From dirk at haun-online.de  Mon Mar  1 01:55:12 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2010 07:55:12 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC Student Requirements
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Dharamveer Singh Chouhan wrote:

>Hi, thanks for quick reply, wondering why nobody has yet replied on IRC. May
>be due to different Time zones.

Certainly. Good point, actually: It would be good if more devs would
lurk on IRC over the coming weeks


>P.S.: i need guidance regarding setting up the environment on my machine.

Well, ask away then :)

bye, Dirk


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Tue Mar  2 15:34:05 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 21:34:05 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote
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I haven't seen any new posts regarding a new slogan recently. So from my
understanding, the choice is between "secure" and "safer", correct?

As Euan (I think) wrote: Pretty much any of the suggested slogans is
better than what we have now. With that in mind, let's see some votes
please for the two candidates:

--- snip ---

Geeklog - The secure CMS

Geeklog - The safer CMS

--- snip ---

(In practice, we would use either "CMS" or "Content Management System",
whatever's more appropriate in the given context. But that's not point
of this poll here.)

bye, Dirk


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From yankees26an at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 15:43:56 2010
From: yankees26an at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?4bmoz67isaXItc6v4bmlyp/JkeKImg==?=)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:43:56 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote
In-Reply-To: <20100302203405.1991068863@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <20100205221210.1110474281@smtp.haun-online.de> 
	<20100302203405.1991068863@smtp.haun-online.de>
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I think 'safer' is too subjective. Safer then what? That's why I
prefer 'The secure CMS'. If I had to pick a name I would choose

Geeklog - Secure, Professional CMS

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
> I haven't seen any new posts regarding a new slogan recently. So from my
> understanding, the choice is between "secure" and "safer", correct?
>
> As Euan (I think) wrote: Pretty much any of the suggested slogans is
> better than what we have now. With that in mind, let's see some votes
> please for the two candidates:
>
> --- snip ---
>
> Geeklog - The secure CMS
>
> Geeklog - The safer CMS
>
> --- snip ---
>
> (In practice, we would use either "CMS" or "Content Management System",
> whatever's more appropriate in the given context. But that's not point
> of this poll here.)
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.geeklog.net/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
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>



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From matt.danger.west at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 15:50:12 2010
From: matt.danger.west at gmail.com (Matt West)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:50:12 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote
In-Reply-To: <20100302203405.1991068863@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <20100205221210.1110474281@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<20100302203405.1991068863@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <9EBAD0C5-DB00-4B0E-B341-3801FC277FFC@gmail.com>

Geeklog - The safer CMS


On Mar 2, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Dirk Haun wrote:

> I haven't seen any new posts regarding a new slogan recently. So  
> from my
> understanding, the choice is between "secure" and "safer", correct?
>
> As Euan (I think) wrote: Pretty much any of the suggested slogans is
> better than what we have now. With that in mind, let's see some votes
> please for the two candidates:
>
> --- snip ---
>
> Geeklog - The secure CMS
>
> Geeklog - The safer CMS
>
> --- snip ---
>
> (In practice, we would use either "CMS" or "Content Management  
> System",
> whatever's more appropriate in the given context. But that's not point
> of this poll here.)
>
> bye, Dirk


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From cordiste at free.fr  Tue Mar  2 16:05:49 2010
From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 22:05:49 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote
In-Reply-To: <9EBAD0C5-DB00-4B0E-B341-3801FC277FFC@gmail.com>
References: <20100205221210.1110474281@smtp.haun-online.de> 
	<20100302203405.1991068863@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<9EBAD0C5-DB00-4B0E-B341-3801FC277FFC@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <364575ed1003021305w415d2c4auabf40e7b540dd950@mail.gmail.com>

Geeklog - The secure CMS

For boys and girls :)

::Ben

2010/3/2 Matt West <matt.danger.west at gmail.com>

> Geeklog - The safer CMS
>
>
>
> On Mar 2, 2010, at 3:34 PM, Dirk Haun wrote:
>
>  I haven't seen any new posts regarding a new slogan recently. So from my
>> understanding, the choice is between "secure" and "safer", correct?
>>
>> As Euan (I think) wrote: Pretty much any of the suggested slogans is
>> better than what we have now. With that in mind, let's see some votes
>> please for the two candidates:
>>
>> --- snip ---
>>
>> Geeklog - The secure CMS
>>
>> Geeklog - The safer CMS
>>
>> --- snip ---
>>
>> (In practice, we would use either "CMS" or "Content Management System",
>> whatever's more appropriate in the given context. But that's not point
>> of this poll here.)
>>
>> bye, Dirk
>>
>
>
> --
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>
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From greg.gillis at sillig.com  Tue Mar  2 16:02:31 2010
From: greg.gillis at sillig.com (Greg Gillis)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 15:02:31 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote
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Safer



On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:

> I haven't seen any new posts regarding a new slogan recently. So from my
> understanding, the choice is between "secure" and "safer", correct?
>
> As Euan (I think) wrote: Pretty much any of the suggested slogans is
> better than what we have now. With that in mind, let's see some votes
> please for the two candidates:
>
> --- snip ---
>
> Geeklog - The secure CMS
>
> Geeklog - The safer CMS
>
> --- snip ---
>
> (In practice, we would use either "CMS" or "Content Management System",
> whatever's more appropriate in the given context. But that's not point
> of this poll here.)
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.geeklog.net/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>



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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Tue Mar  2 16:12:53 2010
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 16:12:53 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote
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The 2 wouldn't be my first choice but I definitely like 

Geeklog - The secure CMS

better than the safer slogan.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun
Sent: March-02-10 3:34 PM
To: geeklog-devel
Subject: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote

I haven't seen any new posts regarding a new slogan recently. So from my
understanding, the choice is between "secure" and "safer", correct?

As Euan (I think) wrote: Pretty much any of the suggested slogans is
better than what we have now. With that in mind, let's see some votes
please for the two candidates:

--- snip ---

Geeklog - The secure CMS

Geeklog - The safer CMS

--- snip ---

(In practice, we would use either "CMS" or "Content Management System",
whatever's more appropriate in the given context. But that's not point
of this poll here.)

bye, Dirk


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From dharamveer.chouhan.cer08 at itbhu.ac.in  Tue Mar  2 16:16:41 2010
From: dharamveer.chouhan.cer08 at itbhu.ac.in (Dharamveer Singh Chouhan)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 02:46:41 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote
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Secure
Dharamveer Singh Chouhan
B.Tech Ceramic Engineering
2nd Year, IT-BHU

I may not be the best, but i am certainly not like the rest


On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net> wrote:

> The 2 wouldn't be my first choice but I definitely like
>
> Geeklog - The secure CMS
>
> better than the safer slogan.
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
> [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun
> Sent: March-02-10 3:34 PM
> To: geeklog-devel
> Subject: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote
>
> I haven't seen any new posts regarding a new slogan recently. So from my
> understanding, the choice is between "secure" and "safer", correct?
>
> As Euan (I think) wrote: Pretty much any of the suggested slogans is
> better than what we have now. With that in mind, let's see some votes
> please for the two candidates:
>
> --- snip ---
>
> Geeklog - The secure CMS
>
> Geeklog - The safer CMS
>
> --- snip ---
>
> (In practice, we would use either "CMS" or "Content Management System",
> whatever's more appropriate in the given context. But that's not point
> of this poll here.)
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.geeklog.net/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
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From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Tue Mar  2 16:17:17 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 16:17:17 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3570D4@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>


> The 2 wouldn't be my first choice but I definitely like


I agree with Tom.  None of the entries evoke anything about what Geeklog
is... or can be or will be...

But since we're voting, I say "secure".  Which when I start thinking
about it, is a loaded statement when we're talking about Socnet
development that turns over effective security to end users... cringe...

-randy






From info at heatherengineering.com  Tue Mar  2 17:13:00 2010
From: info at heatherengineering.com (Euan McKay)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 07:13:00 +0900
Subject: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote
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References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3570D4@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
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I'm with Joe:

> The problem with safer is it doesn't mean anything. Safer than what? Safer FROM what? Secure has a meaning that does not require clarification.

Geeklog - The secure CMS

I think this is a vast improvement on "The ultimate weblog", but if
there is still concern that this is not the right slogan for Geeklog,
perhaps we should keep the door open for final suggestions?

Euan.


On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 06:17, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca> wrote:
>
>> The 2 wouldn't be my first choice but I definitely like
>
>
> I agree with Tom. ?None of the entries evoke anything about what Geeklog
> is... or can be or will be...
>
> But since we're voting, I say "secure". ?Which when I start thinking
> about it, is a loaded statement when we're talking about Socnet
> development that turns over effective security to end users... cringe...
>
> -randy
>
>
>
>
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Tue Mar  2 19:03:44 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 17:03:44 -0700
Subject: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote
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I like: Geeklog - The safer CMS

But lets make the change pretty soon (within 24 hours?) whatever the vote
turns out. Either is a vast improvement over "The ultimate weblog". We can
always update the site again with a new slogan if someone comes up with a
better one.

-Vinny

On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Euan McKay <info at heatherengineering.com>wrote:

> I'm with Joe:
>
> > The problem with safer is it doesn't mean anything. Safer than what?
> Safer FROM what? Secure has a meaning that does not require clarification.
>
> Geeklog - The secure CMS
>
> I think this is a vast improvement on "The ultimate weblog", but if
> there is still concern that this is not the right slogan for Geeklog,
> perhaps we should keep the door open for final suggestions?
>
> Euan.
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 06:17, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca>
> wrote:
> >
> >> The 2 wouldn't be my first choice but I definitely like
> >
> >
> > I agree with Tom.  None of the entries evoke anything about what Geeklog
> > is... or can be or will be...
> >
> > But since we're voting, I say "secure".  Which when I start thinking
> > about it, is a loaded statement when we're talking about Socnet
> > development that turns over effective security to end users... cringe...
> >
> > -randy
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > geeklog-devel mailing list
> > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> >
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From greg.gillis at sillig.com  Tue Mar  2 19:32:41 2010
From: greg.gillis at sillig.com (Greg Gillis)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 18:32:41 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote
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Or rotate both.



On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 3:02 PM, Greg Gillis <greg.gillis at sillig.com> wrote:

> Safer
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 2:34 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
>
>> I haven't seen any new posts regarding a new slogan recently. So from my
>> understanding, the choice is between "secure" and "safer", correct?
>>
>> As Euan (I think) wrote: Pretty much any of the suggested slogans is
>> better than what we have now. With that in mind, let's see some votes
>> please for the two candidates:
>>
>> --- snip ---
>>
>> Geeklog - The secure CMS
>>
>> Geeklog - The safer CMS
>>
>> --- snip ---
>>
>> (In practice, we would use either "CMS" or "Content Management System",
>> whatever's more appropriate in the given context. But that's not point
>> of this poll here.)
>>
>> bye, Dirk
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.geeklog.net/
>> http://geeklog.info/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>
>
>
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From dilantha.tyrant at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 00:38:00 2010
From: dilantha.tyrant at gmail.com (dilantha silva)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 11:08:00 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote
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Hi,

 +1 for Geeklog - The secure CMS..
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From rob.howard at kwfs.info  Tue Mar  2 17:02:29 2010
From: rob.howard at kwfs.info (Rob Howard)
Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 22:02:29 -0000
Subject: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote
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Safer opens too many questions, if your says it's safer, what is it safer
than, and also it means that something could improve on safer, secure holds
less questions.

