tag from the input XML, while I would like it to pick the <description> tag, any pointers ? thanks, Vaithee. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From wfz at wfzimmerman.com Fri Jul 9 10:16:44 2004 From: wfz at wfzimmerman.com (W. F. Zimmerman) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:16:44 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] Portal blocks stopped working In-Reply-To: <20040709070919.5170@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <200407091416.i69EGnW11929@internal.iowaoutdoors.org> All my portal blocks stopped working at once -- valid RSS feeds are creating "there was a problem reading this feed" message. I suspect a permissions problem. What needs to be writeable for portal blocks to work? A couple of other people at geeklog.net are also having this problem right now http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=3&showtopic=37341. From nacohen at mac.com Fri Jul 9 13:40:31 2004 From: nacohen at mac.com (Norman Cohen) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:40:31 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-users] Upgrade problem In-Reply-To: <20040709070919.5170@smtp.haun-online.de> References: <EB31D92B-D154-11D8-B3FA-000D93AD20F4@mac.com> <20040709070919.5170@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <1314FDCC-D1CF-11D8-B3FA-000D93AD20F4@mac.com> Thanks so much Dirk and Tony. I made the CVS changes. That didn't quite work as the 1.3.8 to 1.3.9 update in the sql directory had a reference to the staticpage table. I commented that out and then ran the update again, which worked great. Also, the staticpage plugin works and the staticpage table was created without problem. Greatly appreciated! Norm Norman Cohen nacohen at mac.com "People seem to enjoy things more when they know a lot of other people have been left out of the pleasure." Russell Baker On Jul 8, 2004, at 11:09 PM, Dirk Haun wrote: > Norman, > >> I've tried to update from geeklog 1.3.7sr2 to 1.3.9. While running the >> /path/to/geeklog/admin/install/install.php script, I keep getting an >> error that table staticpages doesn't exist. > > Yeah, that's a bug in the install script - it assumes that the static > pages plugin has been installed. > > This has actually been fixed in CVS but didn't make it into 1.3.9sr1 > ... > > <http://cvs.geeklog.net/diff.php/geeklog-1.3/public_html/admin/install/ > install.php?ws=0&r1=1.61&r2=1.62> > > describes the fix. As you can see, it's only missing an additional > check > for $spversion > 0 > > bye, Dirk > > > -- > http://www.haun-online.de/ > http://www.haun.info/ > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > From dirk at haun-online.de Fri Jul 9 13:58:39 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 19:58:39 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] Portal blocks stopped working In-Reply-To: <200407091416.i69EGnW11929@internal.iowaoutdoors.org> References: <200407091416.i69EGnW11929@internal.iowaoutdoors.org> Message-ID: <20040709185839.12198@smtp.haun-online.de> >All my portal blocks stopped working at once -- valid RSS feeds are creating >"there was a problem reading this feed" message. I suspect a permissions >problem. What needs to be writeable for portal blocks to work? Nothing. Portal blocks don't write to the file system. Are the feeds coming from the same server (so that the problem may be on their side)? Did you try to call up the feed URLs in a browser? If the feeds seem to work, ask your hosting service if they changed something in the server configuration. First candidate: "allow_url_fopen" must be on for the RSS feeds to work (in the PHP configuration, i.e. in php.ini). bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://www.haun.info/ From wfz at wfzimmerman.com Fri Jul 9 14:13:56 2004 From: wfz at wfzimmerman.com (W. F. Zimmerman) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 14:13:56 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] Portal blocks stopped working In-Reply-To: <20040709185839.12198@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <200407091814.i69IE1M13838@internal.iowaoutdoors.org> The PHP issue was the problem, and I'm back in action now. Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 1:59 PM To: geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] Portal blocks stopped working >All my portal blocks stopped working at once -- valid RSS feeds are creating >"there was a problem reading this feed" message. I suspect a permissions >problem. What needs to be writeable for portal blocks to work? Nothing. Portal blocks don't write to the file system. Are the feeds coming from the same server (so that the problem may be on their side)? Did you try to call up the feed URLs in a browser? If the feeds seem to work, ask your hosting service if they changed something in the server configuration. First candidate: "allow_url_fopen" must be on for the RSS feeds to work (in the PHP configuration, i.e. in php.ini). bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://www.haun.info/ _______________________________________________ geeklog-users mailing list geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users From jvm at linuxgames.com Fri Jul 9 22:33:55 2004 From: jvm at linuxgames.com (John Matthews) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 22:33:55 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] gdlib oddness Message-ID: <1089426835.8119.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have gdlib for image resizing turned on in config.php. I have verified with phpinfo that gd is installed (2.0.23, bundled) and has jpeg, gif, png abilities. Image resizing wasn't happening, so I turned on logging to error.log and this is what I see when trying to upload a PNG image called dotc-021.png. Note that the image size returned from _getImageDimensions is apparently NULL or something like that. Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: File size for dotc-021.png is 15465 bytes Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: File, dotc-021.png is of mime type image/png and IS an image file. Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: in _getImageDimensions I got a width of , and a height of Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: Max allowed width = 200, Image width = Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: Max allowed height = 160, Image height = Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: File, dotc-021.png has a width of and a height of Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: File, dotc-021.png is of mime type image/png and IS an image file. Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: in _getImageDimensions I got a width of , and a height of Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: Max allowed width = 200, Image width = Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: Max allowed height = 160, Image height = Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: File, dotc-021.png has a width of and a height of Is this a permissions problem? (I.e. not able to read the image and get its size?) Is this a gd problem? (Somehow misconfigured, either in Geeklog or elsewhere?) Or is it something else altogether? Thanks for any and all help you can provide. Regards, matt From dirk at haun-online.de Sat Jul 10 04:09:53 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:09:53 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] Re: [geeklog-devel] Bug Squashing for Hire In-Reply-To: <40EDC126.1040204@tonybibbs.com> References: <40EDC126.1040204@tonybibbs.com> Message-ID: <20040710090953.5398@smtp.haun-online.de> Tony wrote: >This has been done with other projects and mentioned a few times here >and there but is there any interest in allowing people to bid on bugs. Obviously, this should not mean that people would now have to pay for simple bug fixes. Instead, it seems useful (IMHO) for the following scenarios: 1) A bug has been acknowledged but deemed too complicated / too much work to fix now. 2) Someone needs a fix urgently (and not with the next release in x months time). For these cases, I can see this working (and, yes, details like payment etc. need to be worked out). It would be nice if our bug tracking software would support this somehow. FWIW, I've submitted this as a feature request for both GForge and Mantis. Mantis 0.19 (alpha 1 just came out) will support this now (haven't looked into it). The feature request for GForge is still open: <http://gforge.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=787&group_id=1&atid=119> bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://www.macosx-faq.de/ From sbeashwar at gmail.com Tue Jul 13 10:22:55 2004 From: sbeashwar at gmail.com (eashwar) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:52:55 +0530 Subject: [geeklog-users] Images on user posts Message-ID: <de9cbc1904071307224847c5c9@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, How do I allow users to attach photos with posts ? How do I configure geeklog for this, i am running 1.3.9. thanks, Vaithee -- ~ythee~ http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/www/vathswrn From tony at tonybibbs.com Tue Jul 13 10:38:39 2004 From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:38:39 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-users] Images on user posts In-Reply-To: <de9cbc1904071307224847c5c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <de9cbc1904071307224847c5c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <40F3F3EF.10707@tonybibbs.com> Adding images to articles is an admin-only feature right now. --Tony eashwar wrote: >Hi all, > How do I allow users to attach photos with posts ? How do I >configure geeklog for this, i am running 1.3.9. > >thanks, >Vaithee > > > From bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz Wed Jul 14 09:23:31 2004 From: bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz (bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:23:31 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help Message-ID: <000b01c469a5$d9ab50a0$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> Hi all, It just occurred to me to wonder how many people are on the mailing list, which of course may not be related to how many people or web sites use Geeklog. Is that information available, just curious? My main questions are different though. I was wondering how to do a few things as I just got started with Geeklog. It may be the best CMS out there but I'm still new to using it so it's hard to make that evaluation. I've gone through printing out documentation for various CMS that I've tried and installed that are available on our server. 1) Can I and how do I setup or change the dimensions of the photograph that one can upload with their profile? Well, I know I can because I uploaded one pic to the main site at http://www.geeklog.net when I registered there. My site didn't allow any photo larger then 96X96. 2) Can I allow visitors and myself to have photographs that do not get reduced to a thumbnail size? One site that I have in mind for this would be for a high school alumni site and it would be a good idea to let members see photos of other members. 3) Can I make certain stories available for anonymous visitors and others only for registered users? I know I can do the second part but if I had certain blogs that I wanted to share with visitors or other content and I just wanted to give someone a link is that possible? I had in mind a writer's CMS setup where people one can get published, this is on another proprietary system but the person can send the link to their publication to a friend or anyone. 4) I accepted one of the default news feeds that one gets with an install. It doesn't seem clear how to include the content of a newsfeed into the site. Even going to the geeklog.net site and clicking on RSS, RDF, XML Feeds shows a list of a few but it seems like you can include the content of an article without taking a person away from the site. Clicking on the .rss file does nothing. Clicking on the link takes one away from the page instead of having the news included in the site. Perhaps one can have the content of the story open into a block on the site? Maybe? or open a new window with a target="_blank" html tag. I suppose that would work if the link was done right. Thanks, Bruce ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Bruce Whealton bruce at TriangleWebHosting.biz http://TriangleWebHosting.biz Webmaster/Web Designer/Writer ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://pairlist8.pair.net/pipermail/geeklog-users/attachments/20040714/091bf9b8/attachment.html> From tony at tonybibbs.com Wed Jul 14 12:36:07 2004 From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:36:07 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <000b01c469a5$d9ab50a0$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> References: <000b01c469a5$d9ab50a0$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> Message-ID: <40F560F7.5000304@tonybibbs.com> bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz wrote: > 1) Can I and how do I setup or change the dimensions of the > photograph that one > can upload with their profile? Well, I know I can because I uploaded one > pic to the main site at http://www.geeklog.net when I registered > there. My > site didn't allow any photo larger then 96X96. This is set in config.php. You should really read everything in that file once. > 2) Can I allow visitors and myself to have photographs that do not > get reduced to > a thumbnail size? No, this is a space conversation issue. If you don't want to have a thumbnail, you can set the dimensions to be larger > 3) Can I make certain stories available for anonymous visitors and > others only for > registered users? Yes. The permissions system is Geeklog is fairly unique to open source CMS (though others are adding this sort of stuff) > I know I can do the second part but if I had certain blogs that I > wanted to > share with visitors or other content and I just wanted to give someone > a link is that possible? > I had in mind a writer's CMS setup where people one can get published, > this is on another proprietary system but the person can send the link > to their publication to a friend or anyone. Uh, most themes include the "email story to a friend concept". Some have even started to include a link to the actual story as well so it can be easily copied and pasted into an email. All this stuff is possible out-of-the-box. > 4) I accepted one of the default news feeds that one gets with an > install. It doesn't seem clear how to include the content of a > newsfeed into the site. Even going to the geeklog.net site and > clicking on RSS, RDF, XML Feeds shows a list of a few but it seems > like you can include the content of an article without taking a person > away from the site. First, read the manual: http://www.geeklog.net/docs. The RSS/RDF/XML page is just a resource to get people started with including syndicated content within their Geeklog system. If you are hoping to include the content outside of a block (i.e. as a true Geeklog story) that concept isn't supported. > Clicking on the .rss file does nothing. Clicking on the link takes > one away from the page instead of having the news included in the > site. Perhaps one can have the content of the story open into a block > on the site? Maybe? or open a new window with a target="_blank" > html tag. I suppose that would work if the link was done right. This isn't currently supported. Add this as a feature request on http://project.geeklog.net --Tony From dirk at haun-online.de Wed Jul 14 14:11:21 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:11:21 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <40F560F7.5000304@tonybibbs.com> References: <40F560F7.5000304@tonybibbs.com> Message-ID: <20040714191121.24687@smtp.haun-online.de> >> or open a new window with a target="_blank" >> html tag. > >This isn't currently supported. Add this as a feature request on >http://project.geeklog.net And expect it to be rejected ;-) <http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=3&showtopic=11074> bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://www.haun.info/ From bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz Wed Jul 14 18:25:20 2004 From: bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz (bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 18:25:20 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help References: <40F560F7.5000304@tonybibbs.com> <20040714191121.24687@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <002001c469f2$d3813940$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> I am not sure I understand this comment. Why would I expect it to be rejected? Secondly is there not a way that the site user can add custom html to their site. For example, wouldn't a custom block allow one to define what would be included in a user defined block. Secondly, I'm curious about the issue of being able to incorporate content into a site. I hear that the Geeklog system allows one to place blocks of their choosing anywhere in the site display. As I look at collaborating with other web sites that can be affiliated with my efforts I look for opportunities to work with a similar web site in a collaborate fashion. I'm curious what options that might include for including content into a site from elsewhere. One other example would be some of the portals that some use for a home page. One is able to select the news headlines for various sources, not necessarily limited to rss newsfeeds or any news feed as specifically defined. I'd rather replace my.yahoo.com for my friends and my home pages and to see how I might achieve this goal This might include top news photos, or just top photos for the day, pulling in a joke of the day or word of the day from elsewhere. Can things of this nature be done? If not, is it possible I wonder, if the other custom CMS could or would somehow be able to incorporate some of the content from my site. Thanks, Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dirk Haun" <dirk at haun-online.de> To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help > >> or open a new window with a target="_blank" > >> html tag. > > > >This isn't currently supported. Add this as a feature request on > >http://project.geeklog.net > > And expect it to be rejected ;-) > > <http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=3&showtopic=11074> > > bye, Dirk > > > -- > http://www.haun-online.de/ > http://www.haun.info/ > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > From tony at tonybibbs.com Wed Jul 14 19:03:00 2004 From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 18:03:00 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <002001c469f2$d3813940$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> References: <40F560F7.5000304@tonybibbs.com> <20040714191121.24687@smtp.haun-online.de> <002001c469f2$d3813940$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> Message-ID: <40F5BBA4.407@tonybibbs.com> Bruce, sounds like you simply need to spend more time with the system and in the forums. Much of what you are talking about has been done, others have not. The Docs do a fairly good job explaining all this. --Tony bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz wrote: >I am not sure I understand this comment. Why would I expect it to be >rejected? Secondly is there not a way that the site user can add custom >html to their site. For example, wouldn't a custom block allow one to >define what would be included in a user defined block. > >Secondly, I'm curious about the issue of being able to incorporate content >into a site. I hear that the Geeklog system allows one to place blocks of >their choosing anywhere in the site display. > >As I look at collaborating with other web sites that can be affiliated with >my efforts I look for opportunities to work with a similar web site in a >collaborate fashion. I'm curious what options that might include for >including content into a site from elsewhere. One other example would be >some of the portals that some use for a home page. One is able to select >the news headlines for various sources, not necessarily limited to rss >newsfeeds or any news feed as specifically defined. I'd rather replace >my.yahoo.com for my friends and my home pages and to see how I might achieve >this goal This might include top news photos, or just top photos for the >day, pulling in a joke of the day or word of the day from elsewhere. > >Can things of this nature be done? If not, is it possible I wonder, if the >other custom CMS could or would somehow be able to incorporate some of the >content from my site. >Thanks, >Bruce >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dirk Haun" <dirk at haun-online.de> >To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net> >Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 2:11 PM >Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help > > > > >>>>or open a new window with a target="_blank" >>>>html tag. >>>> >>>> >>>This isn't currently supported. Add this as a feature request on >>>http://project.geeklog.net >>> >>> >>And expect it to be rejected ;-) >> >><http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=3&showtopic=11074> >> >>bye, Dirk >> >> >>-- >>http://www.haun-online.de/ >>http://www.haun.info/ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>geeklog-users mailing list >>geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >geeklog-users mailing list >geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > From bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz Thu Jul 15 10:51:01 2004 From: bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz (bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:51:01 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help References: <000b01c469a5$d9ab50a0$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> <40F560F7.5000304@tonybibbs.com> Message-ID: <019101c46a7b$28e22f10$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> When you say look at the config.php file, does that mean I can download it and edit it and then upload it to my installation? The ability to include content into my site from elsewhere such as have a weblog or rss feed or anything included into a block, which would be like targeting it to a frame on the same page would be desirable. Perhaps I'll have to use a couple CMS that are linked together to get all the features needed. XOOPS let one include the content in a block and you could write a custom block that has your own html/php code in it. Unfortunately it is rather ugly for a CMS and doing what one wants is less than easy to get done even if it is supported. Their forum for help is setup poorly as one cannot even send emails to one's main email account. I need that feature to have someone get an email that says their post has been responded to and to go to the site to read it. The fact that I can have stories/blogs within Geeklog that are available even to someone that I don't have to get to register is a good feature. I'd like to have people register for my site but sometimes there is a need to have a direct link to the publication or story, etc. that does not say permission denied. I've been looking at collaborating with a site at: myTown.ca that is based on a proprietary CMS. The goal is to find ways to allow any CMS to collaborate with any other CMS/blog or any web site, that is to have a "community" that is encapsulated. Tikiwiki seems able to do that but it is less than intuitive. One benefit of that is that one can in addition to including content from elsewhere in the site, you can setup individual user views of the site, individually customized content. So, perhaps I can embed my Geeklog site into something that will be a portal if you will, that pulls in content from elsewhere and keeps you there... a replacement for my.yahoo.com for some friends of mine. Links that keep a visitor at one's site are definitely highly desirable and good coding. One doesn't want to instruct a web site where moving from any content to any other content or page is necessary by a back arrow on the browser window. I try to always code such that each page has a consistent look and feel and can take on to the home page from wherever. A link to outside content that takes you to another site and outside one's own site prohibits this. As soon as one leaves for another site one cannot specify the content on the other site. There are many ways to do this though, conceptually. Sites with SSI - server side includes - are one example. I suppose a SSI could include a link to one's Geeklog site and thus have it within a frame on the site. Thus one would not actually leave one's own site. Thanks, Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Bibbs" <tony at tonybibbs.com> To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help > > > bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz wrote: > > > 1) Can I and how do I setup or change the dimensions of the > > photograph that one > > can upload with their profile? Well, I know I can because I uploaded one > > pic to the main site at http://www.geeklog.net when I registered > > there. My > > site didn't allow any photo larger then 96X96. > > This is set in config.php. You should really read everything in that > file once. > > > 2) Can I allow visitors and myself to have photographs that do not > > get reduced to > > a thumbnail size? > > No, this is a space conversation issue. If you don't want to have a > thumbnail, you can set the dimensions to be larger > > > 3) Can I make certain stories available for anonymous visitors and > > others only for > > registered users? > > Yes. The permissions system is Geeklog is fairly unique to open source > CMS (though others are adding this sort of stuff) > > > I know I can do the second part but if I had certain blogs that I > > wanted to > > share with visitors or other content and I just wanted to give someone > > a link is that possible? > > I had in mind a writer's CMS setup where people one can get published, > > this is on another proprietary system but the person can send the link > > to their publication to a friend or anyone. > > Uh, most themes include the "email story to a friend concept". Some > have even started to include a link to the actual story as well so it > can be easily copied and pasted into an email. All this stuff is > possible out-of-the-box. > > > 4) I accepted one of the default news feeds that one gets with an > > install. It doesn't seem clear how to include the content of a > > newsfeed into the site. Even going to the geeklog.net site and > > clicking on RSS, RDF, XML Feeds shows a list of a few but it seems > > like you can include the content of an article without taking a person > > away from the site. > > First, read the manual: http://www.geeklog.net/docs. The RSS/RDF/XML > page is just a resource to get people started with including syndicated > content within their Geeklog system. If you are hoping to include the > content outside of a block (i.e. as a true Geeklog story) that concept > isn't supported. > > > Clicking on the .rss file does nothing. Clicking on the link takes > > one away from the page instead of having the news included in the > > site. Perhaps one can have the content of the story open into a block > > on the site? Maybe? or open a new window with a target="_blank" > > html tag. I suppose that would work if the link was done right. > > This isn't currently supported. Add this as a feature request on > http://project.geeklog.net > > --Tony > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > From tony at tonybibbs.com Thu Jul 15 11:34:32 2004 From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:34:32 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <019101c46a7b$28e22f10$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> References: <000b01c469a5$d9ab50a0$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> <40F560F7.5000304@tonybibbs.com> <019101c46a7b$28e22f10$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> Message-ID: <40F6A408.1020705@tonybibbs.com> Bruce, man, you are killing me. Here is most likley my last friendly response. Read below bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz wrote: >When you say look at the config.php file, does that mean I can download it >and edit it and then upload it to my installation? > > Config.php is the Geeklog configuration file. It is the primary place for tweaking the meriad of configuration options in Geeklog. When I say 'look' at it I mean, read the file. There are a lot of excellent comments in there that explain what each option is. You should read then *entire* file before asking further questions so as not to irritate anyone. >The ability to include content into my site from elsewhere such as have a >weblog or rss feed or anything included into a block, which would be like >targeting it to a frame on the same page would be desirable. > Already suppoted, please read the manual http://www.geeklog.net/docs and the in-progress wiki documentation at http://wiki.geeklog.net/wiki/index.php. >Perhaps I'll >have to use a couple CMS that are linked together to get all the features >needed. XOOPS let one include the content in a block and you could write a >custom block that has your own html/php code in it. > This is the notion of a PHP block in Geeklog. Again, it is supported. Again, it can be found in one of the documentation repositories above. >Unfortunately it is >rather ugly for a CMS and doing what one wants is less than easy to get done >even if it is supported. Their forum for help is setup poorly as one cannot >even send emails to one's main email account. I need that feature to have >someone get an email that says their post has been responded to and to go to >the site to read it. > > The Geeklog forum plugin already does this. If you can't read the manual for that or figure it out own your own please see the author, Blaine, at http://www.portalparts.com >The fact that I can have stories/blogs within Geeklog that are available >even to someone that I don't have to get to register is a good feature. I'd >like to have people register for my site but sometimes there is a need to >have a direct link to the publication or story, etc. that does not say >permission denied. > > Again, read config.php >I've been looking at collaborating with a site at: myTown.ca that is based >on a proprietary CMS. The goal is to find ways to allow any CMS to >collaborate with any other CMS/blog or any web site, that is to have a >"community" that is encapsulated. > >Tikiwiki seems able to do that but it is less than intuitive. One benefit >of that is that one can in addition to including content from elsewhere in >the site, you can setup individual user views of the site, individually >customized content. So, perhaps I can embed my Geeklog site into something >that will be a portal if you will, that pulls in content from elsewhere and >keeps you there... a replacement for my.yahoo.com for some friends of mine. > > Before you even begin thinking about customizing Geeklog you need to learn the basics. Until you have successfully figured out the above tasks you will not be ready to tackle an integration effort like this. Also, given your apparent dislike of reading reference material, even if you complete the above I doubt you have the patience to actually get this done. Sorry, I thought maybe I could have replied nicely one more time but I failed miserably. --Tony From Martin at alsoalsoalso.de Thu Jul 15 14:01:29 2004 From: Martin at alsoalsoalso.de (Tinus) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 20:01:29 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <40F6A408.1020705@tonybibbs.com> Message-ID: <20040715180144.PQNL5699.amsfep20-int.chello.nl@adolfje> Hey guys, I have a few questions. Hope someone can help me out. I got a new host, quicker and bigger. Good huh. But now I want to copy my geeklog to the new host. I tried to just plain copy it .. That didn't work. So I freshly installed a new geeklog on the new host. Works (more or less) Now I copied my stories from the old mysqldb. Also copied the users to the new db. But apparently not enough , cause my members get an error. 