From dirk at haun-online.de Sun Oct 10 13:27:32 2010 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 19:27:32 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead Message-ID: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 is finally up and available for download: http://www.geeklog.net/article.php/geeklog-1.7.1rc1 I had some problems with the Static Pages plugin when updating geeklog.net. Anyone else? Looking ahead: Are any of our GSoC projects in a state where we could get them into Geeklog 1.8.0 within the next 6 weeks or so? I know Tom wants to include the OAuth support provided by our friends from geeklog.jp. Anything else on the agenda? I'd suggest we try and keep our schedule (major releases in April and November) - but of course we need some new features for a major release in the first place ;-) Instead of implementing new stuff at this point, though, we should concentrate on finishing things we already have in the pipeline - such as our GSoC projects. bye, Dirk From komma at ivywe.co.jp Sun Oct 10 14:05:29 2010 From: komma at ivywe.co.jp (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOiM2cEUvO1IbKEJAR2Vla2xvZyBJdnlXZQ==?=) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 03:05:29 +0900 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead In-Reply-To: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> Message-ID: Dirk, We are looking forward to include the OAuth support. Thanks. bye, Ivy -- http://www.geeklog.jp http://www.ivywe.co.jp Ivy From websitemaster at cogeco.net Mon Oct 11 09:55:09 2010 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 09:55:09 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead In-Reply-To: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> Message-ID: <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> This stems from the talks about a new Geeklog theme and site redesign. I wouldn't mind for 1.8.0 to update the professional theme and get rid of all those tables. I have been planning to check out the updated professional theme called ProfessionalCSS_en from geeklog.jp with the idea of using it: http://www.geeklog.net/filemgmt/index.php/1011 I would like to keep the professional theme (the updated one) as the default for all Geeklog installs since it makes a good base for creating new themes. As Randy suggested I also think Geeklog.net homepage needs a bit of a redesign (theme and layout). I agree with the suggestion of a bounty for this project (once we discuss what we want) since nobody has stepped forward to offer their services. I see this theme also being included in the install once finished. Tom PS I will be working on the OAuth support fist. -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun Sent: October-10-10 1:28 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 is finally up and available for download: http://www.geeklog.net/article.php/geeklog-1.7.1rc1 I had some problems with the Static Pages plugin when updating geeklog.net. Anyone else? Looking ahead: Are any of our GSoC projects in a state where we could get them into Geeklog 1.8.0 within the next 6 weeks or so? I know Tom wants to include the OAuth support provided by our friends from geeklog.jp. Anything else on the agenda? I'd suggest we try and keep our schedule (major releases in April and November) - but of course we need some new features for a major release in the first place ;-) Instead of implementing new stuff at this point, though, we should concentrate on finishing things we already have in the pipeline - such as our GSoC projects. bye, Dirk _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5519 (20101011) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5520 (20101011) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From rouslan at placella.com Mon Oct 11 15:03:41 2010 From: rouslan at placella.com (Rouslan Placella) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 20:03:41 +0100 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead In-Reply-To: <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> Message-ID: <1286823821.3468.11.camel@roccivic-pc> Hi all, I had disappeared for a while due to personal reasons, but very shortly I will be available again for work on geeklog. Some time ago I offered to do some work on GL icons ( http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=90655 ). I'm still up for the job and can deliver within a few weeks. I can also help with other graphics and general coding, if you'd like me to. Rouslan. On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 09:55 -0400, Tom wrote: > This stems from the talks about a new Geeklog theme and site redesign. > > I wouldn't mind for 1.8.0 to update the professional theme and get rid of > all those tables. I have been planning to check out the updated professional > theme called ProfessionalCSS_en from geeklog.jp with the idea of using it: > > http://www.geeklog.net/filemgmt/index.php/1011 > > I would like to keep the professional theme (the updated one) as the default > for all Geeklog installs since it makes a good base for creating new themes. > > > As Randy suggested I also think Geeklog.net homepage needs a bit of a > redesign (theme and layout). I agree with the suggestion of a bounty for > this project (once we discuss what we want) since nobody has stepped forward > to offer their services. I see this theme also being included in the install > once finished. > > > Tom > > PS I will be working on the OAuth support fist. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun > Sent: October-10-10 1:28 PM > To: Geeklog Development > Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead > > Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 is finally up and available for download: > > http://www.geeklog.net/article.php/geeklog-1.7.1rc1 > > I had some problems with the Static Pages plugin when updating geeklog.net. > Anyone else? > > > Looking ahead: Are any of our GSoC projects in a state where we could get > them into Geeklog 1.8.0 within the next 6 weeks or so? > > I know Tom wants to include the OAuth support provided by our friends from > geeklog.jp. Anything else on the agenda? I'd suggest we try and keep our > schedule (major releases in April and November) - but of course we need some > new features for a major release in the first place ;-) Instead of > implementing new stuff at this point, though, we should concentrate on > finishing things we already have in the pipeline - such as our GSoC > projects. > > bye, Dirk > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5519 (20101011) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5520 (20101011) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel From cordiste at free.fr Mon Oct 11 16:56:11 2010 From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste) Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 22:56:11 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead In-Reply-To: <1286823821.3468.11.camel@roccivic-pc> References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> <1286823821.3468.11.camel@roccivic-pc> Message-ID: Hi Rouslan, Welcome back. Do you have some ideas we can follow to improve geeklog logo and the main theme. Something like your nice icons. Ben 2010/10/11 Rouslan Placella : > Hi all, > > I had disappeared for a while due to personal reasons, but very shortly > I will be available again for work on geeklog. > > Some time ago I offered to do some work on GL icons ( > http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=90655 ). I'm still > up for the job and can deliver within a few weeks. I can also help with > other graphics and general coding, if you'd like me to. > > Rouslan. > > On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 09:55 -0400, Tom wrote: >> This stems from the talks about a new Geeklog theme and site redesign. >> >> I wouldn't mind for 1.8.0 to update the professional theme and get rid of >> all those tables. I have been planning to check out the updated professional >> theme called ProfessionalCSS_en from geeklog.jp with the idea of using it: >> >> http://www.geeklog.net/filemgmt/index.php/1011 >> >> I would like to keep the professional theme (the updated one) as the default >> for all Geeklog installs since it makes a good base for creating new themes. >> >> >> As Randy suggested I also think Geeklog.net homepage needs a bit of a >> redesign (theme and layout). I agree with the suggestion of a bounty for >> this project (once we discuss what we want) since nobody has stepped forward >> to offer their services. I see this theme also being included in the install >> once finished. >> >> >> Tom >> >> PS I will be working on the OAuth support fist. >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net >> [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun >> Sent: October-10-10 1:28 PM >> To: Geeklog Development >> Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead >> >> Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 is finally up and available for download: >> >> http://www.geeklog.net/article.php/geeklog-1.7.1rc1 >> >> I had some problems with the Static Pages plugin when updating geeklog.net. >> Anyone else? >> >> >> Looking ahead: Are any of our GSoC projects in a state where we could get >> them into Geeklog 1.8.0 within the next 6 weeks or so? >> >> I know Tom wants to include the OAuth support provided by our friends from >> geeklog.jp. Anything else on the agenda? I'd suggest we try and keep our >> schedule (major releases in April and November) - but of course we need some >> new features for a major release in the first place ;-) Instead of >> implementing new stuff at this point, though, we should concentrate on >> finishing things we already have in the pipeline - such as our GSoC >> projects. >> >> bye, Dirk >> >> _______________________________________________ >> geeklog-devel mailing list >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >> database 5519 (20101011) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >> database 5520 (20101011) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> geeklog-devel mailing list >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > From rouslan at placella.com Tue Oct 12 15:19:09 2010 From: rouslan at placella.com (Rouslan Placella) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 20:19:09 +0100 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead In-Reply-To: References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> <1286823821.3468.11.camel@roccivic-pc> Message-ID: <1286911149.2336.102.camel@roccivic-pc> I think that it is necessary to have some guidelines to make sure that artwork that is created by different developers is consistent and works well together. When I started work on those icons, I really just took a stab at it in the hope that people would like them. I tried to follow to the "Tango!" guidelines[1], but I have deviated from them a bit. I must say that from I have seem, I think that the reaction so far has been positive. If there are plans to continue improving the graphics, it would make sense to have "Geeklog style guidelines". Because I'm a newbie in open-source software development, I don't know how things work around here and what is necessary for this (or if this is even necessary). If such guidelines are to be created, I would suggest that one of them should be that all graphics should be available in SVG format. This is because it is much easier to maintain vector graphics, rather then raster graphics. In fact, I'm keeping an SVG copy of every icon that I've worked on so far ;) As far as GL logo goes, I'm available to do work on it, if this is required. Not straight away, as I will be moving house shortly, but in about 2-3 weeks. One issue that I can see with the current logo is that it is saved in a not-very-nice format: GIF. This format has only a 1-bit alpha channel, resulting in incorrect display when the background colour is something other then what the image was created for. This problem is very obvious on the demo site, if you switch the theme. A much better format is PNG, because it has an 8-bit alpha channel. This allows for good display on any background, but it is not handled very gracefully by ancient browsers like IE5 and IE6. That's my thoughts so far. Rouslan. [1] http://tango.freedesktop.org/Tango_Icon_Theme_Guidelines On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 22:56 +0200, cordiste wrote: > Hi Rouslan, > > Welcome back. > Do you have some ideas we can follow to improve geeklog logo and the > main theme. Something like your nice icons. > > Ben > > 2010/10/11 Rouslan Placella : > > Hi all, > > > > I had disappeared for a while due to personal reasons, but very shortly > > I will be available again for work on geeklog. > > > > Some time ago I offered to do some work on GL icons ( > > http://www.geeklog.net/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=90655 ). I'm still > > up for the job and can deliver within a few weeks. I can also help with > > other graphics and general coding, if you'd like me to. > > > > Rouslan. > > > > On Mon, 2010-10-11 at 09:55 -0400, Tom wrote: > >> This stems from the talks about a new Geeklog theme and site redesign. > >> > >> I wouldn't mind for 1.8.0 to update the professional theme and get rid of > >> all those tables. I have been planning to check out the updated professional > >> theme called ProfessionalCSS_en from geeklog.jp with the idea of using it: > >> > >> http://www.geeklog.net/filemgmt/index.php/1011 > >> > >> I would like to keep the professional theme (the updated one) as the default > >> for all Geeklog installs since it makes a good base for creating new themes. > >> > >> > >> As Randy suggested I also think Geeklog.net homepage needs a bit of a > >> redesign (theme and layout). I agree with the suggestion of a bounty for > >> this project (once we discuss what we want) since nobody has stepped forward > >> to offer their services. I see this theme also being included in the install > >> once finished. > >> > >> > >> Tom > >> > >> PS I will be working on the OAuth support fist. > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net > >> [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun > >> Sent: October-10-10 1:28 PM > >> To: Geeklog Development > >> Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead > >> > >> Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 is finally up and available for download: > >> > >> http://www.geeklog.net/article.php/geeklog-1.7.1rc1 > >> > >> I had some problems with the Static Pages plugin when updating geeklog.net. > >> Anyone else? > >> > >> > >> Looking ahead: Are any of our GSoC projects in a state where we could get > >> them into Geeklog 1.8.0 within the next 6 weeks or so? > >> > >> I know Tom wants to include the OAuth support provided by our friends from > >> geeklog.jp. Anything else on the agenda? I'd suggest we try and keep our > >> schedule (major releases in April and November) - but of course we need some > >> new features for a major release in the first place ;-) Instead of > >> implementing new stuff at this point, though, we should concentrate on > >> finishing things we already have in the pipeline - such as our GSoC > >> projects. > >> > >> bye, Dirk > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> geeklog-devel mailing list > >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > >> > >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > >> database 5519 (20101011) __________ > >> > >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >> > >> http://www.eset.