 

Thanks,

Rob Howard
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From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dharamveer
Singh Chouhan
Sent: 02 March 2010 21:17
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote

 

Secure
Dharamveer Singh Chouhan
B.Tech Ceramic Engineering
2nd Year, IT-BHU

I may not be the best, but i am certainly not like the rest



On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 2:42 AM, Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net> wrote:

The 2 wouldn't be my first choice but I definitely like

Geeklog - The secure CMS

better than the safer slogan.

Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun
Sent: March-02-10 3:34 PM
To: geeklog-devel
Subject: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote

I haven't seen any new posts regarding a new slogan recently. So from my
understanding, the choice is between "secure" and "safer", correct?

As Euan (I think) wrote: Pretty much any of the suggested slogans is
better than what we have now. With that in mind, let's see some votes
please for the two candidates:

--- snip ---

Geeklog - The secure CMS

Geeklog - The safer CMS

--- snip ---

(In practice, we would use either "CMS" or "Content Management System",
whatever's more appropriate in the given context. But that's not point
of this poll here.)

bye, Dirk


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Mar  3 01:53:37 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 07:53:37 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote
In-Reply-To: <8319e2d61003021603k275d8afdme816d4ceef9694e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3570D4@nex-pluto.nextide.ca> 
	<db993b421003021413k85c6860j5699263ed736acd9@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <20100303065337.427888870@smtp.haun-online.de>

Vincent Furia wrote:

>But lets make the change pretty soon (within 24 hours?)

I wanted to have it in place by the time we apply for GSoC, i.e. next week.

bye, Dirk


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From suprsidr at flashyourweb.com  Wed Mar  3 10:05:39 2010
From: suprsidr at flashyourweb.com (Wayne Patterson)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 09:05:39 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] geeklog-devel Digest, Vol 39, Issue 4
In-Reply-To: <mailman.8.1267628403.14745.geeklog-devel@lists.geeklog.net>
References: <mailman.8.1267628403.14745.geeklog-devel@lists.geeklog.net>
Message-ID: <31838b391003030705n4582d715vb76cd2a289b84c79@mail.gmail.com>

Geeklog - Your Content Secured

On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:00 AM, <geeklog-devel-request at lists.geeklog.net>wrote:

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> Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 07:53:37 +0100
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote
> Vincent Furia wrote:
>
> >But lets make the change pretty soon (within 24 hours?)
>
> I wanted to have it in place by the time we apply for GSoC, i.e. next week.
>
> bye, Dirk
>
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From bijolianabhi at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 14:48:25 2010
From: bijolianabhi at gmail.com (Abhinav Chittora)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 01:18:25 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Project Idea: Google Apps integration...
Message-ID: <a5f686091003031148g61d8970ev3aacac50cd144064@mail.gmail.com>

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Hello folks,

As we know that Google apps are very common for many business site and
organizations. If we will Include Google Apps feature then geeklog
will be better. I have talked to Vincent Furia and according to him
calender plug in does not require any external service. but we can add
sync. feature with Google calender.

My personal opinion is " we can add more functionality by integrating
Google Apps in geeklog." Since wgeeklog is a Blog engine so we can
provide facility to get personal mail box, chating, contacts, and many
things by integrating Google apps."

I would like to discuss it more. and willing to get feedback on this
topic. let me know what you think on this topic.

- -with Regards,
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From bijolianabhi at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 15:39:29 2010
From: bijolianabhi at gmail.com (Abhinav Chittora)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 02:09:29 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 Project idea: WYSWYG Editor for geeklog.
Message-ID: <a5f686091003031239y465f2e8di4001cbf440703b17@mail.gmail.com>

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Hello folks,
I have another idea to improve geeklog, we can add WYSWYG editor "
What you see what you get editor." although geeklog have html
rendering but including WYSWYG editor we can get better content
writing experience.

I would love to do this project. Just want to discuss. Is this project
okey for Google Summer of Code 2010.

Discussions are welcomed.

- -with Regards,
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Mar  3 15:57:16 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:57:16 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 Project idea: WYSWYG Editor for
 geeklog.
In-Reply-To: <a5f686091003031239y465f2e8di4001cbf440703b17@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a5f686091003031239y465f2e8di4001cbf440703b17@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100303205716.2081229074@smtp.haun-online.de>

Abhinav Chittora wrote:

>I have another idea to improve geeklog, we can add WYSWYG editor "

Sorry to disappoint you, but Geeklog already ships with a WYSIWYG editor
(FCKEditor).

It's disabled by default, though, and the option is somewhat hidden:

    Configuration > Geeklog > Users and Submissions > Submission
Settings > Advanced Editor?

bye, Dirk


-- 
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http://geeklog.info/



From bijolianabhi at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 16:24:35 2010
From: bijolianabhi at gmail.com (Abhinav Chittora)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 02:54:35 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 Project idea: WYSWYG Editor for
	geeklog.
In-Reply-To: <20100303205716.2081229074@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <a5f686091003031239y465f2e8di4001cbf440703b17@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100303205716.2081229074@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <a5f686091003031324v7dd0c542w84b8c04734cff7a4@mail.gmail.com>

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Hello Dirk,

Thanks for pointing to that. But may be there is some bugs. When I am
trying to enable advance Editor as you told me, It gets but when
trying to create content such that static page.. there is no WYSWYS
editor, I still have to use [bold] to write bold and so on..
let me know the issue..



- -with Regards,
           \\\///
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               (_/
Google Summer of Code Student for Xiph.org, 2009
Student, Engineering College Bikaner
Sent from Bikaner, Rajasthan, India



On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Dirk Haun  wrote:

>
> Sorry to disappoint you, but Geeklog already ships with a WYSIWYG editor
> (FCKEditor).
>
> It's disabled by default, though, and the option is somewhat hidden:
>
>    Configuration > Geeklog > Users and Submissions > Submission
> Settings > Advanced Editor?
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.geeklog.net/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
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From rob.howard at kwfs.info  Wed Mar  3 16:48:52 2010
From: rob.howard at kwfs.info (Rob Howard)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 21:48:52 -0000
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 Project idea: WYSWYG Editor
	for	geeklog.
In-Reply-To: <a5f686091003031324v7dd0c542w84b8c04734cff7a4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a5f686091003031239y465f2e8di4001cbf440703b17@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100303205716.2081229074@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<a5f686091003031324v7dd0c542w84b8c04734cff7a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAHnNx/Y+agxMvxb/M6AMgB7CgAAAEAAAAIOolpafG0dBkMyssaHpyocBAAAAAA==@kwfs.info>

Geeklog does have a whole advanced editor (WYSWYG) that works on stories and
static pages, it has to be enabled in the site configuration, it has been a
feature of Geeklog for many years now I believe.

Thanks,

Rob Howard
Site Owner

e : rob.howard at kwfs.info
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-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Abhinav
Chittora
Sent: 03 March 2010 21:25
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 Project idea: WYSWYG Editor for
geeklog.

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Hello Dirk,

Thanks for pointing to that. But may be there is some bugs. When I am
trying to enable advance Editor as you told me, It gets but when
trying to create content such that static page.. there is no WYSWYS
editor, I still have to use [bold] to write bold and so on..
let me know the issue..



- -with Regards,
           \\\///
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   Abhinav Chittora
- ------ooo0-------------------
     (   )     0ooo
      \ (      (   )
       \_)      ) /
               (_/
Google Summer of Code Student for Xiph.org, 2009
Student, Engineering College Bikaner
Sent from Bikaner, Rajasthan, India



On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:27 AM, Dirk Haun  wrote:

>
> Sorry to disappoint you, but Geeklog already ships with a WYSIWYG editor
> (FCKEditor).
>
> It's disabled by default, though, and the option is somewhat hidden:
>
>    Configuration > Geeklog > Users and Submissions > Submission
> Settings > Advanced Editor?
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.geeklog.net/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Mar  3 16:49:52 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 3 Mar 2010 22:49:52 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 Project idea: WYSWYG Editor for
 geeklog.
In-Reply-To: <a5f686091003031324v7dd0c542w84b8c04734cff7a4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a5f686091003031239y465f2e8di4001cbf440703b17@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100303205716.2081229074@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<a5f686091003031324v7dd0c542w84b8c04734cff7a4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100303214952.968364704@smtp.haun-online.de>

Abhinav Chittora wrote:

>but when
>trying to create content such that static page.. there is no WYSWYS
>editor, I still have to use [bold] to write bold and so on..

Click on the "Post Mode" dropdown. There's an "Advanced Editor" option
now. Try that :)

bye, Dirk


-- 
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http://geeklog.info/



From bijolianabhi at gmail.com  Wed Mar  3 16:55:51 2010
From: bijolianabhi at gmail.com (Abhinav Chittora)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 03:25:51 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 Project idea: WYSWYG Editor for
	geeklog.
In-Reply-To: <20100303214952.968364704@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <a5f686091003031239y465f2e8di4001cbf440703b17@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100303205716.2081229074@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<a5f686091003031324v7dd0c542w84b8c04734cff7a4@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100303214952.968364704@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <a5f686091003031355h38f0b6fdk3f849e9619f5bbb1@mail.gmail.com>

thanks dirk...
Now I found what I was looking for....



-with Regards,
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Student, Engineering College Bikaner
Sent from Bikaner, Rajasthan, India


On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 3:19 AM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:

> Abhinav Chittora wrote:
>
> >but when
> >trying to create content such that static page.. there is no WYSWYS
> >editor, I still have to use [bold] to write bold and so on..
>
> Click on the "Post Mode" dropdown. There's an "Advanced Editor" option
> now. Try that :)
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
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> http://geeklog.info/
>
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From bijolianabhi at gmail.com  Thu Mar  4 17:34:35 2010
From: bijolianabhi at gmail.com (Abhinav Chittora)
Date: Fri, 05 Mar 2010 04:04:35 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 Project ideas
Message-ID: <1267742075.15983.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>

hello folks,
I am here with some ideas and willing to discuss them.

1. integrating OAuth: It will be great if geeklog provide facility to
use OAuth for log in to the system. OAuth is using in many sites since
it provide secure log in as well as no extra headache to create a new
account :). 

2. Allowing adding widget in Site: Adding widget/Google gadgets such
that to-do list, countdown, Page Visits, and Other as a block will add
more functionality in geeklog. 

3. Integrating Google Maps: Integration of Google maps will allow to
locate the user on the map. User will able to find friends and add them
as a contact. 

4. Integration Ads: Ads are the source of earning on the website. So we
should move ahead for integrating adsense or other ads service. 


