From dirk at haun-online.de  Sat Feb  4 08:58:23 2012
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sat, 4 Feb 2012 14:58:23 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2012 is happening
Message-ID: <545C4009-339F-4EE0-85B7-BD59878F80CC@haun-online.de>

So, official word from Carol herself (just talked to her here at FOSDEM): Google Summer of Code 2012 will be happening. More info in a session later today.

Just so we can prepare well in advance :)

bye, Dirk


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From cordiste at free.fr  Sun Feb  5 08:20:15 2012
From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 14:20:15 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2012 is happening
In-Reply-To: <545C4009-339F-4EE0-85B7-BD59878F80CC@haun-online.de>
References: <545C4009-339F-4EE0-85B7-BD59878F80CC@haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <CACfYZdcGcJ1EbZ4S-8QBDYu=7bU+=LNBWgjqSbY5O5msPsWoGw@mail.gmail.com>

As last year, the first question for me is: With Google Summer of
Code, can we spent a slot to finish old  features ( plugin repository,
calendar plugin, Social Networking Support (SocNet), Cross Site
Alerting and Publication API, Mailman Plugin) or do we need to work on
new ones ?

and what about SoC category plugin
http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_category_plugin
is this feature will be available for geeklog 1.9 with the big work of Tom?

Ben

2012/2/4 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>:
> So, official word from Carol herself (just talked to her here at FOSDEM): Google Summer of Code 2012 will be happening. More info in a session later today.
>
> Just so we can prepare well in advance :)
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Sun Feb  5 09:35:46 2012
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 09:35:46 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2012 is happening
In-Reply-To: <CACfYZdcGcJ1EbZ4S-8QBDYu=7bU+=LNBWgjqSbY5O5msPsWoGw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <545C4009-339F-4EE0-85B7-BD59878F80CC@haun-online.de>
	<CACfYZdcGcJ1EbZ4S-8QBDYu=7bU+=LNBWgjqSbY5O5msPsWoGw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <010001cce413$72a9e470$57fdad50$@cogeco.net>

>> the first question for me is: With Google Summer of Code, can we spent a
slot to finish old  features

That would be nice but I believe the project have to be started from
scratch. (I would like to see the plugin repository and calendar plugin
finished at some point)

If we do decide to go for GSOC this year and get accepted I hope Core
notification gets selected:

http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_core_notification_support

>> and what about SoC category plugin ... is this feature will be available
for geeklog 1.9 with the big work of Tom?

Parts of this will be available in Geeklog 1.9.0. I went a bit of a
different route with the idea.  Instead of new categories I decided to
extend the functionality of topics. A topic can now have a parent topic.
When viewing a topic it can inherit stories and blocks from child topics (if
it is setup to do so). I also added support for multiple topic support for
Articles, Blocks and Staticpages. Breadcrumbs are in there as well. I am in
the midst of writing a Wiki article on this which will also tell plugin
authors how to use the new topic assignment control if they wish to add some
topic support (very rough at this point).

http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Topic_Support#Introduction

There are a number of things that did not make it in which we could
repackage together for a GSOC project. This would include things like:

Core Changes 
- Add new plugin API to integrate extra fields from one or more plugins into
edit forms. This should allow for displaying, validation and saving the
information. Some functionality will also be required to tell the plugin
what plugins it should not integrate into
- Add new plugin API to integrate extra fields from one or more plugins into
submission forms
- Add this functionality to the admin editors and submission forms of
Articles, Category plugin, Static Pages plugin, Polls plugin, Links Plugin
and Calendar plugin

- What's related Block based on topic relationships
- Tag Cloud based on topics
- Dropdown Menu based on topic relationships
- Consider allowing plugins to display items amongst the articles when a
topic is displayed
- Updated Admin interface for Topics
- etc...

Tom




-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of cordiste
Sent: February-05-12 8:20 AM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2012 is happening

As last year, the first question for me is: With Google Summer of Code, can
we spent a slot to finish old  features ( plugin repository, calendar
plugin, Social Networking Support (SocNet), Cross Site Alerting and
Publication API, Mailman Plugin) or do we need to work on new ones ?

and what about SoC category plugin
http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_category_plugin
is this feature will be available for geeklog 1.9 with the big work of Tom?

Ben

2012/2/4 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>:
> So, official word from Carol herself (just talked to her here at FOSDEM):
Google Summer of Code 2012 will be happening. More info in a session later
today.
>
> Just so we can prepare well in advance :)
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.themobilepresenter.com/
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Sun Feb  5 10:49:29 2012
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 08:49:29 -0700
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2012 is happening
In-Reply-To: <010001cce413$72a9e470$57fdad50$@cogeco.net>
References: <545C4009-339F-4EE0-85B7-BD59878F80CC@haun-online.de>
	<CACfYZdcGcJ1EbZ4S-8QBDYu=7bU+=LNBWgjqSbY5O5msPsWoGw@mail.gmail.com>
	<010001cce413$72a9e470$57fdad50$@cogeco.net>
Message-ID: <CAGSZSdQ_T9FvVZ9wkxACwgyj1NF=4_f7FDMo+h0Tka6H9RadUQ@mail.gmail.com>

Here's my "wishlist" for GSoC.

   1. Core notification support
   2. Replace current session handling with PHP Sessions
   3. Template Engine Replacement

I suppose I should add/update those in the wiki. Hopefully I'll have some
time to do so shortly.

-Vinny
On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 07:35, Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net> wrote:

> >> the first question for me is: With Google Summer of Code, can we spent a
> slot to finish old  features
>
> That would be nice but I believe the project have to be started from
> scratch. (I would like to see the plugin repository and calendar plugin
> finished at some point)
>
> If we do decide to go for GSOC this year and get accepted I hope Core
> notification gets selected:
>
> http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_core_notification_support
>
> >> and what about SoC category plugin ... is this feature will be available
> for geeklog 1.9 with the big work of Tom?
>
> Parts of this will be available in Geeklog 1.9.0. I went a bit of a
> different route with the idea.  Instead of new categories I decided to
> extend the functionality of topics. A topic can now have a parent topic.
> When viewing a topic it can inherit stories and blocks from child topics
> (if
> it is setup to do so). I also added support for multiple topic support for
> Articles, Blocks and Staticpages. Breadcrumbs are in there as well. I am in
> the midst of writing a Wiki article on this which will also tell plugin
> authors how to use the new topic assignment control if they wish to add
> some
> topic support (very rough at this point).
>
> http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Topic_Support#Introduction
>
> There are a number of things that did not make it in which we could
> repackage together for a GSOC project. This would include things like:
>
> Core Changes
> - Add new plugin API to integrate extra fields from one or more plugins
> into
> edit forms. This should allow for displaying, validation and saving the
> information. Some functionality will also be required to tell the plugin
> what plugins it should not integrate into
> - Add new plugin API to integrate extra fields from one or more plugins
> into
> submission forms
> - Add this functionality to the admin editors and submission forms of
> Articles, Category plugin, Static Pages plugin, Polls plugin, Links Plugin
> and Calendar plugin
>
> - What's related Block based on topic relationships
> - Tag Cloud based on topics
> - Dropdown Menu based on topic relationships
> - Consider allowing plugins to display items amongst the articles when a
> topic is displayed
> - Updated Admin interface for Topics
> - etc...
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
> [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of cordiste
> Sent: February-05-12 8:20 AM
> To: Geeklog Development
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2012 is happening
>
> As last year, the first question for me is: With Google Summer of Code, can
> we spent a slot to finish old  features ( plugin repository, calendar
> plugin, Social Networking Support (SocNet), Cross Site Alerting and
> Publication API, Mailman Plugin) or do we need to work on new ones ?
>
> and what about SoC category plugin
> http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_category_plugin
> is this feature will be available for geeklog 1.9 with the big work of Tom?
>
> Ben
>
> 2012/2/4 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>:
> > So, official word from Carol herself (just talked to her here at FOSDEM):
> Google Summer of Code 2012 will be happening. More info in a session later
> today.
> >
> > Just so we can prepare well in advance :)
> >
> > bye, Dirk
> >
> >
> > --
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sun Feb  5 14:41:22 2012
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2012 20:41:22 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2012 is happening
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	<CACfYZdcGcJ1EbZ4S-8QBDYu=7bU+=LNBWgjqSbY5O5msPsWoGw@mail.gmail.com>
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Tom wrote: 