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > >> database 5520 (20101011) __________ > >> > >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >> > >> http://www.eset.com > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> geeklog-devel mailing list > >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > geeklog-devel mailing list > > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel From dirk at haun-online.de Tue Oct 12 16:17:26 2010 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:17:26 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead In-Reply-To: <1286911149.2336.102.camel@roccivic-pc> References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> <1286823821.3468.11.camel@roccivic-pc> <1286911149.2336.102.camel@roccivic-pc> Message-ID: Rouslan Placella wrote: > If there are plans to continue improving the graphics, it would make > sense to have "Geeklog style guidelines". Because I'm a newbie in > open-source software development, I don't know how things work around > here and what is necessary for this (or if this is even necessary). We don't really have any style guidelines. Regarding design, we're all amateurs here. Simon Lord (who also designed the current Geeklog logo) was our "house artist" for a long time. This position has been vacant since Simon moved on. > As far as GL logo goes, I'm available to do work on it, if this is > required. I don't really see the need for an entirely new logo - unless someone comes up with something fresh and convincing, of course. The current logo may need some retouching to better fit with whatever comes out of the efforts for a new site design. > One issue that I can see with the current logo is that > it is saved in a not-very-nice format: GIF. That's because one of those amateurs (read: me) did that at one point and nobody has ever bothered to provide a better version. A higher-res version of the Geeklog logo is available here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Geeklog-logo.png bye, Dirk From rouslan at placella.com Tue Oct 12 17:35:13 2010 From: rouslan at placella.com (Rouslan Placella) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:35:13 +0100 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead In-Reply-To: References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> <1286823821.3468.11.camel@roccivic-pc> <1286911149.2336.102.camel@roccivic-pc> Message-ID: <1286919313.2078.47.camel@roccivic-pc> On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 22:17 +0200, Dirk Haun wrote: > We don't really have any style guidelines. Regarding design, we're all amateurs here. But would it be OK to include some style guidelines in the project? I'm not a professional either when it comes to design and drawing, but I find it that having a palette and a small guide is very helpful for drawing something that has to fit well within a project. This also, in my opinion, helps to create a consistent experience for the user, that is pleasant to the eye. > The current logo may need some retouching to better fit with whatever comes out of the efforts for a new site design. I had nothing major in mind either, just a polish. Maybe to also convert the logo in another format that will make easier to make further modifications, if required. > That's because one of those amateurs (read: me) did that at one point and nobody has ever bothered to provide a better version. Thanks for the link. I'll have a look into providing a better version when I can. Rouslan From websitemaster at cogeco.net Tue Oct 12 17:58:15 2010 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 17:58:15 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead In-Reply-To: References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> <1286823821.3468.11.camel@roccivic-pc> <1286911149.2336.102.camel@roccivic-pc> Message-ID: <017001cb6a58$944f91a0$bceeb4e0$@net> >> We don't really have any style guidelines. Regarding design, we're all amateurs here. Rouslan if you are going to work on some icons for us (that would be great) maybe a style/graphics guideline should be started. If you want, you could start one in the Geeklog Wiki that you and others could add to over time. >> As far as GL logo goes, I'm available to do work on it, if this is required. Cool. My plan is to update the current professional theme and remove all table references, etc. by 1.8.0. It would be nice if we could have an updated icon set and a slightly retouched logo to go along with that. We are looking at doing a complete theme/homepage redesign, but not until later so a complete logo redesign wouldn't make sense until then. I guess the first thing we need to do is get a full list of icons that need updating (default topics, command and control, print, edit, etc.). Thanks Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun Sent: October-12-10 4:17 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead Rouslan Placella wrote: > If there are plans to continue improving the graphics, it would make > sense to have "Geeklog style guidelines". Because I'm a newbie in > open-source software development, I don't know how things work around > here and what is necessary for this (or if this is even necessary). We don't really have any style guidelines. Regarding design, we're all amateurs here. Simon Lord (who also designed the current Geeklog logo) was our "house artist" for a long time. This position has been vacant since Simon moved on. > As far as GL logo goes, I'm available to do work on it, if this is > required. I don't really see the need for an entirely new logo - unless someone comes up with something fresh and convincing, of course. The current logo may need some retouching to better fit with whatever comes out of the efforts for a new site design. > One issue that I can see with the current logo is that > it is saved in a not-very-nice format: GIF. That's because one of those amateurs (read: me) did that at one point and nobody has ever bothered to provide a better version. A higher-res version of the Geeklog logo is available here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Geeklog-logo.png bye, Dirk _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5525 (20101012) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5525 (20101012) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From rouslan at placella.com Wed Oct 13 03:59:12 2010 From: rouslan at placella.com (Rouslan Placella) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:59:12 +0100 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead In-Reply-To: <017001cb6a58$944f91a0$bceeb4e0$@net> References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> <1286823821.3468.11.camel@roccivic-pc> <1286911149.2336.102.camel@roccivic-pc> <017001cb6a58$944f91a0$bceeb4e0$@net> Message-ID: <1286956752.1989.7.camel@roccivic-pc> > Rouslan if you are going to work on some icons for us (that would be great) > maybe a style/graphics guideline should be started. If you want, you could > start one in the Geeklog Wiki that you and others could add to over time. Ok, I'll look into doing this. > I guess the first thing we need to do is get a full list of icons that need > updating (default topics, command and control, print, edit, etc.). Good idea. Also I have a list of problems/issues that I have identified while working on the icons. What is the best way to share this? Just post in another message in this mailing list? Or maybe on the forum or in the bug tracker? Rouslan > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun > Sent: October-12-10 4:17 PM > To: Geeklog Development > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead > > Rouslan Placella wrote: > > > If there are plans to continue improving the graphics, it would make > > sense to have "Geeklog style guidelines". Because I'm a newbie in > > open-source software development, I don't know how things work around > > here and what is necessary for this (or if this is even necessary). > > We don't really have any style guidelines. Regarding design, we're all > amateurs here. > > Simon Lord (who also designed the current Geeklog logo) was our "house > artist" for a long time. This position has been vacant since Simon moved on. > > > > As far as GL logo goes, I'm available to do work on it, if this is > > required. > > I don't really see the need for an entirely new logo - unless someone comes > up with something fresh and convincing, of course. The current logo may need > some retouching to better fit with whatever comes out of the efforts for a > new site design. > > > > One issue that I can see with the current logo is that > > it is saved in a not-very-nice format: GIF. > > That's because one of those amateurs (read: me) did that at one point and > nobody has ever bothered to provide a better version. A higher-res version > of the Geeklog logo is available here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Geeklog-logo.png > > bye, Dirk > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5525 (20101012) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5525 (20101012) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel From rouslan at placella.com Wed Oct 13 04:34:36 2010 From: rouslan at placella.com (Rouslan Placella) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:34:36 +0100 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead In-Reply-To: References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> <1286823821.3468.11.camel@roccivic-pc> <1286911149.2336.102.camel@roccivic-pc> Message-ID: <1286958876.1989.43.camel@roccivic-pc> > > One issue that I can see with the current logo is that > > it is saved in a not-very-nice format: GIF. > > That's because one of those amateurs (read: me) did that at one point and nobody has ever bothered to provide a better version. A higher-res version of the Geeklog logo is available here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Geeklog-logo.png I had a better look at the high-res logo. Even though PNG has the capacity for better alpha handling, the above logo is still affected by the same problem. Try putting it over black background, if you would like to see what I'm talking about. Rouslan From websitemaster at cogeco.net Wed Oct 13 09:02:12 2010 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:02:12 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead In-Reply-To: <1286956752.1989.7.camel@roccivic-pc> References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> <1286823821.3468.11.camel@roccivic-pc> <1286911149.2336.102.camel@roccivic-pc> <017001cb6a58$944f91a0$bceeb4e0$@net> <1286956752.1989.7.camel@roccivic-pc> Message-ID: <001801cb6ad6$da12c580$8e385080$@net> Rouslan I guess it depends on the type of problem. Why don't you post the issues here and if we need to we can move it to another venue. Dirk/Rouslan I am not sure what the best tool for this but should we have some sort of repository for the source graphic files? Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Rouslan Placella Sent: October-13-10 3:59 AM To: Geeklog Development Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead > Rouslan if you are going to work on some icons for us (that would be great) > maybe a style/graphics guideline should be started. If you want, you could > start one in the Geeklog Wiki that you and others could add to over time. Ok, I'll look into doing this. > I guess the first thing we need to do is get a full list of icons that need > updating (default topics, command and control, print, edit, etc.). Good idea. Also I have a list of problems/issues that I have identified while working on the icons. What is the best way to share this? Just post in another message in this mailing list? Or maybe on the forum or in the bug tracker? Rouslan > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun > Sent: October-12-10 4:17 PM > To: Geeklog Development > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead > > Rouslan Placella wrote: > > > If there are plans to continue improving the graphics, it would make > > sense to have "Geeklog style guidelines". Because I'm a newbie in > > open-source software development, I don't know how things work around > > here and what is necessary for this (or if this is even necessary). > > We don't really have any style guidelines. Regarding design, we're all > amateurs here. > > Simon Lord (who also designed the current Geeklog logo) was our "house > artist" for a long time. This position has been vacant since Simon moved on. > > > > As far as GL logo goes, I'm available to do work on it, if this is > > required. > > I don't really see the need for an entirely new logo - unless someone comes > up with something fresh and convincing, of course. The current logo may need > some retouching to better fit with whatever comes out of the efforts for a > new site design. > > > > One issue that I can see with the current logo is that > > it is saved in a not-very-nice format: GIF. > > That's because one of those amateurs (read: me) did that at one point and > nobody has ever bothered to provide a better version. A higher-res version > of the Geeklog logo is available here: > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Geeklog-logo.png > > bye, Dirk > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5525 (20101012) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5525 (20101012) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5527 (20101013) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5527 (20101013) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From dirk at haun-online.de Wed Oct 13 16:01:22 2010 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:01:22 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Fwd: [geeklog-translations] Staticpages' english.php vs. english_utf-8.php References: <20101013.182657.921.2@LWC> Message-ID: > Von: "LWC" > Datum: 13. Oktober 2010 20:26:57 Uhr MESZ > An: geeklog-translations at lists.geeklog.net > Betreff: [geeklog-translations] Staticpages' english.php vs. english_utf-8.php > Antwort an: Translating Geeklog > > english_utf-8.php was updated while english.php was not. I only mention > this because I assume they're managed by the same person. So please > update english.php too. > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-translations mailing list > geeklog-translations at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-translations Haven't checked this yet. In the future, if anyone is changing any language files, please either update english.php and english_utf-8.php or only english.php The scripts to update the language files assume that all changes have been made to english.php and will copy them over to all the other language files (including english_utf-8.php). bye, Dirk From rouslan at placella.com Wed Oct 13 16:24:03 2010 From: rouslan at placella.com (Rouslan Placella) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 21:24:03 +0100 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead In-Reply-To: <001801cb6ad6$da12c580$8e385080$@net> References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> <1286823821.3468.11.camel@roccivic-pc> <1286911149.2336.102.camel@roccivic-pc> <017001cb6a58$944f91a0$bceeb4e0$@net> <1286956752.1989.7.camel@roccivic-pc> <001801cb6ad6$da12c580$8e385080$@net> Message-ID: <1287001443.8269.8.camel@roccivic-pc> On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 09:02 -0400, Tom wrote: > Rouslan > > I guess it depends on the type of problem. Why don't you post the issues > here and if we need to we can move it to another venue. Maybe I got the wording wrong, these aren't really problems, but maybe things that should be looked at. I found some duplicate content here: duplicates: ./public_html/calendar/images/delete_event.png ./public_html/layout/professional/images/icons/delete_event.png same icon as the above, but different format: ./public_html/calendar/images/delete_event.gif different picture (but is it really required?) : ./public_html/layout/professional/images/deleteitem.png I found a whole bunch of icons that are used to represent MIME types in ./public_html/images/library/Image/icons Do these icons need updating? Also these are all duplicated in: ./public_html/fckeditor/editor/filemanager/browser/default/images/icons/32 I also wonder why the polls plugin has "bar.gif" inside the layout directory, but other plugins have their graphics in their own directories. This seems inconsistent to me... > Dirk/Rouslan > > I am not sure what the best tool for this but should we have some sort of > repository for the source graphic files? > > Tom Sorry, I don't know about this. Rouslan From dirk at haun-online.de Wed Oct 13 16:23:58 2010 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:23:58 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Graphics (was: Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead) In-Reply-To: <001801cb6ad6$da12c580$8e385080$@net> References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> <1286823821.3468.11.camel@roccivic-pc> <1286911149.2336.102.camel@roccivic-pc> <017001cb6a58$944f91a0$bceeb4e0$@net> <1286956752.1989.7.camel@roccivic-pc> <001801cb6ad6$da12c580$8e385080$@net> Message-ID: <74CE540D-2D12-4EC4-ADC6-605BF01D177B@haun-online.de> Tom wrote: > I am not sure what the best tool for this but should we have some sort of > repository for the source graphic files? Generally speaking, revision control on binary files isn't working too well. But I guess files these wouldn't change too often, so why not. @Rouslan: I also have PSD and EPS versions of the logo - not sure if they're any better than the PNG, though. Those are probably the first files that should go into said repository ... bye, Dirk From rouslan at placella.com Wed Oct 13 17:25:57 2010 From: rouslan at placella.com (Rouslan Placella) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 22:25:57 +0100 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Graphics (was: Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead) In-Reply-To: <74CE540D-2D12-4EC4-ADC6-605BF01D177B@haun-online.de> References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> <1286823821.3468.11.camel@roccivic-pc> <1286911149.2336.102.camel@roccivic-pc> <017001cb6a58$944f91a0$bceeb4e0$@net> <1286956752.1989.7.camel@roccivic-pc> <001801cb6ad6$da12c580$8e385080$@net> <74CE540D-2D12-4EC4-ADC6-605BF01D177B@haun-online.de> Message-ID: <1287005157.1945.15.camel@roccivic-pc> @Dirk: I don't think that those formats are any better. Especially after reading this comment[1] about PSD, I really don't feel like dealing with such a format. Earlier today I started tracing the high resolution logo that you gave me with the aim to have a proper vector copy of it soon. This is what I got so far[2]. Of course, it's not finished and it requires further polishing. Rouslan [1]: http://code.google.com/p/xee/source/browse/trunk/XeePhotoshopLoader.m?spec=svn28&r=11#107 [2]: http://www.placella.com/gl/logo-1.tar.gz On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 22:23 +0200, Dirk Haun wrote: > Tom wrote: > > > I am not sure what the best tool for this but should we have some