-- 
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Thu Mar  4 18:29:29 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:29:29 -0700
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 Project ideas
In-Reply-To: <1267742075.15983.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
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Abhinzv,

Those are some good ideas, comments below:

1. integrating OAuth: It will be great if geeklog provide facility to
> use OAuth for log in to the system. OAuth is using in many sites since
> it provide secure log in as well as no extra headache to create a new
> account :).
>
This may be a great project for GSOC.  Last year we had a student implement
OpenID. OAuth would be a good addition to Geeklogs existing ability to
authenticate against several different sites and services.

2. Allowing adding widget in Site: Adding widget/Google gadgets such
> that to-do list, countdown, Page Visits, and Other as a block will add
> more functionality in geeklog.
>
These would all be great enhancements to Geeklog. But since Geeklog already
has a block architecture that these could easily be added to, I don't think
there is enough coherence to make this a GSOC project.


> 3. Integrating Google Maps: Integration of Google maps will allow to
> locate the user on the map. User will able to find friends and add them
> as a contact.
>
This is a great "extra feature" idea for the existing SocNet plugin GSOC
project listing. On its own though it is not big enough for its own GSOC
project.


> 4. Integration Ads: Ads are the source of earning on the website. So we
> should move ahead for integrating adsense or other ads service.
>
I believe there already exist several sets of instructions to add ads to
Geeklog sites. From experience, incorporating an existing Ad service such as
Google's AdSense is not difficult and would not be sufficient for a GSOC
project. If you meant to create an "Ad Plugin" that provided ad rotation, ad
sales/billing, ad statistics, and more(?) it would likely be a big enough
project for GSOC. If this is something you want to purse, please flesh out
the requirements you would want to see in such a plugin.

Thanks for input!
-Vinny
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Fri Mar  5 01:58:48 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 07:58:48 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 Project ideas
In-Reply-To: <8319e2d61003041529h63f15c99ua98967509aaf36c1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1267742075.15983.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<8319e2d61003041529h63f15c99ua98967509aaf36c1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100305065848.65970723@smtp.haun-online.de>

Vincent Furia wrote:

>>1. integrating OAuth:
>OAuth would be a good addition to Geeklogs existing ability to
>authenticate against several different sites and services.

When you search our wiki for "OAuth", there's only one hit: A page with
some brief thoughts on security and authentication. An application for
such a project should explain how OAuth fits in to all that and which
problems it would solve exactly.


>If you meant to create an "Ad Plugin" that provided ad rotation, ad
>sales/billing, ad statistics, and more(?) it would likely be a big enough
>project for GSOC.

But then again, why reinvent the wheel? If people are happily using
phpMyAds (they changed the name - forgot what the new name is) with
Geeklog, why spend our scarce resources on a new plugin that does
effectively the same?

Of course, that's only my impression (i.e. that people are happy or at
least okay with what's currently available). I may be wrong and there
may be interest in a better system ...

bye, Dirk


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From cordiste at free.fr  Fri Mar  5 02:46:13 2010
From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 08:46:13 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 Project ideas
In-Reply-To: <1267742075.15983.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <1267742075.15983.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <364575ed1003042346p1b39f64bkb38bbdb8ec7b4951@mail.gmail.com>

3. Integrating Google Maps: Integration of Google maps will allow to
locate the user on the map.

I'm working on a coming soon plugin call Maps.If users set their profile
location then a map is display under their profile.
See example on this page http://geeklog.fr/staticpages/index.php/maps

::Ben




2010/3/4 Abhinav Chittora <bijolianabhi at gmail.com>

> hello folks,
> I am here with some ideas and willing to discuss them.
>
> 1. integrating OAuth: It will be great if geeklog provide facility to
> use OAuth for log in to the system. OAuth is using in many sites since
> it provide secure log in as well as no extra headache to create a new
> account :).
>
> 2. Allowing adding widget in Site: Adding widget/Google gadgets such
> that to-do list, countdown, Page Visits, and Other as a block will add
> more functionality in geeklog.
>
> 3. Integrating Google Maps: Integration of Google maps will allow to
> locate the user on the map. User will able to find friends and add them
> as a contact.
>
> 4. Integration Ads: Ads are the source of earning on the website. So we
> should move ahead for integrating adsense or other ads service.
>
>
> --
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>
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From cordiste at free.fr  Fri Mar  5 03:31:06 2010
From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:31:06 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 Project ideas
In-Reply-To: <364575ed1003042346p1b39f64bkb38bbdb8ec7b4951@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1267742075.15983.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> 
	<364575ed1003042346p1b39f64bkb38bbdb8ec7b4951@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <364575ed1003050031t2b068755x76c9bc0420056083@mail.gmail.com>

>why reinvent the wheel? If people are happily using
>phpMyAds (they changed the name - forgot what the new name is) with
>Geeklog, why spend our scarce resources on a new plugin that does
>effectively the same?

> Of course, that's only my impression (i.e. that people are happy or at
> least okay with what's currently available). I may be wrong and there
> may be interest in a better system ...

An great advantage of integrating tools is to allow admin to use geeklog
features (group security, autotag, submition queue...). So we must keep in
mind to promote every integration, every new plugin and even every new
theme. Otherwise users and developers will look elsewhere.

::Ben

P.S: To follow the seasons, sometime I dream of a "Geeklog Spring of
Plugins" and "Geeklog Autumn of Theme" ;)
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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Fri Mar  5 09:16:02 2010
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2010 09:16:02 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 Project ideas
In-Reply-To: <20100305065848.65970723@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <1267742075.15983.1.camel@localhost.localdomain>	<8319e2d61003041529h63f15c99ua98967509aaf36c1@mail.gmail.com>
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-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun
Sent: March-05-10 1:59 AM
To: geeklog-devel
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 Project ideas

Vincent Furia wrote:

>>1. integrating OAuth:
>OAuth would be a good addition to Geeklogs existing ability to
>authenticate against several different sites and services.

In regards to Facebook Connect, it looks like they may plan to use the next
version of OAuth

http://developers.facebook.com/news.php?blog=1&story=335

http://startupmeme.com/facebook-takes-steps-towards-more-openness-tests-oaut
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From bijolianabhi at gmail.com  Sat Mar  6 00:54:24 2010
From: bijolianabhi at gmail.com (Abhinav Chittora)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 11:24:24 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 Project ideas
In-Reply-To: <011301cabc6e$631deb10$2959c130$@net>
References: <1267742075.15983.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> 
	<8319e2d61003041529h63f15c99ua98967509aaf36c1@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100305065848.65970723@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<011301cabc6e$631deb10$2959c130$@net>
Message-ID: <a5f686091003052154q10f8d167ma488fd8fe25ded32@mail.gmail.com>

Hello folks,
Thanks for discussing the project Ideas.

Dirk Haun wrote:

>When you search our wiki for "OAuth", there's only one hit: A page with
>some brief thoughts on security and authentication. An application for
>such a project should explain how OAuth fits in to all that and which
>problems it would solve exactly.

It means if OAuth is able to solve problems described on the wiki page[1]
related to security and authentication then it will gonna be a good Project
idea for Google Summer of Code 2010. I will soon back with the solution.
Hope OAuth will solve the problem pointed out on the wiki page[1].

During this period another idea strikes in my mind, Hope all of you don't
mind discussion on that also.


cordiste wrote:
>An great advantage of integrating tools is to allow admin to use geeklog
features (group security, autotag, >submition queue...). So we must keep in
mind to promote every integration, every new plugin and even every new
>theme. Otherwise users and developers will look elsewhere.


1. Support for Semantics web: Developing a API to use the data available on
geeklog websites. That API will provide a common framework that allows the
data to be shared and reused across the application, enterprise, and
community boundaries.

2. Some more ideas will come soon. :)


[1] http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Future_Plans


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On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net> wrote:

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun
> Sent: March-05-10 1:59 AM
> To: geeklog-devel
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 Project ideas
>
> Vincent Furia wrote:
>
> >>1. integrating OAuth:
> >OAuth would be a good addition to Geeklogs existing ability to
> >authenticate against several different sites and services.
>
> In regards to Facebook Connect, it looks like they may plan to use the next
> version of OAuth
>
> http://developers.facebook.com/news.php?blog=1&story=335
>
>
> http://startupmeme.com/facebook-takes-steps-towards-more-openness-tests-oaut
> h-wrap-on-friendfeed/
>
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sat Mar  6 06:13:07 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 12:13:07 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 Project ideas
In-Reply-To: <a5f686091003052154q10f8d167ma488fd8fe25ded32@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1267742075.15983.1.camel@localhost.localdomain> 
	<8319e2d61003041529h63f15c99ua98967509aaf36c1@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100305065848.65970723@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<011301cabc6e$631deb10$2959c130$@net>
	<a5f686091003052154q10f8d167ma488fd8fe25ded32@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100306111307.1855270840@smtp.haun-online.de>

Abhinav Chittora wrote:

>1. Support for Semantics web: Developing a API to use the data available on
>geeklog websites. That API will provide a common framework that allows the
>data to be shared and reused across the application, enterprise, and
>community boundaries.

I've toyed with the idea of adding Microformats but didn't really see
the need for a "framework" that could be used for them. After all, it's
only a bunch of additional attributes on some HTML tags. So this didn't
seem like much of a project.

This may change with the HTML Microdata[1] mechanism for HTML 5. Haven't
had a chance to look into any of the details yet, though.

bye, Dirk

[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/2010/WD-microdata-20100304/


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sat Mar  6 10:38:03 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 16:38:03 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Looking for "beginner" tasks
Message-ID: <20100306153803.705615738@smtp.haun-online.de>

We will be asking our GSoC students[1] to submit a patch as part of
their application again this year. In order to make this a bit easier,
I've dropped a couple of minor issues / feature requests into the
bugtracker. I have also tagged any issues that I thought appropriate for
a newcomer (not restricted to Geeklog) with a "beginner" tag.

If you have any smallish issues (bugs or feature requests) that you
think could fall into this category, please submit them on the bugtracker.

Mantis doesn't make it easy to list all those issues, but I think this
link should to the trick:

<http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/search.php?
hide_status_id=90&tag_string=beginner>

bye, Dirk (bracing for the number of open issues to inflate ;-)

[1] insert disclaimer here about having to be accepted as an
organisation for GSoC first


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sat Mar  6 11:07:53 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 17:07:53 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Spam-X project (was: GSoC 2010 is on)
In-Reply-To: <20100227162852.387362029@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <20100127220011.2118280573@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<20100207193421.1036255733@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<044b01caae5e$5dc85790$195906b0$@net>
	<20100215190858.214896209@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<20100227162852.387362029@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <20100306160753.363472803@smtp.haun-online.de>

Dirk Haun wrote:

>In the meantime, how about this mix for a Spam-X GSoC project?

  http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_more_Spam-X_modules

Comments welcome. Especially, since it also includes SWOT, comments from
a certain Brit ;-) Mike, are you there?


This brings us up to 7 fully fleshed-out project ideas. Which, I think,
is a good number.