1064 couldn't get_userdata .. Anybody know what records I must copie to the new db ?? My other question is about the cookies... My geeklog is on http://www.van-roermund.nl/~martin How should I configure the cookies-bit in geeklog? Im planning to use a static forwarder.. does this affect the cookie? I thought not, you have to use the original http-link right? Many thanx in advance... Greetz, ________________________________ Martin Martin at alsoalsoalso.de From dirk at haun-online.de Thu Jul 15 17:39:46 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:39:46 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <20040715180144.PQNL5699.amsfep20-int.chello.nl@adolfje> References: <20040715180144.PQNL5699.amsfep20-int.chello.nl@adolfje> Message-ID: <20040715223946.4349@smtp.haun-online.de> Martin, >So I freshly installed a new geeklog on the new host. Good approach. >Now I copied my stories from the old mysqldb. Also copied the users to the >new db. Wrong approach. You should imoprt the _entire_ database on your new host. Also, try searching the forums on geeklog.net, as moving a site has been discussed before (and, I guess, it's time we add it to the FAQ ...). bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://mypod.de/ From dirk at haun-online.de Thu Jul 15 17:43:10 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:43:10 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <002001c469f2$d3813940$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> References: <002001c469f2$d3813940$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> Message-ID: <20040715224310.2251@smtp.haun-online.de> Bruce, >I am not sure I understand this comment. Why would I expect it to be >rejected? I was actually half-joking. Opening new windows is, IMO, a bad idea (see the forum thread I linked to in my previous reply for a detailed discussion). And if you really, really want that, then it should be easy for you to make that change in Geeklog's core code. bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://geeklog.info/ From dirk at haun-online.de Fri Jul 16 14:16:06 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 20:16:06 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <20040715223946.4349@smtp.haun-online.de> References: <20040715223946.4349@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <20040716191606.11478@smtp.haun-online.de> >Also, try searching the forums on geeklog.net, as moving a site has been >discussed before (and, I guess, it's time we add it to the FAQ ...). Here's that FAQ entry now. Hope it helps ... http://www.geeklog.net/faqman/index.php?op=view&t=37 bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://geeklog.info/ From Martin at alsoalsoalso.de Sat Jul 17 09:18:31 2004 From: Martin at alsoalsoalso.de (Tinus) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 15:18:31 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <20040716191606.11478@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <20040717131840.SMHZ10114.amsfep17-int.chello.nl@adolfje> Thanx .. with help of the people on the mailing-list AND the FAQ .. I finally made it .. Manually adding and deleting Sql lines .. Even learned more about Sql hehe Thanx all and have a look how it turned out on http://Triest.ma.cx (it's in Dutch, but youll get the idea... ) ________________________________ Martin -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun Sent: vrijdag 16 juli 2004 20:16 To: geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help >Also, try searching the forums on geeklog.net, as moving a site has been >discussed before (and, I guess, it's time we add it to the FAQ ...). Here's that FAQ entry now. Hope it helps ... http://www.geeklog.net/faqman/index.php?op=view&t=37 bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://geeklog.info/ _______________________________________________ geeklog-users mailing list geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users From bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz Sat Jul 17 10:40:08 2004 From: bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz (bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 10:40:08 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help References: <000b01c469a5$d9ab50a0$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> <40F560F7.5000304@tonybibbs.com> <019101c46a7b$28e22f10$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> <40F6A408.1020705@tonybibbs.com> Message-ID: <004001c46c0b$f54275b0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> Ok, now it's my turn to get irritated, Note here a comment that seems to contradict what was said: >> or open a new window with a target="_blank" >> html tag. > >This isn't currently supported. Add this as a feature request on >http://project.geeklog.net And expect it to be rejected ;-) <http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=3&showtopic=11074> Expect it to be rejected!!! I thought you were just saying that by reading the contents of the config.php file I'd learn just how to do this. Not that I'd come to learn that it can't be done. Secondly, going through my site I don't see a link to view/read my config.php file. If I'm to ftp to the site and download that config.php file just say so, with a path to where it is located. I know that one cannot see php code in a browser since it is executed on the server and thus only html is returned. So, why not say the config.php file that you want to read is located in this directory and you can download it and read it, study it whatever? Customers that wanted to use a system like this and that I thought could on their own often have never programmed in php or know what it is exactly. That is no problem though, I'll set it up so that they can do what they need. Please just clarify for me something very simple. Is there a link on my site that will take me to a view of the config.php file that I can view/read and then maybe even modify and update. If not, I will be glad to download the correct file using ftp. I just need to know where in my installation it resides. That's all I ask. Say, go here-> download, read, modify and then if I modify or change then upload it back. That will get me going and then I'll be able to read more in depth. It did appear that one could not add any content one chooses and target it to a specific block that one places anywhere one chooses on the screen. I'd be thrilled to learn that I'm mistaken and that I can pull in content from elsewhere, an image, a web page or content from a page and make it appear in say upper right block for example. Thank you for your understanding, support, work and patience, Bruce Whealton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Bibbs" <tony at tonybibbs.com> To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help > Bruce, man, you are killing me. Here is most likley my last friendly > response. Read below > > bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz wrote: > > >When you say look at the config.php file, does that mean I can download it > >and edit it and then upload it to my installation? > > > > > Config.php is the Geeklog configuration file. It is the primary place > for tweaking the meriad of configuration options in Geeklog. When I say > 'look' at it I mean, read the file. There are a lot of excellent > comments in there that explain what each option is. You should read > then *entire* file before asking further questions so as not to irritate > anyone. > > >The ability to include content into my site from elsewhere such as have a > >weblog or rss feed or anything included into a block, which would be like > >targeting it to a frame on the same page would be desirable. > > > Already suppoted, please read the manual http://www.geeklog.net/docs and > the in-progress wiki documentation at > http://wiki.geeklog.net/wiki/index.php. > > >Perhaps I'll > >have to use a couple CMS that are linked together to get all the features > >needed. XOOPS let one include the content in a block and you could write a > >custom block that has your own html/php code in it. > > > This is the notion of a PHP block in Geeklog. Again, it is supported. > Again, it can be found in one of the documentation repositories above. > > >Unfortunately it is > >rather ugly for a CMS and doing what one wants is less than easy to get done > >even if it is supported. Their forum for help is setup poorly as one cannot > >even send emails to one's main email account. I need that feature to have > >someone get an email that says their post has been responded to and to go to > >the site to read it. > > > > > The Geeklog forum plugin already does this. If you can't read the > manual for that or figure it out own your own please see the author, > Blaine, at http://www.portalparts.com > > >The fact that I can have stories/blogs within Geeklog that are available > >even to someone that I don't have to get to register is a good feature. I'd > >like to have people register for my site but sometimes there is a need to > >have a direct link to the publication or story, etc. that does not say > >permission denied. > > > > > Again, read config.php > > >I've been looking at collaborating with a site at: myTown.ca that is based > >on a proprietary CMS. The goal is to find ways to allow any CMS to > >collaborate with any other CMS/blog or any web site, that is to have a > >"community" that is encapsulated. > > > >Tikiwiki seems able to do that but it is less than intuitive. One benefit > >of that is that one can in addition to including content from elsewhere in > >the site, you can setup individual user views of the site, individually > >customized content. So, perhaps I can embed my Geeklog site into something > >that will be a portal if you will, that pulls in content from elsewhere and > >keeps you there... a replacement for my.yahoo.com for some friends of mine. > > > > > Before you even begin thinking about customizing Geeklog you need to > learn the basics. Until you have successfully figured out the above > tasks you will not be ready to tackle an integration effort like this. > Also, given your apparent dislike of reading reference material, even if > you complete the above I doubt you have the patience to actually get > this done. > > Sorry, I thought maybe I could have replied nicely one more time but I > failed miserably. > > --Tony > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > From dirk at haun-online.de Sat Jul 17 11:16:43 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 17:16:43 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <004001c46c0b$f54275b0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> References: <004001c46c0b$f54275b0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> Message-ID: <20040717161643.22403@smtp.haun-online.de> Bruce, >Ok, now it's my turn to get irritated, >Note here a comment that seems to contradict what was said: To (hopefully) clarify the issue with target="_blank": This is not supported in Geeklog (that's why Tony suggested submitting it as a feature request). However, that particular issue is one of my pet peeves and since I have - more or less - the final word what goes into Geeklog 1.3.x and what doesn't, chances are pretty low that such a feature request would be implemented. Especially as it's so easy to add yourself, as I've pointed out in another post. Sorry for the use of irony in my original post - it sometimes just doesn't work out over email ... >Secondly, going through my site I don't see a link to view/read my >config.php file. If I'm to ftp to the site and download that config.php >file just say so Well, you must have changed and uploaded that file originally in order to get your site running. You probably still have a copy around on your PC. As Tony said, config.php is Geeklog's main configuration file (for settings that won't change too often). It's also documented in Geeklog's documentation: <http://www.geeklog.net/docs/config.html> There are over 100 configuration options in config.php. So when you're looking for something, this is the place to start. Granted, Geeklog's current documentation isn't exactly stellar, but please read the little that we have before you start posting questions that probably have already been answered in the documentation ... Also check out the FAQ, <http://www.geeklog.net/faqman/> and the Documentation Wiki <http://wiki.geeklog.net/>. bye, Dirk -- http://www.geeklog.net/ http://geeklog.info/ From Martin at alsoalsoalso.de Sat Jul 17 11:47:54 2004 From: Martin at alsoalsoalso.de (Tinus) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 17:47:54 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <004001c46c0b$f54275b0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> Message-ID: <20040717154800.UKHC7764.amsfep16-int.chello.nl@adolfje> Hi Bruce, I dont know very much about GL or php programming. But I can help you with the software for editing your config.php file. I am using a program named HTML-kit. This is anhtml-editor that also loads your site via FTP so you can see all your files and edit and update them as you go. It is also for php editing and you can download a plugin for help files on php editing. http://www.chami.com/html-kit/ This is where you can read about the software and in "Downloads" download it ;) Hope I could help you out a little... Greetingz ________________________________ Martin -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz Sent: zaterdag 17 juli 2004 16:40 To: geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help Ok, now it's my turn to get irritated, Note here a comment that seems to contradict what was said: >> or open a new window with a target="_blank" >> html tag. > >This isn't currently supported. Add this as a feature request on >http://project.geeklog.net And expect it to be rejected ;-) <http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=3&showtopic=11074> Expect it to be rejected!!! I thought you were just saying that by reading the contents of the config.php file I'd learn just how to do this. Not that I'd come to learn that it can't be done. Secondly, going through my site I don't see a link to view/read my config.php file. If I'm to ftp to the site and download that config.php file just say so, with a path to where it is located. I know that one cannot see php code in a browser since it is executed on the server and thus only html is returned. So, why not say the config.php file that you want to read is located in this directory and you can download it and read it, study it whatever? Customers that wanted to use a system like this and that I thought could on their own often have never programmed in php or know what it is exactly. That is no problem though, I'll set it up so that they can do what they need. Please just clarify for me something very simple. Is there a link on my site that will take me to a view of the config.php file that I can view/read and then maybe even modify and update. If not, I will be glad to download the correct file using ftp. I just need to know where in my installation it resides. That's all I ask. Say, go here-> download, read, modify and then if I modify or change then upload it back. That will get me going and then I'll be able to read more in depth. It did appear that one could not add any content one chooses and target it to a specific block that one places anywhere one chooses on the screen. I'd be thrilled to learn that I'm mistaken and that I can pull in content from elsewhere, an image, a web page or content from a page and make it appear in say upper right block for example. Thank you for your understanding, support, work and patience, Bruce Whealton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Bibbs" <tony at tonybibbs.com> To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help > Bruce, man, you are killing me. Here is most likley my last friendly > response. Read below > > bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz wrote: > > >When you say look at the config.php file, does that mean I can download it > >and edit it and then upload it to my installation? > > > > > Config.php is the Geeklog configuration file. It is the primary place > for tweaking the meriad of configuration options in Geeklog. When I say > 'look' at it I mean, read the file. There are a lot of excellent > comments in there that explain what each option is. You should read > then *entire* file before asking further questions so as not to irritate > anyone. > > >The ability to include content into my site from elsewhere such as have a > >weblog or rss feed or anything included into a block, which would be like > >targeting it to a frame on the same page would be desirable. > > > Already suppoted, please read the manual http://www.geeklog.net/docs and > the in-progress wiki documentation at > http://wiki.geeklog.net/wiki/index.php. > > >Perhaps I'll > >have to use a couple CMS that are linked together to get all the features > >needed. XOOPS let one include the content in a block and you could write a > >custom block that has your own html/php code in it. > > > This is the notion of a PHP block in Geeklog. Again, it is supported. > Again, it can be found in one of the documentation repositories above. > > >Unfortunately it is > >rather ugly for a CMS and doing what one wants is less than easy to get done > >even if it is supported. Their forum for help is setup poorly as one cannot > >even send emails to one's main email account. I need that feature to have > >someone get an email that says their post has been responded to and to go to > >the site to read it. > > > > > The Geeklog forum plugin already does this. If you can't read the > manual for that or figure it out own your own please see the author, > Blaine, at http://www.portalparts.com > > >The fact that I can have stories/blogs within Geeklog that are available > >even to someone that I don't have to get to register is a good feature. I'd > >like to have people register for my site but sometimes there is a need to > >have a direct link to the publication or story, etc. that does not say > >permission denied. > > > > > Again, read config.php > > >I've been looking at collaborating with a site at: myTown.ca that is based > >on a proprietary CMS. The goal is to find ways to allow any CMS to > >collaborate with any other CMS/blog or any web site, that is to have a > >"community" that is encapsulated. > > > >Tikiwiki seems able to do that but it is less than intuitive. One benefit > >of that is that one can in addition to including content from elsewhere in > >the site, you can setup individual user views of the site, individually > >customized content. So, perhaps I can embed my Geeklog site into something > >that will be a portal if you will, that pulls in content from elsewhere and > >keeps you there... a replacement for my.yahoo.com for some friends of mine. > > > > > Before you even begin thinking about customizing Geeklog you need to > learn the basics. Until you have successfully figured out the above > tasks you will not be ready to tackle an integration effort like this. > Also, given your apparent dislike of reading reference material, even if > you complete the above I doubt you have the patience to actually get > this done. > > Sorry, I thought maybe I could have replied nicely one more time but I > failed miserably. > > --Tony > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > _______________________________________________ geeklog-users mailing list geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users From bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz Sun Jul 18 02:32:12 2004 From: bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz (bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 02:32:12 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help References: <004001c46c0b$f54275b0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> <20040717161643.22403@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <00d201c46c90$fb5e2cc0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> > To (hopefully) clarify the issue with target="_blank": This is not > supported in Geeklog (that's why Tony suggested submitting it as a > feature request). However, that particular issue is one of my pet peeves > and since I have - more or less - the final word what goes into Geeklog > 1.3.x and what doesn't, chances are pretty low that such a feature > request would be implemented. Especially as it's so easy to add yourself, > as I've pointed out in another post. If you don't like using target="_blank" what would you use? Using frames for specific targets is not always the best coding style as what gets collected by search engines which help people find your site is the frame document and not the content areas. A default use of target="_self" is a pet peeve of mine. I have a tabbed browser that I found works nice with links that open in a new window, which it doesn't catch as popups. It does catch true popups very well. Just going to some of the free graphics sites on the web will remind me of that fact. When I'm on the Geeklog pages and am given a link within a forum to check on this link and then that link, to see that this link happened to open a new site right were I was reading is very irritating. I was about to open the second link when I have to instead open a new window for the same page so that I can browse to the different links and keep my place in the text flow. 1) I don't want my visitors lost somewhere else or ever leaving the confines of my site 2) I don't want my visitors to ever have to rely on a back arrow on their browset to get back to where they were and the exact place where they were reading. 3) I always ensure that to get back where they were I have a link there 4) I cannot do that when I've just taken them away from my site 5) As a visitor I've just lost my place in the forum that I was reading. 6) If I'm told, a quick search came up with this and then a FAQ here is useful. Once I go to the first link I'm lost from that whole train of thought. I'm also not expecting to get back to where I was exactly in the forum. I may even be logged out of the forums and have to find my place back. 7) My way of dealing with that is to open new window with current page as the content. Not everyone can think of that solution and it is very undesireable and frustrating. 8) I certainly have no problem having one new window open for one external link and another for another external link. 9) If something goes wrong of the external link is less than desired I'm still in the same forum to continue discussions 10) Not only would I not take someone away from my site with an external link, I certainly wouldn't do that in a forum. I certainly want to stay in the same forum browsing more articles. 11) Having seen that I lost my place with a window opening up to replace where I am in a forum I will often stop the browser from trying to take me to that site. 12) All too often I've had to go back to a page to fix something only to be asked to try to refresh the page with less than perfect results. 13) I never want any link to write over any page I have open including the page where I'm reading. 14) A link to an external page should be external to all other pages and links in my browser for these reasons. It is much easier to go close a new window and keep on going then to worry about whether a link has written over some other page or content or worst of all the page where I currently am reading. So, if it is easy to add myself, I'll look at that config.php file. No, it's not on my hard drive, as it was installed from the server using Fantastico. The server let me specify the subdomain and other information and then click install. Hence my desire to find the config.php file. Bruce > > Sorry for the use of irony in my original post - it sometimes just > doesn't work out over email ... > > > >Secondly, going through my site I don't see a link to view/read my > >config.php file. If I'm to ftp to the site and download that config.php > >file just say so > > Well, you must have changed and uploaded that file originally in order to > get your site running. You probably still have a copy around on your PC. > > As Tony said, config.php is Geeklog's main configuration file (for > settings that won't change too often). It's also documented in Geeklog's > documentation: <http://www.geeklog.net/docs/config.html> > > There are over 100 configuration options in config.php. So when you're > looking for something, this is the place to start. > > Granted, Geeklog's current documentation isn't exactly stellar, but > please read the little that we have before you start posting questions > that probably have already been answered in the documentation ... > > Also check out the FAQ, <http://www.geeklog.net/faqman/> and the > Documentation Wiki <http://wiki.geeklog.net/>. > > bye, Dirk > > > -- > http://www.geeklog.net/ > http://geeklog.info/ > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > From bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz Sun Jul 18 02:35:03 2004 From: bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz (bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 02:35:03 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help References: <20040717154800.UKHC7764.amsfep16-int.chello.nl@adolfje> Message-ID: <00d601c46c91$5e3cb0f0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> Thanks. Btw, does this offer a testing environment as well? Meaning some editors will let one execute the code, actually they'd be more than editors to be exact. But some html IDEs do offer that feature to allow one to see the code execution during development. Thanks, Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tinus" <Martin at alsoalsoalso.de> To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 11:47 AM Subject: RE: [geeklog-users] New user help > Hi Bruce, > > I dont know very much about GL or php programming. But I can help you with > the software for editing your config.php file. > > I am using a program named HTML-kit. This is anhtml-editor that also loads > your site via FTP so you can see all your files and edit and update them as > you go. It is also for php editing and you can download a plugin for help > files on php editing. > > http://www.chami.com/html-kit/ > > This is where you can read about the software and in "Downloads" download it > ;) > > Hope I could help you out a little... > > Greetingz > > ________________________________ > > Martin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of > bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz > Sent: zaterdag 17 juli 2004 16:40 > To: geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help > > Ok, now it's my turn to get irritated, > Note here a comment that seems to contradict what was said: > >> or open a new window with a target="_blank" > >> html tag. > > > >This isn't currently supported. Add this as a feature request on > >http://project.geeklog.net > > And expect it to be rejected ;-) > > <http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=3&showtopic=11074> > Expect it to be rejected!!! I thought you were just saying that by reading > the contents of the config.php file I'd learn just how to do this. Not that > I'd come to learn that it can't be done. > > Secondly, going through my site I don't see a link to view/read my > config.php file. If I'm to ftp to the site and download that config.php > file just say so, with a path to where it is located. I know that one > cannot see php code in a browser since it is executed on the server and thus > only html is returned. So, why not say the config.php file that you want to > read is located in this directory and you can download it and read it, study > it whatever? > Customers that wanted to use a system like this and that I thought could on > their own often have never programmed in php or know what it is exactly. > That is no problem though, I'll set it up so that they can do what they > need. > Please just clarify for me something very simple. Is there a link on my > site that will take me to a view of the config.php file that I can view/read > and then maybe even modify and update. > If not, I will be glad to download the correct file using ftp. I just need > to know where in my installation it resides. That's all I ask. Say, go > here-> download, read, modify and then if I modify or change then upload it > back. That will get me going and then I'll be able to read more in depth. > It did appear that one could not add any content one chooses and > target it to a specific block that one places anywhere one chooses on the > screen. I'd be thrilled to learn that I'm mistaken and that I can pull in > content from elsewhere, an image, a web page or content from a page and make > it appear in say upper right block for example. > Thank you for your understanding, support, work and patience, > Bruce Whealton > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Bibbs" <tony at tonybibbs.com> > To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 11:34 AM > Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help > > > > Bruce, man, you are killing me. Here is most likley my last friendly > > response. Read below > > > > bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz wrote: > > > > >When you say look at the config.php file, does that mean I can download > it > > >and edit it and then upload it to my installation? > > > > > > > > Config.php is the Geeklog configuration file. It is the primary place > > for tweaking the meriad of configuration options in Geeklog. When I say > > 'look' at it I mean, read the file. There are a lot of excellent > > comments in there that explain what each option is. You should read > > then *entire* file before asking further questions so as not to irritate > > anyone. > > > > >The ability to include content into my site from elsewhere such as have a > > >weblog or rss feed or anything included into a block, which would be like > > >targeting it to a frame on the same page would be desirable. > > > > > Already suppoted, please read the manual http://www.geeklog.net/docs and > > the in-progress wiki documentation at > > http://wiki.geeklog.net/wiki/index.php. > > > > >Perhaps I'll > > >have to use a couple CMS that are linked together to get all the features > > >needed. XOOPS let one include the content in a block and you could write > a > > >custom block that has your own html/php code in it. > > > > > This is the notion of a PHP block in Geeklog. Again, it is supported. > > Again, it can be found in one of the documentation repositories above. > > > > >Unfortunately it is > > >rather ugly for a CMS and doing what one wants is less than easy to get > done > > >even if it is supported. Their forum for help is setup poorly as one > cannot > > >even send emails to one's main email account. I need that feature to > have > > >someone get an email that says their post has been responded to and to go > to > > >the site to read it. > > > > > > > > The Geeklog forum plugin already does this. If you can't read the > > manual for that or figure it out own your own please see the author, > > Blaine, at http://www.portalparts.com > > > > >The fact that I can have stories/blogs within Geeklog that are available > > >even to someone that I don't have to get to register is a good feature. > I'd > > >like to have people register for my site but sometimes there is a need to > > >have a direct link to the publication or story, etc. that does not say > > >permission denied. > > > > > > > > Again, read config.php > > > > >I've been looking at collaborating with a site at: myTown.ca that is > based > > >on a proprietary CMS. The goal is to find ways to allow any CMS to > > >collaborate with any other CMS/blog or any web site, that is to have a > > >"community" that is encapsulated. > > > > > >Tikiwiki seems able to do that but it is less than intuitive. One > benefit > > >of that is that one can in addition to including content from elsewhere > in > > >the site, you can setup individual user views of the site, individually > > >customized content. So, perhaps I can embed my Geeklog site into > something > > >that will be a portal if you will, that pulls in content from elsewhere > and > > >keeps you there... a replacement for my.yahoo.com for some friends of > mine. > > > > > > > > Before you even begin thinking about customizing Geeklog you need to > > learn the basics. Until you have successfully figured out the above > > tasks you will not be ready to tackle an integration effort like this. > > Also, given your apparent dislike of reading reference material, even if > > you complete the above I doubt you have the patience to actually get > > this done. > > > > Sorry, I thought maybe I could have replied nicely one more time but I > > failed miserably. > > > > --Tony > > _______________________________________________ > > geeklog-users mailing list > > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > From dirk at haun-online.de Sun Jul 18 04:35:24 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 10:35:24 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <00d201c46c90$fb5e2cc0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> References: <00d201c46c90$fb5e2cc0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> Message-ID: <20040718093524.486@smtp.haun-online.de> Bruce, >If you don't like using target="_blank" what would you use? If I feel the need for a new window, I can always open one. Any browser (at least those that actually use windows ...) offers the option to open a link in a new window. Not many offer the option to not open links in a new window (Mozilla does, fortunately, but it's hidden in a config file somewhere). It's all about choice and not forcing your way of handling things down your visitor's throats. >Using frames for specific targets is not always the best coding style I think we can agree that frames are even worse than target="_blank". >1) I don't want my visitors lost somewhere else or ever leaving the confines >of my site Force doesn't work on the WWW. Never has, never will. If the visitors want to leave your site, they'll leave. The only thing you can do is to annoy them such that they don't even want to come back ... >2) I don't want my visitors to ever have to rely on a back arrow on their >browset to get back to where they were and the exact place where they were >reading. The back button is one of the essential means of navigation on the web. Why break it? My favourite anecdote is when I had pretty much the same discussion with a friend who used target="_blank" all over his site. While we had that discussion, someone was actually browsing said friend's site on a PC next to us. And at some point, that person uttered his confusion about the back button not working any more. Guess what? A link had opened in a new window without him noticing it, hiding the original window. The only thing he did notice was that his back button didn't work, causing him some frustration. You don't want to frustrate the visitors of your site. [paraphrasing 3) - 14)] > I ... I ... I ... Don't forget that websites are mainly for your visitors, not for yourself. Give them the choice to browse it the way THEY want. >So, if it is easy to add myself, I'll look at that config.php file. It is not in config.php. Which links exactly are you talking about? I've already pointed out where you can change it for links from RSS feeds. For Geeklog's links section, change the template files (in layout/YourTheme/links), and for links in stories, you'll have to add the target attribute in the list of allowed HTML tags (that one is actually in config.php - see the documentation and the FAQ for details). >No, it's not on my hard drive, as it was installed from the server using >Fantastico. K, didn't think of hosts that have Geeklog pre-installed. It should be somewhere outside of your webroot, i.e. not in any directory that can be accessed from the web. It shouldn't be too hard to find. bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://www.haun.info/ From bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz Sun Jul 18 15:32:28 2004 From: bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz (bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 15:32:28 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help References: <00d201c46c90$fb5e2cc0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> <20040718093524.486@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <004001c46cfd$f7f9de90$12ac9418@TRIANGLEWEB> We need to do some clarifying here as I am way off on what you're saying. > Bruce, > > >If you don't like using target="_blank" what would you use? > > If I feel the need for a new window, I can always open one. Any browser > (at least those that actually use windows ...) offers the option to open > a link in a new window. Not many offer the option to not open links in a > new window (Mozilla does, fortunately, but it's hidden in a config file > somewhere). > > It's all about choice and not forcing your way of handling things down > your visitor's throats. I offer choice in that by clicking on a link they do *not* loose their place in what they were viewing!! I am not taking them away from where they were just reading. I always hope that when I click on a link will I loose my place! Now, if I knew that the designer was going to force me to open a new window I'd do so. I have several windows open, if suddenly I click on a link and I'm somewhere else away from where I'm reading, I'm lost. Many people have no idea that they should open another window just in case where they were reading will throw them somewhere. In my solution they can simply and easily close a window and they are *not* taken away from where they were. To me, to have a link in a forum or anywhere on a page for that matter open right there where I'm reading is like someone taking the book I'm reading out of my hands before I can even note the page I'm on and throwing something else in my face. I'd rather have what they want to show me somewhere else. Give me a chance to mark my place in the book and then look at what they want to show me. Not only that but out of concern for them I also make sure that every page that I want to show them has a link to get them back where they started. NO browser back arrows that scream about content not there and do I want to try to refresh the content. DHTML makes some admirable attempts at this with views that appear near an item and give further info. But alas DHTML is not standard in the way it is implemented in all browsers. So, far from forcing anything I am allowing the person to stay where they want to be. If I'm ready to entirely leave a web site then and only then will I do one of two things enter the address in the address bar or two open a new window with an option to open a blank window or my home page. No click, surprise your lost. I also can control the closing of any windows that are used. If I'm scrolling through a list of downloads and click to download, the new window opens but the old one is still there, right where I left off. When the dowload is finished, ** I get to choose*** to close that window. The alternative is to look back through all the open windows to figure out which one had the page that interested me. When new content has replaced the old I have to look at each window individually and look at their history to find the one that had the content I wanted to keep visible in the first place. > > > >Using frames for specific targets is not always the best coding style > > I think we can agree that frames are even worse than target="_blank". Absolutely, positively not! I don't think I could imagine something more beneficial than the proper use of frames. I was just being shown that on a site that is out of Canada that has interests in offering free inclusion of similar writers sites into the site. I can update my site and that site where it appears on their site will automatically reproduce the changes. It is nicely integrated into the content on the site. Talk about Wow!!! That is a community idea!! The potential is amazing. I can include so many different items and so much content into one area allowing it to be fresh and updated from elsewhere. News stories, publications, forums, and the list is endless. On one end the content is updated with fresh material and yet I the visitor can go to one place and see what is new, or revisit what was there. Entirely new sites can be available within the same framework. And the community that is including the page of mine, needs not be told to do anything when I publish new material. Everyone will see it and I don't even have to try to let everyone know who might be intested in knowing. Web Ferret is another example of how this is handled quite well. It searches a number of search engines, creates a result set that appears in two frames a small lower frame, that can be adjusted in size and the results frame where I see the page. I click through the results and see each one previewed above. I can handle a large result set quickly moving through options. Third a dictionary, encyclopedia, glossary. Do I want to click on the B's and have the whole Dictionary setup go away? NO. I can have each letter of a glossary in a left or bottom window and the results can be shown above. Frames are a must for a Community site that pulls in content from elsewhere, especially if you want to keep the content fresh and up to date. And guarantee that you can adopt and include content as it changes on the site being pulled in. > > > >1) I don't want my visitors lost somewhere else or ever leaving the confines > >of my site > > Force doesn't work on the WWW. Never has, never will. If the visitors > want to leave your site, they'll leave. The only thing you can do is to > annoy them such that they don't even want to come back ... I won't come back if you take me away. If you have a community site and I go away I'm not spending the effort to figure out where I started. It's obvious to me you don't have any interest in showing me more. If you have two links to show me and I click on the first link and you send me away, don't expect me back. I follow a trail, tunneling toward the information I want. If I am sent in one direction, I'm going to follow that trail. If you make it possible for me to still return to your site because you have other content to show me, I'll know it because your site will remain visible to me. However, if you show me the first link and I look there, and then it takes me somewhere else, which gets me interested in something else, and so on, after 30 minutes I've forgotten about your site and it's other links. Unless it's still open for me to see. I publish a poetry magazine. If I have a link on the second page, that is external, am I going to want the person to loose their location in the magazine because they clicked on a link? Of course not! I want the pages to look the same, like they are reading a magazine. If there is a neat link that doesn't mean I want the poetry magazine crumpled and gone, with a user saying, "where did it go? where is it?" I was just reading about this guys poetry and I clicked on a link to see some other work by him and now the magazine is gone." Yeah, I can make sure I don't include any external links until the person gets to the last page but that is controlling how a person reads. I just want to keep the look of the publication throughout. I can do that and keep the look of the magazine throughout. ... giving the reader a marker as it were. It's like that with a community site. I want my content in the community area. I want some content to come from here and some from there but it all comes together into a "community" area. Some might be displayed from a site across the world and appear in a block upper right or center right. I can read through there but I have the safe feeling of knowing that I'm in a certain area. I'm not lost. I might want to have the option of going through pages and information in one block that is nicely placed but that's what I expect from a community site. Collaborative content! It means others can go about shaping their pages and allow me to include it in a community and not have to worry about what they do with their site. I obviously have no control over whether they link back to some page on my site. Put it in a block on my site and I don't have to worry. I can now offer that to the visitor at the visitor's choosing. > > > >2) I don't want my visitors to ever have to rely on a back arrow on their > >browset to get back to where they were and the exact place where they were > >reading. > > The back button is one of the essential means of navigation on the web. > Why break it? It is broken. I can't count the times when I hit return and information that was live is gone. A community site is just that a (meaning one) site. The back arrow is for other sites. Take listing on ebay... you forget something right after hitting next. Does the back arrow work perfectly? No. you get this screaming dialogue box suggesting you might find what you put in there or it could be all gone. The content that shows up on a back button is not always predicatable. It may be that it's 2 buttons back or longer before you get to wherer you were. Or you are caught in a loop that the back button can't get you out of. A good web design has a home link, a consistent navigation throughout. I don't have to think, "ok, where am I and how do I get here or there?" If I fill out a form I don't want to go back to the form. That option will be there if i need it to be. I can make it easier on the user by giving them a choice of links. If each page has the same menu then every page has the same way to get to where I want. Even if I want to go back to the form, if I've included it on the menu, which I always will, then it's right there for the visitor. Just click on the same menu item they say on the first page they visited and the nth page. And if I open a new windows that new window will include that same menu. I've covered all bases. Since, I have all options on the site available to the visitor what am I forcing on them? They can type in a new address, they can go to any page they choose. Any page... it's all on the menu. > Oh, I'm just beginning....For every anecdote you have I'm sure I'll find about 10 others. I love to write. So, this will be fun. :-) Bruce > My favourite anecdote is when I had pretty much the same discussion with > a friend who used target="_blank" all over his site. While we had that > discussion, someone was actually browsing said friend's site on a PC next > to us. And at some point, that person uttered his confusion about the > back button not working any more. Guess what? A link had opened in a new > window without him noticing it, hiding the original window. The only > thing he did notice was that his back button didn't work, causing him > some frustration. > > You don't want to frustrate the visitors of your site. > > > [paraphrasing 3) - 14)] > > I ... I ... I ... > > Don't forget that websites are mainly for your visitors, not for > yourself. Give them the choice to browse it the way THEY want. > > > >So, if it is easy to add myself, I'll look at that config.php file. > > It is not in config.php. > > Which links exactly are you talking about? I've already pointed out where > you can change it for links from RSS feeds. For Geeklog's links section, > change the template files (in layout/YourTheme/links), and for links in > stories, you'll have to add the target attribute in the list of allowed > HTML tags (that one is actually in config.php - see the documentation and > the FAQ for details). > > > >No, it's not on my hard drive, as it was installed from the server using > >Fantastico. > > K, didn't think of hosts that have Geeklog pre-installed. It should be > somewhere outside of your webroot, i.e. not in any directory that can be > accessed from the web. It shouldn't be too hard to find. > > bye, Dirk > > > -- > http://www.haun-online.de/ > http://www.haun.info/ > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > From dirk at haun-online.de Sun Jul 18 16:11:34 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:11:34 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <004001c46cfd$f7f9de90$12ac9418@TRIANGLEWEB> References: <004001c46cfd$f7f9de90$12ac9418@TRIANGLEWEB> Message-ID: <20040718211134.21533@smtp.haun-online.de> Bruce, >I offer choice in that by clicking on a link they do *not* loose their place >in what they were viewing!! I'd like to chose to not have that "benefit". How can I do that if you've already decided what you think was best for me? >> I think we can agree that frames are even worse than target="_blank". >Absolutely, positively not! I don't think I could imagine something more >beneficial than the proper use of frames. Well, in that case, we have to agree that we have completely different views of the web (as if that wasn't obvious by now ...). >> The back button is one of the essential means of navigation on the web. >> Why break it? >It is broken. I can't count the times when I hit return and information >that was live is gone. Then those sites were broken, not the back button. >The back arrow is for other sites. The back button is supposed to take you one step back, as in "click - oops, wrong link - back". And that should work no matter where that link took you (to another site or to another page on the same site). >I love to write. Unfortunately, it was hard to read with that unusual line length you've been using. So I have to admit that I've only skimmed your post. >So, this will be fun. :-) Sorry to be a spoilsport, but the fun ends for me here. As I said, we seem to have pretty much opposite views on how websites should work and it doesn't look like we're going to change each other's point of view from this little discussion. I hope you have fun using Geeklog nonetheless. bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://www.macosx-faq.de/ From philip at vogon.net Sun Jul 18 19:13:04 2004 From: philip at vogon.net (Philip Peake) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:13:04 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem editing own stories Message-ID: <40FB0400.6080306@vogon.net> My problem: * Login as my own user (not admin). * My user (Philip) has the following rights assigned: - All Users - Story Admin - Block Admin - Link Admin - Topic Admin - Event Admin - Poll Admin - Logged-in Users - Static Page Admin * Create a new story. * Attempt to edit story. * Edit fails with logged message: Sun Jul 18 15:51:18 2004 (4 at 10.0.0.7) - User Philip tried to illegally edit story 2004071815481577. Looking at DB contents: Philip has uid=4 The story has uid=4 The story has owerid=4 The story has sid=2004071815481577 The story show permissions as: Owner Group Members Anonymous R E R E R R x x x - x x Admin can (or course) modify with no problem. This problem is reproducible. Any ideas what is wrong? From vfuria at gmail.com Sun Jul 18 19:21:58 2004 From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 19:21:58 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem editing own stories In-Reply-To: <40FB0400.6080306@vogon.net> References: <40FB0400.6080306@vogon.net> Message-ID: <8319e2d60407181621791f647c@mail.gmail.com> Check to make sure that the "Topic Admin" group has read and write permissions on the topic to which the article belongs. -Vinny On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:13:04 -0700, Philip Peake <philip at vogon.net> wrote: > My problem: > > * Login as my own user (not admin). > > * My user (Philip) has the following rights assigned: > - All Users > - Story Admin > - Block Admin > - Link Admin > - Topic Admin > - Event Admin > - Poll Admin > - Logged-in Users > - Static Page Admin > > * Create a new story. > > * Attempt to edit story. > > * Edit fails with logged message: > Sun Jul 18 15:51:18 2004 (4 at 10.0.0.7) - User Philip tried to > illegally edit story 2004071815481577. > > Looking at DB contents: > > Philip has uid=4 > The story has uid=4 > The story has owerid=4 > The story has sid=2004071815481577 > > The story show permissions as: > > Owner Group Members Anonymous > R E R E R R > x x x - x x > > Admin can (or course) modify with no problem. > This problem is reproducible. > > Any ideas what is wrong? > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > From philip at vogon.net Sun Jul 18 20:18:17 2004 From: philip at vogon.net (Philip Peake) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 17:18:17 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem editing own stories In-Reply-To: <8319e2d60407181621791f647c@mail.gmail.com> References: <40FB0400.6080306@vogon.net> <8319e2d60407181621791f647c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <40FB1349.9070108@vogon.net> Vincent Furia wrote: >Check to make sure that the "Topic Admin" group has read and write >permissions on the topic to which the article belongs. > > I assume you mean edit (E) permission? No, it doesn't - but why should that be needed? I am the owner, and owner has R/E permissions. >-Vinny > >On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:13:04 -0700, Philip Peake <philip at vogon.net> wrote: > > >>My problem: >> >> * Login as my own user (not admin). >> >> * My user (Philip) has the following rights assigned: >> - All Users >> - Story Admin >> - Block Admin >> - Link Admin >> - Topic Admin >> - Event Admin >> - Poll Admin >> - Logged-in Users >> - Static Page Admin >> >> * Create a new story. >> >> * Attempt to edit story. >> >> * Edit fails with logged message: >> Sun Jul 18 15:51:18 2004 (4 at 10.0.0.7) - User Philip tried to >>illegally edit story 2004071815481577. >> >>Looking at DB contents: >> >> Philip has uid=4 >> The story has uid=4 >> The story has owerid=4 >> The story has sid=2004071815481577 >> >>The story show permissions as: >> >> Owner Group Members Anonymous >> R E R E R R >> x x x - x x >> >>Admin can (or course) modify with no problem. >>This problem is reproducible. >> >>Any ideas what is wrong? >> >>_______________________________________________ >>geeklog-users mailing list >>geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >geeklog-users mailing list >geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://pairlist8.pair.net/pipermail/geeklog-users/attachments/20040718/e0bc8142/attachment.html> From philip at vogon.net Sun Jul 18 20:20:22 2004 From: philip at vogon.net (Philip Peake) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 17:20:22 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem editing own stories In-Reply-To: <8319e2d60407181621791f647c@mail.gmail.com> References: <40FB0400.6080306@vogon.net> <8319e2d60407181621791f647c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <40FB13C6.2090806@vogon.net> Vincent Furia wrote: >Check to make sure that the "Topic Admin" group has read and write >permissions on the topic to which the article belongs. > > That does in fact fix things - but as I said in my previous post, why is this needed when the owner (me) has R/E permissions? This seems like a potential security issue, doens't this give write permission to anyone via the group permissions? Philip >-Vinny > >On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:13:04 -0700, Philip Peake <philip at vogon.net> wrote: > > >>My problem: >> >> * Login as my own user (not admin). >> >> * My user (Philip) has the following rights assigned: >> - All Users >> - Story Admin >> - Block Admin >> - Link Admin >> - Topic Admin >> - Event Admin >> - Poll Admin >> - Logged-in Users >> - Static Page Admin >> >> * Create a new story. >> >> * Attempt to edit story. >> >> * Edit fails with logged message: >> Sun Jul 18 15:51:18 2004 (4 at 10.0.0.7) - User Philip tried to >>illegally edit story 2004071815481577. >> >>Looking at DB contents: >> >> Philip has uid=4 >> The story has uid=4 >> The story has owerid=4 >> The story has sid=2004071815481577 >> >>The story show permissions as: >> >> Owner Group Members Anonymous >> R E R E R R >> x x x - x x >> >>Admin can (or course) modify with no problem. >>This problem is reproducible. >> >>Any ideas what is wrong? >> >>_______________________________________________ >>geeklog-users mailing list >>geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >geeklog-users mailing list >geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://pairlist8.pair.net/pipermail/geeklog-users/attachments/20040718/c4459e09/attachment.html> From vfuria at gmail.com Sun Jul 18 20:34:50 2004 From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 20:34:50 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem editing own stories In-Reply-To: <40FB13C6.2090806@vogon.net> References: <40FB0400.6080306@vogon.net> <8319e2d60407181621791f647c@mail.gmail.com> <40FB13C6.2090806@vogon.net> Message-ID: <8319e2d60407181734bf789a0@mail.gmail.com> The thinking behind this is that you should not be able to edit an article (even if you originally wrote it and/or are the current owner) unless you have edit permissions for the topic as well. This allows a site Admin to restrict certain types of access to a given topic. Granted, this is not the simplest thing to understand and it perhaps should be rethought. However, since its been this way for several major releases now I don't think it will be changed unless there is an over riding reason to do so. This is not a security hole because you need read/edit for *both* the article you want to edit and the topic that it is in. Again, it just allows the Geeklog admin a much finer level of control. The best way to learn about Geeklog permissions (especially in these sorts of weird circumstances) is to try things out and see how things react. -Vinny ----- Original Message ----- From: Philip Peake <philip at vogon.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 17:20:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] Problem editing own stories To: geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net That does in fact fix things - but as I said in my previous post, why is this needed when the owner (me) has R/E permissions? This seems like a potential security issue, doens't this give write permission to anyone via the group permissions? Philip From philip at vogon.net Sun Jul 18 21:30:16 2004 From: philip at vogon.net (Philip Peake) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:30:16 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem editing own stories In-Reply-To: <8319e2d60407181734bf789a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <40FB0400.6080306@vogon.net> <8319e2d60407181621791f647c@mail.gmail.com> <40FB13C6.2090806@vogon.net> <8319e2d60407181734bf789a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <40FB2428.202@vogon.net> Vincent Furia wrote: >The best way to learn about Geeklog permissions (especially in these >sorts of weird circumstances) is to try things out and see how things >react. > > :-( If there had been a small section in the doc explaining this - just the way you did, my life might have been a little bit easier. Ok, I do follow the reasoning - I was thinking more along the lines of Unix filesystem permissions - write on the directory (topic) lets you create a file (story), write on an existing story allows you to edit it, even thought there is no permission to write on the directory (do don't try to delete/replace!). Its different, and gives a different sort of flexibility - which I am ok with. Thanks for the explanation. Philip From vfuria at gmail.com Sun Jul 18 21:34:17 2004 From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:34:17 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem editing own stories In-Reply-To: <40FB2428.202@vogon.net> References: <40FB0400.6080306@vogon.net> <8319e2d60407181621791f647c@mail.gmail.com> <40FB13C6.2090806@vogon.net> <8319e2d60407181734bf789a0@mail.gmail.com> <40FB2428.202@vogon.net> Message-ID: <8319e2d6040718183425f79485@mail.gmail.com> No problem. That is what we're here for. :) -Vinny On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:30:16 -0700, Philip Peake <philip at vogon.net> wrote: > Vincent Furia wrote: > > >The best way to learn about Geeklog permissions (especially in these > >sorts of weird circumstances) is to try things out and see how things > >react. > > > > > :-( > > If there had been a small section in the doc explaining this - just the > way you did, my life might have been a little bit easier. > > Ok, I do follow the reasoning - I was thinking more along the lines of > Unix filesystem permissions - write on the directory (topic) lets you > create a file (story), write on an existing story allows you to edit it, > even thought there is no permission to write on the directory (do don't > try to delete/replace!). > > Its different, and gives a different sort of flexibility - which I am ok > with. > > Thanks for the explanation. > > Philip > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > From vfuria at gmail.com Sun Jul 18 21:49:45 2004 From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:49:45 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem editing own stories In-Reply-To: <8319e2d6040718183425f79485@mail.gmail.com> References: <40FB0400.6080306@vogon.net> <8319e2d60407181621791f647c@mail.gmail.com> <40FB13C6.2090806@vogon.net> <8319e2d60407181734bf789a0@mail.gmail.com> <40FB2428.202@vogon.net> <8319e2d6040718183425f79485@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8319e2d6040718184980f015f@mail.gmail.com> On a whim I added this to the Geeklog Wiki Documenation project. See: http://wiki.geeklog.net/wiki/index.php/Geeklog_Permissions -Vinny On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:34:17 -0400, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote: > No problem. That is what we're here for. :) > > -Vinny > > > > On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:30:16 -0700, Philip Peake <philip at vogon.net> wrote: > > Vincent Furia wrote: > > > > >The best way to learn about Geeklog permissions (especially in these > > >sorts of weird circumstances) is to try things out and see how things > > >react. > > > > > > > > :-( > > > > If there had been a small section in the doc explaining this - just the > > way you did, my life might have been a little bit easier. > > > > Ok, I do follow the reasoning - I was thinking more along the lines of > > Unix filesystem permissions - write on the directory (topic) lets you > > create a file (story), write on an existing story allows you to edit it, > > even thought there is no permission to write on the directory (do don't > > try to delete/replace!). > > > > Its different, and gives a different sort of flexibility - which I am ok > > with. > > > > Thanks for the explanation. > > > > Philip > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > geeklog-users mailing list > > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > > From sbeashwar at gmail.com Mon Jul 19 01:53:52 2004 From: sbeashwar at gmail.com (eashwar) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:23:52 +0530 Subject: [geeklog-users] User Deletion side effect Message-ID: <de9cbc19040718225330292173@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, I recently had problems for a user, in the sence the right side block wouldn't appear for this user (no matter what browser is used). So, I deleted this user and added him back, this fixed his problem. But, all those posts/replies that he made earlier now show up as "anonymous" user, is there a way I can fix this ? thanks, Vaithee -- ~ythee~ http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/www/vathswrn From Martin at alsoalsoalso.de Mon Jul 19 05:21:00 2004 From: Martin at alsoalsoalso.de (Tinus) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:21:00 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <00d601c46c91$5e3cb0f0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> Message-ID: <20040719092104.RTW16171.amsfep16-int.chello.nl@adolfje> This editor has a preview function, where youcan see how your code works yes. Excellent if you are not sure if your code works properly.. Greetz ________________________________ Martin -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz Sent: zondag 18 juli 2004 8:35 To: geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help Thanks. Btw, does this offer a testing environment as well? Meaning some editors will let one execute the code, actually they'd be more than editors to be exact. But some html IDEs do offer that feature to allow one to see the code execution during development. Thanks, Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tinus" <Martin at alsoalsoalso.de> To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 11:47 AM Subject: RE: [geeklog-users] New user help > Hi Bruce, > > I dont know very much about GL or php programming. But I can help you with > the software for editing your config.php file. > > I am using a program named HTML-kit. This is anhtml-editor that also loads > your site via FTP so you can see all your files and edit and update them as > you go. It is also for php editing and you can download a plugin for help > files on php editing. > > http://www.chami.com/html-kit/ > > This is where you can read about the software and in "Downloads" download it > ;) > > Hope I could help you out a little... > > Greetingz > > ________________________________ > > Martin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of > bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz > Sent: zaterdag 17 juli 2004 16:40 > To: geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help > > Ok, now it's my turn to get irritated, > Note here a comment that seems to contradict what was said: > >> or open a new window with a target="_blank" > >> html tag. > > > >This isn't currently supported. Add this as a feature request on > >http://project.geeklog.net > > And expect it to be rejected ;-) > > <http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=3&showtopic=11074> > Expect it to be rejected!!! I thought you were just saying that by reading > the contents of the config.php file I'd learn just how to do this. Not that > I'd come to learn that it can't be done. > > Secondly, going through my site I don't see a link to view/read my > config.php file. If I'm to ftp to the site and download that config.php > file just say so, with a path to where it is located. I know that one > cannot see php code in a browser since it is executed on the server and thus > only html is returned. So, why not say the config.php file that you want to > read is located in this directory and you can download it and read it, study > it whatever? > Customers that wanted to use a system like this and that I thought could on > their own often have never programmed in php or know what it is exactly. > That is no problem though, I'll set it up so that they can do what they > need. > Please just clarify for me something very simple. Is there a link on my > site that will take me to a view of the config.php file that I can view/read > and then maybe even modify and update. > If not, I will be glad to download the correct file using ftp. I just need > to know where in my installation it resides. That's all I ask. Say, go > here-> download, read, modify and then if I modify or change then upload it > back. That will get me going and then I'll be able to read more in depth. > It did appear that one could not add any content one chooses and > target it to a specific block that one places anywhere one chooses on the > screen. I'd be thrilled to learn that I'm mistaken and that I can pull in > content from elsewhere, an image, a web page or content from a page and make > it appear in say upper right block for example. > Thank you for your understanding, support, work and patience, > Bruce Whealton > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Bibbs" <tony at tonybibbs.com> > To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 11:34 AM > Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help > > > > Bruce, man, you are killing me. Here is most likley my last friendly > > response. Read below > > > > bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz wrote: > > > > >When you say look at the config.php file, does that mean I can download > it > > >and edit it and then upload it to my installation? > > > > > > > > Config.php is the Geeklog configuration file. It is the primary place > > for tweaking the meriad of configuration options in Geeklog. When I say > > 'look' at it I mean, read the file. There are a lot of excellent > > comments in there that explain what each option is. You should read > > then *entire* file before asking further questions so as not to irritate > > anyone. > > > > >The ability to include content into my site from elsewhere such as have a > > >weblog or rss feed or anything included into a block, which would be like > > >targeting it to a frame on the same page would be desirable. > > > > > Already suppoted, please read the manual http://www.geeklog.net/docs and > > the in-progress wiki documentation at > > http://wiki.geeklog.net/wiki/index.php. > > > > >Perhaps I'll > > >have to use a couple CMS that are linked together to get all the features > > >needed. XOOPS let one include the content in a block and you could write > a > > >custom block that has your own html/php code in it. > > > > > This is the notion of a PHP block in Geeklog. Again, it is supported. > > Again, it can be found in one of the documentation repositories above. > > > > >Unfortunately it is > > >rather ugly for a CMS and doing what one wants is less than easy to get > done > > >even if it is supported. Their forum for help is setup poorly as one > cannot > > >even send emails to one's main email account. I need that feature to > have > > >someone get an email that says their post has been responded to and to go > to > > >the site to read it. > > > > > > > > The Geeklog forum plugin already does this. If you can't read the > > manual for that or figure it out own your own please see the author, > > Blaine, at http://www.portalparts.com > > > > >The fact that I can have stories/blogs within Geeklog that are available > > >even to someone that I don't have to get to register is a good feature. > I'd > > >like to have people register for my site but sometimes there is a need to > > >have a direct link to the publication or story, etc. that does not say > > >permission denied. > > > > > > > > Again, read config.php > > > > >I've been looking at collaborating with a site at: myTown.ca that is > based > > >on a proprietary CMS. The goal is to find ways to allow any CMS to > > >collaborate with any other CMS/blog or any web site, that is to have a > > >"community" that is encapsulated. > > > > > >Tikiwiki seems able to do that but it is less than intuitive. One > benefit > > >of that is that one can in addition to including content from elsewhere > in > > >the site, you can setup individual user views of the site, individually > > >customized content. So, perhaps I can embed my Geeklog site into > something > > >that will be a portal if you will, that pulls in content from elsewhere > and > > >keeps you there... a replacement for my.yahoo.com for some friends of > mine. > > > > > > > > Before you even begin thinking about customizing Geeklog you need to > > learn the basics. Until you have successfully figured out the above > > tasks you will not be ready to tackle an integration effort like this. > > Also, given your apparent dislike of reading reference material, even if > > you complete the above I doubt you have the patience to actually get > > this done. > > > > Sorry, I thought maybe I could have replied nicely one more time but I > > failed miserably. > > > > --Tony > > _______________________________________________ > > geeklog-users mailing list > > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > _______________________________________________ geeklog-users mailing list geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users From vfuria at gmail.com Mon Jul 19 09:26:43 2004 From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:26:43 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] User Deletion side effect In-Reply-To: <de9cbc19040718225330292173@mail.gmail.com> References: <de9cbc19040718225330292173@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8319e2d604071906267d79be57@mail.gmail.com> No, there is no way to restore those associations. The entire point of deleting a user is to remove all references of them from the site. Once done this operation can not be undone as the database tables have been updated. -Vinny On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:23:52 +0530, eashwar <sbeashwar at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi All, > I recently had problems for a user, in the sence the right > side block wouldn't appear for this user (no matter what browser is > used). So, I deleted this user and added him back, this fixed his > problem. But, all those posts/replies that he made earlier now show up > as "anonymous" user, is there a way I can fix this ? > > thanks, > Vaithee > -- > ~ythee~ > http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/www/vathswrn > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > From tony at tonybibbs.com Mon Jul 19 12:02:11 2004 From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:02:11 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-users] User Deletion side effect In-Reply-To: <8319e2d604071906267d79be57@mail.gmail.com> References: <de9cbc19040718225330292173@mail.gmail.com> <8319e2d604071906267d79be57@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <40FBF083.3020300@tonybibbs.com> You should have, instead, first created the new account and then updated all his stuff to use the new userid and then deleted the bad account. Vinny's right, once done, it can't be undone. --Tony Vincent Furia wrote: >No, there is no way to restore those associations. The entire point >of deleting a user is to remove all references of them from the site. >Once done this operation can not be undone as the database tables have >been updated. > >-Vinny > >On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:23:52 +0530, eashwar <sbeashwar at gmail.com> wrote: > > >>Hi All, >> I recently had problems for a user, in the sence the right >>side block wouldn't appear for this user (no matter what browser is >>used). So, I deleted this user and added him back, this fixed his >>problem. But, all those posts/replies that he made earlier now show up >>as "anonymous" user, is there a way I can fix this ? >> >>thanks, >>Vaithee >>-- >>~ythee~ >>http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/www/vathswrn >>_______________________________________________ >>geeklog-users mailing list >>geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >geeklog-users mailing list >geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > From info at momosite.com Mon Jul 19 11:50:46 2004 From: info at momosite.com (Jaime Ortega) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:50:46 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] User Deletion side effect In-Reply-To: <8319e2d604071906267d79be57@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <BD21BA76.A830%info@momosite.com> Well, if there are not too much entries from that user, I think it can be easily done by hand, with phpMyAdmin or similar. Jaime > No, there is no way to restore those associations. The entire point > of deleting a user is to remove all references of them from the site. > Once done this operation can not be undone as the database tables have > been updated. > > -Vinny > > On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:23:52 +0530, eashwar <sbeashwar at gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi All, >> I recently had problems for a user, in the sence the right >> side block wouldn't appear for this user (no matter what browser is >> used). So, I deleted this user and added him back, this fixed his >> problem. But, all those posts/replies that he made earlier now show up >> as "anonymous" user, is there a way I can fix this ? >> >> thanks, >> Vaithee >> -- >> ~ythee~ >> http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/www/vathswrn >> _______________________________________________ >> geeklog-users mailing list >> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users >> > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > From Martin at alsoalsoalso.de Tue Jul 20 00:28:27 2004 From: Martin at alsoalsoalso.de (Tinus) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 06:28:27 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] Strange things happening... Message-ID: <20040720042832.QYCF17169.amsfep15-int.chello.nl@adolfje> Hey all.. Another question from me. I keep on nagging untill you all are sick of me :-) I installed my geeklog on a new host .. Everything seemed to work .. BUT The phplinks don't count the hits I made during testing.. Also the visitor stats (from stats-plugin) show no hits on new host and I know I have had a lot.. Also my poll's keep closing after 1 day or so .. why is that? Maybe has something to do with other 2 problems mentioned above? Does anyone have an idea what this could be? Please help me! Thanx (again) _____ Martin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://pairlist8.pair.net/pipermail/geeklog-users/attachments/20040720/dcce70d6/attachment.html> From Martin at alsoalsoalso.de Tue Jul 20 00:52:05 2004 From: Martin at alsoalsoalso.de (Tinus) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 06:52:05 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] Help part 2 Message-ID: <20040720045214.RFKV29501.amsfep18-int.chello.nl@adolfje> Pff... Now I enabled my stats plugin again by copying the gl_st_ vars from the Sql db. Now I get Warning: gethostbyaddr(): Address is not a valid IPv4 or IPv6 address in /my/geeklog/public_html/safe/plugins/stats/functions.inc on line 304 Now what? I'm getting totally confused here..! _____ Martin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://pairlist8.pair.net/pipermail/geeklog-users/attachments/20040720/65aa689b/attachment.html> From sbeashwar at gmail.com Wed Jul 21 03:16:41 2004 From: sbeashwar at gmail.com (eashwar) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:46:41 +0530 Subject: [geeklog-users] Who is Online ! Message-ID: <de9cbc1904072100161258376b@mail.gmail.com> I am having a strange problem with the Who is Online block, for a some select users the "Who is Online" block always showed the use as "Guest User" when the user is logged in. What could be wrong? I cannot remove this user and add for there are lot of content attched to the user. Any Pointers? -- ~ythee~ http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/www/vathswrn From tony at tonybibbs.com Wed Jul 21 09:26:37 2004 From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:26:37 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-users] Who is Online ! In-Reply-To: <de9cbc1904072100161258376b@mail.gmail.com> References: <de9cbc1904072100161258376b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <40FE6F0D.2070006@tonybibbs.com> Could it be a browser cache issue? One thing you could do is make sure there is an entry for the user in the session table. If there is then I have to think it is cache related. If there isn't then let us know. --Tony eashwar wrote: >I am having a strange problem with the Who is Online block, for a some >select users the "Who is Online" block always showed the use as "Guest >User" when the user is logged in. What could be wrong? I cannot remove >this user and add for there are lot of content attched to the user. >Any Pointers? > > > From Martin at alsoalsoalso.de Wed Jul 21 11:13:04 2004 From: Martin at alsoalsoalso.de (Tinus) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:13:04 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] Who is Online ! In-Reply-To: <40FE6F0D.2070006@tonybibbs.com> Message-ID: <20040721151312.FTP1232.amsfep19-int.chello.nl@adolfje> Hey guys .. I am back. I saw in the forums that some people have had the same problem as I do .. The gethostadr(bla) is not a IP4 or IP6 type of error .. Can someone point me out where I should start searching.. What could cause this ? It's like Geeklog can't resolve MY ip and host.. What's wrong here.. I am using stats 2.0 on GL 1.3.9sr Please help .. I in need of assistance Thx ________________________________ Martin -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Tony Bibbs Sent: woensdag 21 juli 2004 15:27 To: geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] Who is Online ! Could it be a browser cache issue? One thing you could do is make sure there is an entry for the user in the session table. If there is then I have to think it is cache related. If there isn't then let us know. --Tony eashwar wrote: >I am having a strange problem with the Who is Online block, for a some >select users the "Who is Online" block always showed the use as "Guest >User" when the user is logged in. What could be wrong? I cannot remove >this user and add for there are lot of content attched to the user. >Any Pointers? > > > _______________________________________________ geeklog-users mailing list geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users From tomw at pigstye.net Wed Jul 21 12:26:48 2004 From: tomw at pigstye.net (Tom Willett) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:26:48 +0000 Subject: [geeklog-users] Who is Online ! In-Reply-To: <20040721151312.FTP1232.amsfep19-int.chello.nl@adolfje> References: <40FE6F0D.2070006@tonybibbs.com> <20040721151312.FTP1232.amsfep19-int.chello.nl@adolfje> Message-ID: <20040721162602.M73486@pigstye.net> Just put a @ in front of the gethostadr call and it will turn off error reporting thus: @gethostadr(bla) -- Tom Willett tomw at pigstye.net ---------- Original Message ----------- From: "Tinus" <Martin at alsoalsoalso.de> To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net> Sent: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:13:04 +0200 Subject: RE: [geeklog-users] Who is Online ! > Hey guys .. > I am back. > > I saw in the forums that some people have had the same problem as I do .. > The gethostadr(bla) is not a IP4 or IP6 type of error .. > > Can someone point me out where I should start searching.. What could cause > this ? > It's like Geeklog can't resolve MY ip and host.. > > What's wrong here.. I am using stats 2.0 on GL 1.3.9sr > > Please help .. > I in need of assistance > > Thx > > ________________________________ > > Martin > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Tony Bibbs > Sent: woensdag 21 juli 2004 15:27 > To: geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] Who is Online ! > > Could it be a browser cache issue? > > One thing you could do is make sure there is an entry for the user in > the session table. If there is then I have to think it is cache > related. If there isn't then let us know. > > --Tony > > eashwar wrote: > > >I am having a strange problem with the Who is Online block, for a some > >select users the "Who is Online" block always showed the use as "Guest > >User" when the user is logged in. What could be wrong? I cannot remove > >this user and add for there are lot of content attched to the user. > >Any Pointers? > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users ------- End of Original Message ------- From dirk at haun-online.de Wed Jul 21 15:48:04 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:48:04 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] Who is Online ! In-Reply-To: <de9cbc1904072100161258376b@mail.gmail.com> References: <de9cbc1904072100161258376b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040721204804.2759@smtp.haun-online.de> >I am having a strange problem with the Who is Online block, for a some >select users the "Who is Online" block always showed the use as "Guest >User" when the user is logged in. What could be wrong? Nothing's wrong - this is actually a feature. User Functions > Preferences > Privacy Options > Show Online Status bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://www.tinyweb.de/ From sbeashwar at gmail.com Thu Jul 22 01:47:50 2004 From: sbeashwar at gmail.com (eashwar) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 11:17:50 +0530 Subject: [geeklog-users] Who is Online ! In-Reply-To: <20040721204804.2759@smtp.haun-online.de> References: <de9cbc1904072100161258376b@mail.gmail.com> <20040721204804.2759@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <de9cbc190407212247b265c78@mail.gmail.com> u bet ! it was indeed, I did look into the that setting but read it as "shows up the who's online block" but it is actually "shows up in the who's online block" :-) On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:48:04 +0200, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote: > >I am having a strange problem with the Who is Online block, for a some > >select users the "Who is Online" block always showed the use as "Guest > >User" when the user is logged in. What could be wrong? > > Nothing's wrong - this is actually a feature. > > User Functions > Preferences > Privacy Options > Show Online Status > > bye, Dirk > > > -- > http://www.haun-online.de/ > http://www.tinyweb.de/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > -- ~ythee~ http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/www/vathswrn From barton at monsterfreecity.com Fri Jul 23 13:35:24 2004 From: barton at monsterfreecity.com (Barton Chew) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:35:24 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] Daily Digest errors Message-ID: <AE1B3832-DCCE-11D8-8701-000A95B113AC@monsterfreecity.com> hello, i ran the emailgeeklogstories script manually to test the script. it seemed to send the digest without a problem. but the following warnings were sent to the command line. and now, the admin user has stopped receiving notification as indicated in: $_CONF['notification'] = array ('story', 'link', 'event', 'user'); i am able to send email via geeklog, so mail is working. i'm running geeklog 1.3.9sr1 PHP Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /Library/WebServer/chew_geeklog-1.3.9sr1/emailgeeklogstories:3) in /Library/WebServer/chew_geeklog-1.3.9sr1/system/lib-sessions.php on line 186 PHP Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /Library/WebServer/chew_geeklog-1.3.9sr1/emailgeeklogstories:3) in /Library/WebServer/chew_geeklog-1.3.9sr1/system/lib-sessions.php on line 198 thanks, barton From dirk at haun-online.de Fri Jul 23 13:54:43 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:54:43 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] Daily Digest errors In-Reply-To: <AE1B3832-DCCE-11D8-8701-000A95B113AC@monsterfreecity.com> References: <AE1B3832-DCCE-11D8-8701-000A95B113AC@monsterfreecity.com> Message-ID: <20040723185443.22678@smtp.haun-online.de> Barton, >PHP Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent You have a whitespace problem. Please see the FAQ: http://www.geeklog.net/faqman/index.php?op=view&t=38 bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://www.tinyweb.de/ From barton at monsterfreecity.com Fri Jul 23 14:21:42 2004 From: barton at monsterfreecity.com (Barton Chew) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:21:42 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] Daily Digest errors In-Reply-To: <20040723185443.22678@smtp.haun-online.de> References: <AE1B3832-DCCE-11D8-8701-000A95B113AC@monsterfreecity.com> <20040723185443.22678@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <259222A6-DCD5-11D8-8701-000A95B113AC@monsterfreecity.com> sorry, i should have checked there first. thanks, barton On Jul 23, 2004, at 1:54 PM, Dirk Haun wrote: > Barton, > >> PHP Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent > > You have a whitespace problem. Please see the FAQ: > http://www.geeklog.net/faqman/index.php?op=view&t=38 > > bye, Dirk > > > -- > http://www.haun-online.de/ > http://www.tinyweb.de/ > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > From eslittles at ucdavis.edu Sat Jul 24 13:23:21 2004 From: eslittles at ucdavis.edu (Everett Littles) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 10:23:21 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-users] SQL error on index.php Message-ID: <295BF1FC-DD96-11D8-9244-000A956E3DD4@ucdavis.edu> I just finished installing Geelklog 1.3.9 on my machine. It is OS 10.3 with PHP 4.3.6 and MySQL 4.0.2 The whole process was flawless until I tried to access my main page. I got the following error: An SQL error has occured. Please see error.log for details. When I check my error.log it reads as follows: Sat Jul 24 10:18:58 2004 - 1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use$ CT DISTINCT count(*) AS dups, type, question, gl_stories.title, gl_stories.sid, qid, max(gl_comments.date) as lastdate FROM gl_comments LEFT JOIN gl_stories ON (($ tid IN ('General','GeekLog'))) LEFT JOIN gl_pollquestions ON ((qid = gl_comments.sid) A ND (gl_pollquestions.perm_anon >= 2)) WHERE (gl_comments.date >= (DATE_SUB(NOW(), INTERVAL 172800 SECOND))) AND ((((gl_stories.perm_anon IS NOT NULL))) OR (((gl_p$ I tried dumping my whole db and starting over and got the same results. Any clues? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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To actually resolve the problem, you'll have to upgrade MySQL. bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://www.macosx-faq.de/ From eslittles at ucdavis.edu Sat Jul 24 15:26:35 2004 From: eslittles at ucdavis.edu (Everett Littles) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 12:26:35 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-users] SQL error on index.php In-Reply-To: <20040724190430.9811@smtp.haun-online.de> References: <295BF1FC-DD96-11D8-9244-000A956E3DD4@ucdavis.edu> <20040724190430.9811@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <6053DAD6-DDA7-11D8-9244-000A956E3DD4@ucdavis.edu> Dirk, Thanks for the workaround. It worked great. I kept searching the forums and obviously missed this thread. Thanks again. On Jul 24, 2004, at 11:04 AM, Dirk Haun wrote: >> I just finished installing Geelklog 1.3.9 on my machine. >> It is OS 10.3 with PHP 4.3.6 and MySQL 4.0.2 > [...] >> Sat Jul 24 10:18:58 2004 - 1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax. >> Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the >> right syntax to use$ >> CT DISTINCT count(*) AS dups, type, question, gl_stories.title, >> gl_stories.sid, qid, max(gl_comments.date) as lastdate FROM >> gl_comments >> LEFT JOIN gl_stories ON (($ > > This looks like the same issue that has already been discussed in > several > forum threads, e.g. this one: > http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=1&showtopic=33026 > > The workaround is to set > > $_CONF['hidenewcomments'] = 1; > > in config.php. To actually resolve the problem, you'll have to upgrade > MySQL. > > bye, Dirk > > > -- > http://www.haun-online.de/ > http://www.macosx-faq.de/ > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users >

From sbeashwar at yahoo.com Fri Jul 2 06:45:44 2004 From: sbeashwar at yahoo.com (baskaran vaitheeswaran) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 03:45:44 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [geeklog-users] newuser problem Message-ID: <20040702104544.57545.qmail@web60209.mail.yahoo.com> My h/d crashed recently. I am trying to restore geeklog from my backups. I've managed to set it up and it is almost back to the old status. One problem is that the newuser function or non of the user edit functions work. If I click newuser it just shows me the user list. Any pointers ? Vaithee. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 50x more storage than other providers! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From dirk at haun-online.de Fri Jul 2 07:17:21 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 13:17:21 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] newuser problem In-Reply-To: <20040702104544.57545.qmail@web60209.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20040702104544.57545.qmail@web60209.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <20040702121721.6359@smtp.haun-online.de> Vaithee, >If I click newuser it just shows me >the user list. Any pointers ? Make sure you have register_globals=on bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://geeklog.info/ From sbeashwar at yahoo.com Mon Jul 5 01:25:13 2004 From: sbeashwar at yahoo.com (baskaran vaitheeswaran) Date: Sun, 4 Jul 2004 22:25:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [geeklog-users] newuser problem In-Reply-To: <20040702121721.6359@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <20040705052513.9251.qmail@web60206.mail.yahoo.com> Phew ! thanks a million; I was breaking my head over debugging user.php. thanks, Vaithee. --- Dirk Haun wrote: > Vaithee, > > >If I click newuser it just shows me > >the user list. Any pointers ? > > Make sure you have register_globals=on > > bye, Dirk > > > -- > http://www.haun-online.de/ > http://geeklog.info/ > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - 100MB free storage! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From sbeashwar at yahoo.com Tue Jul 6 01:05:39 2004 From: sbeashwar at yahoo.com (baskaran vaitheeswaran) Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 22:05:39 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [geeklog-users] Chatterblock Message-ID: <20040706050539.23829.qmail@web60209.mail.yahoo.com> I recently installed Chatterblock plugin, the installation went fine, but when a user logs in the block just shows "registered user feature", I am afraid I am not able to find the place where this can be configured. I've tried the admin menus and options. Any pointers ? basically I am in the process of evaluating online chat feature plugins ? please do let me know if you know of better ones. thanks, Vaithee __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail is new and improved - Check it out! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From tony at tonybibbs.com Thu Jul 8 17:48:22 2004 From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 16:48:22 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-users] Bug Squashing for Hire Message-ID: <40EDC126.1040204@tonybibbs.com> This has been done with other projects and mentioned a few times here and there but is there any interest in allowing people to bid on bugs. The idea is someone finds a bug/issue/feature they need addressed in Geeklog and they can go ahead and put a price they are willing to pay to get the bug fixed. I'm only asking about whether people are interested in this now, as implementation could have issues (when is payment sent, what if payment is never sent, what if payment is sent but issue never addressed, etc). Comments, questions or concerns? --Tony From nacohen at mac.com Thu Jul 8 23:06:06 2004 From: nacohen at mac.com (Norman Cohen) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:06:06 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-users] Upgrade problem In-Reply-To: <40EDC126.1040204@tonybibbs.com> References: <40EDC126.1040204@tonybibbs.com> Message-ID: Hi, I've tried to update from geeklog 1.3.7sr2 to 1.3.9. While running the /path/to/geeklog/admin/install/install.php script, I keep getting an error that table staticpages doesn't exist. I have chosen an upgrade install with 1.3.7 as the active database. I deleted the database and restored from by backup and still get the error. My database never had a staticpage table. Any ideas on what I can do to get this update done? Thanks in advance, Norman Cohen nacohen at mac.com "People seem to enjoy things more when they know a lot of other people have been left out of the pleasure." Russell Baker From tony at tonybibbs.com Thu Jul 8 23:28:30 2004 From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 22:28:30 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-users] Upgrade problem In-Reply-To: References: <40EDC126.1040204@tonybibbs.com> Message-ID: <40EE10DE.50007@tonybibbs.com> Sounds like you removed the static pages plugin from your 1.3.7 release. If that is the case, the upgrade script is probably trying to upgrade it not expecting it not to be there. This is probably a bug (I'd need to verify it) so report it. Ways around it would include reinstalling it or hacking the upgrade .sql file by commenting out any references to static pages. --Tony Norman Cohen wrote: > Hi, > > I've tried to update from geeklog 1.3.7sr2 to 1.3.9. While running the > /path/to/geeklog/admin/install/install.php script, I keep getting an > error that table staticpages doesn't exist. I have chosen an upgrade > install with 1.3.7 as the active database. I deleted the database and > restored from by backup and still get the error. My database never had > a staticpage table. Any ideas on what I can do to get this update done? > > Thanks in advance, > > Norman Cohen > nacohen at mac.com > > "People seem to enjoy things more when they know a lot of other people > have been left out of the pleasure." > Russell Baker > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users From nacohen at mac.com Fri Jul 9 00:24:52 2004 From: nacohen at mac.com (Norman Cohen) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 21:24:52 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-users] Upgrade problem In-Reply-To: <40EE10DE.50007@tonybibbs.com> References: <40EDC126.1040204@tonybibbs.com> <40EE10DE.50007@tonybibbs.com> Message-ID: Thanks for responding so quickly. I never was able to get staticpages installed when I upgraded from 1.3.3 (or thereabouts) to 1.3.7sr2. I didn't remove it; it was never part of the package for me. I've looked through the code for admin/install/install.php and am not sure what I need to comment out. There are a large number of references to staticpage in the file. Any further guidance would be appreciated. Also, if I comment this out will I not be able to install staticpages later? Thanks, Norm Norman Cohen nacohen at mac.com "People seem to enjoy things more when they know a lot of other people have been left out of the pleasure." Russell Baker On Jul 8, 2004, at 8:28 PM, Tony Bibbs wrote: > Sounds like you removed the static pages plugin from your 1.3.7 > release. If that is the case, the upgrade script is probably trying > to upgrade it not expecting it not to be there. This is probably a > bug (I'd need to verify it) so report it. Ways around it would > include reinstalling it or hacking the upgrade .sql file by commenting > out any references to static pages. > > --Tony > > Norman Cohen wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I've tried to update from geeklog 1.3.7sr2 to 1.3.9. While running >> the /path/to/geeklog/admin/install/install.php script, I keep getting >> an error that table staticpages doesn't exist. I have chosen an >> upgrade install with 1.3.7 as the active database. I deleted the >> database and restored from by backup and still get the error. My >> database never had a staticpage table. Any ideas on what I can do to >> get this update done? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Norman Cohen >> nacohen at mac.com >> >> "People seem to enjoy things more when they know a lot of other >> people have been left out of the pleasure." >> Russell Baker >> >> _______________________________________________ >> geeklog-users mailing list >> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > From tony at tonybibbs.com Fri Jul 9 00:42:22 2004 From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs) Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 23:42:22 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-users] Upgrade problem In-Reply-To: References: <40EDC126.1040204@tonybibbs.com> <40EE10DE.50007@tonybibbs.com> Message-ID: <40EE222E.2000900@tonybibbs.com> No, you should comment out the lines in the .sql. file, not install.php. The install script will go through the upgrade .sql files in the sql/ directory in order and apply them. You would need to comment any referring to static pages. I'd seriously consider trying to install staticpages and get it working at some point...what you and I are talking about here is only a temporary solution. --Tony Norman Cohen wrote: > Thanks for responding so quickly. I never was able to get staticpages > installed when I upgraded from 1.3.3 (or thereabouts) to 1.3.7sr2. I > didn't remove it; it was never part of the package for me. > > I've looked through the code for admin/install/install.php and am not > sure what I need to comment out. There are a large number of > references to staticpage in the file. Any further guidance would be > appreciated. Also, if I comment this out will I not be able to install > staticpages later? > > Thanks, > > Norm > Norman Cohen > nacohen at mac.com > > "People seem to enjoy things more when they know a lot of other people > have been left out of the pleasure." > Russell Baker > On Jul 8, 2004, at 8:28 PM, Tony Bibbs wrote: > >> Sounds like you removed the static pages plugin from your 1.3.7 >> release. If that is the case, the upgrade script is probably trying >> to upgrade it not expecting it not to be there. This is probably a >> bug (I'd need to verify it) so report it. Ways around it would >> include reinstalling it or hacking the upgrade .sql file by >> commenting out any references to static pages. >> >> --Tony >> >> Norman Cohen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I've tried to update from geeklog 1.3.7sr2 to 1.3.9. While running >>> the /path/to/geeklog/admin/install/install.php script, I keep >>> getting an error that table staticpages doesn't exist. I have chosen >>> an upgrade install with 1.3.7 as the active database. I deleted the >>> database and restored from by backup and still get the error. My >>> database never had a staticpage table. Any ideas on what I can do to >>> get this update done? >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> Norman Cohen >>> nacohen at mac.com >>> >>> "People seem to enjoy things more when they know a lot of other >>> people have been left out of the pleasure." >>> Russell Baker >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> geeklog-users mailing list >>> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >>> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> geeklog-users mailing list >> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users >> > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users From vfuria at gmail.com Thu Jul 8 23:26:56 2004 From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia) Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2004 23:26:56 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] Upgrade problem In-Reply-To: References: <40EDC126.1040204@tonybibbs.com> Message-ID: <8319e2d604070820267665a326@mail.gmail.com> I seem to remember this problem cropping up. Some of the old versions of the static page plugin (before it was incorpated into core geeklog distribution) used 'staticpages' instead of 'staticpage' which is the current default. You can fix this a couple ways. The first is to rename your staticpages table staticpage. The second is to edit system/lib-database.php and change this line: $_TABLES['staticpage'] = $_DB_table_prefix . 'staticpage'; to: $_TABLES['staticpage'] = $_DB_table_prefix . 'staticpages'; of course you'll have to do that every time you upgrade or reinstall Geeklog. -Vinny P.S. is the value of $_DB_table_prefix from config.php, which defaults to "gl_". On Thu, 8 Jul 2004 20:06:06 -0700, Norman Cohen wrote: > Hi, > > I've tried to update from geeklog 1.3.7sr2 to 1.3.9. While running the > /path/to/geeklog/admin/install/install.php script, I keep getting an > error that table staticpages doesn't exist. I have chosen an upgrade > install with 1.3.7 as the active database. I deleted the database and > restored from by backup and still get the error. My database never had > a staticpage table. Any ideas on what I can do to get this update done? > > Thanks in advance, > > Norman Cohen > nacohen at mac.com > > "People seem to enjoy things more when they know a lot of other people > have been left out of the pleasure." > Russell Baker > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > From dirk at haun-online.de Fri Jul 9 02:09:19 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 08:09:19 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] Upgrade problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20040709070919.5170@smtp.haun-online.de> Norman, >I've tried to update from geeklog 1.3.7sr2 to 1.3.9. While running the >/path/to/geeklog/admin/install/install.php script, I keep getting an >error that table staticpages doesn't exist. Yeah, that's a bug in the install script - it assumes that the static pages plugin has been installed. This has actually been fixed in CVS but didn't make it into 1.3.9sr1 ... describes the fix. As you can see, it's only missing an additional check for $spversion > 0 bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://www.haun.info/ From sbeashwar at yahoo.com Fri Jul 9 10:08:07 2004 From: sbeashwar at yahoo.com (baskaran vaitheeswaran) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 07:08:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [geeklog-users] RSS import Message-ID: <20040709140807.31861.qmail@web60206.mail.yahoo.com> Hi, I have configured a block for RSS import, I find that geeklog is picking only the tag from the input XML, while I would like it to pick the <description> tag, any pointers ? thanks, Vaithee. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Read only the mail you want - Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail From wfz at wfzimmerman.com Fri Jul 9 10:16:44 2004 From: wfz at wfzimmerman.com (W. F. Zimmerman) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:16:44 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] Portal blocks stopped working In-Reply-To: <20040709070919.5170@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <200407091416.i69EGnW11929@internal.iowaoutdoors.org> All my portal blocks stopped working at once -- valid RSS feeds are creating "there was a problem reading this feed" message. I suspect a permissions problem. What needs to be writeable for portal blocks to work? A couple of other people at geeklog.net are also having this problem right now http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=3&showtopic=37341. From nacohen at mac.com Fri Jul 9 13:40:31 2004 From: nacohen at mac.com (Norman Cohen) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:40:31 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-users] Upgrade problem In-Reply-To: <20040709070919.5170@smtp.haun-online.de> References: <EB31D92B-D154-11D8-B3FA-000D93AD20F4@mac.com> <20040709070919.5170@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <1314FDCC-D1CF-11D8-B3FA-000D93AD20F4@mac.com> Thanks so much Dirk and Tony. I made the CVS changes. That didn't quite work as the 1.3.8 to 1.3.9 update in the sql directory had a reference to the staticpage table. I commented that out and then ran the update again, which worked great. Also, the staticpage plugin works and the staticpage table was created without problem. Greatly appreciated! Norm Norman Cohen nacohen at mac.com "People seem to enjoy things more when they know a lot of other people have been left out of the pleasure." Russell Baker On Jul 8, 2004, at 11:09 PM, Dirk Haun wrote: > Norman, > >> I've tried to update from geeklog 1.3.7sr2 to 1.3.9. While running the >> /path/to/geeklog/admin/install/install.php script, I keep getting an >> error that table staticpages doesn't exist. > > Yeah, that's a bug in the install script - it assumes that the static > pages plugin has been installed. > > This has actually been fixed in CVS but didn't make it into 1.3.9sr1 > ... > > <http://cvs.geeklog.net/diff.php/geeklog-1.3/public_html/admin/install/ > install.php?ws=0&r1=1.61&r2=1.62> > > describes the fix. As you can see, it's only missing an additional > check > for $spversion > 0 > > bye, Dirk > > > -- > http://www.haun-online.de/ > http://www.haun.info/ > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > From dirk at haun-online.de Fri Jul 9 13:58:39 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 19:58:39 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] Portal blocks stopped working In-Reply-To: <200407091416.i69EGnW11929@internal.iowaoutdoors.org> References: <200407091416.i69EGnW11929@internal.iowaoutdoors.org> Message-ID: <20040709185839.12198@smtp.haun-online.de> >All my portal blocks stopped working at once -- valid RSS feeds are creating >"there was a problem reading this feed" message. I suspect a permissions >problem. What needs to be writeable for portal blocks to work? Nothing. Portal blocks don't write to the file system. Are the feeds coming from the same server (so that the problem may be on their side)? Did you try to call up the feed URLs in a browser? If the feeds seem to work, ask your hosting service if they changed something in the server configuration. First candidate: "allow_url_fopen" must be on for the RSS feeds to work (in the PHP configuration, i.e. in php.ini). bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://www.haun.info/ From wfz at wfzimmerman.com Fri Jul 9 14:13:56 2004 From: wfz at wfzimmerman.com (W. F. Zimmerman) Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2004 14:13:56 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] Portal blocks stopped working In-Reply-To: <20040709185839.12198@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <200407091814.i69IE1M13838@internal.iowaoutdoors.org> The PHP issue was the problem, and I'm back in action now. Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun Sent: Friday, July 09, 2004 1:59 PM To: geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] Portal blocks stopped working >All my portal blocks stopped working at once -- valid RSS feeds are creating >"there was a problem reading this feed" message. I suspect a permissions >problem. What needs to be writeable for portal blocks to work? Nothing. Portal blocks don't write to the file system. Are the feeds coming from the same server (so that the problem may be on their side)? Did you try to call up the feed URLs in a browser? If the feeds seem to work, ask your hosting service if they changed something in the server configuration. First candidate: "allow_url_fopen" must be on for the RSS feeds to work (in the PHP configuration, i.e. in php.ini). bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://www.haun.info/ _______________________________________________ geeklog-users mailing list geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users From jvm at linuxgames.com Fri Jul 9 22:33:55 2004 From: jvm at linuxgames.com (John Matthews) Date: Fri, 09 Jul 2004 22:33:55 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] gdlib oddness Message-ID: <1089426835.8119.41.camel@localhost.localdomain> I have gdlib for image resizing turned on in config.php. I have verified with phpinfo that gd is installed (2.0.23, bundled) and has jpeg, gif, png abilities. Image resizing wasn't happening, so I turned on logging to error.log and this is what I see when trying to upload a PNG image called dotc-021.png. Note that the image size returned from _getImageDimensions is apparently NULL or something like that. Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: File size for dotc-021.png is 15465 bytes Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: File, dotc-021.png is of mime type image/png and IS an image file. Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: in _getImageDimensions I got a width of , and a height of Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: Max allowed width = 200, Image width = Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: Max allowed height = 160, Image height = Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: File, dotc-021.png has a width of and a height of Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: File, dotc-021.png is of mime type image/png and IS an image file. Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: in _getImageDimensions I got a width of , and a height of Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: Max allowed width = 200, Image width = Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: Max allowed height = 160, Image height = Fri Jul 9 20:28:53 2004 - Debug: File, dotc-021.png has a width of and a height of Is this a permissions problem? (I.e. not able to read the image and get its size?) Is this a gd problem? (Somehow misconfigured, either in Geeklog or elsewhere?) Or is it something else altogether? Thanks for any and all help you can provide. Regards, matt From dirk at haun-online.de Sat Jul 10 04:09:53 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sat, 10 Jul 2004 10:09:53 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] Re: [geeklog-devel] Bug Squashing for Hire In-Reply-To: <40EDC126.1040204@tonybibbs.com> References: <40EDC126.1040204@tonybibbs.com> Message-ID: <20040710090953.5398@smtp.haun-online.de> Tony wrote: >This has been done with other projects and mentioned a few times here >and there but is there any interest in allowing people to bid on bugs. Obviously, this should not mean that people would now have to pay for simple bug fixes. Instead, it seems useful (IMHO) for the following scenarios: 1) A bug has been acknowledged but deemed too complicated / too much work to fix now. 2) Someone needs a fix urgently (and not with the next release in x months time). For these cases, I can see this working (and, yes, details like payment etc. need to be worked out). It would be nice if our bug tracking software would support this somehow. FWIW, I've submitted this as a feature request for both GForge and Mantis. Mantis 0.19 (alpha 1 just came out) will support this now (haven't looked into it). The feature request for GForge is still open: <http://gforge.org/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=787&group_id=1&atid=119> bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://www.macosx-faq.de/ From sbeashwar at gmail.com Tue Jul 13 10:22:55 2004 From: sbeashwar at gmail.com (eashwar) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 19:52:55 +0530 Subject: [geeklog-users] Images on user posts Message-ID: <de9cbc1904071307224847c5c9@mail.gmail.com> Hi all, How do I allow users to attach photos with posts ? How do I configure geeklog for this, i am running 1.3.9. thanks, Vaithee -- ~ythee~ http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/www/vathswrn From tony at tonybibbs.com Tue Jul 13 10:38:39 2004 From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs) Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 09:38:39 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-users] Images on user posts In-Reply-To: <de9cbc1904071307224847c5c9@mail.gmail.com> References: <de9cbc1904071307224847c5c9@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <40F3F3EF.10707@tonybibbs.com> Adding images to articles is an admin-only feature right now. --Tony eashwar wrote: >Hi all, > How do I allow users to attach photos with posts ? How do I >configure geeklog for this, i am running 1.3.9. > >thanks, >Vaithee > > > From bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz Wed Jul 14 09:23:31 2004 From: bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz (bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 09:23:31 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help Message-ID: <000b01c469a5$d9ab50a0$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> Hi all, It just occurred to me to wonder how many people are on the mailing list, which of course may not be related to how many people or web sites use Geeklog. Is that information available, just curious? My main questions are different though. I was wondering how to do a few things as I just got started with Geeklog. It may be the best CMS out there but I'm still new to using it so it's hard to make that evaluation. I've gone through printing out documentation for various CMS that I've tried and installed that are available on our server. 1) Can I and how do I setup or change the dimensions of the photograph that one can upload with their profile? Well, I know I can because I uploaded one pic to the main site at http://www.geeklog.net when I registered there. My site didn't allow any photo larger then 96X96. 2) Can I allow visitors and myself to have photographs that do not get reduced to a thumbnail size? One site that I have in mind for this would be for a high school alumni site and it would be a good idea to let members see photos of other members. 3) Can I make certain stories available for anonymous visitors and others only for registered users? I know I can do the second part but if I had certain blogs that I wanted to share with visitors or other content and I just wanted to give someone a link is that possible? I had in mind a writer's CMS setup where people one can get published, this is on another proprietary system but the person can send the link to their publication to a friend or anyone. 4) I accepted one of the default news feeds that one gets with an install. It doesn't seem clear how to include the content of a newsfeed into the site. Even going to the geeklog.net site and clicking on RSS, RDF, XML Feeds shows a list of a few but it seems like you can include the content of an article without taking a person away from the site. Clicking on the .rss file does nothing. Clicking on the link takes one away from the page instead of having the news included in the site. Perhaps one can have the content of the story open into a block on the site? Maybe? or open a new window with a target="_blank" html tag. I suppose that would work if the link was done right. Thanks, Bruce ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Bruce Whealton bruce at TriangleWebHosting.biz http://TriangleWebHosting.biz Webmaster/Web Designer/Writer ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://pairlist8.pair.net/pipermail/geeklog-users/attachments/20040714/091bf9b8/attachment.html> From tony at tonybibbs.com Wed Jul 14 12:36:07 2004 From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 11:36:07 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <000b01c469a5$d9ab50a0$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> References: <000b01c469a5$d9ab50a0$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> Message-ID: <40F560F7.5000304@tonybibbs.com> bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz wrote: > 1) Can I and how do I setup or change the dimensions of the > photograph that one > can upload with their profile? Well, I know I can because I uploaded one > pic to the main site at http://www.geeklog.net when I registered > there. My > site didn't allow any photo larger then 96X96. This is set in config.php. You should really read everything in that file once. > 2) Can I allow visitors and myself to have photographs that do not > get reduced to > a thumbnail size? No, this is a space conversation issue. If you don't want to have a thumbnail, you can set the dimensions to be larger > 3) Can I make certain stories available for anonymous visitors and > others only for > registered users? Yes. The permissions system is Geeklog is fairly unique to open source CMS (though others are adding this sort of stuff) > I know I can do the second part but if I had certain blogs that I > wanted to > share with visitors or other content and I just wanted to give someone > a link is that possible? > I had in mind a writer's CMS setup where people one can get published, > this is on another proprietary system but the person can send the link > to their publication to a friend or anyone. Uh, most themes include the "email story to a friend concept". Some have even started to include a link to the actual story as well so it can be easily copied and pasted into an email. All this stuff is possible out-of-the-box. > 4) I accepted one of the default news feeds that one gets with an > install. It doesn't seem clear how to include the content of a > newsfeed into the site. Even going to the geeklog.net site and > clicking on RSS, RDF, XML Feeds shows a list of a few but it seems > like you can include the content of an article without taking a person > away from the site. First, read the manual: http://www.geeklog.net/docs. The RSS/RDF/XML page is just a resource to get people started with including syndicated content within their Geeklog system. If you are hoping to include the content outside of a block (i.e. as a true Geeklog story) that concept isn't supported. > Clicking on the .rss file does nothing. Clicking on the link takes > one away from the page instead of having the news included in the > site. Perhaps one can have the content of the story open into a block > on the site? Maybe? or open a new window with a target="_blank" > html tag. I suppose that would work if the link was done right. This isn't currently supported. Add this as a feature request on http://project.geeklog.net --Tony From dirk at haun-online.de Wed Jul 14 14:11:21 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 20:11:21 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <40F560F7.5000304@tonybibbs.com> References: <40F560F7.5000304@tonybibbs.com> Message-ID: <20040714191121.24687@smtp.haun-online.de> >> or open a new window with a target="_blank" >> html tag. > >This isn't currently supported. Add this as a feature request on >http://project.geeklog.net And expect it to be rejected ;-) <http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=3&showtopic=11074> bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://www.haun.info/ From bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz Wed Jul 14 18:25:20 2004 From: bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz (bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 18:25:20 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help References: <40F560F7.5000304@tonybibbs.com> <20040714191121.24687@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <002001c469f2$d3813940$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> I am not sure I understand this comment. Why would I expect it to be rejected? Secondly is there not a way that the site user can add custom html to their site. For example, wouldn't a custom block allow one to define what would be included in a user defined block. Secondly, I'm curious about the issue of being able to incorporate content into a site. I hear that the Geeklog system allows one to place blocks of their choosing anywhere in the site display. As I look at collaborating with other web sites that can be affiliated with my efforts I look for opportunities to work with a similar web site in a collaborate fashion. I'm curious what options that might include for including content into a site from elsewhere. One other example would be some of the portals that some use for a home page. One is able to select the news headlines for various sources, not necessarily limited to rss newsfeeds or any news feed as specifically defined. I'd rather replace my.yahoo.com for my friends and my home pages and to see how I might achieve this goal This might include top news photos, or just top photos for the day, pulling in a joke of the day or word of the day from elsewhere. Can things of this nature be done? If not, is it possible I wonder, if the other custom CMS could or would somehow be able to incorporate some of the content from my site. Thanks, Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dirk Haun" <dirk at haun-online.de> To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help > >> or open a new window with a target="_blank" > >> html tag. > > > >This isn't currently supported. Add this as a feature request on > >http://project.geeklog.net > > And expect it to be rejected ;-) > > <http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=3&showtopic=11074> > > bye, Dirk > > > -- > http://www.haun-online.de/ > http://www.haun.info/ > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > From tony at tonybibbs.com Wed Jul 14 19:03:00 2004 From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs) Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 18:03:00 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <002001c469f2$d3813940$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> References: <40F560F7.5000304@tonybibbs.com> <20040714191121.24687@smtp.haun-online.de> <002001c469f2$d3813940$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> Message-ID: <40F5BBA4.407@tonybibbs.com> Bruce, sounds like you simply need to spend more time with the system and in the forums. Much of what you are talking about has been done, others have not. The Docs do a fairly good job explaining all this. --Tony bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz wrote: >I am not sure I understand this comment. Why would I expect it to be >rejected? Secondly is there not a way that the site user can add custom >html to their site. For example, wouldn't a custom block allow one to >define what would be included in a user defined block. > >Secondly, I'm curious about the issue of being able to incorporate content >into a site. I hear that the Geeklog system allows one to place blocks of >their choosing anywhere in the site display. > >As I look at collaborating with other web sites that can be affiliated with >my efforts I look for opportunities to work with a similar web site in a >collaborate fashion. I'm curious what options that might include for >including content into a site from elsewhere. One other example would be >some of the portals that some use for a home page. One is able to select >the news headlines for various sources, not necessarily limited to rss >newsfeeds or any news feed as specifically defined. I'd rather replace >my.yahoo.com for my friends and my home pages and to see how I might achieve >this goal This might include top news photos, or just top photos for the >day, pulling in a joke of the day or word of the day from elsewhere. > >Can things of this nature be done? If not, is it possible I wonder, if the >other custom CMS could or would somehow be able to incorporate some of the >content from my site. >Thanks, >Bruce >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dirk Haun" <dirk at haun-online.de> >To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net> >Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 2:11 PM >Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help > > > > >>>>or open a new window with a target="_blank" >>>>html tag. >>>> >>>> >>>This isn't currently supported. Add this as a feature request on >>>http://project.geeklog.net >>> >>> >>And expect it to be rejected ;-) >> >><http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=3&showtopic=11074> >> >>bye, Dirk >> >> >>-- >>http://www.haun-online.de/ >>http://www.haun.info/ >> >>_______________________________________________ >>geeklog-users mailing list >>geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users >> >> >> >> > >_______________________________________________ >geeklog-users mailing list >geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > From bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz Thu Jul 15 10:51:01 2004 From: bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz (bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:51:01 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help References: <000b01c469a5$d9ab50a0$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> <40F560F7.5000304@tonybibbs.com> Message-ID: <019101c46a7b$28e22f10$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> When you say look at the config.php file, does that mean I can download it and edit it and then upload it to my installation? The ability to include content into my site from elsewhere such as have a weblog or rss feed or anything included into a block, which would be like targeting it to a frame on the same page would be desirable. Perhaps I'll have to use a couple CMS that are linked together to get all the features needed. XOOPS let one include the content in a block and you could write a custom block that has your own html/php code in it. Unfortunately it is rather ugly for a CMS and doing what one wants is less than easy to get done even if it is supported. Their forum for help is setup poorly as one cannot even send emails to one's main email account. I need that feature to have someone get an email that says their post has been responded to and to go to the site to read it. The fact that I can have stories/blogs within Geeklog that are available even to someone that I don't have to get to register is a good feature. I'd like to have people register for my site but sometimes there is a need to have a direct link to the publication or story, etc. that does not say permission denied. I've been looking at collaborating with a site at: myTown.ca that is based on a proprietary CMS. The goal is to find ways to allow any CMS to collaborate with any other CMS/blog or any web site, that is to have a "community" that is encapsulated. Tikiwiki seems able to do that but it is less than intuitive. One benefit of that is that one can in addition to including content from elsewhere in the site, you can setup individual user views of the site, individually customized content. So, perhaps I can embed my Geeklog site into something that will be a portal if you will, that pulls in content from elsewhere and keeps you there... a replacement for my.yahoo.com for some friends of mine. Links that keep a visitor at one's site are definitely highly desirable and good coding. One doesn't want to instruct a web site where moving from any content to any other content or page is necessary by a back arrow on the browser window. I try to always code such that each page has a consistent look and feel and can take on to the home page from wherever. A link to outside content that takes you to another site and outside one's own site prohibits this. As soon as one leaves for another site one cannot specify the content on the other site. There are many ways to do this though, conceptually. Sites with SSI - server side includes - are one example. I suppose a SSI could include a link to one's Geeklog site and thus have it within a frame on the site. Thus one would not actually leave one's own site. Thanks, Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Bibbs" <tony at tonybibbs.com> To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 12:36 PM Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help > > > bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz wrote: > > > 1) Can I and how do I setup or change the dimensions of the > > photograph that one > > can upload with their profile? Well, I know I can because I uploaded one > > pic to the main site at http://www.geeklog.net when I registered > > there. My > > site didn't allow any photo larger then 96X96. > > This is set in config.php. You should really read everything in that > file once. > > > 2) Can I allow visitors and myself to have photographs that do not > > get reduced to > > a thumbnail size? > > No, this is a space conversation issue. If you don't want to have a > thumbnail, you