> That would be nice but I believe the project have to be started from
> scratch. (I would like to see the plugin repository and calendar plugin
> finished at some point)

Not from scratch, but new code must be produced. I guess it depends on how we phrase it / define what needs to be done. Sort of hard to do for something that's almost finished, though. And not too much fun for the student, having to finish somebody else's code ...

bye, Dirk

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From dirk at haun-online.de  Tue Feb  7 04:17:59 2012
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 10:17:59 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Random notes and thoughts from FOSDEM
Message-ID: <20120207101759.Horde.bCqfMElCcOxPMOxHsfXQajA@webmail.df.eu>

Seeing that I have a busy second half of the week ahead, I thought I'd  
rather post a random list of thoughts than wait until later, when I've  
forgotten most of it already ...

1) Open Advice, http://open-advice.org/
If you haven't heard about it yet: Go there, download it, start  
reading. Lydia Pintscher (of KDE) put together a collection of short  
articles from all sorts of people involved in open source. The  
subtitle "What we wish we had known when we started" about sums it up.  
Useful insights and advice, not only in the lights of the upcoming  
GSoC but for open source contribution in general.

2) I had the pleasure of meeting Rouslan (Hi!). We only had time for a  
short chat since I had to run and catch my train, but it's always nice  
to meet the people behind the avatar (with or without wigs ;-) A few  
things I remember:
- Homepage redesign, especially a new theme. We really need to do  
this. We need a nice theme and we need to unclutter the homepage. We  
should probably throw some of our money towards a new theme (any ideas  
how to best approach this? and any takers for someone taking care of  
that process?)
- Unused patches and GSoC projects. We have so many patches and  
almost-finished GSoC projects sitting around and rotting, it's really  
embarrassing. To make it easier for people to contribute, Rouslan  
suggested to use Bitbucket (a service pretty much like GitHub, but  
using Mercurial instead of Git). Okay, let's try this. I've cloned the  
Geeklog repository here:

   https://bitbucket.org/geeklog/

My own account is here: https://bitbucket.org/dhaun/

I'll try and keep our own and the Bitbucket repositories in sync  
(maybe there's a way to automate this - have to check). If you have a  
patch that you want to contribute, please feel free to try out this  
route and send a pull request.

Hmm, what else? I'm sure I've forgotten something. Rouslan?

3) Bounties ... I've attended a few sessions about communities,  
community involvement, and the like. In one session (a round table  
discussion), someone asked about experiences with bounties. Turns out  
that none of the projects represented (all Linux distros in that case)  
are using bounties. And I think it's safe to say that our own  
experiments with bounties have failed (due to lack of rules for one  
thing, but there were also other factors). So I guess we need other  
ways to encourage people to contribute. Cleaning up our backlog (see  
above) would be a start.

Thoughts?

4) In one session, the concept of "ambassadors" for a project was  
discussed. I kind of like the idea: We should have more presence at  
open source events, for example. Since I can't be anywhere, members of  
the community could represent Geeklog elsewhere. For example, I know  
that Ivy gave presentations about Geeklog in Japan. We should embrace  
such volunteering and support it where possible. Note: These don't  
need to be developers. In fact, it may even be better if they aren't ;-)

Of course, this would need rules (as has also been stressed in that  
session). For example, an ambassador (or whatever we want to call it)  
should lose his or her status if they are inactive for too long.

Fedora has some information about their ambassador program on their wiki:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors_FAQ

Thoughts, opinions on that idea?

bye, Dirk




From rouslan at placella.com  Tue Feb  7 05:31:35 2012
From: rouslan at placella.com (Rouslan Placella)
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 2012 10:31:35 +0000
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Random notes and thoughts from FOSDEM
In-Reply-To: <20120207101759.Horde.bCqfMElCcOxPMOxHsfXQajA@webmail.df.eu>
References: <20120207101759.Horde.bCqfMElCcOxPMOxHsfXQajA@webmail.df.eu>
Message-ID: <4F30FD87.6070508@placella.com>

On 07/02/12 09:17, Dirk Haun wrote:
> Seeing that I have a busy second half of the week ahead, I thought I'd
> rather post a random list of thoughts than wait until later, when I've
> forgotten most of it already ...
>
> 1) Open Advice, http://open-advice.org/
> If you haven't heard about it yet: Go there, download it, start reading.
> Lydia Pintscher (of KDE) put together a collection of short articles
> from all sorts of people involved in open source. The subtitle "What we
> wish we had known when we started" about sums it up. Useful insights and
> advice, not only in the lights of the upcoming GSoC but for open source
> contribution in general.
>
> 2) I had the pleasure of meeting Rouslan (Hi!). We only had time for a
> short chat since I had to run and catch my train, but it's always nice
> to meet the people behind the avatar (with or without wigs ;-) A few
> things I remember:
> - Homepage redesign, especially a new theme. We really need to do this.
> We need a nice theme and we need to unclutter the homepage. We should
> probably throw some of our money towards a new theme (any ideas how to
> best approach this? and any takers for someone taking care of that
> process?)
> - Unused patches and GSoC projects. We have so many patches and
> almost-finished GSoC projects sitting around and rotting, it's really
> embarrassing. To make it easier for people to contribute, Rouslan
> suggested to use Bitbucket (a service pretty much like GitHub, but using
> Mercurial instead of Git). Okay, let's try this. I've cloned the Geeklog
> repository here:
>
> https://bitbucket.org/geeklog/
>
> My own account is here: https://bitbucket.org/dhaun/
>
> I'll try and keep our own and the Bitbucket repositories in sync (maybe
> there's a way to automate this - have to check). If you have a patch
> that you want to contribute, please feel free to try out this route and
> send a pull request.
>
> Hmm, what else? I'm sure I've forgotten something. Rouslan?

I think that I mentioned something about the slogan of "the secure CMS", 
being quite a bit to live up to, but I think that's about it.