We could use another full-time and a few co-mentors. Anyone interested?
I'm going to poke a few people in private, which you could avoid by
stepping up now ;-)

bye, Dirk


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sat Mar  6 13:47:16 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2010 19:47:16 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote
In-Reply-To: <20100302203405.1991068863@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <20100205221210.1110474281@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<20100302203405.1991068863@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <20100306184716.1415949413@smtp.haun-online.de>

Dirk Haun wrote:

>let's see some votes please for the two candidates:
>
>--- snip ---
>
>Geeklog - The secure CMS
>
>Geeklog - The safer CMS
>
>--- snip ---

Okay, I'm counting[1] an 8:4 vote[2] for "secure". So "The secure CMS"
it is then.

This is, of course, a pretty bold claim. We should expect someone going
to try out just how secure we really are pretty soon then. But it
wouldn't really be different for "safer", I guess.

So, as mentioned before, we should also take a good look at our
development process with regards to our main selling point again now and
adjust procedures where necessary.

Oh, and somebody just won a t-shirt. And the winner is - Euan McKay[3].
Congrats, Euan!

bye, Dirk

[1] with my own vote going to "safer"
[2] it would have been a 3:3 draw if only counting people with commit
access, but that wasn't stated in the call to vote and would be unfair
to bring up now
[3] <http://eight.pairlist.net/pipermail/geeklog-devel/2010-February/
004520.html>


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sun Mar  7 07:28:22 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2010 13:28:22 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC Student Requirements
In-Reply-To: <8319e2d61002240800u2954c34agc3bd2f2c623c026f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8319e2d61002240800u2954c34agc3bd2f2c623c026f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100307122822.107207339@smtp.haun-online.de>

Vincent Furia wrote:

>We should also start brainstorming requirements for our GSOC students.

I tried to summarize things on this wiki page:

    http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/GSoC_Student_Requirements

Corrections / additions welcome.

bye, Dirk


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From info at heatherengineering.com  Sun Mar  7 10:08:28 2010
From: info at heatherengineering.com (Euan McKay)
Date: Mon, 8 Mar 2010 00:08:28 +0900
Subject: [geeklog-devel] The Slogan - Let's vote
In-Reply-To: <20100306184716.1415949413@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <20100205221210.1110474281@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<20100302203405.1991068863@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<20100306184716.1415949413@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <db993b421003070708t1e838552kd827f14e01196c8e@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks! :)

Euan.


On Sun, Mar 7, 2010 at 03:47, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
> Dirk Haun wrote:
>
>>let's see some votes please for the two candidates:
>>
>>--- snip ---
>>
>>Geeklog - The secure CMS
>>
>>Geeklog - The safer CMS
>>
>>--- snip ---
>
> Okay, I'm counting[1] an 8:4 vote[2] for "secure". So "The secure CMS"
> it is then.
>
> This is, of course, a pretty bold claim. We should expect someone going
> to try out just how secure we really are pretty soon then. But it
> wouldn't really be different for "safer", I guess.
>
> So, as mentioned before, we should also take a good look at our
> development process with regards to our main selling point again now and
> adjust procedures where necessary.
>
> Oh, and somebody just won a t-shirt. And the winner is - Euan McKay[3].
> Congrats, Euan!
>
> bye, Dirk
>
> [1] with my own vote going to "safer"
> [2] it would have been a 3:3 draw if only counting people with commit
> access, but that wasn't stated in the call to vote and would be unfair
> to bring up now
> [3] <http://eight.pairlist.net/pipermail/geeklog-devel/2010-February/
> 004520.html>
>
>
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From bijolianabhi at gmail.com  Wed Mar 10 09:54:21 2010
From: bijolianabhi at gmail.com (Abhinav Chittora)
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:24:21 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Require help with code
Message-ID: <a5f686091003100654n795afa83h12c04645a357df98@mail.gmail.com>

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Hash: SHA256

Hello friends,

I am doing some code for geeklog and stuck at some point. Have a look
at and do suggest me the way to solve out the problem......

I want to use drop down list in a page and write this code.

    $acategory = DB_getItem($_TABLES['linkcategories'], 'category',
"is_default = 1");
    $link_templates->set_var('lang_category', $LANG_LINKS_ADMIN[5]);
    $othercategory = links_select_box (3,$acategory);
    $link_templates->set_var('category_options', $othercategory);

This code should add the drop down list with $acategory but it is
creating a drop down list with other than $acategory. the drop
downlist have first item with default.

PS: Ask if you need to check other thing also.


- -with Regards,
Abhinav Chittora
IRC Nick: Abhinav1

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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sun Mar 14 10:02:21 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:02:21 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] PHP 4.4 vs. 4.3
Message-ID: <20100314140221.950648460@smtp.haun-online.de>

Touchy subject ahead ...

While preparing an updated collection of the PEAR classes to ship with
Geeklog, I noticed that the current version of the base PEAR package
requires PHP 4.4.0 now (actually since PEAR 1.8.0 - we're still shipping
1.7.2 with Geeklog 1.6.1).

Would anybody be terribly upset if we raise the minimum required PHP
version for the next Geeklog release to PHP 4.4.0 (from 4.3.0)?

I know, some would like to kill PHP 4 support altogether ASAP. I think
we should stick with it for one more release cycle and then switch to
PHP 5 only for the November release.

PHP 4 has been officially dead since 2008-08-08 but some Linux
distributions with long-term support still support it.

So, PHP 4.4.0 now, PHP 5 in November?

bye, Dirk

P.S. The next release will also finally drop support for MySQL 3.


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From cordiste at free.fr  Sun Mar 14 12:37:29 2010
From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 17:37:29 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] PHP 4.4 vs. 4.3
In-Reply-To: <20100314140221.950648460@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <20100314140221.950648460@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <364575ed1003140937x20489896q61ec82111f3ca09e@mail.gmail.com>

2010/3/14 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>

> Touchy subject ahead ...
>
> So, PHP 4.4.0 now, PHP 5 in November?
>
>
Yes. Ready.

::Ben
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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Sun Mar 14 13:28:25 2010
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:28:25 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] PHP 4.4 vs. 4.3
In-Reply-To: <20100314140221.950648460@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <20100314140221.950648460@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <003d01cac39b$c0eee7b0$42ccb710$@net>

Kill, Kill, Kill ;-)

-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun
Sent: March-14-10 10:02 AM
To: geeklog-devel
Subject: [geeklog-devel] PHP 4.4 vs. 4.3

Touchy subject ahead ...

While preparing an updated collection of the PEAR classes to ship with
Geeklog, I noticed that the current version of the base PEAR package
requires PHP 4.4.0 now (actually since PEAR 1.8.0 - we're still shipping
1.7.2 with Geeklog 1.6.1).

Would anybody be terribly upset if we raise the minimum required PHP
version for the next Geeklog release to PHP 4.4.0 (from 4.3.0)?

I know, some would like to kill PHP 4 support altogether ASAP. I think
we should stick with it for one more release cycle and then switch to
PHP 5 only for the November release.

PHP 4 has been officially dead since 2008-08-08 but some Linux
distributions with long-term support still support it.

So, PHP 4.4.0 now, PHP 5 in November?

bye, Dirk

P.S. The next release will also finally drop support for MySQL 3.


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From bijolianabhi at gmail.com  Sun Mar 14 13:38:17 2010
From: bijolianabhi at gmail.com (Abhinav Chittora)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:08:17 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] PHP 4.4 vs. 4.3
In-Reply-To: <364575ed1003140937x20489896q61ec82111f3ca09e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100314140221.950648460@smtp.haun-online.de> 
	<364575ed1003140937x20489896q61ec82111f3ca09e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a5f686091003141038o68497832o8f90630583dbfe93@mail.gmail.com>

Dirk Haun wrote:
>PHP 4 has been officially dead since 2008-08-08.


Although I am new to geeklog community but I would like to share my views.
Since PHP 4 have no longer support by the PHP community ( there is no more
security updates) then why we are still stick with PHP 4, We should move to
PHP 5. We are here to provide better security and without secure PHP, it is
not possible so switch to PHP 5 as soon as possible.



-with Regards,
Abhinav Chittora
Sent from Bikaner, Rajasthan, India


On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 10:07 PM, cordiste <cordiste at free.fr> wrote:

> 2010/3/14 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>
>
>> Touchy subject ahead ...
>>
>>
>> So, PHP 4.4.0 now, PHP 5 in November?
>>
>>
> Yes. Ready.
>
> ::Ben
>
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sun Mar 14 15:31:25 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:31:25 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] PHP 4.4 vs. 4.3
In-Reply-To: <a5f686091003141038o68497832o8f90630583dbfe93@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100314140221.950648460@smtp.haun-online.de> 
	<364575ed1003140937x20489896q61ec82111f3ca09e@mail.gmail.com>
	<a5f686091003141038o68497832o8f90630583dbfe93@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100314193125.1533724994@smtp.haun-online.de>

Abhinav Chittora wrote:

>Since PHP 4 have no longer support by the PHP community ( there is no more
>security updates)

As I said, some Linux distros still support it (I thought Ubuntu 8.04
LTS was one of them, but looks like I was wrong there). That includes
backported security patches, from my understanding.

Anyway, I'd like us to make a clean cut. And that should come with
advance notice to the community and a good look around the code to get
rid of any remaining PHP 4-specific workarounds. All this requires time
that, at this point, I'd rather invest in getting the next release ready
for the targeted April release.

Of course this also means that any code produced during GSoC (should we
be selected to participate again) can be PHP 5-only.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From dirk at haun-online.de  Mon Mar 15 08:15:06 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Mon, 15 Mar 2010 13:15:06 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Mercurial tutorial: hginit.com
Message-ID: <20100315131506.105871uvl7w3e58g@webmail.df.eu>


I wasn't aware of this - just came across it today.

http://hginit.com/ is a very nicely done tutorial for Mercurial. It's  
basically just 6 HTML pages, very well written, with lots of examples  
and diagrams, and some humor thrown in for good measure.

Recommended reading.

bye, Dirk





From nahiljain at gmail.com  Tue Mar 16 08:44:00 2010
From: nahiljain at gmail.com (Nahil Jain)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:14:00 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Regarding SoC more Spam-X modules
Message-ID: <cdb6f6851003160544p42e99bbai1526b889c7920535@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I am Nahil Jain. I am a student at IIIT Hyderabad, India. I am doing my
Bachelors in Computers.
I am interested in pursuing this project related to Spam-X modules. I have
earlier worked on bookmarking and tag spam in blogs as part of my projects,
so this project aroused my interest.
I am looking for help regarding how to get started on this.


Nahil Jain,
IIIT Hyderabad,India
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Tue Mar 16 15:12:15 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 20:12:15 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Regarding SoC more Spam-X modules
In-Reply-To: <cdb6f6851003160544p42e99bbai1526b889c7920535@mail.gmail.com>
References: <cdb6f6851003160544p42e99bbai1526b889c7920535@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100316191215.2122612451@smtp.haun-online.de>

Nahil Jain wrote:

>I am interested in pursuing this project related to Spam-X modules. I have
>earlier worked on bookmarking and tag spam in blogs as part of my projects,
>so this project aroused my interest.

Thanks for your interest and welcome :)


>I am looking for help regarding how to get started on this.