can set the dimensions to be larger > > > 3) Can I make certain stories available for anonymous visitors and > > others only for > > registered users? > > Yes. The permissions system is Geeklog is fairly unique to open source > CMS (though others are adding this sort of stuff) > > > I know I can do the second part but if I had certain blogs that I > > wanted to > > share with visitors or other content and I just wanted to give someone > > a link is that possible? > > I had in mind a writer's CMS setup where people one can get published, > > this is on another proprietary system but the person can send the link > > to their publication to a friend or anyone. > > Uh, most themes include the "email story to a friend concept". Some > have even started to include a link to the actual story as well so it > can be easily copied and pasted into an email. All this stuff is > possible out-of-the-box. > > > 4) I accepted one of the default news feeds that one gets with an > > install. It doesn't seem clear how to include the content of a > > newsfeed into the site. Even going to the geeklog.net site and > > clicking on RSS, RDF, XML Feeds shows a list of a few but it seems > > like you can include the content of an article without taking a person > > away from the site. > > First, read the manual: http://www.geeklog.net/docs. The RSS/RDF/XML > page is just a resource to get people started with including syndicated > content within their Geeklog system. If you are hoping to include the > content outside of a block (i.e. as a true Geeklog story) that concept > isn't supported. > > > Clicking on the .rss file does nothing. Clicking on the link takes > > one away from the page instead of having the news included in the > > site. Perhaps one can have the content of the story open into a block > > on the site? Maybe? or open a new window with a target="_blank" > > html tag. I suppose that would work if the link was done right. > > This isn't currently supported. Add this as a feature request on > http://project.geeklog.net > > --Tony > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > From tony at tonybibbs.com Thu Jul 15 11:34:32 2004 From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:34:32 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <019101c46a7b$28e22f10$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> References: <000b01c469a5$d9ab50a0$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> <40F560F7.5000304@tonybibbs.com> <019101c46a7b$28e22f10$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> Message-ID: <40F6A408.1020705@tonybibbs.com> Bruce, man, you are killing me. Here is most likley my last friendly response. Read below bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz wrote: >When you say look at the config.php file, does that mean I can download it >and edit it and then upload it to my installation? > > Config.php is the Geeklog configuration file. It is the primary place for tweaking the meriad of configuration options in Geeklog. When I say 'look' at it I mean, read the file. There are a lot of excellent comments in there that explain what each option is. You should read then *entire* file before asking further questions so as not to irritate anyone. >The ability to include content into my site from elsewhere such as have a >weblog or rss feed or anything included into a block, which would be like >targeting it to a frame on the same page would be desirable. > Already suppoted, please read the manual http://www.geeklog.net/docs and the in-progress wiki documentation at http://wiki.geeklog.net/wiki/index.php. >Perhaps I'll >have to use a couple CMS that are linked together to get all the features >needed. XOOPS let one include the content in a block and you could write a >custom block that has your own html/php code in it. > This is the notion of a PHP block in Geeklog. Again, it is supported. Again, it can be found in one of the documentation repositories above. >Unfortunately it is >rather ugly for a CMS and doing what one wants is less than easy to get done >even if it is supported. Their forum for help is setup poorly as one cannot >even send emails to one's main email account. I need that feature to have >someone get an email that says their post has been responded to and to go to >the site to read it. > > The Geeklog forum plugin already does this. If you can't read the manual for that or figure it out own your own please see the author, Blaine, at http://www.portalparts.com >The fact that I can have stories/blogs within Geeklog that are available >even to someone that I don't have to get to register is a good feature. I'd >like to have people register for my site but sometimes there is a need to >have a direct link to the publication or story, etc. that does not say >permission denied. > > Again, read config.php >I've been looking at collaborating with a site at: myTown.ca that is based >on a proprietary CMS. The goal is to find ways to allow any CMS to >collaborate with any other CMS/blog or any web site, that is to have a >"community" that is encapsulated. > >Tikiwiki seems able to do that but it is less than intuitive. One benefit >of that is that one can in addition to including content from elsewhere in >the site, you can setup individual user views of the site, individually >customized content. So, perhaps I can embed my Geeklog site into something >that will be a portal if you will, that pulls in content from elsewhere and >keeps you there... a replacement for my.yahoo.com for some friends of mine. > > Before you even begin thinking about customizing Geeklog you need to learn the basics. Until you have successfully figured out the above tasks you will not be ready to tackle an integration effort like this. Also, given your apparent dislike of reading reference material, even if you complete the above I doubt you have the patience to actually get this done. Sorry, I thought maybe I could have replied nicely one more time but I failed miserably. --Tony From Martin at alsoalsoalso.de Thu Jul 15 14:01:29 2004 From: Martin at alsoalsoalso.de (Tinus) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 20:01:29 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <40F6A408.1020705@tonybibbs.com> Message-ID: <20040715180144.PQNL5699.amsfep20-int.chello.nl@adolfje> Hey guys, I have a few questions. Hope someone can help me out. I got a new host, quicker and bigger. Good huh. But now I want to copy my geeklog to the new host. I tried to just plain copy it .. That didn't work. So I freshly installed a new geeklog on the new host. Works (more or less) Now I copied my stories from the old mysqldb. Also copied the users to the new db. But apparently not enough , cause my members get an error. 1064 couldn't get_userdata .. Anybody know what records I must copie to the new db ?? My other question is about the cookies... My geeklog is on http://www.van-roermund.nl/~martin How should I configure the cookies-bit in geeklog? Im planning to use a static forwarder.. does this affect the cookie? I thought not, you have to use the original http-link right? Many thanx in advance... Greetz, ________________________________ Martin Martin at alsoalsoalso.de From dirk at haun-online.de Thu Jul 15 17:39:46 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:39:46 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <20040715180144.PQNL5699.amsfep20-int.chello.nl@adolfje> References: <20040715180144.PQNL5699.amsfep20-int.chello.nl@adolfje> Message-ID: <20040715223946.4349@smtp.haun-online.de> Martin, >So I freshly installed a new geeklog on the new host. Good approach. >Now I copied my stories from the old mysqldb. Also copied the users to the >new db. Wrong approach. You should imoprt the _entire_ database on your new host. Also, try searching the forums on geeklog.net, as moving a site has been discussed before (and, I guess, it's time we add it to the FAQ ...). bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://mypod.de/ From dirk at haun-online.de Thu Jul 15 17:43:10 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 23:43:10 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <002001c469f2$d3813940$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> References: <002001c469f2$d3813940$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> Message-ID: <20040715224310.2251@smtp.haun-online.de> Bruce, >I am not sure I understand this comment. Why would I expect it to be >rejected? I was actually half-joking. Opening new windows is, IMO, a bad idea (see the forum thread I linked to in my previous reply for a detailed discussion). And if you really, really want that, then it should be easy for you to make that change in Geeklog's core code. bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://geeklog.info/ From dirk at haun-online.de Fri Jul 16 14:16:06 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2004 20:16:06 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <20040715223946.4349@smtp.haun-online.de> References: <20040715223946.4349@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <20040716191606.11478@smtp.haun-online.de> >Also, try searching the forums on geeklog.net, as moving a site has been >discussed before (and, I guess, it's time we add it to the FAQ ...). Here's that FAQ entry now. Hope it helps ... http://www.geeklog.net/faqman/index.php?op=view&t=37 bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://geeklog.info/ From Martin at alsoalsoalso.de Sat Jul 17 09:18:31 2004 From: Martin at alsoalsoalso.de (Tinus) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 15:18:31 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <20040716191606.11478@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <20040717131840.SMHZ10114.amsfep17-int.chello.nl@adolfje> Thanx .. with help of the people on the mailing-list AND the FAQ .. I finally made it .. Manually adding and deleting Sql lines .. Even learned more about Sql hehe Thanx all and have a look how it turned out on http://Triest.ma.cx (it's in Dutch, but youll get the idea... ) ________________________________ Martin -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun Sent: vrijdag 16 juli 2004 20:16 To: geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help >Also, try searching the forums on geeklog.net, as moving a site has been >discussed before (and, I guess, it's time we add it to the FAQ ...). Here's that FAQ entry now. Hope it helps ... http://www.geeklog.net/faqman/index.php?op=view&t=37 bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://geeklog.info/ _______________________________________________ geeklog-users mailing list geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users From bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz Sat Jul 17 10:40:08 2004 From: bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz (bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 10:40:08 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help References: <000b01c469a5$d9ab50a0$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> <40F560F7.5000304@tonybibbs.com> <019101c46a7b$28e22f10$64f78818@TRIANGLEWEB> <40F6A408.1020705@tonybibbs.com> Message-ID: <004001c46c0b$f54275b0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> Ok, now it's my turn to get irritated, Note here a comment that seems to contradict what was said: >> or open a new window with a target="_blank" >> html tag. > >This isn't currently supported. Add this as a feature request on >http://project.geeklog.net And expect it to be rejected ;-) <http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=3&showtopic=11074> Expect it to be rejected!!! I thought you were just saying that by reading the contents of the config.php file I'd learn just how to do this. Not that I'd come to learn that it can't be done. Secondly, going through my site I don't see a link to view/read my config.php file. If I'm to ftp to the site and download that config.php file just say so, with a path to where it is located. I know that one cannot see php code in a browser since it is executed on the server and thus only html is returned. So, why not say the config.php file that you want to read is located in this directory and you can download it and read it, study it whatever? Customers that wanted to use a system like this and that I thought could on their own often have never programmed in php or know what it is exactly. That is no problem though, I'll set it up so that they can do what they need. Please just clarify for me something very simple. Is there a link on my site that will take me to a view of the config.php file that I can view/read and then maybe even modify and update. If not, I will be glad to download the correct file using ftp. I just need to know where in my installation it resides. That's all I ask. Say, go here-> download, read, modify and then if I modify or change then upload it back. That will get me going and then I'll be able to read more in depth. It did appear that one could not add any content one chooses and target it to a specific block that one places anywhere one chooses on the screen. I'd be thrilled to learn that I'm mistaken and that I can pull in content from elsewhere, an image, a web page or content from a page and make it appear in say upper right block for example. Thank you for your understanding, support, work and patience, Bruce Whealton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Bibbs" <tony at tonybibbs.com> To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help > Bruce, man, you are killing me. Here is most likley my last friendly > response. Read below > > bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz wrote: > > >When you say look at the config.php file, does that mean I can download it > >and edit it and then upload it to my installation? > > > > > Config.php is the Geeklog configuration file. It is the primary place > for tweaking the meriad of configuration options in Geeklog. When I say > 'look' at it I mean, read the file. There are a lot of excellent > comments in there that explain what each option is. You should read > then *entire* file before asking further questions so as not to irritate > anyone. > > >The ability to include content into my site from elsewhere such as have a > >weblog or rss feed or anything included into a block, which would be like > >targeting it to a frame on the same page would be desirable. > > > Already suppoted, please read the manual http://www.geeklog.net/docs and > the in-progress wiki documentation at > http://wiki.geeklog.net/wiki/index.php. > > >Perhaps I'll > >have to use a couple CMS that are linked together to get all the features > >needed. XOOPS let one include the content in a block and you could write a > >custom block that has your own html/php code in it. > > > This is the notion of a PHP block in Geeklog. Again, it is supported. > Again, it can be found in one of the documentation repositories above. > > >Unfortunately it is > >rather ugly for a CMS and doing what one wants is less than easy to get done > >even if it is supported. Their forum for help is setup poorly as one cannot > >even send emails to one's main email account. I need that feature to have > >someone get an email that says their post has been responded to and to go to > >the site to read it. > > > > > The Geeklog forum plugin already does this. If you can't read the > manual for that or figure it out own your own please see the author, > Blaine, at http://www.portalparts.com > > >The fact that I can have stories/blogs within Geeklog that are available > >even to someone that I don't have to get to register is a good feature. I'd > >like to have people register for my site but sometimes there is a need to > >have a direct link to the publication or story, etc. that does not say > >permission denied. > > > > > Again, read config.php > > >I've been looking at collaborating with a site at: myTown.ca that is based > >on a proprietary CMS. The goal is to find ways to allow any CMS to > >collaborate with any other CMS/blog or any web site, that is to have a > >"community" that is encapsulated. > > > >Tikiwiki seems able to do that but it is less than intuitive. One benefit > >of that is that one can in addition to including content from elsewhere in > >the site, you can setup individual user views of the site, individually > >customized content. So, perhaps I can embed my Geeklog site into something > >that will be a portal if you will, that pulls in content from elsewhere and > >keeps you there... a replacement for my.yahoo.com for some friends of mine. > > > > > Before you even begin thinking about customizing Geeklog you need to > learn the basics. Until you have successfully figured out the above > tasks you will not be ready to tackle an integration effort like this. > Also, given your apparent dislike of reading reference material, even if > you complete the above I doubt you have the patience to actually get > this done. > > Sorry, I thought maybe I could have replied nicely one more time but I > failed miserably. > > --Tony > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > From dirk at haun-online.de Sat Jul 17 11:16:43 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 17:16:43 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <004001c46c0b$f54275b0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> References: <004001c46c0b$f54275b0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> Message-ID: <20040717161643.22403@smtp.haun-online.de> Bruce, >Ok, now it's my turn to get irritated, >Note here a comment that seems to contradict what was said: To (hopefully) clarify the issue with target="_blank": This is not supported in Geeklog (that's why Tony suggested submitting it as a feature request). However, that particular issue is one of my pet peeves and since I have - more or less - the final word what goes into Geeklog 1.3.x and what doesn't, chances are pretty low that such a feature request would be implemented. Especially as it's so easy to add yourself, as I've pointed out in another post. Sorry for the use of irony in my original post - it sometimes just doesn't work out over email ... >Secondly, going through my site I don't see a link to view/read my >config.php file. If I'm to ftp to the site and download that config.php >file just say so Well, you must have changed and uploaded that file originally in order to get your site running. You probably still have a copy around on your PC. As Tony said, config.php is Geeklog's main configuration file (for settings that won't change too often). It's also documented in Geeklog's documentation: <http://www.geeklog.net/docs/config.html> There are over 100 configuration options in config.php. So when you're looking for something, this is the place to start. Granted, Geeklog's current documentation isn't exactly stellar, but please read the little that we have before you start posting questions that probably have already been answered in the documentation ... Also check out the FAQ, <http://www.geeklog.net/faqman/> and the Documentation Wiki <http://wiki.geeklog.net/>. bye, Dirk -- http://www.geeklog.net/ http://geeklog.info/ From Martin at alsoalsoalso.de Sat Jul 17 11:47:54 2004 From: Martin at alsoalsoalso.de (Tinus) Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 17:47:54 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <004001c46c0b$f54275b0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> Message-ID: <20040717154800.UKHC7764.amsfep16-int.chello.nl@adolfje> Hi Bruce, I dont know very much about GL or php programming. But I can help you with the software for editing your config.php file. I am using a program named HTML-kit. This is anhtml-editor that also loads your site via FTP so you can see all your files and edit and update them as you go. It is also for php editing and you can download a plugin for help files on php editing. http://www.chami.com/html-kit/ This is where you can read about the software and in "Downloads" download it ;) Hope I could help you out a little... Greetingz ________________________________ Martin -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz Sent: zaterdag 17 juli 2004 16:40 To: geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help Ok, now it's my turn to get irritated, Note here a comment that seems to contradict what was said: >> or open a new window with a target="_blank" >> html tag. > >This isn't currently supported. Add this as a feature request on >http://project.geeklog.net And expect it to be rejected ;-) <http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=3&showtopic=11074> Expect it to be rejected!!! I thought you were just saying that by reading the contents of the config.php file I'd learn just how to do this. Not that I'd come to learn that it can't be done. Secondly, going through my site I don't see a link to view/read my config.php file. If I'm to ftp to the site and download that config.php file just say so, with a path to where it is located. I know that one cannot see php code in a browser since it is executed on the server and thus only html is returned. So, why not say the config.php file that you want to read is located in this directory and you can download it and read it, study it whatever? Customers that wanted to use a system like this and that I thought could on their own often have never programmed in php or know what it is exactly. That is no problem though, I'll set it up so that they can do what they need. Please just clarify for me something very simple. Is there a link on my site that will take me to a view of the config.php file that I can view/read and then maybe even modify and update. If not, I will be glad to download the correct file using ftp. I just need to know where in my installation it resides. That's all I ask. Say, go here-> download, read, modify and then if I modify or change then upload it back. That will get me going and then I'll be able to read more in depth. It did appear that one could not add any content one chooses and target it to a specific block that one places anywhere one chooses on the screen. I'd be thrilled to learn that I'm mistaken and that I can pull in content from elsewhere, an image, a web page or content from a page and make it appear in say upper right block for example. Thank you for your understanding, support, work and patience, Bruce Whealton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Bibbs" <tony at tonybibbs.com> To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 11:34 AM Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help > Bruce, man, you are killing me. Here is most likley my last friendly > response. Read below > > bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz wrote: > > >When you say look at the config.php file, does that mean I can download it > >and edit it and then upload it to my installation? > > > > > Config.php is the Geeklog configuration file. It is the primary place > for tweaking the meriad of configuration options in Geeklog. When I say > 'look' at it I mean, read the file. There are a lot of excellent > comments in there that explain what each option is. You should read > then *entire* file before asking further questions so as not to irritate > anyone. > > >The ability to include content into my site from elsewhere such as have a > >weblog or rss feed or anything included into a block, which would be like > >targeting it to a frame on the same page would be desirable. > > > Already suppoted, please read the manual http://www.geeklog.net/docs and > the in-progress wiki documentation at > http://wiki.geeklog.net/wiki/index.php. > > >Perhaps I'll > >have to use a couple CMS that are linked together to get all the features > >needed. XOOPS let one include the content in a block and you could write a > >custom block that has your own html/php code in it. > > > This is the notion of a PHP block in Geeklog. Again, it is supported. > Again, it can be found in one of the documentation repositories above. > > >Unfortunately it is > >rather ugly for a CMS and doing what one wants is less than easy to get done > >even if it is supported. Their forum for help is setup poorly as one cannot > >even send emails to one's main email account. I need that feature to have > >someone get an email that says their post has been responded to and to go to > >the site to read it. > > > > > The Geeklog forum plugin already does this. If you can't read the > manual for that or figure it out own your own please see the author, > Blaine, at http://www.portalparts.com > > >The fact that I can have stories/blogs within Geeklog that are available > >even to someone that I don't have to get to register is a good feature. I'd > >like to have people register for my site but sometimes there is a need to > >have a direct link to the publication or story, etc. that does not say > >permission denied. > > > > > Again, read config.php > > >I've been looking at collaborating with a site at: myTown.ca that is based > >on a proprietary CMS. The goal is to find ways to allow any CMS to > >collaborate with any other CMS/blog or any web site, that is to have a > >"community" that is encapsulated. > > > >Tikiwiki seems able to do that but it is less than intuitive. One benefit > >of that is that one can in addition to including content from elsewhere in > >the site, you can setup individual user views of the site, individually > >customized content. So, perhaps I can embed my Geeklog site into something > >that will be a portal if you will, that pulls in content from elsewhere and > >keeps you there... a replacement for my.yahoo.com for some friends of mine. > > > > > Before you even begin thinking about customizing Geeklog you need to > learn the basics. Until you have successfully figured out the above > tasks you will not be ready to tackle an integration effort like this. > Also, given your apparent dislike of reading reference material, even if > you complete the above I doubt you have the patience to actually get > this done. > > Sorry, I thought maybe I could have replied nicely one more time but I > failed miserably. > > --Tony > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > _______________________________________________ geeklog-users mailing list geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users From bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz Sun Jul 18 02:32:12 2004 From: bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz (bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 02:32:12 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help References: <004001c46c0b$f54275b0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> <20040717161643.22403@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <00d201c46c90$fb5e2cc0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> > To (hopefully) clarify the issue with target="_blank": This is not > supported in Geeklog (that's why Tony suggested submitting it as a > feature request). However, that particular issue is one of my pet peeves > and since I have - more or less - the final word what goes into Geeklog > 1.3.x and what doesn't, chances are pretty low that such a feature > request would be implemented. Especially as it's so easy to add yourself, > as I've pointed out in another post. If you don't like using target="_blank" what would you use? Using frames for specific targets is not always the best coding style as what gets collected by search engines which help people find your site is the frame document and not the content areas. A default use of target="_self" is a pet peeve of mine. I have a tabbed browser that I found works nice with links that open in a new window, which it doesn't catch as popups. It does catch true popups very well. Just going to some of the free graphics sites on the web will remind me of that fact. When I'm on the Geeklog pages and am given a link within a forum to check on this link and then that link, to see that this link happened to open a new site right were I was reading is very irritating. I was about to open the second link when I have to instead open a new window for the same page so that I can browse to the different links and keep my place in the text flow. 1) I don't want my visitors lost somewhere else or ever leaving the confines of my site 2) I don't want my visitors to ever have to rely on a back arrow on their browset to get back to where they were and the exact place where they were reading. 3) I always ensure that to get back where they were I have a link there 4) I cannot do that when I've just taken them away from my site 5) As a visitor I've just lost my place in the forum that I was reading. 6) If I'm told, a quick search came up with this and then a FAQ here is useful. Once I go to the first link I'm lost from that whole train of thought. I'm also not expecting to get back to where I was exactly in the forum. I may even be logged out of the forums and have to find my place back. 7) My way of dealing with that is to open new window with current page as the content. Not everyone can think of that solution and it is very undesireable and frustrating. 8) I certainly have no problem having one new window open for one external link and another for another external link. 9) If something goes wrong of the external link is less than desired I'm still in the same forum to continue discussions 10) Not only would I not take someone away from my site with an external link, I certainly wouldn't do that in a forum. I certainly want to stay in the same forum browsing more articles. 11) Having seen that I lost my place with a window opening up to replace where I am in a forum I will often stop the browser from trying to take me to that site. 12) All too often I've had to go back to a page to fix something only to be asked to try to refresh the page with less than perfect results. 13) I never want any link to write over any page I have open including the page where I'm reading. 