sort of > > repository for the source graphic files? > > Generally speaking, revision control on binary files isn't working too well. But I guess files these wouldn't change too often, so why not. > > @Rouslan: I also have PSD and EPS versions of the logo - not sure if they're any better than the PNG, though. Those are probably the first files that should go into said repository ... > > bye, Dirk > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel From websitemaster at cogeco.net Wed Oct 13 17:55:18 2010 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 17:55:18 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead In-Reply-To: <1287001443.8269.8.camel@roccivic-pc> References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> <1286823821.3468.11.camel@roccivic-pc> <1286911149.2336.102.camel@roccivic-pc> <017001cb6a58$944f91a0$bceeb4e0$@net> <1286956752.1989.7.camel@roccivic-pc> <001801cb6ad6$da12c580$8e385080$@net> <1287001443.8269.8.camel@roccivic-pc> Message-ID: <005701cb6b21$5308ce90$f91a6bb0$@net> duplicates: ./public_html/calendar/images/delete_event.png ./public_html/layout/professional/images/icons/delete_event.png same icon as the above, but different format: ./public_html/calendar/images/delete_event.gif different picture (but is it really required?) : ./public_html/layout/professional/images/deleteitem.png The delete_event icon should be in the calendar directory, the deleteitem.png file is used by the admin interface. As you can tell the images and icons directory structure needs a tidy up. There are also probably a number of icons that are not used and need to be deleted. Why don't you start fresh and arrange the images and icons on how you think they should be done. Let us know what you come up with and keep track of the changes (ie this icon was renamed this ... and moved here ...) so I will be able to update the theme/geeklog code with them. >I found a whole bunch of icons that are used to represent MIME types >in ./public_html/images/library/Image/icons I don't think these are used? Anyone know? >I also wonder why the polls plugin has "bar.gif" inside the layout >directory, but other plugins have their graphics in their own >directories. This seems inconsistent to me... It is! Make a note of it (or add to the geeklog bug tracker) as it should be moved to the polls directory under public_html Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Rouslan Placella Sent: October-13-10 4:24 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 09:02 -0400, Tom wrote: > Rouslan > > I guess it depends on the type of problem. Why don't you post the issues > here and if we need to we can move it to another venue. Maybe I got the wording wrong, these aren't really problems, but maybe things that should be looked at. I found some duplicate content here: duplicates: ./public_html/calendar/images/delete_event.png ./public_html/layout/professional/images/icons/delete_event.png same icon as the above, but different format: ./public_html/calendar/images/delete_event.gif different picture (but is it really required?) : ./public_html/layout/professional/images/deleteitem.png I found a whole bunch of icons that are used to represent MIME types in ./public_html/images/library/Image/icons Do these icons need updating? Also these are all duplicated in: ./public_html/fckeditor/editor/filemanager/browser/default/images/icons/32 I also wonder why the polls plugin has "bar.gif" inside the layout directory, but other plugins have their graphics in their own directories. This seems inconsistent to me... > Dirk/Rouslan > > I am not sure what the best tool for this but should we have some sort of > repository for the source graphic files? > > Tom Sorry, I don't know about this. Rouslan _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5529 (20101013) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5529 (20101013) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From vfuria at gmail.com Thu Oct 14 01:25:31 2010 From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia) Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 23:25:31 -0600 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Graphics (was: Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead) In-Reply-To: <74CE540D-2D12-4EC4-ADC6-605BF01D177B@haun-online.de> References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> <1286823821.3468.11.camel@roccivic-pc> <1286911149.2336.102.camel@roccivic-pc> <017001cb6a58$944f91a0$bceeb4e0$@net> <1286956752.1989.7.camel@roccivic-pc> <001801cb6ad6$da12c580$8e385080$@net> <74CE540D-2D12-4EC4-ADC6-605BF01D177B@haun-online.de> Message-ID: Supposedly Hg handles binaries just fine: http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/CvsConcepts#Binary_files I do not have any direct experience though. -Vinny On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 14:23, Dirk Haun wrote: > Generally speaking, revision control on binary files isn't working too > well. But I guess files these wouldn't change too often, so why not. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dirk at haun-online.de Thu Oct 14 01:59:35 2010 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 07:59:35 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Graphics (was: Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead) In-Reply-To: References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> <1286823821.3468.11.camel@roccivic-pc> <1286911149.2336.102.camel@roccivic-pc> <017001cb6a58$944f91a0$bceeb4e0$@net> <1286956752.1989.7.camel@roccivic-pc> <001801cb6ad6$da12c580$8e385080$@net> <74CE540D-2D12-4EC4-ADC6-605BF01D177B@haun-online.de> Message-ID: Vincent Furia wrote: > Supposedly Hg handles binaries just fine: > http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/CvsConcepts#Binary_files Quoting from there: > For most binary files, this is very wasteful. That's what I meant. All the version control systems I know can't really handle binary diffs very well. It's okay if you only want to store binary files, but if they change often, the diffs aren't very efficient and are wasting space. Again, I don't really expect this to be much of a problem here. bye, Dirk From vfuria at gmail.com Thu Oct 14 02:44:06 2010 From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 00:44:06 -0600 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Graphics (was: Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead) In-Reply-To: References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> <1286823821.3468.11.camel@roccivic-pc> <1286911149.2336.102.camel@roccivic-pc> <017001cb6a58$944f91a0$bceeb4e0$@net> <1286956752.1989.7.camel@roccivic-pc> <001801cb6ad6$da12c580$8e385080$@net> <74CE540D-2D12-4EC4-ADC6-605BF01D177B@haun-online.de> Message-ID: I a bit more reading later... Mercurial handles diffs between binary files fine, but not very efficiently with compressed files (like just about every image format). But I agree with Dirk, it should be fine for the small files we're talking about. -Vinny On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 23:59, Dirk Haun wrote: > Vincent Furia wrote: > > > Supposedly Hg handles binaries just fine: > > http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/CvsConcepts#Binary_files > > Quoting from there: > > > For most binary files, this is very wasteful. > > That's what I meant. All the version control systems I know can't really > handle binary diffs very well. It's okay if you only want to store binary > files, but if they change often, the diffs aren't very efficient and are > wasting space. > > Again, I don't really expect this to be much of a problem here. > > bye, Dirk > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rouslan at placella.com Thu Oct 14 05:49:07 2010 From: rouslan at placella.com (Rouslan Placella) Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 04:49:07 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Graphics (was: Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead) Message-ID: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> Quoting Tom : > Rouslan > > I guess it depends on the type of problem. Why don't you post the issues > here and if we need to we can move it to another venue. > > Dirk/Rouslan > > I am not sure what the best tool for this but should we have some sort of > repository for the source graphic files? > > Tom I propose for the source files to be in SVG format. I guess I am suggesting this mostly because I already have most icons in this format and I also have already started tracing the logo in this format. There are opensource applications for editing and rendering SVG, too (E.g.: Inkscape, which is available for Win, Linux and Mac and others). SVG is plaintext - so it won't be a problem with the version control. Rouslan From komma at ivywe.co.jp Sat Oct 16 02:08:47 2010 From: komma at ivywe.co.jp (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOiM2cEUvO1IbKEJAR2Vla2xvZyBJdnlXZQ==?=) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:08:47 +0900 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1 In-Reply-To: References: <6841D8DB-9B99-4ECA-99E7-4C9EB9229374@haun-online.de> <05f101cb4890$7b8fe730$72afb590$@net> Message-ID: > Anything else that should go into this version? I want group mode that user can set. Now Admin Group Default Group and User Group ... User can set group ON/OFF. bye, Ivy From komma at ivywe.co.jp Sat Oct 16 02:16:28 2010 From: komma at ivywe.co.jp (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOiM2cEUvO1IbKEJAR2Vla2xvZyBJdnlXZQ==?=) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 15:16:28 +0900 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead In-Reply-To: <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> Message-ID: Tom, > I wouldn't mind for 1.8.0 to update the professional theme and get rid of > all those tables. I have been planning to check out the updated professional > theme called ProfessionalCSS_en from geeklog.jp with the idea of using it: > > http://www.geeklog.net/filemgmt/index.php/1011 > > I would like to keep the professional theme (the updated one) as the default > for all Geeklog installs since it makes a good base for creating new themes. Thanks! ProfessionalCSS_en for Geeklog 1.7.1 is now available for download. http://www.geeklog.jp/downloads/index.php/file_procss_en_for_1.7.1 bye, Ivy From dirk at haun-online.de Sat Oct 16 13:42:41 2010 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 19:42:41 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Graphics In-Reply-To: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> Message-ID: <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> Okay, I've set up a new artwork repository: http://project.geeklog.net/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/artwork/ Right now, it only contains the Geeklog logo in 3 formats (PNG, PSD, EPS). We should probably add an "icons" directory, with subdirectories for the "command & control" and topic icons. I need to collect the copyright information for those first. bye, Dirk From dirk at haun-online.de Sat Oct 16 14:59:45 2010 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sat, 16 Oct 2010 20:59:45 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Vacation Message-ID: <9B80C88A-7922-49D3-9E59-F6F16D2AAF1A@haun-online.de> FYI, I'll be on vacation starting tomorrow. Email should work but I won't be on IRC and may not bother visiting geeklog.net. I should have a few days before the end of the month to finish the 1.7.1 release process (already got a few translation updates that I haven't checked in), so keep on testing ... @Vinny: See you in Sunnyvale :) bye, Dirk From rouslan at placella.com Sun Oct 17 06:48:25 2010 From: rouslan at placella.com (Rouslan Placella) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 11:48:25 +0100 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Graphics In-Reply-To: <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> Message-ID: <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> I wonder which licenses are OK and which ones aren't? For the work that I'm doing: I used some "tango" icons, they are public domain. I also used some icons from "gnome-icon-theme", these are GPLv2. I took inspiration for some icons from Ubuntu's Humanity theme, also GPLv2. For the icons that I drew myself I don't care. Rouslan On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 19:42 +0200, Dirk Haun wrote: > Okay, I've set up a new artwork repository: > > http://project.geeklog.net/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/artwork/ > > Right now, it only contains the Geeklog logo in 3 formats (PNG, PSD, EPS). > > We should probably add an "icons" directory, with subdirectories for the "command & control" and topic icons. I need to collect the copyright information for those first. > > bye, Dirk > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel From vfuria at gmail.com Sun Oct 17 11:05:14 2010 From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 09:05:14 -0600 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Graphics In-Reply-To: <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> Message-ID: Here is the list of licenses I'd suggest: OK Licenses: GPLv2 or v3, LGPLv2 or v3 Pubic Domain (not really a license...) Creative Commons (Share a like only) Apache Any other GPL compatible license Not OK Licenses: Creative Commons (any license with non-commercial) Most commercial licenses Not sure about: Creative Commons (attribute licenses) Other licenses that require attribution You're welcome to license you're work any way you'd like. (Geeklog is all GPLv20.) -Vinny On Sun, Oct 17, 2010 at 04:48, Rouslan Placella wrote: > I wonder which licenses are OK and which ones aren't? > > For the work that I'm doing: > I used some "tango" icons, they are public domain. > I also used some icons from "gnome-icon-theme", these are GPLv2. > I took inspiration for some icons from Ubuntu's Humanity theme, also > GPLv2. > For the icons that I drew myself I don't care. > > Rouslan > > On Sat, 2010-10-16 at 19:42 +0200, Dirk Haun wrote: > > Okay, I've set up a new artwork repository: > > > > http://project.geeklog.net/cgi-bin/hgwebdir.cgi/artwork/ > > > > Right now, it only contains the Geeklog logo in 3 formats (PNG, PSD, > EPS). > > > > We should probably add an "icons" directory, with subdirectories for the > "command & control" and topic icons. I need to collect the copyright > information for those first. > > > > bye, Dirk > > > > _______________________________________________ > > geeklog-devel mailing list > > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From rouslan at placella.com Sun Oct 17 12:20:16 2010 From: rouslan at placella.com (Rouslan Placella) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 17:20:16 +0100 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Graphics In-Reply-To: References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> Message-ID: <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> I have put together the results of the work that I did so far into a file. Of course this is not finished, but I would like to receive some early feedback on this. I tested this over a clean install of Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 and it installs fine. Not sure about compatibility with other versions. Of course, no guarantees for anything :) In the archive you will find: * README Explains how to get the install script running * install.sh a script that installs the new graphics and moves/deletes some of the original graphics (this requires a linux computer or SSH access to one) * install.steps a more or less human readable file that describes the steps the take place if you run the install.sh file (and those that should, but do not take place) * sources.tar.gz contains source graphics, including the logo (vector files) * graphics.tar.gz raster files (some don't have a source file) * patches.tar.gz some patches that are required to account for files being moved or deleted by the install script * geeklog-logo.png high resolution geeklog logo. similar to the one that Dirk posted the link to a while ago here on the mailing list, but the alpha channel problem is fixed in this one. Here's the link for the download: http://www.placella.com/gl/geeklog.new.graphics.tar.gz Let me know what you think. Rouslan From websitemaster at cogeco.net Sun Oct 17 16:01:35 2010 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2010 16:01:35 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Graphics In-Reply-To: <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> Message-ID: <001001cb6e36$19e0bfc0$4da23f40$@net> Cool, I will check it out this week. Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Rouslan Placella Sent: October-17-10 12:20 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Graphics I have put together the results of the work that I did so far into a file. Of course this is not finished, but I would like to receive some early feedback on this. I tested this over a clean install of Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 and it installs fine. Not sure about compatibility with other versions. Of course, no guarantees for anything :) In the archive you will find: * README Explains how to get the install script running * install.sh a script that installs the new graphics and moves/deletes some of the original graphics (this requires a linux computer or SSH access to one) * install.steps a more or less human readable file that describes the steps the take place if you run the install.sh file (and those that should, but do not take place) * sources.tar.gz contains source graphics, including the logo (vector files) * graphics.tar.gz raster files (some don't have a source file) * patches.tar.gz some patches that are required to account for files being moved or deleted by the install script * geeklog-logo.png high resolution geeklog logo. similar to the one that Dirk posted the link to a while ago here on the mailing list, but the alpha channel problem is fixed in this one. Here's the link for the download: http://www.placella.com/gl/geeklog.new.graphics.tar.gz Let me know what you think. Rouslan _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5539 (20101017) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5539 (20101017) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From cordiste at free.fr Mon Oct 18 04:50:11 2010 From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste) Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2010 10:50:11 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Graphics In-Reply-To: <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> Message-ID: I installed the icons pack on a demo site. Very nice start. Thanks, Ben 2010/10/17 Rouslan Placella : > I have put together the results of the work that I did so far into a > file. Of course this is not finished, but I would like to receive some > early feedback on this. > > I tested this over a clean install of Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 and it installs > fine. Not sure about compatibility with other versions. Of course, no > guarantees for anything :) > > In the archive you will find: > * README > ?Explains how to get the install script running > > * install.sh > ?a script that installs the new graphics and > ?moves/deletes some of the original graphics > ?(this requires a linux computer or SSH access to one) > > * install.steps > ?a more or less human readable file that describes > ?the steps the take place if you run the install.sh file > ?(and those that should, but do not take place) > > * sources.tar.gz > ?contains source graphics, including the logo (vector files) > > * graphics.tar.gz > ?raster files (some don't have a source file) > > * patches.tar.gz > ?some patches that are required to account for files > ?being moved or deleted by the install script > > * geeklog-logo.png > ?high resolution geeklog logo. similar to the one that Dirk posted > ?the link to a while ago here on the mailing list, but the alpha > ?channel problem is fixed in this one. > > Here's the link for the download: > http://www.placella.com/gl/geeklog.new.graphics.tar.gz > > Let me know what you think. > > Rouslan > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > From websitemaster at cogeco.net Tue Oct 19 13:29:13 2010 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 13:29:13 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Graphics In-Reply-To: <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> Message-ID: <012e01cb6fb3$25fd7db0$71f87910$@net> Hey Rouslan Your icons look great. It will be nice to have a consistent look to the graphics when you get finished. Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Rouslan Placella Sent: October-17-10 12:20 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Graphics I have put together the results of the work that I did so far into a file. Of course this is not finished, but I would like to receive some early feedback on this. I tested this over a clean install of Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 and it installs fine. Not sure about compatibility with other versions. Of course, no guarantees for anything :) In the archive you will find: * README Explains how to get the install script running * install.sh a script that installs the new graphics and moves/deletes some of the original graphics (this requires a linux computer or SSH access to one) * install.steps a more or less human readable file that describes the steps the take place if you run the install.sh file (and those that should, but do not take place) * sources.tar.gz contains source graphics, including the logo (vector files) * graphics.tar.gz raster files (some don't have a source file) * patches.tar.gz some patches that are required to account for files being moved or deleted by the install script * geeklog-logo.png high resolution geeklog logo. similar to the one that Dirk posted the link to a while ago here on the mailing list, but the alpha channel problem is fixed in this one. Here's the link for the download: http://www.placella.com/gl/geeklog.new.graphics.tar.gz Let me know what you think. Rouslan _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5539 (20101017) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5546 (20101019) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From rouslan at placella.com Tue Oct 19 17:11:44 2010 From: rouslan at placella.com (Rouslan Placella) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 22:11:44 +0100 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Graphics In-Reply-To: <012e01cb6fb3$25fd7db0$71f87910$@net> References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> <012e01cb6fb3$25fd7db0$71f87910$@net> Message-ID: <1287522704.2650.0.camel@roccivic-pc> Hi Tom, I don't understand what you mean. Could you please rephrase this? Rouslan On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 13:29 -0400, Tom wrote: > Hey Rouslan > > Your icons look great. It will be nice to have a consistent look to the > graphics when you get finished. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Rouslan > Placella > Sent: October-17-10 12:20 PM > To: Geeklog Development > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Graphics > > I have put together the results of the work that I did so far into a > file. Of course this is not finished, but I would like to receive some > early feedback on this. > > I tested this over a clean install of Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 and it installs > fine. Not sure about compatibility with other versions. Of course, no > guarantees for anything :) > > In the archive you will find: > * README > Explains how to get the install script running > > * install.sh > a script that installs the new graphics and > moves/deletes some of the original graphics > (this requires a linux computer or SSH access to one) > > * install.steps > a more or less human readable file that describes > the steps the take place if you run the install.sh file > (and those that should, but do not take place) > > * sources.tar.gz > contains source graphics, including the logo (vector files) > > * graphics.tar.gz > raster files (some don't have a source file) > > * patches.tar.gz > some patches that are required to account for files > being moved or deleted by the install script > > * geeklog-logo.png > high resolution geeklog logo. similar to the one that Dirk posted > the link to a while ago here on the mailing list, but the alpha > channel problem is fixed in this one. > > Here's the link for the download: > http://www.placella.com/gl/geeklog.new.graphics.tar.gz > > Let me know what you think. > > Rouslan > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5539 (20101017) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5546 (20101019) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel From websitemaster at cogeco.net Tue Oct 19 17:24:52 2010 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Tue, 19 Oct 2010 17:24:52 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Graphics In-Reply-To: <1287522704.2650.0.camel@roccivic-pc> References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> <012e01cb6fb3$25fd7db0$71f87910$@net> <1287522704.2650.0.camel@roccivic-pc> Message-ID: <015b01cb6fd4$132a24b0$397e6e10$@net> Hi Rouslan I meant it will be nice when all of the icons match in terms of color pallet, shadows, etc. Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Rouslan Placella Sent: October-19-10 5:12 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Graphics Hi Tom, I don't understand what you mean. Could you please rephrase this? Rouslan On Tue, 2010-10-19 at 13:29 -0400, Tom wrote: > Hey Rouslan > > Your icons look great. It will be nice to have a consistent look to the > graphics when you get finished. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Rouslan > Placella > Sent: October-17-10 12:20 PM > To: Geeklog Development > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Graphics > > I have put together the results of the work that I did so far into a > file. Of course this is not finished, but I would like to receive some > early feedback on this. > > I tested this over a clean install of Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 and it installs > fine. Not sure about compatibility with other versions. Of course, no > guarantees for anything :) > > In the archive you will find: > * README > Explains how to get the install script running > > * install.sh > a script that installs the new graphics and > moves/deletes some of the original graphics > (this requires a linux computer or SSH access to one) > > * install.steps > a more or less human readable file that describes > the steps the take place if you run the install.sh file > (and those that should, but do not take place) > > * sources.tar.gz > contains source graphics, including the logo (vector files) > > * graphics.tar.gz > raster files (some don't have a source file) > > * patches.tar.gz > some patches that are required to account for files > being moved or deleted by the install script > > * geeklog-logo.png > high resolution geeklog logo. similar to the one that Dirk posted > the link to a while ago here on the mailing list, but the alpha > channel problem is fixed in this one. > > Here's the link for the download: > http://www.placella.com/gl/geeklog.new.graphics.tar.gz > > Let me know what you think. > > Rouslan > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5539 (20101017) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5546 (20101019) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5546 (20101019) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5546 (20101019) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca Fri Oct 22 20:23:44 2010 From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko) Date: Fri, 22 Oct 2010 20:23:44 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] MSSQL Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F38358E@nex-pluto.nextide.ca> I posted a small fix to the mssql db layer. I'm on a project that is using the mssql db layer and found a small bug that has been in there since day 1 in the describe approximation routine. The stored procedure was fine -- it was the php code that had the issue. Not sure how many people may be using the mssql abstraction layer, but nevertheless, for 99% of those out there, this fix probably wouldn't affect any normal functioning Geeklog sites unless for whatever reason you're using the "describe" db function. -randy From komma at ivywe.co.jp Sat Oct 23 03:05:31 2010 From: komma at ivywe.co.jp (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOiM2cEUvO1IbKEJAR2Vla2xvZyBJdnlXZQ==?=) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 16:05:31 +0900 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead In-Reply-To: References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> Message-ID: I wrote wiki iPhone and iPad theme ' Toutch ' by @im_ltd. http://wiki.geeklog.jp/index.php/Toutch ex) http://www.geeklog.jp http://tokyo.ocu-yukokai.com http://www.osaka-cu.com/rigakubu/ I hope that we can select theme for iPhone and theme for iPad at configuration panel. [THEME] default theme: professional iPhone( /iPhone/i ) toutch iPad ( /iPad/i ) touch docomo( /^(DoCoMo\/1|DoCoMo\/2)\.0/i ) mobile_xhtml Sotbank( /^(Softbank|J\-PHONE|Vodafone|MOT\-[CV]|Semulator)/i ) mobile_xhtml AU( /(UP\.Browser|KDDI\-)/i ) mobile_xhtml WILLCOM)( /(DDIPOCKET|WILLCOM)/i ) mobile_xhtml Windows CE( /Windows *CE/i ) mobile_xhtml and so on... bye, Ivy From websitemaster at cogeco.net Sat Oct 23 14:15:33 2010 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 14:15:33 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] MSSQL In-Reply-To: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F38358E@nex-pluto.nextide.ca> References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F38358E@nex-pluto.nextide.ca> Message-ID: <015701cb72de$48a65e80$d9f31b80$@net> Thanks Randy. -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Randy Kolenko Sent: October-22-10 8:24 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: [geeklog-devel] MSSQL I posted a small fix to the mssql db layer. I'm on a project that is using the mssql db layer and found a small bug that has been in there since day 1 in the describe approximation routine. The stored procedure was fine -- it was the php code that had the issue. Not sure how many people may be using the mssql abstraction layer, but nevertheless, for 99% of those out there, this fix probably wouldn't affect any normal functioning Geeklog sites unless for whatever reason you're using the "describe" db function. -randy _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5556 (20101022) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5558 (20101023) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From websitemaster at cogeco.net Sat Oct 23 14:55:11 2010 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 14:55:11 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails In-Reply-To: <015b01cb6fd4$132a24b0$397e6e10$@net> References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> <012e01cb6fb3$25fd7db0$71f87910$@net> <1287522704.2650.0.camel@roccivic-pc> <015b01cb6fd4$132a24b0$397e6e10$@net> Message-ID: <015d01cb72e3$d2016300$76042900$@net> Okay the OAuth hack is pretty much in place. Two things 1. How do we want to handle accounts without passwords? I was thinking of removing the password fields (and check) on the form "My Account -> Username & Password" for any user that doesn't have a remoteservice of NULL and passwd of '' in the users table. Will this work for the other login methods like OpenID, 3rdParty (livejournal, LDAP)? 2. Some User login methods do not give us the users email address. I will add in a check on the profile page so other users cannot send them an email. Anything else needed here? Thanks Tom __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5558 (20101023) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From dirk at haun-online.de Sat Oct 23 17:14:29 2010 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 14:14:29 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails In-Reply-To: <015d01cb72e3$d2016300$76042900$@net> References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> <012e01cb6fb3$25fd7db0$71f87910$@net> <1287522704.2650.0.camel@roccivic-pc> <015b01cb6fd4$132a24b0$397e6e10$@net> <015d01cb72e3$d2016300$76042900$@net> Message-ID: Yes, the My Account page really has some issues with remote accounts and I think they're the same issues with all kinds of remote services. For example, when it asks for your password to change a setting (like how long to stay logged in) it's not checking the remote password but the - non-existing - local one. In fact, I think there's already an issue about this on the bugtracker. Greetings from the GSoC mentor summit :) bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ Am 23.10.2010 um 11:55 schrieb "Tom" : > Okay the OAuth hack is pretty much in place. > > Two things > > 1. How do we want to handle accounts without passwords? > > I was thinking of removing the password fields (and check) on the form "My > Account -> Username & Password" for any user that doesn't have a > remoteservice of NULL and passwd of '' in the users table. Will this work > for the other login methods like OpenID, 3rdParty (livejournal, LDAP)? > > > > 2. Some User login methods do not give us the users email address. > > I will add in a check on the profile page so other users cannot send them an > email. Anything else needed here? > > Thanks > > Tom > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5558 (20101023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel From cordiste at free.fr Sat Oct 23 17:49:22 2010 From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 23:49:22 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails In-Reply-To: References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> <012e01cb6fb3$25fd7db0$71f87910$@net> <1287522704.2650.0.camel@roccivic-pc> <015b01cb6fd4$132a24b0$397e6e10$@net> <015d01cb72e3$d2016300$76042900$@net> Message-ID: @ Tom Thanks for this nice coming feature. @ Dirk, Bring us some pictures. We would like to see some mentors :) Ben 2010/10/23 Dirk Haun : > Yes, the My Account page really has some issues with remote accounts and I think they're the same issues with all kinds of remote services. For example, when it asks for your password to change a setting (like how long to stay logged in) it's not checking the remote password but the - non-existing - local one. > > In fact, I think there's already an issue about this