I'd suggest you start by getting Geeklog itself up and running (if you
haven't already), as outlined here:

    http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Getting_Started

And then familiarize yourself with the Spam-X plugin. There are two
links ("Further Reading") at the end of the project page that should
give you an idea how spam filtering works in Geeklog.

For some more background on this particular project idea, see the
archives of this mailing list from last month:
<http://eight.pairlist.net/pipermail/geeklog-devel/2010-February/
004539.html> and the following 3 or 4 postings.

There are also some Spam-X-specific issues on our bugtracker if you'd
like to dive right into the code:
<http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/search.php?
hide_status_id=90&tag_string=spamx>

I guess that's a lot to swallow at once, so feel free to ask any
questions that arise.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From kushal.iiita at gmail.com  Wed Mar 17 17:19:06 2010
From: kushal.iiita at gmail.com (kushal)
Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2010 22:19:06 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Batch import of user
Message-ID: <94efb5a31003171419j840c269vc16b9f91526c3762@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Everyone,

I was looking for Adding user in Geeklog and found that for batch import one
need to specify the format that is: full name, username, email address. I'm
thinking to modify it with an xml document. Yes, the previous one will also
be there, but manytime the admin has data in xml format from other sources,,
so it will be nice to implement a small code for batch import of the user by
xml
.
We will define some xml tag. But this one will be very general. If this code
make any significance for Geeklog, then I'm ready to do this and will share
xml format with you all for your approval. Waiting for your response.

Moreover, I'm seeking a Gsoc position in Geeklog this time and looking TO-DO
List of Geeklog. Have some doubts for calendar plugin:

   1. We can implement the Ajaxian calendar which will enable the
   asynchronous navigation of months, without updating the page.
   2. Now since, the geeklog calendar is very old one, So it will be good
   idea, to integrate other format of plugin also such as xml, ical and html.
   3. For Event location, there would be a link which will open in google
   maps. [Easy to do]
   4. Comprehensive options panel for admin.
   5. A contact person name for each event.
   6. Pop up javascript calendars help the choosing of dates.

Please comment, whether I will be nice to have this feature also with the
to-do list in wiki page for calendar plugin. I want to discuss more idea,
jst waiting for approval for the above ideas, so that I can start planning
in a step by step manner.

Kushal Keshri
Final year Student
Indian Institute of Information Technology, Allahabad
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Thu Mar 18 05:16:44 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 10:16:44 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Batch import of user
In-Reply-To: <94efb5a31003171419j840c269vc16b9f91526c3762@mail.gmail.com>
References: <94efb5a31003171419j840c269vc16b9f91526c3762@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100318091644.1872058113@smtp.haun-online.de>

kushal wrote:

>I was looking for Adding user in Geeklog and found that for batch import one
>need to specify the format that is: full name, username, email address. I'm
>thinking to modify it with an xml document.

Hmm. Which problem would it solve to add an XML import? For most people
and most situations, putting together a list of new users in a
spreadsheet is probably easier than creating some fancy XML, don't you think?

The batch import feature could certainly use some improvement, e.g. a
preview or a dry-run option, the ability to undo a batch import, things
like that. I'd rather see some work done on those first instead of
adding new import formats.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From dirk at haun-online.de  Thu Mar 18 15:51:17 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:51:17 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 - we're in!
Message-ID: <20100318195117.197844988@smtp.haun-online.de>

In case anyone missed it:

    http://www.geeklog.net/article.php/summer-of-code-2010

:)

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From mess110 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 18 16:38:56 2010
From: mess110 at gmail.com (mess110 at gmail.com)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:38:56 +0000
Subject: [geeklog-devel] new in the community
Message-ID: <00148531a8a149593f0482193825@google.com>

Hello

My name is Cristian and I wanted to say hello to everybody.

I am a student in Denmark, studying IT Engineering and I am interested in  
content management systems, working on some small projects in the past.  
After looking at the source and ideas I will have questions to ask.

Best regards,
Cristian
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From kodavali.satish at gmail.com  Thu Mar 18 16:49:29 2010
From: kodavali.satish at gmail.com (Sateesh Kodavali)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 15:49:29 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC 2010 Aspiring Candidate:Introduction
Message-ID: <25cc844e1003181349q790e5bccx635756fbf327c4be@mail.gmail.com>

Hello All,

I am Sateesh, a Masters student in Computer Science and Human Computer
Interaction at Iowa State University. I am pretty passionate about
programming, learning new software technologies and contributing to open
source. I have been part of an open source project xPST (
http://code.google.com/p/xpst/).

This passion brought me close to gsoc. I have been playing around with
Geeklog from a few days and it seems very interesting to me. Now I am quite
happy to find Geeklog being accepted to gsoc 2010.

I am particularly interested in the two projects "SoC improve configuration
gui", "SoC calendar plugin". I wish to be in touch with this community to
learn more and contribute to open source and geeklog.

Thanks
Sateesh
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From ruturajmd at gmail.com  Thu Mar 18 17:19:32 2010
From: ruturajmd at gmail.com (Ruturaj Dhekane)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:49:32 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC - Socnet
Message-ID: <955e31df1003181419y480cf27cj681a38a6643b75fd@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

I was looking at the Socnet Task, and would like post so that I understand
it better.
(here a user is referenced as a user is a entity, all other users are his
friends)

As few of the initial tasks suggest, there needs to be a big change in the
group management for geeklog.
A typical mechanism as seen in the other Social networking sites is,

A user creates groups (friends, family, students)
Permission to view a document is given to the groups. Can It be individual
members also? Probably yes, cause some friends might not be categorized into
any group by the user.
*
*
Following this, A friend needs to connect to the user, this is a request
accept mechanism. A user might choose not to have a accept, and all requests
are automatically accepted.

He should be able to move the friends in the groups and delete them
*Do we need to think of having a friend part of multiple groups?*
*
*
And finally notifying the friend that content has changed by the user.
I think here a lot of new ideas can be put in cause the present structure of
notification by other social networking sites is either spam-like email or
cluttered windows.

A idea would be to use a socnet specific page per user on which he gets all
the updates.
he should be able to categorize the updates or stop receiving them.
One of the current trends is to allow social networking sites to work with
wide variety of mashups, so a api could be provided to allow users
to/develop quick mashup that use socnet.

The Ideas page was pretty self explainatory, but I just want to be sure, I
understand the problem and its requirements completely.

Regards
Ruturaj

-- 
[Geekru2]
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From wojtek.szkutnik at gmail.com  Thu Mar 18 17:24:35 2010
From: wojtek.szkutnik at gmail.com (Wojtek Szkutnik)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:24:35 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Google Summer of Code 2010 (core notification
	support )
Message-ID: <2b0fd5c41003181424p1acd14d1n63642ac514dfabae@mail.gmail.com>

hi,

My name is Wojtek Szkutnik. I'm a Computer Science student at the
Jagiellonian University in Krakow, Poland.
I'm Google Highly Open Participation Contest winner (more at
http://code.google.com/opensource/ghop/2007-8/grandprize.html under
SilverStripe).
Besides, I did various programming projects, about some you can read at
http://wojtekszkutnik.com/about/
I consider myself an experienced developer so I'm looking for a challenging
project to blow my mind ;-)
So far the "core notification support" seems most promising for me, do you
have any more suggestions about this idea?
Are there any specific features not listed on
http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_core_notification_support that you'd
like to see implemented?
 <http://wojtekszkutnik.com/about/>
Best Regards,
Wojtek Szkutnik
http://wojtekszkutnik.com
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From iamsumesh at gmail.com  Thu Mar 18 17:39:22 2010
From: iamsumesh at gmail.com (Sumesh KS)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:09:22 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Google Summer of Code 2010 (SoC more Spam-X modules)
Message-ID: <845786d51003181439o654f8e51u92bcb76bcb748e26@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

My name is Sumesh K S. I am a MCA student at the Govt. Engineering College,
Mahthma Gandhi University in Kottayam,Kerala,India. i am very interested in
working open source programs. I have knowledge in C,C++, PHP, MySql,
drupal,joomla etc. I like to work in SoC more Spam-X modules. I like to take
this project as a challenge and complete it successfully and increase the
features and improve geeklog.

Sumesh.
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From cordiste at free.fr  Thu Mar 18 17:45:30 2010
From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 22:45:30 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Google Summer of Code 2010 (core notification
	support )
In-Reply-To: <2b0fd5c41003181424p1acd14d1n63642ac514dfabae@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2b0fd5c41003181424p1acd14d1n63642ac514dfabae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <364575ed1003181445o1292dd68x46e18f682c3cb48d@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

It would be insteresting if geeklog can keep a trace of each email send by
the system to users (date, content, number of email, name of the group).

::Ben

2010/3/18 Wojtek Szkutnik <wojtek.szkutnik at gmail.com>

> hi,
>
> My name is Wojtek Szkutnik. I'm a Computer Science student at the
> Jagiellonian University in Krakow, Poland.
> I'm Google Highly Open Participation Contest winner (more at
> http://code.google.com/opensource/ghop/2007-8/grandprize.html under
> SilverStripe).
> Besides, I did various programming projects, about some you can read at
> http://wojtekszkutnik.com/about/
> I consider myself an experienced developer so I'm looking for a challenging
> project to blow my mind ;-)
> So far the "core notification support" seems most promising for me, do you
> have any more suggestions about this idea?
> Are there any specific features not listed on
> http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_core_notification_support that you'd
> like to see implemented?
>  <http://wojtekszkutnik.com/about/>
> Best Regards,
> Wojtek Szkutnik
> http://wojtekszkutnik.com
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
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From hiten.r.chauhan at gmail.com  Thu Mar 18 17:45:54 2010
From: hiten.r.chauhan at gmail.com (hitendra chauhan)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:15:54 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Interested in SoC social network support
Message-ID: <50dc4f9f1003181445y45d2a790w18d375e759929110@mail.gmail.com>

I am hitendra chauhan, currently persuing Btech in computer science
from National Institute Of Science & Technology,(Orissa-India).

I love to do programming and learning new technology,participated in
The Great Mind Challenge organized by IBM,India

GSOC is a great platform to lean and peep in to some of the greatest
mind in the world.

I am particularly interested in the project "SoC social network support".

Thanks..
Hitendra


From ruturajmd at gmail.com  Thu Mar 18 17:55:40 2010
From: ruturajmd at gmail.com (Ruturaj Dhekane)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:25:40 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Hello and Introduction
Message-ID: <955e31df1003181455p4baa94c1w8eab580f7d1629ee@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Everyone!

I am Ruturaj Dhekane, From India.
I am currently pursuing Masters In Computer Science And Engineering At
Indian Institute Of Technology, Kanpur.

I have been programming and developing applications for about 10 years, and
programming has always been a passion. I love a mix of large projects and
programming contests to keep the adrenaline running!

I haven't contributed to any opensource project, But have developed large
web based or desktop applications for internal purposes at my university or
for hobby. Have worked on large number of platforms, languages and strong in
software design and quick implementation.

Recently I have been reading a lot about social networking graphs and their
analysis using spectral methods. Quite an interesting structure of problem.
A lot of research is being carried out to improve connectivity and user
experience in social networks. Hence the interest in Socnet Task.