> 3) Bounties ... I've attended a few sessions about communities,
> community involvement, and the like. In one session (a round table
> discussion), someone asked about experiences with bounties. Turns out
> that none of the projects represented (all Linux distros in that case)
> are using bounties. And I think it's safe to say that our own
> experiments with bounties have failed (due to lack of rules for one
> thing, but there were also other factors). So I guess we need other ways
> to encourage people to contribute. Cleaning up our backlog (see above)
> would be a start.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> 4) In one session, the concept of "ambassadors" for a project was
> discussed. I kind of like the idea: We should have more presence at open
> source events, for example. Since I can't be anywhere, members of the
> community could represent Geeklog elsewhere. For example, I know that
> Ivy gave presentations about Geeklog in Japan. We should embrace such
> volunteering and support it where possible. Note: These don't need to be
> developers. In fact, it may even be better if they aren't ;-)
>
> Of course, this would need rules (as has also been stressed in that
> session). For example, an ambassador (or whatever we want to call it)
> should lose his or her status if they are inactive for too long.
>
> Fedora has some information about their ambassador program on their wiki:
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors_FAQ
>
> Thoughts, opinions on that idea?
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel



From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Tue Feb  7 09:50:32 2012
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2012 09:50:32 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Random notes and thoughts from FOSDEM
In-Reply-To: <20120207101759.Horde.bCqfMElCcOxPMOxHsfXQajA@webmail.df.eu>
References: <20120207101759.Horde.bCqfMElCcOxPMOxHsfXQajA@webmail.df.eu>
Message-ID: <01f601cce5a7$d7c17220$87445660$@cogeco.net>

Hey Dirk,

Thanks for representing us at FOSDEM.

>> 1) Open Advice, http://open-advice.org/

I will read up on Open Advice.

>> 2) Homepage redesign, especially a new theme.

I did start something on the wiki on ideas for the redesign a while ago. 

http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Geeklog.net_Redesign

Theming isn't my strongest asset but I am willing to help with redesigning
the layout of the data and writing new information on Geeklog.net. Geeklog
1.9.0 should also help with this since it will allow us to better catalogue
our posts.

>> - Unused patches and GSoC projects. We have so many patches and
almost-finished GSoC projects sitting around and rotting

I agree. We should identify the patches and projects which are still
relevant and can be incorporated with relative ease.

>> To make it easier for people to contribute, Rouslan suggested to use
Bitbucket

I am a bit out of the loop on Bitbucket. So instead of patches we would want
contributors to fork the repository do their work and if we approve then
merge it back in. Is that how other open source projects are going?

>>3) Bounties ...

Sounds like something we should maybe drop then

>> We should embrace such volunteering and support it where possible.

I agree. We should invite people to submit posts on any such events

>> From Rouslan's email: I think that I mentioned something about the slogan
of "the secure CMS", being quite a bit to live up to

True.  Maybe we can revisit this once the redesign process gets underway.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun
Sent: February-07-12 4:18 AM
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Random notes and thoughts from FOSDEM

Seeing that I have a busy second half of the week ahead, I thought I'd
rather post a random list of thoughts than wait until later, when I've
forgotten most of it already ...

1) Open Advice, http://open-advice.org/
If you haven't heard about it yet: Go there, download it, start reading.
Lydia Pintscher (of KDE) put together a collection of short articles from
all sorts of people involved in open source. The subtitle "What we wish we
had known when we started" about sums it up.  
Useful insights and advice, not only in the lights of the upcoming GSoC but
for open source contribution in general.

2) I had the pleasure of meeting Rouslan (Hi!). We only had time for a short
chat since I had to run and catch my train, but it's always nice to meet the
people behind the avatar (with or without wigs ;-) A few things I remember:
- Homepage redesign, especially a new theme. We really need to do this. We
need a nice theme and we need to unclutter the homepage. We should probably
throw some of our money towards a new theme (any ideas how to best approach
this? and any takers for someone taking care of that process?)
- Unused patches and GSoC projects. We have so many patches and
almost-finished GSoC projects sitting around and rotting, it's really
embarrassing. To make it easier for people to contribute, Rouslan suggested
to use Bitbucket (a service pretty much like GitHub, but using Mercurial
instead of Git). Okay, let's try this. I've cloned the Geeklog repository
here:

   https://bitbucket.org/geeklog/

My own account is here: https://bitbucket.org/dhaun/

I'll try and keep our own and the Bitbucket repositories in sync (maybe
there's a way to automate this - have to check). If you have a patch that
you want to contribute, please feel free to try out this route and send a
pull request.

Hmm, what else? I'm sure I've forgotten something. Rouslan?

3) Bounties ... I've attended a few sessions about communities, community
involvement, and the like. In one session (a round table discussion),
someone asked about experiences with bounties. Turns out that none of the
projects represented (all Linux distros in that case) are using bounties.
And I think it's safe to say that our own experiments with bounties have
failed (due to lack of rules for one thing, but there were also other
factors). So I guess we need other ways to encourage people to contribute.
Cleaning up our backlog (see
above) would be a start.

Thoughts?

4) In one session, the concept of "ambassadors" for a project was discussed.
I kind of like the idea: We should have more presence at open source events,
for example. Since I can't be anywhere, members of the community could
represent Geeklog elsewhere. For example, I know that Ivy gave presentations
about Geeklog in Japan. We should embrace such volunteering and support it
where possible. Note: These don't need to be developers. In fact, it may
even be better if they aren't ;-)

Of course, this would need rules (as has also been stressed in that
session). For example, an ambassador (or whatever we want to call it) should
lose his or her status if they are inactive for too long.

Fedora has some information about their ambassador program on their wiki:
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors
http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Ambassadors_FAQ

Thoughts, opinions on that idea?

bye, Dirk


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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Wed Feb  8 14:59:01 2012
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 14:59:01 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.9.0 RC Timeline
In-Reply-To: <001f01ccd916$a321f000$e965d000$@cogeco.net>
References: <001f01ccd916$a321f000$e965d000$@cogeco.net>
Message-ID: <02d801cce69c$1d139110$573ab330$@cogeco.net>

So are we still on track for and end of February release?

 

Dirk do you think you have time to have the first 3 items on the list since
you have the most experience with the install and have already dealt with
the comment form?

 

I am not sure what is involved but I will take a look at Support IPv6 in
Spam-X IP Blacklist module.

 

I do not think we should update Geeklog.net with this release.  I rather
have some more testing done before that happens.  I also believe I need to
do a few forum updates to make it compatible with Geeklog 1.9.0 (I will have
to check on that).

 

Tom

 

 

From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: January-22-12 10:01 AM
To: 'Geeklog Development'
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.9.0 RC Timeline

 

Hey,

 

I was just wondering about the time frame for getting Geeklog 1.9.0 RC out
the door? There is a lot of stuff that needs to be tested.

 

Stuff left to do that should be added or fixed that I see include: 

 

-          Mercurial Install Error

-          Failure when trying to report sitemap.xml write error

-          Comments Form

-          Delete OAuth Account bug

-          Support IPv6 in Spam-X IP Blacklist module

-          Scripts class including theme's style.css

-          Password Hash Upgrade

 

 

Anything else or any comments?