14) A link to an external page should be external to all other pages and links in my browser for these reasons. It is much easier to go close a new window and keep on going then to worry about whether a link has written over some other page or content or worst of all the page where I currently am reading. So, if it is easy to add myself, I'll look at that config.php file. No, it's not on my hard drive, as it was installed from the server using Fantastico. The server let me specify the subdomain and other information and then click install. Hence my desire to find the config.php file. Bruce > > Sorry for the use of irony in my original post - it sometimes just > doesn't work out over email ... > > > >Secondly, going through my site I don't see a link to view/read my > >config.php file. If I'm to ftp to the site and download that config.php > >file just say so > > Well, you must have changed and uploaded that file originally in order to > get your site running. You probably still have a copy around on your PC. > > As Tony said, config.php is Geeklog's main configuration file (for > settings that won't change too often). It's also documented in Geeklog's > documentation: <http://www.geeklog.net/docs/config.html> > > There are over 100 configuration options in config.php. So when you're > looking for something, this is the place to start. > > Granted, Geeklog's current documentation isn't exactly stellar, but > please read the little that we have before you start posting questions > that probably have already been answered in the documentation ... > > Also check out the FAQ, <http://www.geeklog.net/faqman/> and the > Documentation Wiki <http://wiki.geeklog.net/>. > > bye, Dirk > > > -- > http://www.geeklog.net/ > http://geeklog.info/ > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > From bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz Sun Jul 18 02:35:03 2004 From: bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz (bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 02:35:03 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help References: <20040717154800.UKHC7764.amsfep16-int.chello.nl@adolfje> Message-ID: <00d601c46c91$5e3cb0f0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> Thanks. Btw, does this offer a testing environment as well? Meaning some editors will let one execute the code, actually they'd be more than editors to be exact. But some html IDEs do offer that feature to allow one to see the code execution during development. Thanks, Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tinus" <Martin at alsoalsoalso.de> To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 11:47 AM Subject: RE: [geeklog-users] New user help > Hi Bruce, > > I dont know very much about GL or php programming. But I can help you with > the software for editing your config.php file. > > I am using a program named HTML-kit. This is anhtml-editor that also loads > your site via FTP so you can see all your files and edit and update them as > you go. It is also for php editing and you can download a plugin for help > files on php editing. > > http://www.chami.com/html-kit/ > > This is where you can read about the software and in "Downloads" download it > ;) > > Hope I could help you out a little... > > Greetingz > > ________________________________ > > Martin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of > bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz > Sent: zaterdag 17 juli 2004 16:40 > To: geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help > > Ok, now it's my turn to get irritated, > Note here a comment that seems to contradict what was said: > >> or open a new window with a target="_blank" > >> html tag. > > > >This isn't currently supported. Add this as a feature request on > >http://project.geeklog.net > > And expect it to be rejected ;-) > > <http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=3&showtopic=11074> > Expect it to be rejected!!! I thought you were just saying that by reading > the contents of the config.php file I'd learn just how to do this. Not that > I'd come to learn that it can't be done. > > Secondly, going through my site I don't see a link to view/read my > config.php file. If I'm to ftp to the site and download that config.php > file just say so, with a path to where it is located. I know that one > cannot see php code in a browser since it is executed on the server and thus > only html is returned. So, why not say the config.php file that you want to > read is located in this directory and you can download it and read it, study > it whatever? > Customers that wanted to use a system like this and that I thought could on > their own often have never programmed in php or know what it is exactly. > That is no problem though, I'll set it up so that they can do what they > need. > Please just clarify for me something very simple. Is there a link on my > site that will take me to a view of the config.php file that I can view/read > and then maybe even modify and update. > If not, I will be glad to download the correct file using ftp. I just need > to know where in my installation it resides. That's all I ask. Say, go > here-> download, read, modify and then if I modify or change then upload it > back. That will get me going and then I'll be able to read more in depth. > It did appear that one could not add any content one chooses and > target it to a specific block that one places anywhere one chooses on the > screen. I'd be thrilled to learn that I'm mistaken and that I can pull in > content from elsewhere, an image, a web page or content from a page and make > it appear in say upper right block for example. > Thank you for your understanding, support, work and patience, > Bruce Whealton > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Bibbs" <tony at tonybibbs.com> > To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 11:34 AM > Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help > > > > Bruce, man, you are killing me. Here is most likley my last friendly > > response. Read below > > > > bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz wrote: > > > > >When you say look at the config.php file, does that mean I can download > it > > >and edit it and then upload it to my installation? > > > > > > > > Config.php is the Geeklog configuration file. It is the primary place > > for tweaking the meriad of configuration options in Geeklog. When I say > > 'look' at it I mean, read the file. There are a lot of excellent > > comments in there that explain what each option is. You should read > > then *entire* file before asking further questions so as not to irritate > > anyone. > > > > >The ability to include content into my site from elsewhere such as have a > > >weblog or rss feed or anything included into a block, which would be like > > >targeting it to a frame on the same page would be desirable. > > > > > Already suppoted, please read the manual http://www.geeklog.net/docs and > > the in-progress wiki documentation at > > http://wiki.geeklog.net/wiki/index.php. > > > > >Perhaps I'll > > >have to use a couple CMS that are linked together to get all the features > > >needed. XOOPS let one include the content in a block and you could write > a > > >custom block that has your own html/php code in it. > > > > > This is the notion of a PHP block in Geeklog. Again, it is supported. > > Again, it can be found in one of the documentation repositories above. > > > > >Unfortunately it is > > >rather ugly for a CMS and doing what one wants is less than easy to get > done > > >even if it is supported. Their forum for help is setup poorly as one > cannot > > >even send emails to one's main email account. I need that feature to > have > > >someone get an email that says their post has been responded to and to go > to > > >the site to read it. > > > > > > > > The Geeklog forum plugin already does this. If you can't read the > > manual for that or figure it out own your own please see the author, > > Blaine, at http://www.portalparts.com > > > > >The fact that I can have stories/blogs within Geeklog that are available > > >even to someone that I don't have to get to register is a good feature. > I'd > > >like to have people register for my site but sometimes there is a need to > > >have a direct link to the publication or story, etc. that does not say > > >permission denied. > > > > > > > > Again, read config.php > > > > >I've been looking at collaborating with a site at: myTown.ca that is > based > > >on a proprietary CMS. The goal is to find ways to allow any CMS to > > >collaborate with any other CMS/blog or any web site, that is to have a > > >"community" that is encapsulated. > > > > > >Tikiwiki seems able to do that but it is less than intuitive. One > benefit > > >of that is that one can in addition to including content from elsewhere > in > > >the site, you can setup individual user views of the site, individually > > >customized content. So, perhaps I can embed my Geeklog site into > something > > >that will be a portal if you will, that pulls in content from elsewhere > and > > >keeps you there... a replacement for my.yahoo.com for some friends of > mine. > > > > > > > > Before you even begin thinking about customizing Geeklog you need to > > learn the basics. Until you have successfully figured out the above > > tasks you will not be ready to tackle an integration effort like this. > > Also, given your apparent dislike of reading reference material, even if > > you complete the above I doubt you have the patience to actually get > > this done. > > > > Sorry, I thought maybe I could have replied nicely one more time but I > > failed miserably. > > > > --Tony > > _______________________________________________ > > geeklog-users mailing list > > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > From dirk at haun-online.de Sun Jul 18 04:35:24 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 10:35:24 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <00d201c46c90$fb5e2cc0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> References: <00d201c46c90$fb5e2cc0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> Message-ID: <20040718093524.486@smtp.haun-online.de> Bruce, >If you don't like using target="_blank" what would you use? If I feel the need for a new window, I can always open one. Any browser (at least those that actually use windows ...) offers the option to open a link in a new window. Not many offer the option to not open links in a new window (Mozilla does, fortunately, but it's hidden in a config file somewhere). It's all about choice and not forcing your way of handling things down your visitor's throats. >Using frames for specific targets is not always the best coding style I think we can agree that frames are even worse than target="_blank". >1) I don't want my visitors lost somewhere else or ever leaving the confines >of my site Force doesn't work on the WWW. Never has, never will. If the visitors want to leave your site, they'll leave. The only thing you can do is to annoy them such that they don't even want to come back ... >2) I don't want my visitors to ever have to rely on a back arrow on their >browset to get back to where they were and the exact place where they were >reading. The back button is one of the essential means of navigation on the web. Why break it? My favourite anecdote is when I had pretty much the same discussion with a friend who used target="_blank" all over his site. While we had that discussion, someone was actually browsing said friend's site on a PC next to us. And at some point, that person uttered his confusion about the back button not working any more. Guess what? A link had opened in a new window without him noticing it, hiding the original window. The only thing he did notice was that his back button didn't work, causing him some frustration. You don't want to frustrate the visitors of your site. [paraphrasing 3) - 14)] > I ... I ... I ... Don't forget that websites are mainly for your visitors, not for yourself. Give them the choice to browse it the way THEY want. >So, if it is easy to add myself, I'll look at that config.php file. It is not in config.php. Which links exactly are you talking about? I've already pointed out where you can change it for links from RSS feeds. For Geeklog's links section, change the template files (in layout/YourTheme/links), and for links in stories, you'll have to add the target attribute in the list of allowed HTML tags (that one is actually in config.php - see the documentation and the FAQ for details). >No, it's not on my hard drive, as it was installed from the server using >Fantastico. K, didn't think of hosts that have Geeklog pre-installed. It should be somewhere outside of your webroot, i.e. not in any directory that can be accessed from the web. It shouldn't be too hard to find. bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://www.haun.info/ From bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz Sun Jul 18 15:32:28 2004 From: bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz (bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 15:32:28 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help References: <00d201c46c90$fb5e2cc0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> <20040718093524.486@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <004001c46cfd$f7f9de90$12ac9418@TRIANGLEWEB> We need to do some clarifying here as I am way off on what you're saying. > Bruce, > > >If you don't like using target="_blank" what would you use? > > If I feel the need for a new window, I can always open one. Any browser > (at least those that actually use windows ...) offers the option to open > a link in a new window. Not many offer the option to not open links in a > new window (Mozilla does, fortunately, but it's hidden in a config file > somewhere). > > It's all about choice and not forcing your way of handling things down > your visitor's throats. I offer choice in that by clicking on a link they do *not* loose their place in what they were viewing!! I am not taking them away from where they were just reading. I always hope that when I click on a link will I loose my place! Now, if I knew that the designer was going to force me to open a new window I'd do so. I have several windows open, if suddenly I click on a link and I'm somewhere else away from where I'm reading, I'm lost. Many people have no idea that they should open another window just in case where they were reading will throw them somewhere. In my solution they can simply and easily close a window and they are *not* taken away from where they were. To me, to have a link in a forum or anywhere on a page for that matter open right there where I'm reading is like someone taking the book I'm reading out of my hands before I can even note the page I'm on and throwing something else in my face. I'd rather have what they want to show me somewhere else. Give me a chance to mark my place in the book and then look at what they want to show me. Not only that but out of concern for them I also make sure that every page that I want to show them has a link to get them back where they started. NO browser back arrows that scream about content not there and do I want to try to refresh the content. DHTML makes some admirable attempts at this with views that appear near an item and give further info. But alas DHTML is not standard in the way it is implemented in all browsers. So, far from forcing anything I am allowing the person to stay where they want to be. If I'm ready to entirely leave a web site then and only then will I do one of two things enter the address in the address bar or two open a new window with an option to open a blank window or my home page. No click, surprise your lost. I also can control the closing of any windows that are used. If I'm scrolling through a list of downloads and click to download, the new window opens but the old one is still there, right where I left off. When the dowload is finished, ** I get to choose*** to close that window. The alternative is to look back through all the open windows to figure out which one had the page that interested me. When new content has replaced the old I have to look at each window individually and look at their history to find the one that had the content I wanted to keep visible in the first place. > > > >Using frames for specific targets is not always the best coding style > > I think we can agree that frames are even worse than target="_blank". Absolutely, positively not! I don't think I could imagine something more beneficial than the proper use of frames. I was just being shown that on a site that is out of Canada that has interests in offering free inclusion of similar writers sites into the site. I can update my site and that site where it appears on their site will automatically reproduce the changes. It is nicely integrated into the content on the site. Talk about Wow!!! That is a community idea!! The potential is amazing. I can include so many different items and so much content into one area allowing it to be fresh and updated from elsewhere. News stories, publications, forums, and the list is endless. On one end the content is updated with fresh material and yet I the visitor can go to one place and see what is new, or revisit what was there. Entirely new sites can be available within the same framework. And the community that is including the page of mine, needs not be told to do anything when I publish new material. Everyone will see it and I don't even have to try to let everyone know who might be intested in knowing. Web Ferret is another example of how this is handled quite well. It searches a number of search engines, creates a result set that appears in two frames a small lower frame, that can be adjusted in size and the results frame where I see the page. I click through the results and see each one previewed above. I can handle a large result set quickly moving through options. Third a dictionary, encyclopedia, glossary. Do I want to click on the B's and have the whole Dictionary setup go away? NO. I can have each letter of a glossary in a left or bottom window and the results can be shown above. Frames are a must for a Community site that pulls in content from elsewhere, especially if you want to keep the content fresh and up to date. And guarantee that you can adopt and include content as it changes on the site being pulled in. > > > >1) I don't want my visitors lost somewhere else or ever leaving the confines > >of my site > > Force doesn't work on the WWW. Never has, never will. If the visitors > want to leave your site, they'll leave. The only thing you can do is to > annoy them such that they don't even want to come back ... I won't come back if you take me away. If you have a community site and I go away I'm not spending the effort to figure out where I started. It's obvious to me you don't have any interest in showing me more. If you have two links to show me and I click on the first link and you send me away, don't expect me back. I follow a trail, tunneling toward the information I want. If I am sent in one direction, I'm going to follow that trail. If you make it possible for me to still return to your site because you have other content to show me, I'll know it because your site will remain visible to me. However, if you show me the first link and I look there, and then it takes me somewhere else, which gets me interested in something else, and so on, after 30 minutes I've forgotten about your site and it's other links. Unless it's still open for me to see. I publish a poetry magazine. If I have a link on the second page, that is external, am I going to want the person to loose their location in the magazine because they clicked on a link? Of course not! I want the pages to look the same, like they are reading a magazine. If there is a neat link that doesn't mean I want the poetry magazine crumpled and gone, with a user saying, "where did it go? where is it?" I was just reading about this guys poetry and I clicked on a link to see some other work by him and now the magazine is gone." Yeah, I can make sure I don't include any external links until the person gets to the last page but that is controlling how a person reads. I just want to keep the look of the publication throughout. I can do that and keep the look of the magazine throughout. ... giving the reader a marker as it were. It's like that with a community site. I want my content in the community area. I want some content to come from here and some from there but it all comes together into a "community" area. Some might be displayed from a site across the world and appear in a block upper right or center right. I can read through there but I have the safe feeling of knowing that I'm in a certain area. I'm not lost. I might want to have the option of going through pages and information in one block that is nicely placed but that's what I expect from a community site. Collaborative content! It means others can go about shaping their pages and allow me to include it in a community and not have to worry about what they do with their site. I obviously have no control over whether they link back to some page on my site. Put it in a block on my site and I don't have to worry. I can now offer that to the visitor at the visitor's choosing. > > > >2) I don't want my visitors to ever have to rely on a back arrow on their > >browset to get back to where they were and the exact place where they were > >reading. > > The back button is one of the essential means of navigation on the web. > Why break it? It is broken. I can't count the times when I hit return and information that was live is gone. A community site is just that a (meaning one) site. The back arrow is for other sites. Take listing on ebay... you forget something right after hitting next. Does the back arrow work perfectly? No. you get this screaming dialogue box suggesting you might find what you put in there or it could be all gone. The content that shows up on a back button is not always predicatable. It may be that it's 2 buttons back or longer before you get to wherer you were. Or you are caught in a loop that the back button can't get you out of. A good web design has a home link, a consistent navigation throughout. I don't have to think, "ok, where am I and how do I get here or there?" If I fill out a form I don't want to go back to the form. That option will be there if i need it to be. I can make it easier on the user by giving them a choice of links. If each page has the same menu then every page has the same way to get to where I want. Even if I want to go back to the form, if I've included it on the menu, which I always will, then it's right there for the visitor. Just click on the same menu item they say on the first page they visited and the nth page. And if I open a new windows that new window will include that same menu. I've covered all bases. Since, I have all options on the site available to the visitor what am I forcing on them? They can type in a new address, they can go to any page they choose. Any page... it's all on the menu. > Oh, I'm just beginning....For every anecdote you have I'm sure I'll find about 10 others. I love to write. So, this will be fun. :-) Bruce > My favourite anecdote is when I had pretty much the same discussion with > a friend who used target="_blank" all over his site. While we had that > discussion, someone was actually browsing said friend's site on a PC next > to us. And at some point, that person uttered his confusion about the > back button not working any more. Guess what? A link had opened in a new > window without him noticing it, hiding the original window. The only > thing he did notice was that his back button didn't work, causing him > some frustration. > > You don't want to frustrate the visitors of your site. > > > [paraphrasing 3) - 14)] > > I ... I ... I ... > > Don't forget that websites are mainly for your visitors, not for > yourself. Give them the choice to browse it the way THEY want. > > > >So, if it is easy to add myself, I'll look at that config.php file. > > It is not in config.php. > > Which links exactly are you talking about? I've already pointed out where > you can change it for links from RSS feeds. For Geeklog's links section, > change the template files (in layout/YourTheme/links), and for links in > stories, you'll have to add the target attribute in the list of allowed > HTML tags (that one is actually in config.php - see the documentation and > the FAQ for details). > > > >No, it's not on my hard drive, as it was installed from the server using > >Fantastico. > > K, didn't think of hosts that have Geeklog pre-installed. It should be > somewhere outside of your webroot, i.e. not in any directory that can be > accessed from the web. It shouldn't be too hard to find. > > bye, Dirk > > > -- > http://www.haun-online.de/ > http://www.haun.info/ > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > From dirk at haun-online.de Sun Jul 18 16:11:34 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 22:11:34 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <004001c46cfd$f7f9de90$12ac9418@TRIANGLEWEB> References: <004001c46cfd$f7f9de90$12ac9418@TRIANGLEWEB> Message-ID: <20040718211134.21533@smtp.haun-online.de> Bruce, >I offer choice in that by clicking on a link they do *not* loose their place >in what they were viewing!! I'd like to chose to not have that "benefit". How can I do that if you've already decided what you think was best for me? >> I think we can agree that frames are even worse than target="_blank". >Absolutely, positively not! I don't think I could imagine something more >beneficial than the proper use of frames. Well, in that case, we have to agree that we have completely different views of the web (as if that wasn't obvious by now ...). >> The back button is one of the essential means of navigation on the web. >> Why break it? >It is broken. I can't count the times when I hit return and information >that was live is gone. Then those sites were broken, not the back button. >The back arrow is for other sites. The back button is supposed to take you one step back, as in "click - oops, wrong link - back". And that should work no matter where that link took you (to another site or to another page on the same site). >I love to write. Unfortunately, it was hard to read with that unusual line length you've been using. So I have to admit that I've only skimmed your post. >So, this will be fun. :-) Sorry to be a spoilsport, but the fun ends for me here. As I said, we seem to have pretty much opposite views on how websites should work and it doesn't look like we're going to change each other's point of view from this little discussion. I hope you have fun using Geeklog nonetheless. bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://www.macosx-faq.de/ From philip at vogon.net Sun Jul 18 19:13:04 2004 From: philip at vogon.net (Philip Peake) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:13:04 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem editing own stories Message-ID: <40FB0400.6080306@vogon.net> My problem: * Login as my own user (not admin). * My user (Philip) has the following rights assigned: - All Users - Story Admin - Block Admin - Link Admin - Topic Admin - Event Admin - Poll Admin - Logged-in Users - Static Page Admin * Create a new story. * Attempt to edit story. * Edit fails with logged message: Sun Jul 18 15:51:18 2004 (4 at 10.0.0.7) - User Philip tried to illegally edit story 2004071815481577. Looking at DB contents: Philip has uid=4 The story has uid=4 The story has owerid=4 The story has sid=2004071815481577 The story show permissions as: Owner Group Members Anonymous R E R E R R x x x - x x Admin can (or course) modify with no problem. This problem is reproducible. Any ideas what is wrong? From vfuria at gmail.com Sun Jul 18 19:21:58 2004 From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 19:21:58 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem editing own stories In-Reply-To: <40FB0400.6080306@vogon.net> References: <40FB0400.6080306@vogon.net> Message-ID: <8319e2d60407181621791f647c@mail.gmail.com> Check to make sure that the "Topic Admin" group has read and write permissions on the topic to which the article belongs. -Vinny On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:13:04 -0700, Philip Peake <philip at vogon.net> wrote: > My problem: > > * Login as my own user (not admin). > > * My user (Philip) has the following rights assigned: > - All Users > - Story Admin > - Block Admin > - Link Admin > - Topic Admin > - Event Admin > - Poll Admin > - Logged-in Users > - Static Page Admin > > * Create a new story. > > * Attempt to edit story. > > * Edit fails with logged message: > Sun Jul 18 15:51:18 2004 (4 at 10.0.0.7) - User Philip tried to > illegally edit story 2004071815481577. > > Looking at DB contents: > > Philip has uid=4 > The story has uid=4 > The story has owerid=4 > The story has sid=2004071815481577 > > The story show permissions as: > > Owner Group Members Anonymous > R E R E R R > x x x - x x > > Admin can (or course) modify with no problem. > This problem is reproducible. > > Any ideas what is wrong? > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > From philip at vogon.net Sun Jul 18 20:18:17 2004 From: philip at vogon.net (Philip Peake) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 17:18:17 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem editing own stories In-Reply-To: <8319e2d60407181621791f647c@mail.gmail.com> References: <40FB0400.6080306@vogon.net> <8319e2d60407181621791f647c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <40FB1349.9070108@vogon.net> Vincent Furia wrote: >Check to make sure that the "Topic Admin" group has read and write >permissions on the topic to which the article belongs. > > I assume you mean edit (E) permission? No, it doesn't - but why should that be needed? I am the owner, and owner has R/E permissions. >-Vinny > >On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:13:04 -0700, Philip Peake <philip at vogon.net> wrote: > > >>My problem: >> >> * Login as my own user (not admin). >> >> * My user (Philip) has the following rights assigned: >> - All Users >> - Story Admin >> - Block Admin >> - Link Admin >> - Topic Admin >> - Event Admin >> - Poll Admin >> - Logged-in Users >> - Static Page Admin >> >> * Create a new story. >> >> * Attempt to edit story. >> >> * Edit fails with logged message: >> Sun Jul 18 15:51:18 2004 (4 at 10.0.0.7) - User Philip tried to >>illegally edit story 2004071815481577. >> >>Looking at DB contents: >> >> Philip has uid=4 >> The story has uid=4 >> The story has owerid=4 >> The story has sid=2004071815481577 >> >>The story show permissions as: >> >> Owner Group Members Anonymous >> R E R E R R >> x x x - x x >> >>Admin can (or course) modify with no problem. >>This problem is reproducible. >> >>Any ideas what is wrong? >> >>_______________________________________________ >>geeklog-users mailing list >>geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >geeklog-users mailing list >geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://pairlist8.pair.net/pipermail/geeklog-users/attachments/20040718/e0bc8142/attachment.html> From philip at vogon.net Sun Jul 18 20:20:22 2004 From: philip at vogon.net (Philip Peake) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 17:20:22 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem editing own stories In-Reply-To: <8319e2d60407181621791f647c@mail.gmail.com> References: <40FB0400.6080306@vogon.net> <8319e2d60407181621791f647c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <40FB13C6.2090806@vogon.net> Vincent Furia wrote: >Check to make sure that the "Topic Admin" group has read and write >permissions on the topic to which the article belongs. > > That does in fact fix things - but as I said in my previous post, why is this needed when the owner (me) has R/E permissions? This seems like a potential security issue, doens't this give write permission to anyone via the group permissions? Philip >-Vinny > >On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 16:13:04 -0700, Philip Peake <philip at vogon.net> wrote: > > >>My problem: >> >> * Login as my own user (not admin). >> >> * My user (Philip) has the following rights assigned: >> - All Users >> - Story Admin >> - Block Admin >> - Link Admin >> - Topic Admin >> - Event Admin >> - Poll Admin >> - Logged-in Users >> - Static Page Admin >> >> * Create a new story. >> >> * Attempt to edit story. >> >> * Edit fails with logged message: >> Sun Jul 18 15:51:18 2004 (4 at 10.0.0.7) - User Philip tried to >>illegally edit story 2004071815481577. >> >>Looking at DB contents: >> >> Philip has uid=4 >> The story has uid=4 >> The story has owerid=4 >> The story has sid=2004071815481577 >> >>The story show permissions as: >> >> Owner Group Members Anonymous >> R E R E R R >> x x x - x x >> >>Admin can (or course) modify with no problem. >>This problem is reproducible. >> >>Any ideas what is wrong? >> >>_______________________________________________ >>geeklog-users mailing list >>geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >geeklog-users mailing list >geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://pairlist8.pair.net/pipermail/geeklog-users/attachments/20040718/c4459e09/attachment.html> From vfuria at gmail.com Sun Jul 18 20:34:50 2004 From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 20:34:50 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem editing own stories In-Reply-To: <40FB13C6.2090806@vogon.net> References: <40FB0400.6080306@vogon.net> <8319e2d60407181621791f647c@mail.gmail.com> <40FB13C6.2090806@vogon.net> Message-ID: <8319e2d60407181734bf789a0@mail.gmail.com> The thinking behind this is that you should not be able to edit an article (even if you originally wrote it and/or are the current owner) unless you have edit permissions for the topic as well. This allows a site Admin to restrict certain types of access to a given topic. Granted, this is not the simplest thing to understand and it perhaps should be rethought. However, since its been this way for several major releases now I don't think it will be changed unless there is an over riding reason to do so. This is not a security hole because you need read/edit for *both* the article you want to edit and the topic that it is in. Again, it just allows the Geeklog admin a much finer level of control. The best way to learn about Geeklog permissions (especially in these sorts of weird circumstances) is to try things out and see how things react. -Vinny ----- Original Message ----- From: Philip Peake <philip at vogon.net> Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 17:20:22 -0700 Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] Problem editing own stories To: geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net That does in fact fix things - but as I said in my previous post, why is this needed when the owner (me) has R/E permissions? This seems like a potential security issue, doens't this give write permission to anyone via the group permissions? Philip From philip at vogon.net Sun Jul 18 21:30:16 2004 From: philip at vogon.net (Philip Peake) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:30:16 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem editing own stories In-Reply-To: <8319e2d60407181734bf789a0@mail.gmail.com> References: <40FB0400.6080306@vogon.net> <8319e2d60407181621791f647c@mail.gmail.com> <40FB13C6.2090806@vogon.net> <8319e2d60407181734bf789a0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <40FB2428.202@vogon.net> Vincent