In free time, I code more or play. Have been Rubik cubing lately, and though
I manage to solve it under 45 secs, the activity takes considerable amount
of time in my day.

Thanks and regards,
Ruturaj.
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From vladvoic at gmail.com  Thu Mar 18 18:21:34 2010
From: vladvoic at gmail.com (Vlad Voicu)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:21:34 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Google Summer of Code 2010 (calendar plugin)
Message-ID: <3171d95d1003181521x2c34d880j80974c28abd5922f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi!

My name is Vlad Voicu and I am a 2nd year student at Politehnica
University Of Bucharest, Faculty of Automatic Control and Computer
Science.

I have developed a bunch of applications in PHP, MySQL, mainly
as a freelancer. I am using Ubuntu as my operating system, and
I'm familiar with versioning systems (GIT, SVN), and I think I can easily
adapt to Mercurial. My favorite editor is VIM, hope you are not racist
towards this :D. I can work around LAMP easily.

I am very interested in the calendar plugin. I would like to know what
are the steps to be accepted for this project, as you have already
thought of all the main features :).

I was thinking to submit to you my vision on the calendar interface
and on the implementation of the features.

I know some things about what problems you face when you design a
calendar, as I done a lot of research recently on Osmo (a personal
organizer) because I work on a synchronization feature for it. The
work is done in an open source organization from my University -
ROSEdu.


Vlad


From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Thu Mar 18 18:47:46 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:47:46 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC - Socnet
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834A8@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>

Hi Ruturaj, 

Thanks for your interest in the Socnet project for GSoC.
To respond to your email in the best possible way, I will respond to each of your points in order:

1. Geeklog's current group management is fine for core Geeklog.  As highlighted in the GSoC Geeklog wiki, there was already a good discussion on how to easily extend the current group structure that would easily allow the current core group code to exist with the minor data schema change.  

2. You're correct in how you've explained the social networking capabilities.  To boil it down, Socnet is based on giving end users group creation abilities and all administration that surrounds those groups as noted in the socnet wiki page.  However the admins of GL should be able to administer those end user groups as well.

3. User's groups are totally managed by the end user and owned by the end user.  They choose who they'd like to have as part of their social groups.
That means that there is most certainly the ability to have one "friend" as part of many socnet groups.

4. Notification of content changes is something that is certainly a must for social networking.  However there is some debate still left to be had in terms of how those notifications happen.  I would expect Socnet proposals to have something outlining how notifications could be handled.

Bullet item 4 above hints at having an API made available by the Socnet plugin that would help surface a permissions "widget" in any plugin that asks for it to be surfaced -- this is the beginnings of how content is secured and stored for social networks.

-randy

-----Original Message-----
From:	Ruturaj Dhekane [mailto:ruturajmd at gmail.com]
Sent:	Thu 3/18/2010 5:19 PM
To:	geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Cc:	
Subject:	[geeklog-devel] GSOC - Socnet

Hi!

I was looking at the Socnet Task, and would like post so that I understand
it better.
(here a user is referenced as a user is a entity, all other users are his
friends)

As few of the initial tasks suggest, there needs to be a big change in the
group management for geeklog.
A typical mechanism as seen in the other Social networking sites is,

A user creates groups (friends, family, students)
Permission to view a document is given to the groups. Can It be individual
members also? Probably yes, cause some friends might not be categorized into
any group by the user.
*
*
Following this, A friend needs to connect to the user, this is a request
accept mechanism. A user might choose not to have a accept, and all requests
are automatically accepted.

He should be able to move the friends in the groups and delete them
*Do we need to think of having a friend part of multiple groups?*
*
*
And finally notifying the friend that content has changed by the user.
I think here a lot of new ideas can be put in cause the present structure of
notification by other social networking sites is either spam-like email or
cluttered windows.

A idea would be to use a socnet specific page per user on which he gets all
the updates.
he should be able to categorize the updates or stop receiving them.
One of the current trends is to allow social networking sites to work with
wide variety of mashups, so a api could be provided to allow users
to/develop quick mashup that use socnet.

The Ideas page was pretty self explainatory, but I just want to be sure, I
understand the problem and its requirements completely.

Regards
Ruturaj

-- 
[Geekru2]



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From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Thu Mar 18 18:49:28 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:49:28 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Hello and Introduction
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834A9@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>

Hi Ruturaj.  Welcome!
Thanks for your interest in the Socnet GSoC project.
Please reference the GSoC Geeklog wiki page for the mandatory requirements for the Socnet project.

I'm looking forward to seeing your application for this project!

If you have any specific questions, please post them to this list.

-randy


-----Original Message-----
From:	Ruturaj Dhekane [mailto:ruturajmd at gmail.com]
Sent:	Thu 3/18/2010 5:55 PM
To:	geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Cc:	
Subject:	[geeklog-devel] Hello and Introduction

Hi Everyone!

I am Ruturaj Dhekane, From India.
I am currently pursuing Masters In Computer Science And Engineering At
Indian Institute Of Technology, Kanpur.

I have been programming and developing applications for about 10 years, and
programming has always been a passion. I love a mix of large projects and
programming contests to keep the adrenaline running!

I haven't contributed to any opensource project, But have developed large
web based or desktop applications for internal purposes at my university or
for hobby. Have worked on large number of platforms, languages and strong in
software design and quick implementation.

Recently I have been reading a lot about social networking graphs and their
analysis using spectral methods. Quite an interesting structure of problem.
A lot of research is being carried out to improve connectivity and user
experience in social networks. Hence the interest in Socnet Task.

In free time, I code more or play. Have been Rubik cubing lately, and though
I manage to solve it under 45 secs, the activity takes considerable amount
of time in my day.

Thanks and regards,
Ruturaj.
-- 
[Geekru2]



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From th3iedkid at gmail.com  Fri Mar 19 06:55:15 2010
From: th3iedkid at gmail.com (ganesh)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:25:15 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Hello and introduction
Message-ID: <c841dae1003190355j13ee80f0y64e69a0768b6a210@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
Let me introduce myself to begin with,
I am Raman Ganesh , am pursuing my bachelor's degree in engineering in IT
(4rth year), at NIT Kurukshetra.
I always believe in making a good difference in whatever i choose to do or
work under.With a positive forward looking attitude and persistence i like
challenging problems.My attitude for making a difference has always pulled
me through very good challenges. I have worked under PHP and java to create
a mid-size SMB share-searching project in my spare time with a customized
paging scheme.I also have created addons for firefox and have worked on many
RESTfull APIs like Twitter APIs , Alchemy API ... I like working on
applications that simplifies everything.

As for the notification service under the core ,i was thinking in the lines
of SOAP model for a web-service which could provide a scheme for event
reception,confirmation and notification.If i were to develop a core API
under these lines , the services provided  could then be used by the plugins
and other actors with the under-core implementation staying opaque.Please
check me in my line of thought if am going in the right direction.

I haven't been through the whole of GL core API yet but have started
understanding , so please tell me where am going wrong in my model.

thank you and regards
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From jamil_fawad at hotmail.com  Fri Mar 19 14:03:42 2010
From: jamil_fawad at hotmail.com (jamil haider)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:03:42 +0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Dynamic Feeds for Soc
Message-ID: <BAY127-W3198935485C707B2D8F85862A0@phx.gbl>


Hi,

I am Jamil Haider doing computer engineering from Pakistan. I was interested in adding support for dynamic feeds with access control. On the ides page it was written that there will be need for simplification of Plugin API for feeds. Any pointers pertaining to that required simplification are welcome. I am also bit confused about the scope of the project because it seems that to implement this feature I will have to poke into many different areas. Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Regards
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Fri Mar 19 15:30:04 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:30:04 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Dynamic Feeds for Soc
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W3198935485C707B2D8F85862A0@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY127-W3198935485C707B2D8F85862A0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20100319193004.945262577@smtp.haun-online.de>

jamil haider wrote:


>I am Jamil Haider doing computer engineering from Pakistan. I was
>interested in adding support for dynamic feeds with access control. On
>the ides page it was written that there will be need for simplification
>of Plugin API for feeds. Any pointers pertaining to that required
>simplification are welcome.

Well, currently plugins have to duplicate a lot of code when they
provide a feed. The question here was whether this code duplication
could be avoided.

Maybe I'll better start with the second part of your question:

>I am also bit confused about the scope of
>the project because it seems that to implement this feature I will have
>to poke into many different areas.

Generally speaking, the code that actually creates the feed in the
various formats is in system/classes/syndication. Above that is system/
lib-syndication.php, which is either called through the Plugin API or in
some cases directly (for article feeds).

I'd suggest you have a look at what happens when you save a new story -
follow the calls through COM_rdfUpToDateCheck down to writing the feed
file. Then do the same for a plugin that supports feeds, e.g. the
Calendar plugin.

When you follow both paths, you'll see the duplicated code I mentioned
above. If you see a chance to reduce or eliminate that code duplication,
that would be welcome. But that's only the bonus part of this project.

Yes, this project would potentially touch on many different areas of the
code. Currently, when a new item is saved or an item is updated,
COM_rdfUpToDateCheck is called and all feeds the that are affected are
updated.

Dynamic feeds will have to work the other way around: A request for a
feed comes in and the items in it need to be collected and delivered.

For some sort of feeds, there may be a middle ground: The stories for a
feed (or rather, their story id), for example, could be cached in the
database. But this won't work for a feed for searches.

Part of the research for this project should be to figure out how far we
could go (technically and realistically, given the constraints of the
Summer). In some systems, you can turn pretty much every URL into an RSS
feed by attaching some parameter to it. Something like that is pretty
cool but probably not realistic for Geeklog. But some of the more
dynamic examples listed on the ideas page (feed for moderation, feeds
for search) seem to be within reach and would be very useful.

Hope that helps :)

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From dirk at haun-online.de  Fri Mar 19 16:31:31 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:31:31 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Hello and introduction
In-Reply-To: <c841dae1003190355j13ee80f0y64e69a0768b6a210@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c841dae1003190355j13ee80f0y64e69a0768b6a210@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100319203131.368675963@smtp.haun-online.de>

ganesh wrote:

>As for the notification service under the core ,i was thinking in the lines
>of SOAP model for a web-service which could provide a scheme for event
>reception,confirmation and notification.If i were to develop a core API
>under these lines , the services provided  could then be used by the plugins
>and other actors with the under-core implementation staying opaque.Please
>check me in my line of thought if am going in the right direction.

Yes, I think that's a good general subscription of the idea. Actually,
you mentioning SOAP scared me a bit ;-) But I think you really only
meant that, effectively, this would be along the lines of what SOAP
tries to accomplish and you are not suggesting to actually use SOAP
here, right? Just checking ...

If you haven't done so, you should also read through the past discussion
(linked from the wiki page). I see that Konstantin's draft is still available:

    http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dd4t2984_0cf3526cd

You may be able to draw some inspiration from that as well.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From hiten.r.chauhan at gmail.com  Sat Mar 20 04:19:09 2010
From: hiten.r.chauhan at gmail.com (hitendra chauhan)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 13:49:09 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] SocNet
Message-ID: <50dc4f9f1003200119j54e461cfvfc98b02655119449@mail.gmail.com>

Hi..
I was getting into the functionalities required in Socnet.