 

Tom

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From vfuria at gmail.com  Wed Feb  8 15:33:43 2012
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 13:33:43 -0700
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.9.0 RC Timeline
In-Reply-To: <02d801cce69c$1d139110$573ab330$@cogeco.net>
References: <001f01ccd916$a321f000$e965d000$@cogeco.net>
	<02d801cce69c$1d139110$573ab330$@cogeco.net>
Message-ID: <CAGSZSdSOHFe7ys+E-gEeSFPPC-P25kHEs3KDkuwSJXz03ZRSmA@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:59, Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net> wrote:

> I do not think we should update Geeklog.net with this release.  I rather
> have some more testing done before that happens.


This is especially true with my password update (though that isn't merged
into the geeklog repo yet). LOTS of testing is recommended before we test
this on an operational system.

Has any progress been made getting the Mercurial Install bug fixed? I
haven't tested a fresh install of my changes because that bug keeps hitting
me.

-Vinny
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Feb  8 17:10:27 2012
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 23:10:27 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.9.0 RC Timeline
In-Reply-To: <CAGSZSdSOHFe7ys+E-gEeSFPPC-P25kHEs3KDkuwSJXz03ZRSmA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001f01ccd916$a321f000$e965d000$@cogeco.net>
	<02d801cce69c$1d139110$573ab330$@cogeco.net>
	<CAGSZSdSOHFe7ys+E-gEeSFPPC-P25kHEs3KDkuwSJXz03ZRSmA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4453802C-0889-4AD6-A92B-F2395DDEA64F@haun-online.de>

Vincent Furia wrote:

> Has any progress been made getting the Mercurial Install bug fixed? I haven't tested a fresh install of my changes because that bug keeps hitting me.

Remind me again what the problem was, please. I did both a fresh install and a migration for an older geeklog.net database yesterday without any problems.

bye, Dirk


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From vfuria at gmail.com  Wed Feb  8 17:19:16 2012
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 15:19:16 -0700
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.9.0 RC Timeline
In-Reply-To: <4453802C-0889-4AD6-A92B-F2395DDEA64F@haun-online.de>
References: <001f01ccd916$a321f000$e965d000$@cogeco.net>
	<02d801cce69c$1d139110$573ab330$@cogeco.net>
	<CAGSZSdSOHFe7ys+E-gEeSFPPC-P25kHEs3KDkuwSJXz03ZRSmA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4453802C-0889-4AD6-A92B-F2395DDEA64F@haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <CAGSZSdS7_eon-cPuo+K_ma1cgsHeqK-odCGTHTJfJ=hEfOVtuA@mail.gmail.com>

With luck I'll have time tonight to pull down a fresh mercurial repository
and post the error. The first problem was the non-existence of the
sitemap.xml file (which I workaround by touching the file and chmod'ing it
666). I don't remember exactly what stopped me at that point, but I think
it was sending me to an empty page with nothing in the error.log.

-Vinny

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 15:10, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:

> Vincent Furia wrote:
>
> > Has any progress been made getting the Mercurial Install bug fixed? I
> haven't tested a fresh install of my changes because that bug keeps hitting
> me.
>
> Remind me again what the problem was, please. I did both a fresh install
> and a migration for an older geeklog.net database yesterday without any
> problems.
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.themobilepresenter.com/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Wed Feb  8 21:28:21 2012
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 19:28:21 -0700
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.9.0 RC Timeline
In-Reply-To: <CAGSZSdS7_eon-cPuo+K_ma1cgsHeqK-odCGTHTJfJ=hEfOVtuA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001f01ccd916$a321f000$e965d000$@cogeco.net>
	<02d801cce69c$1d139110$573ab330$@cogeco.net>
	<CAGSZSdSOHFe7ys+E-gEeSFPPC-P25kHEs3KDkuwSJXz03ZRSmA@mail.gmail.com>
	<4453802C-0889-4AD6-A92B-F2395DDEA64F@haun-online.de>
	<CAGSZSdS7_eon-cPuo+K_ma1cgsHeqK-odCGTHTJfJ=hEfOVtuA@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGSZSdRp6JRQa64g79stBnNWLc0wgoBiUoo=-XO=ruomsUTdeg@mail.gmail.com>

Nevermind. Just did a fresh install from Mercurial and everything worked
fine (still had to create the sitemap.xml file.

-Vinny

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 15:19, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:

> With luck I'll have time tonight to pull down a fresh mercurial repository
> and post the error. The first problem was the non-existence of the
> sitemap.xml file (which I workaround by touching the file and chmod'ing it
> 666). I don't remember exactly what stopped me at that point, but I think
> it was sending me to an empty page with nothing in the error.log.
>
> -Vinny
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 15:10, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
>
>> Vincent Furia wrote:
>>
>> > Has any progress been made getting the Mercurial Install bug fixed? I
>> haven't tested a fresh install of my changes because that bug keeps hitting
>> me.
>>
>> Remind me again what the problem was, please. I did both a fresh install
>> and a migration for an older geeklog.net database yesterday without any
>> problems.
>>
>> bye, Dirk
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.themobilepresenter.com/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Thu Feb  9 00:17:02 2012
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 22:17:02 -0700
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.9.0 RC Timeline
In-Reply-To: <02d801cce69c$1d139110$573ab330$@cogeco.net>
References: <001f01ccd916$a321f000$e965d000$@cogeco.net>
	<02d801cce69c$1d139110$573ab330$@cogeco.net>
Message-ID: <CAGSZSdSXMrcnH2Pm2_WHaJMgvSSDwE5L6N1cOXc-M=sVqdmvYQ@mail.gmail.com>

I just pushed a new branch to the Geeklog Mercurial repository called
"password_update". There are a few bug fixes since I posted the patch here,
so the Mercurial version is preferred for testing. The branch is synced
with HEAD (as of now), so should work for integration testing as well.

My plan is to continue testing from the "password_update" branch. Once
everyone is satisfied with it, I'll merge it into HEAD. Hopefully, this
sounds like reasonable method for adding this (pretty significant) feature.

