion and, in general, it's a
big turn-off.



(Martin - se vc seja brasileiro, o seu ingles e otimo!)



Regards,



Graham.











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