Furia wrote: >The best way to learn about Geeklog permissions (especially in these >sorts of weird circumstances) is to try things out and see how things >react. > > :-( If there had been a small section in the doc explaining this - just the way you did, my life might have been a little bit easier. Ok, I do follow the reasoning - I was thinking more along the lines of Unix filesystem permissions - write on the directory (topic) lets you create a file (story), write on an existing story allows you to edit it, even thought there is no permission to write on the directory (do don't try to delete/replace!). Its different, and gives a different sort of flexibility - which I am ok with. Thanks for the explanation. Philip From vfuria at gmail.com Sun Jul 18 21:34:17 2004 From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:34:17 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem editing own stories In-Reply-To: <40FB2428.202@vogon.net> References: <40FB0400.6080306@vogon.net> <8319e2d60407181621791f647c@mail.gmail.com> <40FB13C6.2090806@vogon.net> <8319e2d60407181734bf789a0@mail.gmail.com> <40FB2428.202@vogon.net> Message-ID: <8319e2d6040718183425f79485@mail.gmail.com> No problem. That is what we're here for. :) -Vinny On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:30:16 -0700, Philip Peake <philip at vogon.net> wrote: > Vincent Furia wrote: > > >The best way to learn about Geeklog permissions (especially in these > >sorts of weird circumstances) is to try things out and see how things > >react. > > > > > :-( > > If there had been a small section in the doc explaining this - just the > way you did, my life might have been a little bit easier. > > Ok, I do follow the reasoning - I was thinking more along the lines of > Unix filesystem permissions - write on the directory (topic) lets you > create a file (story), write on an existing story allows you to edit it, > even thought there is no permission to write on the directory (do don't > try to delete/replace!). > > Its different, and gives a different sort of flexibility - which I am ok > with. > > Thanks for the explanation. > > Philip > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > From vfuria at gmail.com Sun Jul 18 21:49:45 2004 From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia) Date: Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:49:45 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] Problem editing own stories In-Reply-To: <8319e2d6040718183425f79485@mail.gmail.com> References: <40FB0400.6080306@vogon.net> <8319e2d60407181621791f647c@mail.gmail.com> <40FB13C6.2090806@vogon.net> <8319e2d60407181734bf789a0@mail.gmail.com> <40FB2428.202@vogon.net> <8319e2d6040718183425f79485@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8319e2d6040718184980f015f@mail.gmail.com> On a whim I added this to the Geeklog Wiki Documenation project. See: http://wiki.geeklog.net/wiki/index.php/Geeklog_Permissions -Vinny On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 21:34:17 -0400, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote: > No problem. That is what we're here for. :) > > -Vinny > > > > On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 18:30:16 -0700, Philip Peake <philip at vogon.net> wrote: > > Vincent Furia wrote: > > > > >The best way to learn about Geeklog permissions (especially in these > > >sorts of weird circumstances) is to try things out and see how things > > >react. > > > > > > > > :-( > > > > If there had been a small section in the doc explaining this - just the > > way you did, my life might have been a little bit easier. > > > > Ok, I do follow the reasoning - I was thinking more along the lines of > > Unix filesystem permissions - write on the directory (topic) lets you > > create a file (story), write on an existing story allows you to edit it, > > even thought there is no permission to write on the directory (do don't > > try to delete/replace!). > > > > Its different, and gives a different sort of flexibility - which I am ok > > with. > > > > Thanks for the explanation. > > > > Philip > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > geeklog-users mailing list > > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > > From sbeashwar at gmail.com Mon Jul 19 01:53:52 2004 From: sbeashwar at gmail.com (eashwar) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:23:52 +0530 Subject: [geeklog-users] User Deletion side effect Message-ID: <de9cbc19040718225330292173@mail.gmail.com> Hi All, I recently had problems for a user, in the sence the right side block wouldn't appear for this user (no matter what browser is used). So, I deleted this user and added him back, this fixed his problem. But, all those posts/replies that he made earlier now show up as "anonymous" user, is there a way I can fix this ? thanks, Vaithee -- ~ythee~ http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/www/vathswrn From Martin at alsoalsoalso.de Mon Jul 19 05:21:00 2004 From: Martin at alsoalsoalso.de (Tinus) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:21:00 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] New user help In-Reply-To: <00d601c46c91$5e3cb0f0$61e18818@TRIANGLEWEB> Message-ID: <20040719092104.RTW16171.amsfep16-int.chello.nl@adolfje> This editor has a preview function, where youcan see how your code works yes. Excellent if you are not sure if your code works properly.. Greetz ________________________________ Martin -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz Sent: zondag 18 juli 2004 8:35 To: geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help Thanks. Btw, does this offer a testing environment as well? Meaning some editors will let one execute the code, actually they'd be more than editors to be exact. But some html IDEs do offer that feature to allow one to see the code execution during development. Thanks, Bruce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tinus" <Martin at alsoalsoalso.de> To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 11:47 AM Subject: RE: [geeklog-users] New user help > Hi Bruce, > > I dont know very much about GL or php programming. But I can help you with > the software for editing your config.php file. > > I am using a program named HTML-kit. This is anhtml-editor that also loads > your site via FTP so you can see all your files and edit and update them as > you go. It is also for php editing and you can download a plugin for help > files on php editing. > > http://www.chami.com/html-kit/ > > This is where you can read about the software and in "Downloads" download it > ;) > > Hope I could help you out a little... > > Greetingz > > ________________________________ > > Martin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of > bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz > Sent: zaterdag 17 juli 2004 16:40 > To: geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help > > Ok, now it's my turn to get irritated, > Note here a comment that seems to contradict what was said: > >> or open a new window with a target="_blank" > >> html tag. > > > >This isn't currently supported. Add this as a feature request on > >http://project.geeklog.net > > And expect it to be rejected ;-) > > <http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=3&showtopic=11074> > Expect it to be rejected!!! I thought you were just saying that by reading > the contents of the config.php file I'd learn just how to do this. Not that > I'd come to learn that it can't be done. > > Secondly, going through my site I don't see a link to view/read my > config.php file. If I'm to ftp to the site and download that config.php > file just say so, with a path to where it is located. I know that one > cannot see php code in a browser since it is executed on the server and thus > only html is returned. So, why not say the config.php file that you want to > read is located in this directory and you can download it and read it, study > it whatever? > Customers that wanted to use a system like this and that I thought could on > their own often have never programmed in php or know what it is exactly. > That is no problem though, I'll set it up so that they can do what they > need. > Please just clarify for me something very simple. Is there a link on my > site that will take me to a view of the config.php file that I can view/read > and then maybe even modify and update. > If not, I will be glad to download the correct file using ftp. I just need > to know where in my installation it resides. That's all I ask. Say, go > here-> download, read, modify and then if I modify or change then upload it > back. That will get me going and then I'll be able to read more in depth. > It did appear that one could not add any content one chooses and > target it to a specific block that one places anywhere one chooses on the > screen. I'd be thrilled to learn that I'm mistaken and that I can pull in > content from elsewhere, an image, a web page or content from a page and make > it appear in say upper right block for example. > Thank you for your understanding, support, work and patience, > Bruce Whealton > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tony Bibbs" <tony at tonybibbs.com> > To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 11:34 AM > Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] New user help > > > > Bruce, man, you are killing me. Here is most likley my last friendly > > response. Read below > > > > bruce at trianglewebhosting.biz wrote: > > > > >When you say look at the config.php file, does that mean I can download > it > > >and edit it and then upload it to my installation? > > > > > > > > Config.php is the Geeklog configuration file. It is the primary place > > for tweaking the meriad of configuration options in Geeklog. When I say > > 'look' at it I mean, read the file. There are a lot of excellent > > comments in there that explain what each option is. You should read > > then *entire* file before asking further questions so as not to irritate > > anyone. > > > > >The ability to include content into my site from elsewhere such as have a > > >weblog or rss feed or anything included into a block, which would be like > > >targeting it to a frame on the same page would be desirable. > > > > > Already suppoted, please read the manual http://www.geeklog.net/docs and > > the in-progress wiki documentation at > > http://wiki.geeklog.net/wiki/index.php. > > > > >Perhaps I'll > > >have to use a couple CMS that are linked together to get all the features > > >needed. XOOPS let one include the content in a block and you could write > a > > >custom block that has your own html/php code in it. > > > > > This is the notion of a PHP block in Geeklog. Again, it is supported. > > Again, it can be found in one of the documentation repositories above. > > > > >Unfortunately it is > > >rather ugly for a CMS and doing what one wants is less than easy to get > done > > >even if it is supported. Their forum for help is setup poorly as one > cannot > > >even send emails to one's main email account. I need that feature to > have > > >someone get an email that says their post has been responded to and to go > to > > >the site to read it. > > > > > > > > The Geeklog forum plugin already does this. If you can't read the > > manual for that or figure it out own your own please see the author, > > Blaine, at http://www.portalparts.com > > > > >The fact that I can have stories/blogs within Geeklog that are available > > >even to someone that I don't have to get to register is a good feature. > I'd > > >like to have people register for my site but sometimes there is a need to > > >have a direct link to the publication or story, etc. that does not say > > >permission denied. > > > > > > > > Again, read config.php > > > > >I've been looking at collaborating with a site at: myTown.ca that is > based > > >on a proprietary CMS. The goal is to find ways to allow any CMS to > > >collaborate with any other CMS/blog or any web site, that is to have a > > >"community" that is encapsulated. > > > > > >Tikiwiki seems able to do that but it is less than intuitive. One > benefit > > >of that is that one can in addition to including content from elsewhere > in > > >the site, you can setup individual user views of the site, individually > > >customized content. So, perhaps I can embed my Geeklog site into > something > > >that will be a portal if you will, that pulls in content from elsewhere > and > > >keeps you there... a replacement for my.yahoo.com for some friends of > mine. > > > > > > > > Before you even begin thinking about customizing Geeklog you need to > > learn the basics. Until you have successfully figured out the above > > tasks you will not be ready to tackle an integration effort like this. > > Also, given your apparent dislike of reading reference material, even if > > you complete the above I doubt you have the patience to actually get > > this done. > > > > Sorry, I thought maybe I could have replied nicely one more time but I > > failed miserably. > > > > --Tony > > _______________________________________________ > > geeklog-users mailing list > > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > _______________________________________________ geeklog-users mailing list geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users From vfuria at gmail.com Mon Jul 19 09:26:43 2004 From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 09:26:43 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] User Deletion side effect In-Reply-To: <de9cbc19040718225330292173@mail.gmail.com> References: <de9cbc19040718225330292173@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <8319e2d604071906267d79be57@mail.gmail.com> No, there is no way to restore those associations. The entire point of deleting a user is to remove all references of them from the site. Once done this operation can not be undone as the database tables have been updated. -Vinny On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:23:52 +0530, eashwar <sbeashwar at gmail.com> wrote: > Hi All, > I recently had problems for a user, in the sence the right > side block wouldn't appear for this user (no matter what browser is > used). So, I deleted this user and added him back, this fixed his > problem. But, all those posts/replies that he made earlier now show up > as "anonymous" user, is there a way I can fix this ? > > thanks, > Vaithee > -- > ~ythee~ > http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/www/vathswrn > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > From tony at tonybibbs.com Mon Jul 19 12:02:11 2004 From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:02:11 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-users] User Deletion side effect In-Reply-To: <8319e2d604071906267d79be57@mail.gmail.com> References: <de9cbc19040718225330292173@mail.gmail.com> <8319e2d604071906267d79be57@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <40FBF083.3020300@tonybibbs.com> You should have, instead, first created the new account and then updated all his stuff to use the new userid and then deleted the bad account. Vinny's right, once done, it can't be undone. --Tony Vincent Furia wrote: >No, there is no way to restore those associations. The entire point >of deleting a user is to remove all references of them from the site. >Once done this operation can not be undone as the database tables have >been updated. > >-Vinny > >On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:23:52 +0530, eashwar <sbeashwar at gmail.com> wrote: > > >>Hi All, >> I recently had problems for a user, in the sence the right >>side block wouldn't appear for this user (no matter what browser is >>used). So, I deleted this user and added him back, this fixed his >>problem. But, all those posts/replies that he made earlier now show up >>as "anonymous" user, is there a way I can fix this ? >> >>thanks, >>Vaithee >>-- >>~ythee~ >>http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/www/vathswrn >>_______________________________________________ >>geeklog-users mailing list >>geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users >> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >geeklog-users mailing list >geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > From info at momosite.com Mon Jul 19 11:50:46 2004 From: info at momosite.com (Jaime Ortega) Date: Mon, 19 Jul 2004 17:50:46 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] User Deletion side effect In-Reply-To: <8319e2d604071906267d79be57@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <BD21BA76.A830%info@momosite.com> Well, if there are not too much entries from that user, I think it can be easily done by hand, with phpMyAdmin or similar. Jaime > No, there is no way to restore those associations. The entire point > of deleting a user is to remove all references of them from the site. > Once done this operation can not be undone as the database tables have > been updated. > > -Vinny > > On Mon, 19 Jul 2004 11:23:52 +0530, eashwar <sbeashwar at gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi All, >> I recently had problems for a user, in the sence the right >> side block wouldn't appear for this user (no matter what browser is >> used). So, I deleted this user and added him back, this fixed his >> problem. But, all those posts/replies that he made earlier now show up >> as "anonymous" user, is there a way I can fix this ? >> >> thanks, >> Vaithee >> -- >> ~ythee~ >> http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/www/vathswrn >> _______________________________________________ >> geeklog-users mailing list >> geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net >> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users >> > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > From Martin at alsoalsoalso.de Tue Jul 20 00:28:27 2004 From: Martin at alsoalsoalso.de (Tinus) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 06:28:27 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] Strange things happening... Message-ID: <20040720042832.QYCF17169.amsfep15-int.chello.nl@adolfje> Hey all.. Another question from me. I keep on nagging untill you all are sick of me :-) I installed my geeklog on a new host .. Everything seemed to work .. BUT The phplinks don't count the hits I made during testing.. Also the visitor stats (from stats-plugin) show no hits on new host and I know I have had a lot.. Also my poll's keep closing after 1 day or so .. why is that? Maybe has something to do with other 2 problems mentioned above? Does anyone have an idea what this could be? Please help me! Thanx (again) _____ Martin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://pairlist8.pair.net/pipermail/geeklog-users/attachments/20040720/dcce70d6/attachment.html> From Martin at alsoalsoalso.de Tue Jul 20 00:52:05 2004 From: Martin at alsoalsoalso.de (Tinus) Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 06:52:05 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] Help part 2 Message-ID: <20040720045214.RFKV29501.amsfep18-int.chello.nl@adolfje> Pff... Now I enabled my stats plugin again by copying the gl_st_ vars from the Sql db. Now I get Warning: gethostbyaddr(): Address is not a valid IPv4 or IPv6 address in /my/geeklog/public_html/safe/plugins/stats/functions.inc on line 304 Now what? I'm getting totally confused here..! _____ Martin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://pairlist8.pair.net/pipermail/geeklog-users/attachments/20040720/65aa689b/attachment.html> From sbeashwar at gmail.com Wed Jul 21 03:16:41 2004 From: sbeashwar at gmail.com (eashwar) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 12:46:41 +0530 Subject: [geeklog-users] Who is Online ! Message-ID: <de9cbc1904072100161258376b@mail.gmail.com> I am having a strange problem with the Who is Online block, for a some select users the "Who is Online" block always showed the use as "Guest User" when the user is logged in. What could be wrong? I cannot remove this user and add for there are lot of content attched to the user. Any Pointers? -- ~ythee~ http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/www/vathswrn From tony at tonybibbs.com Wed Jul 21 09:26:37 2004 From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 08:26:37 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-users] Who is Online ! In-Reply-To: <de9cbc1904072100161258376b@mail.gmail.com> References: <de9cbc1904072100161258376b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <40FE6F0D.2070006@tonybibbs.com> Could it be a browser cache issue? One thing you could do is make sure there is an entry for the user in the session table. If there is then I have to think it is cache related. If there isn't then let us know. --Tony eashwar wrote: >I am having a strange problem with the Who is Online block, for a some >select users the "Who is Online" block always showed the use as "Guest >User" when the user is logged in. What could be wrong? I cannot remove >this user and add for there are lot of content attched to the user. >Any Pointers? > > > From Martin at alsoalsoalso.de Wed Jul 21 11:13:04 2004 From: Martin at alsoalsoalso.de (Tinus) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:13:04 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] Who is Online ! In-Reply-To: <40FE6F0D.2070006@tonybibbs.com> Message-ID: <20040721151312.FTP1232.amsfep19-int.chello.nl@adolfje> Hey guys .. I am back. I saw in the forums that some people have had the same problem as I do .. The gethostadr(bla) is not a IP4 or IP6 type of error .. Can someone point me out where I should start searching.. What could cause this ? It's like Geeklog can't resolve MY ip and host.. What's wrong here.. I am using stats 2.0 on GL 1.3.9sr Please help .. I in need of assistance Thx ________________________________ Martin -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Tony Bibbs Sent: woensdag 21 juli 2004 15:27 To: geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] Who is Online ! Could it be a browser cache issue? One thing you could do is make sure there is an entry for the user in the session table. If there is then I have to think it is cache related. If there isn't then let us know. --Tony eashwar wrote: >I am having a strange problem with the Who is Online block, for a some >select users the "Who is Online" block always showed the use as "Guest >User" when the user is logged in. What could be wrong? I cannot remove >this user and add for there are lot of content attched to the user. >Any Pointers? > > > _______________________________________________ geeklog-users mailing list geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users From tomw at pigstye.net Wed Jul 21 12:26:48 2004 From: tomw at pigstye.net (Tom Willett) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 16:26:48 +0000 Subject: [geeklog-users] Who is Online ! In-Reply-To: <20040721151312.FTP1232.amsfep19-int.chello.nl@adolfje> References: <40FE6F0D.2070006@tonybibbs.com> <20040721151312.FTP1232.amsfep19-int.chello.nl@adolfje> Message-ID: <20040721162602.M73486@pigstye.net> Just put a @ in front of the gethostadr call and it will turn off error reporting thus: @gethostadr(bla) -- Tom Willett tomw at pigstye.net ---------- Original Message ----------- From: "Tinus" <Martin at alsoalsoalso.de> To: <geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net> Sent: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 17:13:04 +0200 Subject: RE: [geeklog-users] Who is Online ! > Hey guys .. > I am back. > > I saw in the forums that some people have had the same problem as I do .. > The gethostadr(bla) is not a IP4 or IP6 type of error .. > > Can someone point me out where I should start searching.. What could cause > this ? > It's like Geeklog can't resolve MY ip and host.. > > What's wrong here.. I am using stats 2.0 on GL 1.3.9sr > > Please help .. > I in need of assistance > > Thx > > ________________________________ > > Martin > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-users-admin at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Tony Bibbs > Sent: woensdag 21 juli 2004 15:27 > To: geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > Subject: Re: [geeklog-users] Who is Online ! > > Could it be a browser cache issue? > > One thing you could do is make sure there is an entry for the user in > the session table. If there is then I have to think it is cache > related. If there isn't then let us know. > > --Tony > > eashwar wrote: > > >I am having a strange problem with the Who is Online block, for a some > >select users the "Who is Online" block always showed the use as "Guest > >User" when the user is logged in. What could be wrong? I cannot remove > >this user and add for there are lot of content attched to the user. > >Any Pointers? > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users ------- End of Original Message ------- From dirk at haun-online.de Wed Jul 21 15:48:04 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:48:04 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] Who is Online ! In-Reply-To: <de9cbc1904072100161258376b@mail.gmail.com> References: <de9cbc1904072100161258376b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20040721204804.2759@smtp.haun-online.de> >I am having a strange problem with the Who is Online block, for a some >select users the "Who is Online" block always showed the use as "Guest >User" when the user is logged in. What could be wrong? Nothing's wrong - this is actually a feature. User Functions > Preferences > Privacy Options > Show Online Status bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://www.tinyweb.de/ From sbeashwar at gmail.com Thu Jul 22 01:47:50 2004 From: sbeashwar at gmail.com (eashwar) Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 11:17:50 +0530 Subject: [geeklog-users] Who is Online ! In-Reply-To: <20040721204804.2759@smtp.haun-online.de> References: <de9cbc1904072100161258376b@mail.gmail.com> <20040721204804.2759@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <de9cbc190407212247b265c78@mail.gmail.com> u bet ! it was indeed, I did look into the that setting but read it as "shows up the who's online block" but it is actually "shows up in the who's online block" :-) On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 21:48:04 +0200, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote: > >I am having a strange problem with the Who is Online block, for a some > >select users the "Who is Online" block always showed the use as "Guest > >User" when the user is logged in. What could be wrong? > > Nothing's wrong - this is actually a feature. > > User Functions > Preferences > Privacy Options > Show Online Status > > bye, Dirk > > > -- > http://www.haun-online.de/ > http://www.tinyweb.de/ > > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > -- ~ythee~ http://netfiles.uiuc.edu/www/vathswrn From barton at monsterfreecity.com Fri Jul 23 13:35:24 2004 From: barton at monsterfreecity.com (Barton Chew) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:35:24 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] Daily Digest errors Message-ID: <AE1B3832-DCCE-11D8-8701-000A95B113AC@monsterfreecity.com> hello, i ran the emailgeeklogstories script manually to test the script. it seemed to send the digest without a problem. but the following warnings were sent to the command line. and now, the admin user has stopped receiving notification as indicated in: $_CONF['notification'] = array ('story', 'link', 'event', 'user'); i am able to send email via geeklog, so mail is working. i'm running geeklog 1.3.9sr1 PHP Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /Library/WebServer/chew_geeklog-1.3.9sr1/emailgeeklogstories:3) in /Library/WebServer/chew_geeklog-1.3.9sr1/system/lib-sessions.php on line 186 PHP Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /Library/WebServer/chew_geeklog-1.3.9sr1/emailgeeklogstories:3) in /Library/WebServer/chew_geeklog-1.3.9sr1/system/lib-sessions.php on line 198 thanks, barton From dirk at haun-online.de Fri Jul 23 13:54:43 2004 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 19:54:43 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-users] Daily Digest errors In-Reply-To: <AE1B3832-DCCE-11D8-8701-000A95B113AC@monsterfreecity.com> References: <AE1B3832-DCCE-11D8-8701-000A95B113AC@monsterfreecity.com> Message-ID: <20040723185443.22678@smtp.haun-online.de> Barton, >PHP Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent You have a whitespace problem. Please see the FAQ: http://www.geeklog.net/faqman/index.php?op=view&t=38 bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://www.tinyweb.de/ From barton at monsterfreecity.com Fri Jul 23 14:21:42 2004 From: barton at monsterfreecity.com (Barton Chew) Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2004 14:21:42 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-users] Daily Digest errors In-Reply-To: <20040723185443.22678@smtp.haun-online.de> References: <AE1B3832-DCCE-11D8-8701-000A95B113AC@monsterfreecity.com> <20040723185443.22678@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <259222A6-DCD5-11D8-8701-000A95B113AC@monsterfreecity.com> sorry, i should have checked there first. thanks, barton On Jul 23, 2004, at 1:54 PM, Dirk Haun wrote: > Barton, > >> PHP Warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent > > You have a whitespace problem. Please see the FAQ: > http://www.geeklog.net/faqman/index.php?op=view&t=38 > > bye, Dirk > > > -- > http://www.haun-online.de/ > http://www.tinyweb.de/ > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users > > From eslittles at ucdavis.edu Sat Jul 24 13:23:21 2004 From: eslittles at ucdavis.edu (Everett Littles) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 10:23:21 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-users] SQL error on index.php Message-ID: <295BF1FC-DD96-11D8-9244-000A956E3DD4@ucdavis.edu> I just finished installing Geelklog 1.3.9 on my machine. It is OS 10.3 with PHP 4.3.6 and MySQL 4.0.2 The whole process was flawless until I tried to access my main page. I got the following error: An SQL error has occured. Please see error.log for details. When I check my error.log it reads as follows: Sat Jul 24 10:18:58 2004 - 1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use$ CT DISTINCT count(*) AS dups, type, question, gl_stories.title, gl_stories.sid, qid, max(gl_comments.date) as lastdate FROM gl_comments LEFT JOIN gl_stories ON (($ tid IN ('General','GeekLog'))) LEFT JOIN gl_pollquestions ON ((qid = gl_comments.sid) A ND (gl_pollquestions.perm_anon >= 2)) WHERE (gl_comments.date >= (DATE_SUB(NOW(), INTERVAL 172800 SECOND))) AND ((((gl_stories.perm_anon IS NOT NULL))) OR (((gl_p$ I tried dumping my whole db and starting over and got the same results. Any clues? Thanks. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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To actually resolve the problem, you'll have to upgrade MySQL. bye, Dirk -- http://www.haun-online.de/ http://www.macosx-faq.de/ From eslittles at ucdavis.edu Sat Jul 24 15:26:35 2004 From: eslittles at ucdavis.edu (Everett Littles) Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2004 12:26:35 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-users] SQL error on index.php In-Reply-To: <20040724190430.9811@smtp.haun-online.de> References: <295BF1FC-DD96-11D8-9244-000A956E3DD4@ucdavis.edu> <20040724190430.9811@smtp.haun-online.de> Message-ID: <6053DAD6-DDA7-11D8-9244-000A956E3DD4@ucdavis.edu> Dirk, Thanks for the workaround. It worked great. I kept searching the forums and obviously missed this thread. Thanks again. On Jul 24, 2004, at 11:04 AM, Dirk Haun wrote: >> I just finished installing Geelklog 1.3.9 on my machine. >> It is OS 10.3 with PHP 4.3.6 and MySQL 4.0.2 > [...] >> Sat Jul 24 10:18:58 2004 - 1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax. >> Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the >> right syntax to use$ >> CT DISTINCT count(*) AS dups, type, question, gl_stories.title, >> gl_stories.sid, qid, max(gl_comments.date) as lastdate FROM >> gl_comments >> LEFT JOIN gl_stories ON (($ > > This looks like the same issue that has already been discussed in > several > forum threads, e.g. this one: > http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?forum=1&showtopic=33026 > > The workaround is to set > > $_CONF['hidenewcomments'] = 1; > > in config.php. To actually resolve the problem, you'll have to upgrade > MySQL. > > bye, Dirk > > > -- > http://www.haun-online.de/ > http://www.macosx-faq.de/ > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-users mailing list > geeklog-users at lists.geeklog.net > http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-users >