-Vinny

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:59, Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net> wrote:

> So are we still on track for and end of February release?****
>
> ** **
>
> Dirk do you think you have time to have the first 3 items on the list
> since you have the most experience with the install and have already dealt
> with the comment form?****
>
> ** **
>
> I am not sure what is involved but I will take a look at Support IPv6 in
> Spam-X IP Blacklist module.****
>
> ** **
>
> I do not think we should update Geeklog.net with this release.  I rather
> have some more testing done before that happens.  I also believe I need to
> do a few forum updates to make it compatible with Geeklog 1.9.0 (I will
> have to check on that).****
>
> ** **
>
> Tom****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:
> geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] *On Behalf Of *Tom
> *Sent:* January-22-12 10:01 AM
> *To:* 'Geeklog Development'
> *Subject:* [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.9.0 RC Timeline****
>
> ** **
>
> Hey,****
>
> ** **
>
> I was just wondering about the time frame for getting Geeklog 1.9.0 RC out
> the door? There is a lot of stuff that needs to be tested.****
>
> ** **
>
> Stuff left to do that should be added or fixed that I see include: ****
>
> ** **
>
> **-          **Mercurial Install Error****
>
> **-          **Failure when trying to report sitemap.xml write error****
>
> **-          **Comments Form****
>
> **-          **Delete OAuth Account bug****
>
> **-          **Support IPv6 in Spam-X IP Blacklist module****
>
> **-          **Scripts class including theme's style.css****
>
> **-          **Password Hash Upgrade****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Anything else or any comments?****
>
> ** **
>
> Tom****
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Thu Feb  9 14:50:08 2012
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 14:50:08 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.9.0 RC Timeline
In-Reply-To: <CAGSZSdSXMrcnH2Pm2_WHaJMgvSSDwE5L6N1cOXc-M=sVqdmvYQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001f01ccd916$a321f000$e965d000$@cogeco.net>
	<02d801cce69c$1d139110$573ab330$@cogeco.net>
	<CAGSZSdSXMrcnH2Pm2_WHaJMgvSSDwE5L6N1cOXc-M=sVqdmvYQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <034301cce764$06da56e0$148f04a0$@cogeco.net>

Hey Vinny,

 

I just did a general test of things and didn't run into any problems. It
installed and upgraded fine in mysql.

 

The configuration, user admin editor, and my account (editing passwords,
deleting accounts) all seem to work fine and save the password as set in the
config.

 

I'll setup oauth and openid and try that next.

 

Tom

 

From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Vincent Furia
Sent: February-09-12 12:17 AM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.9.0 RC Timeline

 

I just pushed a new branch to the Geeklog Mercurial repository called
"password_update". There are a few bug fixes since I posted the patch here,
so the Mercurial version is preferred for testing. The branch is synced with
HEAD (as of now), so should work for integration testing as well.

My plan is to continue testing from the "password_update" branch. Once
everyone is satisfied with it, I'll merge it into HEAD. Hopefully, this
sounds like reasonable method for adding this (pretty significant) feature.

-Vinny

On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:59, Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net> wrote:

So are we still on track for and end of February release?

 

Dirk do you think you have time to have the first 3 items on the list since
you have the most experience with the install and have already dealt with
the comment form?

 

I am not sure what is involved but I will take a look at Support IPv6 in
Spam-X IP Blacklist module.

 

I do not think we should update Geeklog.net with this release.  I rather
have some more testing done before that happens.  I also believe I need to
do a few forum updates to make it compatible with Geeklog 1.9.0 (I will have
to check on that).

 

Tom

 

 

From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: January-22-12 10:01 AM
To: 'Geeklog Development'
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.9.0 RC Timeline

 

Hey,

 

I was just wondering about the time frame for getting Geeklog 1.9.0 RC out
the door? There is a lot of stuff that needs to be tested.

 

Stuff left to do that should be added or fixed that I see include: 

 

-          Mercurial Install Error

-          Failure when trying to report sitemap.xml write error

-          Comments Form

-          Delete OAuth Account bug

-          Support IPv6 in Spam-X IP Blacklist module

-          Scripts class including theme's style.css

-          Password Hash Upgrade

 

 

Anything else or any comments?

 

Tom


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From vfuria at gmail.com  Fri Feb 10 01:46:15 2012
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 23:46:15 -0700
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Password Update Makes "sectest" Password Check
	Useless
Message-ID: <CAGSZSdQCf5Qb=zrihfPUV_6gYzO9xS3AYFx0BzPP1u8u4R7gig@mail.gmail.com>

I'll just copy and paste the comment I just wrote in the code for
checkDefaultPassword in sectest.php:

   /* The following will only work as long as the default admin password is
stored in the DB using
     * md5, no salt, and no (1) stretch. Since we are salting passwords
now, there is no good way
     * to scan the user table for a common password without rehasing common
passwords for every user
     * which is clearly not feasible. Because the md5 hash will be replaced
on Admin's first login,
     * this functionality becomes useless, especially for new installs.
FIXME
     */

It would be easy to check if the Admin account was using "password", but a
check for all users like we're doing now isn't feasible. We secured
ourselves out of a trivial password check mechanism... Should we scrap this
altogether? Only check the Admin account? Check all Root accounts? Or does
anyone have any other ideas?

-Vinny
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Fri Feb 10 02:28:02 2012
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 08:28:02 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2012 is happening
In-Reply-To: <545C4009-339F-4EE0-85B7-BD59878F80CC@haun-online.de>
References: <545C4009-339F-4EE0-85B7-BD59878F80CC@haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <CD944A5E-14EB-4E14-A6AF-D63D15776F3E@haun-online.de>

FYI: I've updated the GSoC landing page on the Geeklog wiki for 2012:

http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Google_Summer_of_Code

Updated and new project ideas welcome :)

bye, Dirk


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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Fri Feb 10 09:12:45 2012
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:12:45 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2012 is happening
In-Reply-To: <CD944A5E-14EB-4E14-A6AF-D63D15776F3E@haun-online.de>
References: <545C4009-339F-4EE0-85B7-BD59878F80CC@haun-online.de>
	<CD944A5E-14EB-4E14-A6AF-D63D15776F3E@haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <038b01cce7fe$0f6d42f0$2e47c8d0$@cogeco.net>

I will rewrite the Category Plugin (actually I will just create a new
project since it will be called something else). This project will be stuff
left over from the Category Plugin project plus an update to the admin topic
editor, etc...

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun
Sent: February-10-12 2:28 AM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2012 is happening

FYI: I've updated the GSoC landing page on the Geeklog wiki for 2012:

http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Google_Summer_of_Code

Updated and new project ideas welcome :)

bye, Dirk


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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Fri Feb 10 09:17:47 2012
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2012 09:17:47 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Password Update Makes "sectest" Password
	Check	Useless
In-Reply-To: <CAGSZSdQCf5Qb=zrihfPUV_6gYzO9xS3AYFx0BzPP1u8u4R7gig@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAGSZSdQCf5Qb=zrihfPUV_6gYzO9xS3AYFx0BzPP1u8u4R7gig@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <038c01cce7fe$c382a410$4a87ec30$@cogeco.net>

I would check the admin account still for "password" just so we can cover
those first time installs.

 

BTW I did try out openid last night and everything seemed fine.

 

Tom

 

From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Vincent Furia
Sent: February-10-12 1:46 AM
To: Geeklog
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Password Update Makes "sectest" Password Check
Useless

 

I'll just copy and paste the comment I just wrote in the code for
checkDefaultPassword in sectest.php:

   /* The following will only work as long as the default admin password is
stored in the DB using 
     * md5, no salt, and no (1) stretch. Since we are salting passwords now,
there is no good way 
     * to scan the user table for a common password without rehasing common
passwords for every user
     * which is clearly not feasible. Because the md5 hash will be replaced
on Admin's first login,
     * this functionality becomes useless, especially for new installs.
FIXME
     */

It would be easy to check if the Admin account was using "password", but a
check for all users like we're doing now isn't feasible. We secured
ourselves out of a trivial password check mechanism... Should we scrap this
altogether? Only check the Admin account? Check all Root accounts? Or does
anyone have any other ideas?