As it is very clear that Socnet provides group related tasks like
creating group,request to join a group, administering the group,opting
out from the group,every thing is crystel clear.

I propose one thing that is probably not included is blacklisting the
groups if they are exposing irrelevent content.(as blacklisting
users).

One thing more, can we include chat session among the group members.

I wanted to know whether Socnet will provide only Group related tasks
or it may provide functionalities individually like sending friend
request to individual,sending them messages like scrap as we see in
other social networkin sites

As the idea page describes every thing clear but what I understood is
most of the funtionalities are revolving around the group related
tasks.
We can improve it by adding individuals related tasks.

-- 
Hitendra Chauhan


From iamsumesh at gmail.com  Sat Mar 20 06:43:46 2010
From: iamsumesh at gmail.com (Sumesh KS)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:13:46 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Introduction - (Google SoC more Spam-X modules)
Message-ID: <845786d51003200343r60daeb91l13fa9f5e8032f22c@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I am Sumesh ks, From India.

I am currently pursuing Master of Computer Application at Govt. Engineering
College (RIT), Mahathama Gandhi University, Kerala.

I have been programming and developing applications for about 2 years, and
programming has always been a passion.

I haven't contributed to any opensource project, But i have developed web
based or desktop applications. I am a freesoftware activist. and spreading
free software and opensource applications and giving training in these
software.

I have good knowledge in C,C++,PHP,MySQL,QT and also have good experience in
Adobe Photoshop,Flash and familiar with cms like dupal, joomla.

My timezone Asia/Calcutta : +5:30.

I read your ideas for Google Summer of code 2010. i am interested in working
"New modules for our Spam
filter<http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_more_Spam-X_modules>".
I read the feature request mentioned in the idea list and i like to
implement these ideas.

Thanks and regards,
Sumesh ks.
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From tuxcanfly at gmail.com  Sat Mar 20 08:28:52 2010
From: tuxcanfly at gmail.com (Jakh Daven)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 17:58:52 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC - Socnet
In-Reply-To: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834A8@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834A8@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
Message-ID: <8cceeceb1003200528y5111b002odaf5892853db78f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Randy,

I am a would-be student participant and have lurking around this mailing
list and the bug tracker for some time now.

The socnet wiki page mentions that socnet will be meshed with other project.
This mostly probably refers to core notification support project as socnet
has many components that could use core notification apis.  My question is:
What is the responsibility of socnet with regards to notifications? Will
socnet have notification stubs that will use core notification apis after
meshing? Or will socnet proceed independently and have a 'basic'
notification system?

Thanks,
Jakh

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca>wrote:

> Hi Ruturaj,
>
> Thanks for your interest in the Socnet project for GSoC.
> To respond to your email in the best possible way, I will respond to each
> of your points in order:
>
> 1. Geeklog's current group management is fine for core Geeklog.  As
> highlighted in the GSoC Geeklog wiki, there was already a good discussion on
> how to easily extend the current group structure that would easily allow the
> current core group code to exist with the minor data schema change.
>
> 2. You're correct in how you've explained the social networking
> capabilities.  To boil it down, Socnet is based on giving end users group
> creation abilities and all administration that surrounds those groups as
> noted in the socnet wiki page.  However the admins of GL should be able to
> administer those end user groups as well.
>
> 3. User's groups are totally managed by the end user and owned by the end
> user.  They choose who they'd like to have as part of their social groups.
> That means that there is most certainly the ability to have one "friend" as
> part of many socnet groups.
>
> 4. Notification of content changes is something that is certainly a must
> for social networking.  However there is some debate still left to be had in
> terms of how those notifications happen.  I would expect Socnet proposals to
> have something outlining how notifications could be handled.
>
> Bullet item 4 above hints at having an API made available by the Socnet
> plugin that would help surface a permissions "widget" in any plugin that
> asks for it to be surfaced -- this is the beginnings of how content is
> secured and stored for social networks.
>
> -randy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Ruturaj Dhekane [mailto:ruturajmd at gmail.com]
> Sent:   Thu 3/18/2010 5:19 PM
> To:     geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> Cc:
> Subject:        [geeklog-devel] GSOC - Socnet
>
> Hi!
>
> I was looking at the Socnet Task, and would like post so that I understand
> it better.
> (here a user is referenced as a user is a entity, all other users are his
> friends)
>
> As few of the initial tasks suggest, there needs to be a big change in the
> group management for geeklog.
> A typical mechanism as seen in the other Social networking sites is,
>
> A user creates groups (friends, family, students)
> Permission to view a document is given to the groups. Can It be individual
> members also? Probably yes, cause some friends might not be categorized
> into
> any group by the user.
> *
> *
> Following this, A friend needs to connect to the user, this is a request
> accept mechanism. A user might choose not to have a accept, and all
> requests
> are automatically accepted.
>
> He should be able to move the friends in the groups and delete them
> *Do we need to think of having a friend part of multiple groups?*
> *
> *
> And finally notifying the friend that content has changed by the user.
> I think here a lot of new ideas can be put in cause the present structure
> of
> notification by other social networking sites is either spam-like email or
> cluttered windows.
>
> A idea would be to use a socnet specific page per user on which he gets all
> the updates.
> he should be able to categorize the updates or stop receiving them.
> One of the current trends is to allow social networking sites to work with
> wide variety of mashups, so a api could be provided to allow users
> to/develop quick mashup that use socnet.
>
> The Ideas page was pretty self explainatory, but I just want to be sure, I
> understand the problem and its requirements completely.
>
> Regards
> Ruturaj
>
> --
> [Geekru2]
>
>
>
>
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From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Sat Mar 20 09:04:38 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:04:38 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] SocNet
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F357124@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>


> Hi..

Hello.


> 
> I propose one thing that is probably not included is blacklisting the
> groups if they are exposing irrelevent content.(as blacklisting
> users).

Wouldn't irrelevant content be handled by not publishing the irrelevant
content?  
Not sure how blacklisting groups helps content.  This could just be me
-- so if you could explain this in more detail.


> 
> One thing more, can we include chat session among the group members.

Sure -- however this is probably a function of a plugin then.  Socnet
would provide the APIs that a chat mechanism could utilize.


> 
> I wanted to know whether Socnet will provide only Group related tasks
> or it may provide functionalities individually like sending friend
> request to individual,sending them messages like scrap as we see in
> other social networkin sites


The wiki page for this project states that Socnet will provide all end
user driven administration as well as root level administration
abilities; that includes the ability to invite people, blacklist people
etc.



> 
> As the idea page describes every thing clear but what I understood is
> most of the funtionalities are revolving around the group related
> tasks.
> We can improve it by adding individuals related tasks.
> 


Not sure what individual tasks were lacking in the specification.  Can
you clarify?

-randy



From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Sat Mar 20 09:09:10 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:09:10 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC - Socnet
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834AD@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>

Hi Jakh, 

In regards to notifications, Geeklog doesn't have a centralized notification system other than COM_mail.  Other discussion threads on this list have already discussed why things like email throttling etc need to be established.  However that, I feel, is outside of the realm of what Socnet should provide.

Socnet should have a basic notification system.  Whether that is through email or a combination of email and a notification "wall" for the user.

In regards to meshing with other projects -- socnet will provide APIs for other plugins to use.  If the apis become stable and mature enough during the GSoC run for 2010, they could conceivably be used by, say, the calendar plugin revamp project to open up calendar content to social networking.  That, however, is probably not going to happen.

-randy




From: Jakh Daven [mailto:tuxcanfly at gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 8:29 AM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] GSOC - Socnet

Hi Randy,
I am a would-be student participant and have lurking around this mailing list and the bug tracker for some time now.

The socnet wiki page mentions that socnet will be meshed with other project. This mostly probably refers to core notification support project as socnet has many components that could use core notification apis. ?My question is: What is the responsibility of socnet with regards to notifications? Will socnet have notification stubs that will use core notification apis after meshing? Or will socnet proceed?independently?and have a 'basic' notification system?

Thanks,
Jakh

On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca> wrote:
Hi Ruturaj,

Thanks for your interest in the Socnet project for GSoC.
To respond to your email in the best possible way, I will respond to each of your points in order:

1. Geeklog's current group management is fine for core Geeklog. ?As highlighted in the GSoC Geeklog wiki, there was already a good discussion on how to easily extend the current group structure that would easily allow the current core group code to exist with the minor data schema change.

2. You're correct in how you've explained the social networking capabilities. ?To boil it down, Socnet is based on giving end users group creation abilities and all administration that surrounds those groups as noted in the socnet wiki page. ?However the admins of GL should be able to administer those end user groups as well.

3. User's groups are totally managed by the end user and owned by the end user. ?They choose who they'd like to have as part of their social groups.
That means that there is most certainly the ability to have one "friend" as part of many socnet groups.

4. Notification of content changes is something that is certainly a must for social networking. ?However there is some debate still left to be had in terms of how those notifications happen. ?I would expect Socnet proposals to have something outlining how notifications could be handled.

Bullet item 4 above hints at having an API made available by the Socnet plugin that would help surface a permissions "widget" in any plugin that asks for it to be surfaced -- this is the beginnings of how content is secured and stored for social networks.


-randy

-----Original Message-----
From: ? Ruturaj Dhekane [mailto:ruturajmd at gmail.com]
Sent: ? Thu 3/18/2010 5:19 PM
To: ? ? geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
Cc:
Subject: ? ? ? ?[geeklog-devel] GSOC - Socnet

Hi!

I was looking at the Socnet Task, and would like post so that I understand
it better.
(here a user is referenced as a user is a entity, all other users are his
friends)

As few of the initial tasks suggest, there needs to be a big change in the
group management for geeklog.
A typical mechanism as seen in the other Social networking sites is,

A user creates groups (friends, family, students)
Permission to view a document is given to the groups. Can It be individual
members also? Probably yes, cause some friends might not be categorized into
any group by the user.
*
*
Following this, A friend needs to connect to the user, this is a request
accept mechanism. A user might choose not to have a accept, and all requests
are automatically accepted.

He should be able to move the friends in the groups and delete them
*Do we need to think of having a friend part of multiple groups?*
*
*
And finally notifying the friend that content has changed by the user.
I think here a lot of new ideas can be put in cause the present structure of
notification by other social networking sites is either spam-like email or
cluttered windows.

A idea would be to use a socnet specific page per user on which he gets all
the updates.
he should be able to categorize the updates or stop receiving them.
One of the current trends is to allow social networking sites to work with
wide variety of mashups, so a api could be provided to allow users
to/develop quick mashup that use socnet.

The Ideas page was pretty self explainatory, but I just want to be sure, I
understand the problem and its requirements completely.

Regards
Ruturaj

--
[Geekru2]



_______________________________________________
geeklog-devel mailing list
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From ruturajmd at gmail.com  Sat Mar 20 09:48:47 2010
From: ruturajmd at gmail.com (Ruturaj Dhekane)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 19:18:47 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC - Socnet
In-Reply-To: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834AD@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834AD@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
Message-ID: <955e31df1003200648i78d24a95t560efbed580199e3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Other that revamping of the groups and access control, I believe that
notification of the activity is most important. For that I propose two
steps.