on the bugtracker. > > Greetings from the GSoC mentor summit :) > > bye, Dirk > > -- > http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ > > Am 23.10.2010 um 11:55 schrieb "Tom" : > >> Okay the OAuth hack is pretty much in place. >> >> Two things >> >> 1. How do we want to handle accounts without passwords? >> >> I was thinking of removing the password fields (and check) on the form "My >> Account -> Username & Password" for any user that doesn't have a >> remoteservice of NULL and passwd of '' in the users table. Will this work >> for the other login methods like OpenID, 3rdParty (livejournal, LDAP)? >> >> >> >> 2. Some User login methods do not give us the users email address. >> >> I will add in a check on the profile page so other users cannot send them an >> email. Anything else needed here? >> >> Thanks >> >> Tom >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >> database 5558 (20101023) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> geeklog-devel mailing list >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > From vfuria at gmail.com Sat Oct 23 18:16:18 2010 From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 16:16:18 -0600 Subject: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails In-Reply-To: References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> <012e01cb6fb3$25fd7db0$71f87910$@net> <1287522704.2650.0.camel@roccivic-pc> <015b01cb6fd4$132a24b0$397e6e10$@net> <015d01cb72e3$d2016300$76042900$@net> Message-ID: We're not supposed to take pictures inside Google. But I plan to take a few pics tonight at the "pool party". -Vinny On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 15:49, cordiste wrote: > @ Tom > > Thanks for this nice coming feature. > > @ Dirk, > > Bring us some pictures. We would like to see some mentors :) > > Ben > > 2010/10/23 Dirk Haun : > > Yes, the My Account page really has some issues with remote accounts and > I think they're the same issues with all kinds of remote services. For > example, when it asks for your password to change a setting (like how long > to stay logged in) it's not checking the remote password but the - > non-existing - local one. > > > > In fact, I think there's already an issue about this on the bugtracker. > > > > Greetings from the GSoC mentor summit :) > > > > bye, Dirk > > > > -- > > http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ > > > > Am 23.10.2010 um 11:55 schrieb "Tom" : > > > >> Okay the OAuth hack is pretty much in place. > >> > >> Two things > >> > >> 1. How do we want to handle accounts without passwords? > >> > >> I was thinking of removing the password fields (and check) on the form > "My > >> Account -> Username & Password" for any user that doesn't have a > >> remoteservice of NULL and passwd of '' in the users table. Will this > work > >> for the other login methods like OpenID, 3rdParty (livejournal, LDAP)? > >> > >> > >> > >> 2. Some User login methods do not give us the users email address. > >> > >> I will add in a check on the profile page so other users cannot send > them an > >> email. 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URL: From dirk at haun-online.de Sat Oct 23 20:58:34 2010 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 17:58:34 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails In-Reply-To: References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> <012e01cb6fb3$25fd7db0$71f87910$@net> <1287522704.2650.0.camel@roccivic-pc> <015b01cb6fd4$132a24b0$397e6e10$@net> <015d01cb72e3$d2016300$76042900$@net> Message-ID: <3749E46C-D13D-4E72-B043-849985B06EB3@haun-online.de> Here's a picture outside Google. The weather's not on our side this year ... http://www.flickr.com/photos/dhaun/ Am 23.10.2010 um 15:16 schrieb Vincent Furia : > We're not supposed to take pictures inside Google. But I plan to take a few pics tonight at the "pool party". > > -Vinny > > On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 15:49, cordiste wrote: > @ Tom > > Thanks for this nice coming feature. > > @ Dirk, > > Bring us some pictures. We would like to see some mentors :) > > Ben > > 2010/10/23 Dirk Haun : > > Yes, the My Account page really has some issues with remote accounts and I think they're the same issues with all kinds of remote services. For example, when it asks for your password to change a setting (like how long to stay logged in) it's not checking the remote password but the - non-existing - local one. > > > > In fact, I think there's already an issue about this on the bugtracker. > > > > Greetings from the GSoC mentor summit :) > > > > bye, Dirk > > > > -- > > http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ > > > > Am 23.10.2010 um 11:55 schrieb "Tom" : > > > >> Okay the OAuth hack is pretty much in place. > >> > >> Two things > >> > >> 1. How do we want to handle accounts without passwords? > >> > >> I was thinking of removing the password fields (and check) on the form "My > >> Account -> Username & Password" for any user that doesn't have a > >> remoteservice of NULL and passwd of '' in the users table. Will this work > >> for the other login methods like OpenID, 3rdParty (livejournal, LDAP)? > >> > >> > >> > >> 2. Some User login methods do not give us the users email address. > >> > >> I will add in a check on the profile page so other users cannot send them an > >> email. Anything else needed here? > >> > >> Thanks > >> > >> Tom > >> > >> > >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > >> database 5558 (20101023) __________ > >> > >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > >> > >> http://www.eset.com > >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> geeklog-devel mailing list > >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > _______________________________________________ > > geeklog-devel mailing list > > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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The weather's not on our side this year ... > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/dhaun/ > > > Am 23.10.2010 um 15:16 schrieb Vincent Furia : > >> We're not supposed to take pictures inside Google. But I plan to take a few pics tonight at the "pool party". >> >> -Vinny >> >> On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 15:49, cordiste wrote: >> @ Tom >> >> Thanks for this nice coming feature. >> >> @ Dirk, >> >> Bring us some pictures. We would like to see some mentors :) >> >> Ben >> >> 2010/10/23 Dirk Haun : >> > Yes, the My Account page really has some issues with remote accounts and I think they're the same issues with all kinds of remote services. For example, when it asks for your password to change a setting (like how long to stay logged in) it's not checking the remote password but the - non-existing - local one. >> > >> > In fact, I think there's already an issue about this on the bugtracker. >> > >> > Greetings from the GSoC mentor summit :) >> > >> > bye, Dirk >> > >> > -- >> > http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ >> > >> > Am 23.10.2010 um 11:55 schrieb "Tom" : >> > >> >> Okay the OAuth hack is pretty much in place. >> >> >> >> Two things >> >> >> >> 1. How do we want to handle accounts without passwords? >> >> >> >> I was thinking of removing the password fields (and check) on the form "My >> >> Account -> Username & Password" for any user that doesn't have a >> >> remoteservice of NULL and passwd of '' in the users table. Will this work >> >> for the other login methods like OpenID, 3rdParty (livejournal, LDAP)? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2. Some User login methods do not give us the users email address. >> >> >> >> I will add in a check on the profile page so other users cannot send them an >> >> email. Anything else needed here? >> >> >> >> Thanks >> >> >> >> Tom >> >> >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature >> >> database 5558 (20101023) __________ >> >> >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> geeklog-devel mailing list >> >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net >> >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel >> > _______________________________________________ >> > geeklog-devel mailing list >> > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net >> > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel >> > >> > >> _______________________________________________ >> geeklog-devel mailing list >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> geeklog-devel mailing list >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From dirk at haun-online.de Sat Oct 23 21:25:38 2010 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 18:25:38 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-devel] MSSQL In-Reply-To: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F38358E@nex-pluto.nextide.ca> References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F38358E@nex-pluto.nextide.ca> Message-ID: <924ECBF0-7602-44BB-83E1-AF94F19BB3DB@haun-online.de> Thanks, Randy. Btw, I didn't see an email for this commit on the geeklog-cvs mailing list. Can you please double check that you've set up your .hgrc file on the server? Please refer to the Trust and Notification part in the Using Mercurial article on the wiki. Now, I had a few of my own commits not triggering an email recently due to the mailing list being "temporarily unavailable", according to the message I got when pushing. This happened a tad too often recently for my tastes. So can everybody please keep an eye on this and if it continues to happen, I may have to talk to pair.com about it. bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ Am 22.10.2010 um 17:23 schrieb "Randy Kolenko" : > I posted a small fix to the mssql db layer. I'm on a project that is > using the mssql db layer and found a small bug that has been in there > since day 1 in the describe approximation routine. The stored procedure > was fine -- it was the php code that had the issue. Not sure how many > people may be using the mssql abstraction layer, but nevertheless, for > 99% of those out there, this fix probably wouldn't affect any normal > functioning Geeklog sites unless for whatever reason you're using the > "describe" db function. > > -randy > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel From dirk at haun-online.de Sun Oct 24 01:10:41 2010 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 22:10:41 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead In-Reply-To: References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> Message-ID: Am 23.10.2010 um 00:05 schrieb ????@Geeklog IvyWe : > I hope that we can select theme for iPhone and theme for iPad at > configuration panel. > > > [THEME] > > default theme: professional > > > iPhone( /iPhone/i ) toutch > iPad ( /iPad/i ) touch > docomo( /^(DoCoMo\/1|DoCoMo\/2)\.0/i ) mobile_xhtml > Sotbank( /^(Softbank|J\-PHONE|Vodafone|MOT\-[CV]|Semulator)/i ) mobile_xhtml > AU( /(UP\.Browser|KDDI\-)/i ) mobile_xhtml > WILLCOM)( /(DDIPOCKET|WILLCOM)/i ) mobile_xhtml > Windows CE( /Windows *CE/i ) mobile_xhtml > and so on... Yes, I think we should have something like this. I'm just not sure if doing it with user-defined regexps is the best way. But from the examples it looks like it's a bit more complicated than just grepping for "iPhone". Does anyone have an idea how other systems handle this? bye, Dirk From komma at ivywe.co.jp Sun Oct 24 03:20:13 2010 From: komma at ivywe.co.jp (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCOiM2cEUvO1IbKEJAR2Vla2xvZyBJdnlXZQ==?=) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 16:20:13 +0900 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.1rc1 & looking ahead In-Reply-To: References: <2646277B-B53F-4611-9E9A-ABD27F818119@haun-online.de> <00c001cb694b$eb485180$c1d8f480$@net> Message-ID: I think Version(Backup SQL restore) support is usefull. Version ... restore backup sql http://sns.geeklog.jp/img.php?filename=dc_20840_1_1287856234.png (concrete5) bye, Ivy From websitemaster at cogeco.net Sun Oct 24 21:31:05 2010 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 21:31:05 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails In-Reply-To: References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> <012e01cb6fb3$25fd7db0$71f87910$@net> <1287522704.2650.0.camel@roccivic-pc> <015b01cb6fd4$132a24b0$397e6e10$@net> <015d01cb72e3$d2016300$76042900$@net> Message-ID: <01c601cb73e4$4acf2be0$e06d83a0$@net> I checked the bug tracker and didn't see anything mentioned. Anyways, for remote accounts then I will remove the 3 password fields from My Account Username & password tab. I will add in a check that confirms the remote login for remember me and the email. Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun Sent: October-23-10 5:14 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails Yes, the My Account page really has some issues with remote accounts and I think they're the same issues with all kinds of remote services. For example, when it asks for your password to change a setting (like how long to stay logged in) it's not checking the remote password but the - non-existing - local one. In fact, I think there's already an issue about this on the bugtracker. Greetings from the GSoC mentor summit :) bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ Am 23.10.2010 um 11:55 schrieb "Tom" : > Okay the OAuth hack is pretty much in place. > > Two things > > 1. How do we want to handle accounts without passwords? > > I was thinking of removing the password fields (and check) on the form "My > Account -> Username & Password" for any user that doesn't have a > remoteservice of NULL and passwd of '' in the users table. Will this work > for the other login methods like OpenID, 3rdParty (livejournal, LDAP)? > > > > 2. Some User login methods do not give us the users email address. > > I will add in a check on the profile page so other users cannot send them an > email. Anything else needed here? > > Thanks > > Tom > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5558 (20101023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5558 (20101023) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5558 (20101023) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5560 (20101024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5560 (20101024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From dirk at haun-online.de Sun Oct 24 22:41:17 2010 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 19:41:17 -0700 Subject: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails In-Reply-To: <01c601cb73e4$4acf2be0$e06d83a0$@net> References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> <012e01cb6fb3$25fd7db0$71f87910$@net> <1287522704.2650.0.camel@roccivic-pc> <015b01cb6fd4$132a24b0$397e6e10$@net> <015d01cb72e3$d2016300$76042900$@net> <01c601cb73e4$4acf2be0$e06d83a0$@net> Message-ID: <8806BCF4-B5C0-4283-9EF2-6EAC1408454A@haun-online.de> Ah, sorry, it's actually on the wiki (but should really be a bug report): http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Future_Plans#Clean_up_Remote_Authentication bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ Am 24.10.2010 um 18:31 schrieb "Tom" : > I checked the bug tracker and didn't see anything mentioned. > > Anyways, for remote accounts then I will remove the 3 password fields from > My Account Username & password tab. I will add in a check that confirms the > remote login for remember me and the email. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun > Sent: October-23-10 5:14 PM > To: Geeklog Development > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails > > Yes, the My Account page really has some issues with remote accounts and I > think they're the same issues with all kinds of remote services. For > example, when it asks for your password to change a setting (like how long > to stay logged in) it's not checking the remote password but the - > non-existing - local one. > > In fact, I think there's already an issue about this on the bugtracker. > > Greetings from the GSoC mentor summit :) > > bye, Dirk > > -- > http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ > > Am 23.10.2010 um 11:55 schrieb "Tom" : > >> Okay the OAuth hack is pretty much in place. >> >> Two things >> >> 1. How do we want to handle accounts without passwords? >> >> I was thinking of removing the password fields (and check) on the form "My >> Account -> Username & Password" for any user that doesn't have a >> remoteservice of NULL and passwd of '' in the users table. Will this work >> for the other login methods like OpenID, 3rdParty (livejournal, LDAP)? >> >> >> >> 2. Some User login methods do not give us the users email address. >> >> I will add in a check on the profile page so other users cannot send them > an >> email. Anything else needed here? >> >> Thanks >> >> Tom >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature >> database 5558 (20101023) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> geeklog-devel mailing list >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5558 (20101023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5558 (20101023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5560 (20101024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5560 (20101024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel From websitemaster at cogeco.net Mon Oct 25 08:49:35 2010 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2010 08:49:35 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails In-Reply-To: <8806BCF4-B5C0-4283-9EF2-6EAC1408454A@haun-online.de> References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> <012e01cb6fb3$25fd7db0$71f87910$@net> <1287522704.2650.0.camel@roccivic-pc> <015b01cb6fd4$132a24b0$397e6e10$@net> <015d01cb72e3$d2016300$76042900$@net> <01c601cb73e4$4acf2be0$e06d83a0$@net> <8806BCF4-B5C0-4283-9EF2-6EAC1408454A@haun-online.de> Message-ID: <01db01cb7443$14025880$3c070980$@net> Thanks Dirk. Looking over the list I had thought about re-syncing the data before. Would it make sense then to add a check box (instead of the password fields) for remote accounts sync and then when the user hits save, and the checkbox is checked, then revaluate the login and update the information (along with remember me). Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun Sent: October-24-10 10:41 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails Ah, sorry, it's actually on the wiki (but should really be a bug report): http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Future_Plans#Clean_up_Remote_Authenticatio n bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ Am 24.10.2010 um 18:31 schrieb "Tom" : > I checked the bug tracker and didn't see anything mentioned. > > Anyways, for remote accounts then I will remove the 3 password fields from > My Account Username & password tab. I will add in a check that confirms the > remote login for remember me and the email. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun > Sent: October-23-10 5:14 PM > To: Geeklog Development > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails > > Yes, the My Account page really has some issues with remote accounts and I > think they're the same issues with all kinds of remote services. For > example, when it asks for your password to change a setting (like how long > to stay logged in) it's not checking the remote password but the - > non-existing - local one. > > In fact, I think there's already an issue about this on the bugtracker. > > Greetings from the GSoC mentor summit :) > > bye, Dirk > > -- > http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ > > Am 23.10.2010 um 11:55 schrieb "Tom" : > >> Okay the OAuth hack is pretty much in place. >> >> Two things >> >> 1. How do we want to handle accounts without passwords? >> >> I was thinking of removing the password fields (and check) on the form "My >> Account -> Username & Password" for any user that doesn't have a >> remoteservice of NULL and passwd of '' in the users table. Will this work >> for the other login methods like OpenID, 3rdParty (livejournal, LDAP)? >> >> >> >> 2. Some User login methods do not give us the users email address. >> >> I will add in a check on the profile page so other users cannot send them > an >> email. Anything else needed here? >> >> Thanks >> >> Tom >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature >> database 5558 (20101023) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> geeklog-devel mailing list >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5558 (20101023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5558 (20101023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5560 (20101024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5560 (20101024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5560 (20101024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5560 (20101024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5561 (20101025) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5561 (20101025) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From websitemaster at cogeco.net Wed Oct 27 09:57:25 2010 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 09:57:25 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] OpenID & OAuth Support In-Reply-To: <01db01cb7443$14025880$3c070980$@net> References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> <012e01cb6fb3$25fd7db0$71f87910$@net> <1287522704.2650.0.camel@roccivic-pc> <015b01cb6fd4$132a24b0$397e6e10$@net> <015d01cb72e3$d2016300$76042900$@net> <01c601cb73e4$4acf2be0$e06d83a0$@net> <8806BCF4-B5C0-4283-9EF2-6EAC1408454A@haun-online.de> <01db01cb7443$14025880$3c070980$@net> Message-ID: <00ed01cb75de$e2ac6710$a8053530$@net> I have been setting up resynching for OAuth and wanted to look at the other remote login methods. I tried to get my Google OpenID account to log into Geeklog but I get a "Unable to find an OpenID server for the given identity URL." message. I haven't really looked into the OpenID side of things yet, does Google just support OpenID 2.0? Also what is the state of the GSOC 2009 OpenID 2 project? http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_full_openid_support If I have to rewrite some code here to get resynch to work, I might as well merge the OpenID 2.0 project if it is almost finished. Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: October-25-10 8:50 AM To: 'Geeklog Development' Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails Thanks Dirk. Looking over the list I had thought about re-syncing the data before. Would it make sense then to add a check box (instead of the password fields) for remote accounts sync and then when the user hits save, and the checkbox is checked, then revaluate the login and update the information (along with remember me). Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun Sent: October-24-10 10:41 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails Ah, sorry, it's actually on the wiki (but should really be a bug report): http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Future_Plans#Clean_up_Remote_Authenticatio n bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ Am 24.10.2010 um 18:31 schrieb "Tom" : > I checked the bug tracker and didn't see anything mentioned. > > Anyways, for remote accounts then I will remove the 3 password fields from > My Account Username & password tab. I will add in a check that confirms the > remote login for remember me and the email. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun > Sent: October-23-10 5:14 PM > To: Geeklog Development > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails > > Yes, the My Account page really has some issues with remote accounts and I > think they're the same issues with all kinds of remote services. For > example, when it asks for your password to change a setting (like how long > to stay logged in) it's not checking the remote password but the - > non-existing - local one. > > In fact, I think there's already an issue about this on the bugtracker. > > Greetings from the GSoC mentor summit :) > > bye, Dirk > > -- > http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ > > Am 23.10.2010 um 11:55 schrieb "Tom" : > >> Okay the OAuth hack is pretty much in place. >> >> Two things >> >> 1. How do we want to handle accounts without passwords? >> >> I was thinking of removing the password fields (and check) on the form "My >> Account -> Username & Password" for any user that doesn't have a >> remoteservice of NULL and passwd of '' in the users table. Will this work >> for the other login methods like OpenID, 3rdParty (livejournal, LDAP)? >> >> >> >> 2. Some User login methods do not give us the users email address. >> >> I will add in a check on the profile page so other users cannot send them > an >> email. Anything else needed here? >> >> Thanks >> >> Tom >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature >> database 5558 (20101023) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> geeklog-devel mailing list >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5558 (20101023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5558 (20101023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5560 (20101024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5560 (20101024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5560 (20101024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5560 (20101024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5561 (20101025) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5561 (20101025) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5561 (20101025) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5561 (20101025) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5567 (20101027) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5567 (20101027) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From rouslan at placella.com Wed Oct 27 13:28:30 2010 From: rouslan at placella.com (Rouslan Placella) Date: Wed, 27 Oct 2010 12:28:30 -0500 Subject: [geeklog-devel] OpenID & OAuth Support In-Reply-To: <00ed01cb75de$e2ac6710$a8053530$@net> References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> <012e01cb6fb3$25fd7db0$71f87910$@net> <1287522704.2650.0.camel@roccivic-pc> <015b01cb6fd4$132a24b0$397e6e10$@net> <015d01cb72e3$d2016300$76042900$@net> <01c601cb73e4$4acf2be0$e06d83a0$@net> <8806BCF4-B5C0-4283-9EF2-6EAC1408454A@haun-online.de> <01db01cb7443$14025880$3c070980$@net> <00ed01cb75de$e2ac6710$a8053530$@net> Message-ID: <20101027122830.zwua2myk004c4cw4@webmail.opentransfer.com> As I was interested in OpenId, I remember asking Dirk about this. He said that it's done and just missing Geeklog integration. The student that was working on this project disappeared. Rouslan Quoting Tom : > I have been setting up resynching for OAuth and wanted to look at the other > remote login methods. > > I tried to get my Google OpenID account to log into Geeklog but I get a > "Unable to find an OpenID server for the given identity URL." message. I > haven't really looked into the OpenID side of things yet, does Google just > support OpenID 2.0? > > Also what is the state of the GSOC 2009 OpenID 2 project? > > http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_full_openid_support > > If I have to rewrite some code here to get resynch to work, I might as well > merge the OpenID 2.0 project if it is almost finished. > > Tom > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Tom > Sent: October-25-10 8:50 AM > To: 'Geeklog Development' > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails > > Thanks Dirk. Looking over the list I had thought about re-syncing the data > before. Would it make sense then to add a check box (instead of the password > fields) for remote accounts sync and then when the user hits save, and the > checkbox is checked, then revaluate the login and update the information > (along with remember me). > > Tom > > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun > Sent: October-24-10 10:41 PM > To: Geeklog Development > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails > > Ah, sorry, it's actually on the wiki (but should really be a bug report): > > http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Future_Plans#Clean_up_Remote_Authenticatio > n > > bye, Dirk > > -- > http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ > > Am 24.10.2010 um 18:31 schrieb "Tom" : > >> I checked the bug tracker and didn't see anything mentioned. >> >> Anyways, for remote accounts then I will remove the 3 password fields from >> My Account Username & password tab. I will add in a check that confirms > the >> remote login for remember me and the email. >> >> Tom >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net >> [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun >> Sent: October-23-10 5:14 PM >> To: Geeklog Development >> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails >> >> Yes, the My Account page really has some issues with remote accounts and I >> think they're the same issues with all kinds of remote services. For >> example, when it asks for your password to change a setting (like how long >> to stay logged in) it's not checking the remote password but the - >> non-existing - local one. >> >> In fact, I think there's already an issue about this on the bugtracker. >> >> Greetings from the GSoC mentor summit :) >> >> bye, Dirk >> >> -- >> http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ >> >> Am 23.10.2010 um 11:55 schrieb "Tom" : >> >>> Okay the OAuth hack is pretty much in place. >>> >>> Two things >>> >>> 1. How do we want to handle accounts without passwords? >>> >>> I was thinking of removing the password fields (and check) on the form > "My >>> Account -> Username & Password" for any user that doesn't have a >>> remoteservice of NULL and passwd of '' in the users table. Will this work >>> for the other login methods like OpenID, 3rdParty (livejournal, LDAP)? >>> >>> >>> >>> 2. Some User login methods do not give us the users email address. >>> >>> I will add in a check on the profile page so other users cannot send them >> an >>> email. Anything else needed here? >>> >>> Thanks >>> >>> Tom >>> >>> >>> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus >> signature >>> database 5558 (20101023) __________ >>> >>> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >>> >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> geeklog-devel mailing list >>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net >>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel >> _______________________________________________ >> geeklog-devel mailing list >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature >> database 5558 (20101023) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature >> database 5558 (20101023) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature >> database 5560 (20101024) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature >> database 5560 (20101024) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> geeklog-devel mailing list >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5560 (20101024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5560 (20101024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5561 (20101025) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5561 (20101025) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5561 (20101025) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5561 (20101025) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5567 (20101027) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5567 (20101027) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > From websitemaster at cogeco.net Thu Oct 28 21:20:03 2010 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 21:20:03 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] OpenID & OAuth Support In-Reply-To: <00ed01cb75de$e2ac6710$a8053530$@net> References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> <012e01cb6fb3$25fd7db0$71f87910$@net> <1287522704.2650.0.camel@roccivic-pc> <015b01cb6fd4$132a24b0$397e6e10$@net> <015d01cb72e3$d2016300$76042900$@net> <01c601cb73e4$4acf2be0$e06d83a0$@net> <88 <00ed01cb75de$e2ac6710$a8053530$@net> Message-ID: <009601cb7707$69a3ccd0$3ceb6670$@net> To answer my own question, Google uses OpenID 2. I talked to Randy about the current state of the GSOC 2009 OpenID 2.0 project. No Geeklog integration has been done with the stand alone library that was created. So for now I am leaving OpenID 2.0 alone and the other Remote 3rd party login methods as well (ie no re authentication or re-synching of data on the My Account form, though the password fields have been removed for remote accounts). Re-synching of OAuth is for the most part working. Re-authenticating for remember me and email is not. The problem with remote services is to authenticate I would have to store temporarily the changed values. I would then request authentication and then when the remote service visits the callback url, retrieve the changed values and apply if authentication was successful. Also currently in the remoteservice column of the users table, the OAuth class saves the name of its remote service as facebook, twitter or linkedin. It doesn't mention OAuth and conceivably we could get duplications if there is more than one way to access your facebook account. Should I add a column for remote service type? For example remoteservice would then become oauth and then remoteservicetype would become facebook Or would storing it as oauth.facebook in just the remoteservice column be okay and then anything before a period would be considered the remote service and if needed, anything after as the type? I think adding a second column would be best. Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: October-27-10 9:57 AM To: 'Geeklog Development' Subject: [geeklog-devel] OpenID & OAuth Support I have been setting up resynching for OAuth and wanted to look at the other remote login methods. I tried to get my Google OpenID account to log into Geeklog but I get a "Unable to find an OpenID server for the given identity URL." message. I haven't really looked into the OpenID side of things yet, does Google just support OpenID 2.0? Also what is the state of the GSOC 2009 OpenID 2 project? http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_full_openid_support If I have to rewrite some code here to get resynch to work, I might as well merge the OpenID 2.0 project if it is almost finished. Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: October-25-10 8:50 AM To: 'Geeklog Development' Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails Thanks Dirk. Looking over the list I had thought about re-syncing the data before. Would it make sense then to add a check box (instead of the password fields) for remote accounts sync and then when the user hits save, and the checkbox is checked, then revaluate the login and update the information (along with remember me). Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun Sent: October-24-10 10:41 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails Ah, sorry, it's actually on the wiki (but should really be a bug report): http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Future_Plans#Clean_up_Remote_Authenticatio n bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ Am 24.10.2010 um 18:31 schrieb "Tom" : > I checked the bug tracker and didn't see anything mentioned. > > Anyways, for remote accounts then I will remove the 3 password fields from > My Account Username & password tab. I will add in a check that confirms the > remote login for remember me and the email. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun > Sent: October-23-10 5:14 PM > To: Geeklog Development > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails > > Yes, the My Account page really has some issues with remote accounts and I > think they're the same issues with all kinds of remote services. For > example, when it asks for your password to change a setting (like how long > to stay logged in) it's not checking the remote password but the - > non-existing - local one. > > In fact, I think there's already an issue about this on the bugtracker. > > Greetings from the GSoC mentor summit :) > > bye, Dirk > > -- > http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ > > Am 23.10.2010 um 11:55 schrieb "Tom" : > >> Okay the OAuth hack is pretty much in place. >> >> Two things >> >> 1. How do we want to handle accounts without passwords? >> >> I was thinking of removing the password fields (and check) on the form "My >> Account -> Username & Password" for any user that doesn't have a >> remoteservice of NULL and passwd of '' in the users table. Will this work >> for the other login methods like OpenID, 3rdParty (livejournal, LDAP)? >> >> >> >> 2. Some User login methods do not give us the users email address. >> >> I will add in a check on the profile page so other users cannot send them > an >> email. Anything else needed here? >> >> Thanks >> >> Tom >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature >> database 5558 (20101023) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> geeklog-devel mailing list >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5558 (20101023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5558 (20101023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5560 (20101024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5560 (20101024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5560 (20101024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5560 (20101024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5561 (20101025) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5561 (20101025) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5561 (20101025) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5561 (20101025) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5567 (20101027) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5567 (20101027) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5567 (20101027) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5567 (20101027) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5568 (20101027) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5569 (20101027) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5573 (20101028) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5573 (20101028) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From websitemaster at cogeco.net Thu Oct 28 21:23:54 2010 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 21:23:54 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] OpenID & OAuth Support In-Reply-To: <00ed01cb75de$e2ac6710$a8053530$@net> References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> <012e01cb6fb3$25fd7db0$71f87910$@net> <1287522704.2650.0.camel@roccivic-pc> <015b01cb6fd4$132a24b0$397e6e10$@net> <015d01cb72e3$d2016300$76042900$@net> <01c601cb73e4$4acf2be0$e06d83a0$@net> <88 <00ed01cb75de$e2ac6710$a8053530$@net> Message-ID: <009c01cb7707$f37b6da0$da7248e0$@net> To answer my own question, Google uses OpenID 2. I talked to Randy about the current state of the GSOC 2009 OpenID 2.0 project. No Geeklog integration has been done with the stand alone library that was created. So for now I am leaving OpenID 2.0 alone and the other Remote 3rd party login methods as well (ie no re authentication or re-synching of data on the My Account form, though the password fields have been removed for remote accounts). Re-synching of OAuth is for the most part working. Re-authenticating for remember me and email is not. The problem with remote services is to authenticate I would have to store temporarily the changed values. I would then request authentication and then when the remote service visits the callback url, retrieve the changed values and apply if authentication was successful. Also currently in the remoteservice column of the users table, the OAuth class saves the name of its remote service as facebook, twitter or linkedin. It doesn't mention OAuth and conceivably we could get duplications if there is more than one way to access your facebook account. Should I add a column for remote service type? For example remoteservice would then become oauth and then remoteservicetype would become facebook Or would storing it as oauth.facebook in just the remoteservice column be okay and then anything before a period would be considered the remote service and if needed, anything after as the type? I think adding a second column would be best. Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: October-27-10 9:57 AM To: 'Geeklog Development' Subject: [geeklog-devel] OpenID & OAuth Support I have been setting up resynching for OAuth and wanted to look at the other remote login methods. I tried to get my Google OpenID account to log into Geeklog but I get a "Unable to find an OpenID server for the given identity URL." message. I haven't really looked into the OpenID side of things yet, does Google just support OpenID 2.0? Also what is the state of the GSOC 2009 OpenID 2 project? http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_full_openid_support If I have to rewrite some code here to get resynch to work, I might as well merge the OpenID 2.0 project if it is almost finished. Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: October-25-10 8:50 AM To: 'Geeklog Development' Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails Thanks Dirk. Looking over the list I had thought about re-syncing the data before. Would it make sense then to add a check box (instead of the password fields) for remote accounts sync and then when the user hits save, and the checkbox is checked, then revaluate the login and update the information (along with remember me). Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun Sent: October-24-10 10:41 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails Ah, sorry, it's actually on the wiki (but should really be a bug report): http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Future_Plans#Clean_up_Remote_Authenticatio n bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ Am 24.10.2010 um 18:31 schrieb "Tom" : > I checked the bug tracker and didn't see anything mentioned. > > Anyways, for remote accounts then I will remove the 3 password fields from > My Account Username & password tab. I will add in a check that confirms the > remote login for remember me and the email. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun > Sent: October-23-10 5:14 PM > To: Geeklog Development > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails > > Yes, the My Account page really has some issues with remote accounts and I > think they're the same issues with all kinds of remote services. For > example, when it asks for your password to change a setting (like how long > to stay logged in) it's not checking the remote password but the - > non-existing - local one. > > In fact, I think there's already an issue about this on the bugtracker. > > Greetings from the GSoC mentor summit :) > > bye, Dirk > > -- > http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ > > Am 23.10.2010 um 11:55 schrieb "Tom" : > >> Okay the OAuth hack is pretty much in place. >> >> Two things >> >> 1. How do we want to handle accounts without passwords? >> >> I was thinking of removing the password fields (and check) on the form "My >> Account -> Username & Password" for any user that doesn't have a >> remoteservice of NULL and passwd of '' in the users table. Will this work >> for the other login methods like OpenID, 3rdParty (livejournal, LDAP)? >> >> >> >> 2. Some User login methods do not give us the users email address. >> >> I will add in a check on the profile page so other users cannot send them > an >> email. Anything else needed here? >> >> Thanks >> >> Tom >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature >> database 5558 (20101023) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> geeklog-devel mailing list >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5558 (20101023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5558 (20101023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5560 (20101024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5560 (20101024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5560 (20101024) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5573 (20101028) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From dirk at haun-online.de Fri Oct 29 13:09:02 2010 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 19:09:02 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Google Code-in: Tasks and Mentors wanted! Message-ID: We are going to apply for participation in the Google Code-in[1]. For those who haven't heard of it yet, this is the equivalent of GSoC for students between age 13-18 (formerly known as GHOP). As usual, Google provides an extensive FAQ[2]. Here's a quick summary: Google Code-in focuses on smaller tasks that can usually be done in a few hours or days. Tasks are rated easy, medium, and hard and can be from 8 categories: Code, documentation, outreach, QA, research, training, translation, user interface. So unlike GSoC, this is not restricted to coding. Points are given based on how hard a task is. Due to the complications of paying minors, Google Code-in has the form of a contest: A student can claim a task. For every 3 completed tasks the student gets $100, up to a maximum of $500 (i.e. 15 tasks). Above that, there will also be some grand prices winners who collect the most points (students can complete more than 15 tasks). As a participating organisation, we would have to provide a list of tasks (the more the better!) and mentors. Our task list is under heavy construction here: http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Google_Code-in Additions welcome! We seem to be missing "hard" tasks at the moment, as well as those from categories like training, user interface, outreach, and also research (but any additions are welcome). Please see the notes about Adding Tasks at the top of the page. Also, we could need some more mentors. So far, only Vinny, Cordiste, and myself have signed up. I think this would be a good opportunity for some of our former GSoC students to try their hands on mentoring: Pick a task or two and see how you like mentoring a student. Who knows, you may want to become a GSoC mentor next year [standard disclaimer: should Google decide to run GSoC again, etc. pp.] So, who's in? bye, Dirk [1] http://code.google.com/opensource/gci/2010-11/ [2] http://code.google.com/opensource/gci/2010-11/faqs.html From dirk at haun-online.de Fri Oct 29 14:06:01 2010 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2010 20:06:01 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Google Code-in: Tasks and Mentors wanted! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > Our task list is under heavy construction here: > > http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Google_Code-in Vlad just reminded me: I forgot to mention that this could also include tasks that get our GSoC projects closer to release. Testing the new features can go under "QA", for example. bye, Dirk From jmucchiello at yahoo.com Sat Oct 30 05:22:56 2010 From: jmucchiello at yahoo.com (Joe Mucchiello) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 02:22:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [geeklog-devel] Google Code-in: Tasks and Mentors wanted! Message-ID: <227173.60572.qm@web31408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Looking over the suggestions: >Find a replacement for kses Isn't this already solved? http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1084 >Convert the Geeklog Documentation to XHTML Isn't the Internet moving HTML5 instead? >Collect Information about Encryption Algorithms for Passwords Um, change it to SHA1 (built in to PHP) and add some salt. The real trick to this task is making the change. You probably need to add a field to gl_users that is "false". When false, the old password mechanism is used and then the password is changed to the new method and the field set to true. When true of course you use the new method. Joe From dirk at haun-online.de Sat Oct 30 07:00:22 2010 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 13:00:22 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Google Code-in: Tasks and Mentors wanted! In-Reply-To: <227173.60572.qm@web31408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <227173.60572.qm@web31408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <2DBC586C-0163-477D-A69D-ED219167838C@haun-online.de> Joe Mucchiello wrote: >> Find a replacement for kses > Isn't this already solved? Says who? >> Convert the Geeklog Documentation to XHTML > Isn't the Internet moving HTML5 instead? Or XHTML5. Neither of which is a standard yet. It's not a very important task, but having the docs in XHTML would allow us easy conversion to anything we want later on. And we could parse it with an XML parser, which may (or may not) come in handy. >> Collect Information about Encryption Algorithms for Passwords > Um, change it to SHA1 (built in to PHP) and add some salt. The real trick > to this task is making the change. Just skimming the Wikipedia article on SHA1: > In light of the results for SHA-0, some experts suggested that plans for the use of SHA-1 in new cryptosystems should be reconsidered. I doubt anyone here is up to date on the discussion in the security community. Which is why this is a research task. It isn't supposed to make the decision for us, but to provide us with information so we have something to base our decision on. The actual switch is the easy part. bye, Dirk From websitemaster at cogeco.net Sat Oct 30 09:25:53 2010 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 09:25:53 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] OpenID & OAuth Support In-Reply-To: <00ed01cb75de$e2ac6710$a8053530$@net> References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> <012e01cb6fb3$25fd7db0$71f87910$@net> <1287522704.2650.0.camel@roccivic-pc> <015b01cb6fd4$132a24b0$397e6e10$@net> <015d01cb72e3$d2016300$76042900$@net> <01c601cb73e4$4acf2be0$e06d83a0$@net> <88 <00ed01cb75de$e2ac6710$a8053530$@net> Message-ID: <00fc01cb7835$f9ff77a0$edfe66e0$@net> To answer my own question, Google uses OpenID 2. I talked to Randy about the current state of the GSOC 2009 OpenID 2.0 project. No Geeklog integration has been done with the stand alone library that was created. So for now I am leaving OpenID 2.0 alone and the other Remote 3rd party login methods as well (ie no re authentication or re-synching of data on the My Account form, though the password fields have been removed for remote accounts). Re-synching of OAuth is for the most part working. Re-authenticating for remember me and email is not. The problem with remote services is to authenticate I would have to store temporarily the changed values. I would then request authentication and then when the remote service visits the callback url, retrieve the changed values and apply if authentication was successful. Also currently in the remoteservice column of the users table, the OAuth class saves the name of its remote service as facebook, twitter or linkedin. It doesn't mention OAuth and conceivably we could get duplications if there is more than one way to access ... say your facebook account. I think I will add a column for remote service type. For example remoteservice would then become oauth and then remoteservicetype would become facebook Or would storing it as oauth.facebook in just the remoteservice column be okay and then anything before a period would be considered the remote service and if needed, anything after as the type? I think adding a second column would be best... Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: October-27-10 9:57 AM To: 'Geeklog Development' Subject: [geeklog-devel] OpenID & OAuth Support I have been setting up resynching for OAuth and wanted to look at the other remote login methods. I tried to get my Google OpenID account to log into Geeklog but I get a "Unable to find an OpenID server for the given identity URL." message. I haven't really looked into the OpenID side of things yet, does Google just support OpenID 2.0? Also what is the state of the GSOC 2009 OpenID 2 project? http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_full_openid_support If I have to rewrite some code here to get resynch to work, I might as well merge the OpenID 2.0 project if it is almost finished. Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: October-25-10 8:50 AM To: 'Geeklog Development' Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails Thanks Dirk. Looking over the list I had thought about re-syncing the data before. Would it make sense then to add a check box (instead of the password fields) for remote accounts sync and then when the user hits save, and the checkbox is checked, then revaluate the login and update the information (along with remember me). Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun Sent: October-24-10 10:41 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails Ah, sorry, it's actually on the wiki (but should really be a bug report): http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Future_Plans#Clean_up_Remote_Authenticatio n bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ Am 24.10.2010 um 18:31 schrieb "Tom" : > I checked the bug tracker and didn't see anything mentioned. > > Anyways, for remote accounts then I will remove the 3 password fields from > My Account Username & password tab. I will add in a check that confirms the > remote login for remember me and the email. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun > Sent: October-23-10 5:14 PM > To: Geeklog Development > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails > > Yes, the My Account page really has some issues with remote accounts and I > think they're the same issues with all kinds of remote services. For > example, when it asks for your password to change a setting (like how long > to stay logged in) it's not checking the remote password but the - > non-existing - local one. > > In fact, I think there's already an issue about this on the bugtracker. > > Greetings from the GSoC mentor summit :) > > bye, Dirk > > -- > http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ > > Am 23.10.2010 um 11:55 schrieb "Tom" : > >> Okay the OAuth hack is pretty much in place. >> >> Two things >> >> 1. How do we want to handle accounts without passwords? >> >> I was thinking of removing the password fields (and check) on the form "My >> Account -> Username & Password" for any user that doesn't have a >> remoteservice of NULL and passwd of '' in the users table. Will this work >> for the other login methods like OpenID, 3rdParty (livejournal, LDAP)? >> >> >> >> 2. Some User login methods do not give us the users email address. >> >> I will add in a check on the profile page so other users cannot send them > an >> email. Anything else needed here? >> >> Thanks >> >> Tom >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature >> database 5558 (20101023) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> geeklog-devel mailing list >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5558 (20101023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5558 (20101023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > 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[geeklog-devel] Remote Services References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> <012e01cb6fb3$25fd7db0$71f87910$@net> <1287522704.2650.0.camel@roccivic-pc> <015b01cb6fd4$132a24b0$397e6e10$@net> <015d01cb72e3$d2016300$76042900$@net> <01c601cb73e4$4acf2be0$e06d83a0$@net> <88 Message-ID: <00ff01cb7836$46008f40$d201adc0$@net> To answer my own question, Google uses OpenID 2. I talked to Randy about the current state of the GSOC 2009 OpenID 2.0 project. No Geeklog integration has been done with the stand alone library that was created. So for now I am leaving OpenID 2.0 alone and the other Remote 3rd party login methods as well (ie no re authentication or re-synching of data on the My Account form, though the password fields have been removed for remote accounts). Re-synching of OAuth is for the most part working. Re-authenticating for remember me and email is not. The problem with remote services is to authenticate I would have to store temporarily the changed values. I would then request authentication and then when the remote service visits the callback url, retrieve the changed values and apply if authentication was successful. Also currently in the remoteservice column of the users table, the OAuth class saves the name of its remote service as facebook, twitter or linkedin. It doesn't mention OAuth and conceivably we could get duplications if there is more than one way to access ... say your facebook account. I think I will add a column for remote service type. For example remoteservice would then become oauth and then remoteservicetype would become facebook Or would storing it as oauth.facebook in just the remoteservice column be okay and then anything before a period would be considered the remote service and if needed, anything after as the type? I think adding a second column would be best... Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: October-27-10 9:57 AM To: 'Geeklog Development' Subject: [geeklog-devel] OpenID & OAuth Support I have been setting up resynching for OAuth and wanted to look at the other remote login methods. I tried to get my Google OpenID account to log into Geeklog but I get a "Unable to find an OpenID server for the given identity URL." message. I haven't really looked into the OpenID side of things yet, does Google just support OpenID 2.0? Also what is the state of the GSOC 2009 OpenID 2 project? http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_full_openid_support If I have to rewrite some code here to get resynch to work, I might as well merge the OpenID 2.0 project if it is almost finished. Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Tom Sent: October-25-10 8:50 AM To: 'Geeklog Development' Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails Thanks Dirk. Looking over the list I had thought about re-syncing the data before. Would it make sense then to add a check box (instead of the password fields) for remote accounts sync and then when the user hits save, and the checkbox is checked, then revaluate the login and update the information (along with remember me). Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun Sent: October-24-10 10:41 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails Ah, sorry, it's actually on the wiki (but should really be a bug report): http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Future_Plans#Clean_up_Remote_Authenticatio n bye, Dirk -- http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ Am 24.10.2010 um 18:31 schrieb "Tom" : > I checked the bug tracker and didn't see anything mentioned. > > Anyways, for remote accounts then I will remove the 3 password fields from > My Account Username & password tab. I will add in a check that confirms the > remote login for remember me and the email. > > Tom > > -----Original Message----- > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun > Sent: October-23-10 5:14 PM > To: Geeklog Development > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] OAuth Support - Passwords and Emails > > Yes, the My Account page really has some issues with remote accounts and I > think they're the same issues with all kinds of remote services. For > example, when it asks for your password to change a setting (like how long > to stay logged in) it's not checking the remote password but the - > non-existing - local one. > > In fact, I think there's already an issue about this on the bugtracker. > > Greetings from the GSoC mentor summit :) > > bye, Dirk > > -- > http://www.themobilepresenter.com/ > > Am 23.10.2010 um 11:55 schrieb "Tom" : > >> Okay the OAuth hack is pretty much in place. >> >> Two things >> >> 1. How do we want to handle accounts without passwords? >> >> I was thinking of removing the password fields (and check) on the form "My >> Account -> Username & Password" for any user that doesn't have a >> remoteservice of NULL and passwd of '' in the users table. Will this work >> for the other login methods like OpenID, 3rdParty (livejournal, LDAP)? >> >> >> >> 2. Some User login methods do not give us the users email address. >> >> I will add in a check on the profile page so other users cannot send them > an >> email. Anything else needed here? >> >> Thanks >> >> Tom >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature >> database 5558 (20101023) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> geeklog-devel mailing list >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5558 (20101023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5558 (20101023) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5560 (20101024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature > database 5560 (20101024) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > http://www.eset.com > > > _______________________________________________ > geeklog-devel mailing list > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel From dirk at haun-online.de Sat Oct 30 14:19:47 2010 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 20:19:47 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Google Code-in: Tasks and Mentors wanted! In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8676BC7E-A679-49C2-9591-305E5C38ECBF@haun-online.de> > Our task list is under heavy construction here: > > http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Google_Code-in > > Additions welcome! I added some rough statistics. Surprisingly, there don't seem to be a lot of "User Interface" tasks. Wouldn't this be an excellent opportunity to address some of our theme / layout / graphics issues? More ideas for Outreach and Training are also welcome. Finding "hard" tasks turned out to be hard - many things I could think of would also take a lot of time ... bye, Dirk From jmucchiello at yahoo.com Sat Oct 30 14:43:08 2010 From: jmucchiello at yahoo.com (Joe Mucchiello) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 11:43:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [geeklog-devel] Google Code-in: Tasks and Mentors wanted! Message-ID: <453780.94431.qm@web31401.mail.mud.yahoo.com> > Joe Mucchiello wrote: > >>> Find a replacement for kses >> Isn't this already solved? > > Says who? I don't think you are going to find a better solution than htmlawed. It is a drop in replacement for kses. It is still being developed (as far as I know). It works with the existing config options. And there is a patch. What more do you need? Perhaps if that were articulated someone could find a solution. >>> Collect Information about Encryption Algorithms for Passwords >> Um, change it to SHA1 (built in to PHP) and add some salt. The real >> trick >> to this task is making the change. > > Just skimming the Wikipedia article on SHA1: > >> In light of the results for SHA-0, some experts suggested that plans for >> the use of SHA-1 in new cryptosystems should be reconsidered. As I understand it, SHA-1 is only broken for long term use - digitally signing a mortgage document, for example. SHA-1 is only damaged. It is not cracked. For short term hashing, it is still usable. > I doubt anyone here is up to date on the discussion in the security > community. Which is why this is a research task. It isn't supposed to make > the decision for us, but to provide us with information so we have > something to base our decision on. Well, I try to stay up to date. The real flaw with Geeklog's password hash is no salt. That makes it vulnerable to dictionary attacks. Eliminating that flaw is the first minimal step. As long as the salt is unpredictable and different for each user you eliminate known value attacks. (Someone logs in, sets their password to something, then attacks the hash to find the salt.) From websitemaster at cogeco.net Sat Oct 30 15:27:48 2010 From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 15:27:48 -0400 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Google Code-in: Tasks and Mentors wanted! In-Reply-To: <8676BC7E-A679-49C2-9591-305E5C38ECBF@haun-online.de> References: <8676BC7E-A679-49C2-9591-305E5C38ECBF@haun-online.de> Message-ID: <011201cb7868$894bf6e0$9be3e4a0$@net> I actually started to write some "User Interface" tasks but was running into a few questions of my own (since we haven't yet discussed as a whole what changes we want to see). I do think some basic changes are warranted at the moment and are probably best for the students (most of these ideas are borrowed from other CMS websites). A new centerblock frontpage staticpage (or at least a mock up) is needed that better describes what we are about with some graphics that fit within the professional theme. New Information Pages that would be linked probably from the top menu (most of this is just flushing out the resources block). Here are a few ideas - Getting Started Page - What the average user needs to start using Geeklog and where to find it - Community Page - How to find the community and support - Documentation - A list of all documentation, install guides, etc.. (maybe a link directly to the wiki?) - Development - How to get involved in development, reporting bugs, etc... - Marketplace - http://www.geeklog.net/staticpages/index.php/paid-support If I can get some time I will add a few to the task list. Tom -----Original Message----- From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun Sent: October-30-10 2:20 PM To: Geeklog Development Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Google Code-in: Tasks and Mentors wanted! > Our task list is under heavy construction here: > > http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Google_Code-in > > Additions welcome! I added some rough statistics. Surprisingly, there don't seem to be a lot of "User Interface" tasks. Wouldn't this be an excellent opportunity to address some of our theme / layout / graphics issues? More ideas for Outreach and Training are also welcome. Finding "hard" tasks turned out to be hard - many things I could think of would also take a lot of time ... bye, Dirk _______________________________________________ geeklog-devel mailing list geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5576 (20101029) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 5576 (20101029) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com From dirk at haun-online.de Sat Oct 30 16:06:11 2010 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 22:06:11 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Google Code-in: Tasks and Mentors wanted! In-Reply-To: <011201cb7868$894bf6e0$9be3e4a0$@net> References: <8676BC7E-A679-49C2-9591-305E5C38ECBF@haun-online.de> <011201cb7868$894bf6e0$9be3e4a0$@net> Message-ID: Tom wrote: > I actually started to write some "User Interface" tasks but was running into > a few questions of my own I found that writing tasks forces you to think about what you really want (and dropped a few I started writing when I realized I didn't have a good answer yet). Even if we don't get accepted, we can still make some good use of that list. > A new centerblock frontpage staticpage (or at least a mock up) is needed > that better describes what we are about with some graphics that fit within > the professional theme. > > New Information Pages that would be linked probably from the top menu (most > of this is just flushing out the resources block). Here are a few ideas Those sound like good ideas. bye, Dirk From dirk at haun-online.de Sat Oct 30 16:22:11 2010 From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun) Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 22:22:11 +0200 Subject: [geeklog-devel] Remote Services In-Reply-To: <00ff01cb7836$46008f40$d201adc0$@net> References: <20101014044907.abs5ffjxqzkk8g48@webmail.opentransfer.com> <732B1751-FD6B-482D-A8E2-5DCA85A59921@haun-online.de> <1287312505.4723.9.camel@roccivic-pc> <1287332416.2703.30.camel@roccivic-pc> <012e01cb6fb3$25fd7db0$71f87910$@net> <1287522704.2650.0.camel@roccivic-pc> <015b01cb6fd4$132a24b0$397e6e10$@net> <015d01cb72e3$d2016300$76042900$@net> <01c601cb73e4$4acf2be0$e06d83a0$@net> <88 <00ff01cb7836$46008f40$d201adc0$@net> Message-ID: <47D6D477-2AC2-4B11-AC8A-151FFC841D13@haun-online.de> Tom wrote: > Also currently in the remoteservice column of the users table, the OAuth > class saves the name of its remote service as facebook, twitter or > linkedin. It doesn't mention OAuth Should it? I'd say "don't mention the mechanics". Users want to log in using their Facebook or Twitter account. As long as they can to that, they don't really care if it's using OAuth or some other protocol. > and conceivably we could get duplications > if there is more than one way to access ... say your facebook account. In that case you could still call it FriendConnect (or whatever the name of the other protocol was). That would still be recognized by more people than OAuth. Okay, I just realized that I'm contradicting myself :) I still think we should keep it simple and just wait if the duplication ever happens. bye, Dirk