-Vinny

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From vfuria at gmail.com  Tue Feb 14 00:59:25 2012
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2012 22:59:25 -0700
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.9.0 RC Timeline
In-Reply-To: <034301cce764$06da56e0$148f04a0$@cogeco.net>
References: <001f01ccd916$a321f000$e965d000$@cogeco.net>
	<02d801cce69c$1d139110$573ab330$@cogeco.net>
	<CAGSZSdSXMrcnH2Pm2_WHaJMgvSSDwE5L6N1cOXc-M=sVqdmvYQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<034301cce764$06da56e0$148f04a0$@cogeco.net>
Message-ID: <CAGSZSdSk2DSArbpfkeUrRtUiiS13QWASKnUT8=F_AJe-mwtneg@mail.gmail.com>

Assuming anyone testing doesn't find any bugs, the password update changes
are almost done. The only part left to do after tonight's commits is to add
MSSQL support (to the "tablesanddata" file and the 1.9.0 update file).

If anyone knows MSSQL and wants to give it a shot, I welcome the
assistance. Otherwise I'll make the changes with the assistance of Dr.
Google.

-Vinny

On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 12:50, Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net> wrote:

> Hey Vinny,****
>
> ** **
>
> I just did a general test of things and didn?t run into any problems. It
> installed and upgraded fine in mysql.****
>
> ** **
>
> The configuration, user admin editor, and my account (editing passwords,
> deleting accounts) all seem to work fine and save the password as set in
> the config.****
>
> ** **
>
> I?ll setup oauth and openid and try that next.****
>
> ** **
>
> Tom****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:
> geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] *On Behalf Of *Vincent Furia
> *Sent:* February-09-12 12:17 AM
> *To:* Geeklog Development
> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.9.0 RC Timeline****
>
> ** **
>
> I just pushed a new branch to the Geeklog Mercurial repository called
> "password_update". There are a few bug fixes since I posted the patch here,
> so the Mercurial version is preferred for testing. The branch is synced
> with HEAD (as of now), so should work for integration testing as well.
>
> My plan is to continue testing from the "password_update" branch. Once
> everyone is satisfied with it, I'll merge it into HEAD. Hopefully, this
> sounds like reasonable method for adding this (pretty significant) feature.
>
> -Vinny****
>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 12:59, Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net> wrote:****
>
> So are we still on track for and end of February release?****
>
>  ****
>
> Dirk do you think you have time to have the first 3 items on the list
> since you have the most experience with the install and have already dealt
> with the comment form?****
>
>  ****
>
> I am not sure what is involved but I will take a look at Support IPv6 in
> Spam-X IP Blacklist module.****
>
>  ****
>
> I do not think we should update Geeklog.net with this release.  I rather
> have some more testing done before that happens.  I also believe I need to
> do a few forum updates to make it compatible with Geeklog 1.9.0 (I will
> have to check on that).****
>
>  ****
>
> Tom****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> *From:* geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:
> geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] *On Behalf Of *Tom
> *Sent:* January-22-12 10:01 AM
> *To:* 'Geeklog Development'
> *Subject:* [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.9.0 RC Timeline****
>
>  ****
>
> Hey,****
>
>  ****
>
> I was just wondering about the time frame for getting Geeklog 1.9.0 RC out
> the door? There is a lot of stuff that needs to be tested.****
>
>  ****
>
> Stuff left to do that should be added or fixed that I see include: ****
>
>  ****
>
> -          Mercurial Install Error****
>
> -          Failure when trying to report sitemap.xml write error****
>
> -          Comments Form****
>
> -          Delete OAuth Account bug****
>
> -          Support IPv6 in Spam-X IP Blacklist module****
>
> -          Scripts class including theme's style.css****
>
> -          Password Hash Upgrade****
>
>  ****
>
>  ****
>
> Anything else or any comments?****
>
>  ****
>
> Tom****
>
>
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> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Sat Feb 18 08:45:09 2012
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 08:45:09 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.9.0 - What Plugin Developers Need to know
Message-ID: <006a01ccee43$879b1950$96d14bf0$@cogeco.net>

Geeklog has changed the way it handles topics and how they are assigned to
stories and blocks in 1.9.0. For most plugins this should not affect them.
While Geeklog 1.9.0 will not be released for a couple of months I wanted to
give the developers a heads up on what has changed.  When the RC is released
I will also be posting this information on Geeklog.net

 

For plugins that create blocks or manipulate blocks within the blocks table
there could be problems. If your plugin supports center blocks there could
also be problems.  Upgrading a Geeklog site to 1.9.0 with plugins that are
currently installed that do this could cause the site not to function. These
plugins should be disabled before upgrading Geeklog.  I also wonder if we
should include a version of Suprsidr's Geeklog Emergency Rescue Tool along
with this release in case a webmaster has problems. (with Suprsidr
permission of course)

 

http://www.geeklog.net/article.php/20100222022417548

 

Anyways, I am currently modifying the Geeklog Fourm to support Geeklog
1.9.0. Here is what I have found:

 

Since topic assignments for blocks are now stored in the topic assignment
table installing Geeklog 1.9.0 will break the forum (the forum attempts to
use the topic column in the blocks table which does not exist anymore). The
forum has 2 blocks. The forum menu which gets enabled and disabled and the
latest forum posts block. After looking at the code the best/easiest way to
fix this issue while still supporting Geeklog 1.6.0+ is to make these blocks
dynamic. See: http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Dynamic_Blocks. 

 

The forum also has an issue with the center block. It attempts to check the
stories table to see if it is featured for the current topic so it knows
where to place the forum center block (above or below the story). This
causes a sql error since story topic assignments are now stored in the topic
assignment table. I may create a new Geeklog plugin function call for this
so plugins can get a true or false answer instead of having the plugin
itself querying these tables. 

 

Let me know if you have any questions.

 

Tom

 

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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sat Feb 18 13:26:40 2012
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 19:26:40 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] [geeklog-spam] Many new users ...
In-Reply-To: <20120208174603.Horde.X2zSfklCcOxPMqbLKrcDXSA@webmail.df.eu>
References: <20120208174603.Horde.X2zSfklCcOxPMqbLKrcDXSA@webmail.df.eu>
Message-ID: <190C0F57-BDCA-46A0-878B-3F6A84375EAF@haun-online.de>

> Just a quick note: I've noticed a suspicious wave of new account signups on geeklog.net.


Turns out there's a site selling instructions on how to create backlinks by setting up fake profiles on sites with PR 5 or higher, and one of the sites listed in those instructions is geeklog.net

I've looked at the logfiles and from what I can see all the fake accounts that have been created were done by human labour, not by bots. I've caught one IP address from the Philippines in the act of creating new profiles, for example. My guess is that this is done through "micro outsourcing", i.e. pay some poor soul in a 3rd world country a few dollars to work their way through the instructions on how to set up a fake profile on geeklog.net (and a bunch of other sites).

That also explains the variety in IP addresses, browsers used, and other indicators. Nothing there that can be blocked easily :-/

bye, Dirk

/cc'ed to geeklog-devel

-- 
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Sun Feb 19 13:55:51 2012
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 11:55:51 -0700
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.9.0 RC Timeline
In-Reply-To: <CAGSZSdSk2DSArbpfkeUrRtUiiS13QWASKnUT8=F_AJe-mwtneg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001f01ccd916$a321f000$e965d000$@cogeco.net>
	<02d801cce69c$1d139110$573ab330$@cogeco.net>
	<CAGSZSdSXMrcnH2Pm2_WHaJMgvSSDwE5L6N1cOXc-M=sVqdmvYQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<034301cce764$06da56e0$148f04a0$@cogeco.net>
	<CAGSZSdSk2DSArbpfkeUrRtUiiS13QWASKnUT8=F_AJe-mwtneg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <CAGSZSdQGWVT_T6CudJobDSyrVM6nfwCMBtrH7Z9mDVuA9nJHsQ@mail.gmail.com>

I've merged the password_update into the HEAD branch. The only things left
untested are MSSQL, PGSQL, openid, and oauth (unless Tom finished those
two).

-Vinny

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 22:59, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:

> Assuming anyone testing doesn't find any bugs, the password update changes
> are almost done. The only part left to do after tonight's commits is to add
> MSSQL support (to the "tablesanddata" file and the 1.9.0 update file).
>
> If anyone knows MSSQL and wants to give it a shot, I welcome the
> assistance. Otherwise I'll make the changes with the assistance of Dr.
> Google.
>
> -Vinny
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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Sun Feb 19 20:20:45 2012
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 20:20:45 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.9.0 RC Timeline
In-Reply-To: <CAGSZSdQGWVT_T6CudJobDSyrVM6nfwCMBtrH7Z9mDVuA9nJHsQ@mail.gmail.com>
References: <001f01ccd916$a321f000$e965d000$@cogeco.net>
	<02d801cce69c$1d139110$573ab330$@cogeco.net>
	<CAGSZSdSXMrcnH2Pm2_WHaJMgvSSDwE5L6N1cOXc-M=sVqdmvYQ@mail.gmail.com>
	<034301cce764$06da56e0$148f04a0$@cogeco.net>
	<CAGSZSdSk2DSArbpfkeUrRtUiiS13QWASKnUT8=F_AJe-mwtneg@mail.gmail.com>
	<CAGSZSdQGWVT_T6CudJobDSyrVM6nfwCMBtrH7Z9mDVuA9nJHsQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00d701ccef6d$deb6d6e0$9c2484a0$@cogeco.net>

I have tested OpenId but have yet to try Oauth.

 

All of my topic stuff for MSSQL and PGSQL have yet to be tested as well.

 

Tom

 

From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Vincent Furia
Sent: February-19-12 1:56 PM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.9.0 RC Timeline

 

I've merged the password_update into the HEAD branch. The only things left
untested are MSSQL, PGSQL, openid, and oauth (unless Tom finished those
two).

-Vinny

On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 22:59, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:

Assuming anyone testing doesn't find any bugs, the password update changes
are almost done. The only part left to do after tonight's commits is to add
MSSQL support (to the "tablesanddata" file and the 1.9.0 update file).

If anyone knows MSSQL and wants to give it a shot, I welcome the assistance.
Otherwise I'll make the changes with the assistance of Dr. Google.

-Vinny

 

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From cordiste at free.fr  Tue Feb 21 06:25:37 2012
From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 12:25:37 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] [geeklog-spam] Many new users ...
In-Reply-To: <190C0F57-BDCA-46A0-878B-3F6A84375EAF@haun-online.de>
References: <20120208174603.Horde.X2zSfklCcOxPMqbLKrcDXSA@webmail.df.eu>
	<190C0F57-BDCA-46A0-878B-3F6A84375EAF@haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <CACfYZddL4+OODi1AGBKderTvAoiUpE_QuNDYh0HdBVYpL0UXtw@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you for the feedback.

Ben

2012/2/18 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>:
>> Just a quick note: I've noticed a suspicious wave of new account signups on geeklog.net.
>
>
> Turns out there's a site selling instructions on how to create backlinks by setting up fake profiles on sites with PR 5 or higher, and one of the sites listed in those instructions is geeklog.net
>
> I've looked at the logfiles and from what I can see all the fake accounts that have been created were done by human labour, not by bots. I've caught one IP address from the Philippines in the act of creating new profiles, for example. My guess is that this is done through "micro outsourcing", i.e. pay some poor soul in a 3rd world country a few dollars to work their way through the instructions on how to set up a fake profile on geeklog.net (and a bunch of other sites).
>
> That also explains the variety in IP addresses, browsers used, and other indicators. Nothing there that can be blocked easily :-/
>
> bye, Dirk
>
> /cc'ed to geeklog-devel
>
> --
> http://www.themobilepresenter.com/
>
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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Tue Feb 21 20:57:40 2012
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 20:57:40 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog.net Site Redesign - Topic Ideas
Message-ID: <01ab01ccf105$5babfbb0$1303f310$@cogeco.net>

Since Geeklog 1.9.0 will support child topics when we upgrade Geeklog.net I
think we should make use of this feature (if it makes sense).

Are current Topic list is:

* Home
** Geeklog
** AptitudeCMS
** Announcements
** Summer of Code
** Security
** Plugins
** Server
** Bugs (Private)
** Spam
** Developers Only (Private)

My first thought is what do we do with the AptitudeCMS topic? Do we just
delete it or should we just have an Archive topic that we stick the
AptitudeCMS topic in? When I say archive I do not mean necessarily using the
archive feature of Geeklog, I just mean a regular topic that we can stick
old topics in that we do not use anymore.

Proposed Topic list:

* Home
** Development
*** Geeklog
*** Plugins
*** Themes
** News
*** Announcements
*** Summer of Code
*** Security
*** Server
** Archive
*** AptitudeCMS
*** Bugs (Private)
*** Developers Only (Private)

All parent topics would be set to inherit articles from their child topics.
Remember as well articles can belong to multiple topics so an article on a
forum plugin security fix could go in the security topic as well as the
plugins topic.

Anyone else have any ideas or suggestions?

Tom



From vfuria at gmail.com  Tue Feb 21 21:25:23 2012
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 19:25:23 -0700
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog.net Site Redesign - Topic Ideas
In-Reply-To: <01ab01ccf105$5babfbb0$1303f310$@cogeco.net>
References: <AczxAeFVikc4IIW9SNe0F4jogGu8Rw==>
	<01ab01ccf105$5babfbb0$1303f310$@cogeco.net>
Message-ID: <CAGSZSdQNddGmhd=UdF_DAagM9jzbfY85DTOD8up3aWsso7uwyw@mail.gmail.com>

Tom,

The organization you laid out looks good to me. I do have a couple of
suggestions.

1. Make the "Archive" topic and all child topics (i.e. AptitudeCMS)
private. All of those topics are dead. I only suggest private because it
would be nice to keep them around for "historical" purposes.
2. Rename "Server" to "geeklog.net" or something else more descriptive
("Site Messages" ... ).

-Vinny
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Feb 22 05:43:05 2012
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:43:05 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2012
Message-ID: <20120222114305.Horde.uf07dqGZi1VPRMa5kJHm38A@webmail.df.eu>

Just a heads-up: The application period for organizations for GSoC  
2012 starts on Monday. Until then we need

- new and reviewed projects for our ideas list
- mentors

I'd say we should aim at 4 student slots again, so we need at least 4  
mentors (preferably more, to have backups). So, who's interested in  
mentoring a project? It would be good if potential mentors have a  
preferred project or two so that  students have a person to contact  
about the project they're interested in.

http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Google_Summer_of_Code

As for projects, I'm considering proposing one that merges how  
comments and trackbacks/pingbacks are displayed, i.e. instead of  
displaying them in separate sections have a "feedback" section that  
displays both, as they come in. Maybe let visitors post comments on  
trackbacks, etc. There's probably more potential for synergies once  
you start thinking about it.

bye, Dirk




From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Wed Feb 22 09:20:18 2012
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 09:20:18 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog.net Site Redesign - Topic Ideas
In-Reply-To: <CAGSZSdQNddGmhd=UdF_DAagM9jzbfY85DTOD8up3aWsso7uwyw@mail.gmail.com>
References: <AczxAeFVikc4IIW9SNe0F4jogGu8Rw==@cgocable.ca>
	<01ab01ccf105$5babfbb0$1303f310$@cogeco.net>
	<CAGSZSdQNddGmhd=UdF_DAagM9jzbfY85DTOD8up3aWsso7uwyw@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <01c601ccf16d$1ac1a790$5044f6b0$@cogeco.net>

Sounds good. I guess we will still keep the topic id as server but change
the name to Geeklog.net

 

The odd time we do get articles submitted on hacks for Geeklog. Should we
add a Hacks topic as well under Development?

 

So if we go ahead with this we will need a few new topic icons (Development,
Themes, Hacks, News).

 

Proposed Topic list:

 

* Home

** Development

*** Geeklog

*** Plugins

*** Themes

*** Hacks

** News

*** Announcements

*** Summer of Code

*** Security

*** Geeklog.net (formerly Server)

** Archive (Private)

*** AptitudeCMS (Private)

*** Bugs (Private)

*** Developers Only (Private)

 

Tom

 

 

From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Vincent Furia
Sent: February-21-12 9:25 PM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog.net Site Redesign - Topic Ideas

 

Tom,

The organization you laid out looks good to me. I do have a couple of
suggestions.

1. Make the "Archive" topic and all child topics (i.e. AptitudeCMS) private.
All of those topics are dead. I only suggest private because it would be
nice to keep them around for "historical" purposes.
2. Rename "Server" to "geeklog.net" or something else more descriptive
("Site Messages" ... ). 

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From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Feb 22 09:49:46 2012
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 15:49:46 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog.net Site Redesign - Topic Ideas
In-Reply-To: <01c601ccf16d$1ac1a790$5044f6b0$@cogeco.net>
References: <AczxAeFVikc4IIW9SNe0F4jogGu8Rw==@cgocable.ca>
	<01ab01ccf105$5babfbb0$1303f310$@cogeco.net>
	<CAGSZSdQNddGmhd=UdF_DAagM9jzbfY85DTOD8up3aWsso7uwyw@mail.gmail.com>
	<01c601ccf16d$1ac1a790$5044f6b0$@cogeco.net>
Message-ID: <20120222154946.Horde.oS7cQruWis5PRQCKaWHF86A@webmail.df.eu>

Quoting Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net>:

> The odd time we do get articles submitted on hacks for Geeklog. Should we
> add a Hacks topic as well under Development?

How often does that happen? We already have a Cool Hacks forum, so we  
could move submissions there (the Forum plugin has an option to move  
articles from the submission queue to a forum).

Also, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to have "Hacks" as a topic,  
given our project's tagline ;-)

Rest looks good to me.

bye, Dirk




From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Wed Feb 22 10:34:36 2012
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 10:34:36 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog.net Site Redesign - Topic Ideas
In-Reply-To: <20120222154946.Horde.oS7cQruWis5PRQCKaWHF86A@webmail.df.eu>
References: <AczxAeFVikc4IIW9SNe0F4jogGu8Rw==@cgocable.ca>
	<01ab01ccf105$5babfbb0$1303f310$@cogeco.net>
	<CAGSZSdQNddGmhd=UdF_DAagM9jzbfY85DTOD8up3aWsso7uwyw@mail.gmail.com>
	<01c601ccf16d$1ac1a790$5044f6b0$@cogeco.net>
	<20120222154946.Horde.oS7cQruWis5PRQCKaWHF86A@webmail.df.eu>
Message-ID: <01e301ccf177$7b8aadb0$72a00910$@cogeco.net>

Good point. 

-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun
Sent: February-22-12 9:50 AM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog.net Site Redesign - Topic Ideas

Quoting Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net>:

> The odd time we do get articles submitted on hacks for Geeklog. Should 
> we add a Hacks topic as well under Development?

How often does that happen? We already have a Cool Hacks forum, so we could
move submissions there (the Forum plugin has an option to move articles from
the submission queue to a forum).

Also, I'm not sure if it's a good idea to have "Hacks" as a topic, given our
project's tagline ;-)

Rest looks good to me.

bye, Dirk


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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Thu Feb 23 14:20:08 2012
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Thu, 23 Feb 2012 14:20:08 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2012
In-Reply-To: <20120222114305.Horde.uf07dqGZi1VPRMa5kJHm38A@webmail.df.eu>
References: <20120222114305.Horde.uf07dqGZi1VPRMa5kJHm38A@webmail.df.eu>
Message-ID: <028501ccf260$27cfbe10$776f3a30$@cogeco.net>

I will update/rewrite the category project.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun
Sent: February-22-12 5:43 AM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2012

Just a heads-up: The application period for organizations for GSoC
2012 starts on Monday. Until then we need

- new and reviewed projects for our ideas list
- mentors

I'd say we should aim at 4 student slots again, so we need at least 4
mentors (preferably more, to have backups). So, who's interested in
mentoring a project? It would be good if potential mentors have a preferred
project or two so that  students have a person to contact about the project
they're interested in.

http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Google_Summer_of_Code

As for projects, I'm considering proposing one that merges how comments and
trackbacks/pingbacks are displayed, i.e. instead of displaying them in
separate sections have a "feedback" section that displays both, as they come
in. Maybe let visitors post comments on trackbacks, etc. There's probably
more potential for synergies once you start thinking about it.

bye, Dirk


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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Wed Feb 29 12:04:54 2012
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Wed, 29 Feb 2012 12:04:54 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.9.0 RC Update
Message-ID: <050b01ccf704$41f84020$c5e8c060$@cogeco.net>

Hey,

I just added the latest patch to the comment form branch and retested
everything.  It looks good so I merged with Head.

So to get Geeklog 1.9.0 RC out the door we have the following items left to
work on: 

-	Failure when trying to report sitemap.xml write error
-	Support IPv6 in Spam-X IP Blacklist module


Am I missing anything?

Tom