1. A user Profile page on which all activity streams are shown, from each of
his friends and himself/herself. This is a single point web based
notification area.

2. The second is to stream the notification. This can be designed according
to the Atom feed standards. The user might choose to make these feeds email
based, through which he will get email notification for them. As discussed
above, the format of notifications should be standardized across all
projects, even calendar and core notification support, because the services
can be scaled to mix with each other in the future (or even now).
This profile page must be very easy to manage and must not clutter up the
user space.
I think this Socnet is more of a community builder across GL, and must be
provided good backend support so that other services can build over it in
the  future.


Regarding the groups.

* However the admins of GL should be able to administer those end user
groups as well.*
I was wondering how an admin can keep a tab on the different groups a end
user is creating. It might become unmanageable.

Regards
Ruturaj


On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 6:39 PM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca>wrote:

> Hi Jakh,
>
> In regards to notifications, Geeklog doesn't have a centralized
> notification system other than COM_mail.  Other discussion threads on this
> list have already discussed why things like email throttling etc need to be
> established.  However that, I feel, is outside of the realm of what Socnet
> should provide.
>
> Socnet should have a basic notification system.  Whether that is through
> email or a combination of email and a notification "wall" for the user.
>
> In regards to meshing with other projects -- socnet will provide APIs for
> other plugins to use.  If the apis become stable and mature enough during
> the GSoC run for 2010, they could conceivably be used by, say, the calendar
> plugin revamp project to open up calendar content to social networking.
>  That, however, is probably not going to happen.
>
> -randy
>
>
>
>
> From: Jakh Daven [mailto:tuxcanfly at gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 8:29 AM
> To: Geeklog Development
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] GSOC - Socnet
>
> Hi Randy,
> I am a would-be student participant and have lurking around this mailing
> list and the bug tracker for some time now.
>
> The socnet wiki page mentions that socnet will be meshed with other
> project. This mostly probably refers to core notification support project as
> socnet has many components that could use core notification apis.  My
> question is: What is the responsibility of socnet with regards to
> notifications? Will socnet have notification stubs that will use core
> notification apis after meshing? Or will socnet proceed independently and
> have a 'basic' notification system?
>
> Thanks,
> Jakh
>
> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 4:17 AM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca>
> wrote:
> Hi Ruturaj,
>
> Thanks for your interest in the Socnet project for GSoC.
> To respond to your email in the best possible way, I will respond to each
> of your points in order:
>
> 1. Geeklog's current group management is fine for core Geeklog.  As
> highlighted in the GSoC Geeklog wiki, there was already a good discussion on
> how to easily extend the current group structure that would easily allow the
> current core group code to exist with the minor data schema change.
>
> 2. You're correct in how you've explained the social networking
> capabilities.  To boil it down, Socnet is based on giving end users group
> creation abilities and all administration that surrounds those groups as
> noted in the socnet wiki page.  However the admins of GL should be able to
> administer those end user groups as well.
>
> 3. User's groups are totally managed by the end user and owned by the end
> user.  They choose who they'd like to have as part of their social groups.
> That means that there is most certainly the ability to have one "friend" as
> part of many socnet groups.
>
> 4. Notification of content changes is something that is certainly a must
> for social networking.  However there is some debate still left to be had in
> terms of how those notifications happen.  I would expect Socnet proposals to
> have something outlining how notifications could be handled.
>
> Bullet item 4 above hints at having an API made available by the Socnet
> plugin that would help surface a permissions "widget" in any plugin that
> asks for it to be surfaced -- this is the beginnings of how content is
> secured and stored for social networks.
>
>
> -randy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:   Ruturaj Dhekane [mailto:ruturajmd at gmail.com]
> Sent:   Thu 3/18/2010 5:19 PM
> To:     geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> Cc:
> Subject:        [geeklog-devel] GSOC - Socnet
>
> Hi!
>
> I was looking at the Socnet Task, and would like post so that I understand
> it better.
> (here a user is referenced as a user is a entity, all other users are his
> friends)
>
> As few of the initial tasks suggest, there needs to be a big change in the
> group management for geeklog.
> A typical mechanism as seen in the other Social networking sites is,
>
> A user creates groups (friends, family, students)
> Permission to view a document is given to the groups. Can It be individual
> members also? Probably yes, cause some friends might not be categorized
> into
> any group by the user.
> *
> *
> Following this, A friend needs to connect to the user, this is a request
> accept mechanism. A user might choose not to have a accept, and all
> requests
> are automatically accepted.
>
> He should be able to move the friends in the groups and delete them
> *Do we need to think of having a friend part of multiple groups?*
> *
> *
> And finally notifying the friend that content has changed by the user.
> I think here a lot of new ideas can be put in cause the present structure
> of
> notification by other social networking sites is either spam-like email or
> cluttered windows.
>
> A idea would be to use a socnet specific page per user on which he gets all
> the updates.
> he should be able to categorize the updates or stop receiving them.
> One of the current trends is to allow social networking sites to work with
> wide variety of mashups, so a api could be provided to allow users
> to/develop quick mashup that use socnet.
>
> The Ideas page was pretty self explainatory, but I just want to be sure, I
> understand the problem and its requirements completely.
>
> Regards
> Ruturaj
>
> --
> [Geekru2]
>
>
>
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From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Sat Mar 20 09:54:30 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 09:54:30 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC - Socnet
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F357126@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>



>1. A user Profile page on which all activity 
>streams are shown, from each of his friends 
>and himself/herself. This is a single point 
>web based notification area.

Good idea.


>2. The second is to stream the notification. 
>This can be designed according to the Atom 
>feed standards. The user might choose to 
>make these feeds email based, through which 
>he will get email notification for them. As 
>discussed above, the format of notifications 
>should be standardized across all projects, 
>even calendar and core notification support, 
>because the services can be scaled to mix 
>with each other in the future (or even now).
>This profile page must be very easy to manage 
>and must not clutter up the user space.
>I think this Socnet is more of a community 
>builder across GL, and must be provided good 
>backend support so that other services can 
>build over it in the ?future.


Not sure how this will shape up for socnet.  Going to have a physical feed file that somehow checks for membership?  RSS file of changes that is easily downloaded by anyone that is not in that feed?




>However the admins of GL should be able 
>to administer those end user groups as well.
>I was wondering how an admin can keep a tab 
>on the different groups a end user is 
>creating. It might become?unmanageable.

This is a must-have feature.  The gsoc student who will be chosen must have a way for GL admins to drill into a user's groups and admin them.  The admin could, frankly, care less about someone's social group until there are issues to deal with. 

-randy


From av_mittal at ymail.com  Sat Mar 20 10:09:53 2010
From: av_mittal at ymail.com (Ashish Mittal)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 07:09:53 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Introduce myself
Message-ID: <180730.66322.qm@web59404.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>

Hello all, 

I am Ashish Mittal from India inspired to take part?in Gsoc?this year with?Geeklog as mentoring organization.

I'd like to introduce myself. I am an under-graduate student pursuing Bachelors in CE. I?have done many projects- in?open source tech. as well as non-open source.?My recent projects include creating website for my college festival(www.spacethefest.com?- built on HMTL/CSS, major use of jQuery, and the flash part not done by me but includes the PHP scripts created by me), board game in .NET and an Augmented Reality app. I am well versed with?web languages like HTML, CSS, PHP, Javascript, Ajax, JAVA, .NET. Some of my past projects were?UI design based projects. 

I would like to participate for the Improve Configuration GUI project. Progressively, I will try to pick up a thorough insight into the project requirements and try to merge myself into this development sting.?
?
Would be glad on recieving suggestions.?

Regards,
?-Ashish Mittal
(av_mittal at ymail.com) 

Computer Engg Student
Sardar Patel Inst Of Tech. 


      
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From aqrowles at gmail.com  Sat Mar 20 10:25:48 2010
From: aqrowles at gmail.com (Anthony Rowles)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:25:48 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC - Calendar plugin
Message-ID: <7e64bec31003200725n2e32d063x341ea2a03fe7b87@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all,

My name is Tony Rowles - I'm a computer engineering student at Carnegie
Mellon, and I'm interested in writing a new calendar plugin for Geeklog.
 I've done something similar in some software I wrote for a previous
employer, so I'm familiar with a lot of the calendar standards and common
pitfalls.

As I get started thinking about the design, I just wanted to ask: is it safe
to assume I can use jQuery?  I read that Geeklog will use jQuery in future
versions, but wasn't sure if that was set in stone or not.  Thanks!

-Tony
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sat Mar 20 10:35:13 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:35:13 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Introduce myself
In-Reply-To: <180730.66322.qm@web59404.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
References: <180730.66322.qm@web59404.mail.ac4.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20100320143513.1208938674@smtp.haun-online.de>

Ashish Mittal wrote:

>I would like to participate for the Improve Configuration GUI project.
>Progressively, I will try to pick up a thorough insight into the project
>requirements and try to merge myself into this development sting.?
>?
>Would be glad on recieving suggestions.?

Well, there are two parts to this project: The access control and the
GUI improvements. For the access control bits, I'd suggest you start by
looking into how Geeklog's permission system works (Groups, Rights) then
see if the suggestions on the ideas page make sense or if there are
other ways to achieve this. The GUI bits, I would hope, are already
spelled out in detail.

Feel free to ask any specific questions that may arise.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From dirk at haun-online.de  Sat Mar 20 10:36:24 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 15:36:24 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Introduction - (Google SoC more Spam-X modules)
In-Reply-To: <845786d51003200343r60daeb91l13fa9f5e8032f22c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <845786d51003200343r60daeb91l13fa9f5e8032f22c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100320143624.1281326423@smtp.haun-online.de>

Sumesh KS wrote:

>I read your ideas for Google Summer of code 2010. i am interested in working
>"New modules for our Spam
>filter<http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_more_Spam-X_modules>".
>I read the feature request mentioned in the idea list and i like to
>implement these ideas.

So, have you had a chance to look at how Spam-X works yet? Any specific
questions?

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From iamsumesh at gmail.com  Sat Mar 20 10:45:26 2010
From: iamsumesh at gmail.com (Sumesh KS)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 20:15:26 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Introduction - (Google SoC more Spam-X modules)
In-Reply-To: <20100320143624.1281326423@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <845786d51003200343r60daeb91l13fa9f5e8032f22c@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100320143624.1281326423@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <845786d51003200745n6c941dd9y7d1b477c87ad5628@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Drik,

thanks for reply. now iam studying the spam-X. and it's working.

bye,Sumesh.

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:

> Sumesh KS wrote:
>
> >I read your ideas for Google Summer of code 2010. i am interested in
> working
> >"New modules for our Spam
> >filter<http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_more_Spam-X_modules>".
> >I read the feature request mentioned in the idea list and i like to
> >implement these ideas.
>
> So, have you had a chance to look at how Spam-X works yet? Any specific
> questions?
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.geeklog.net/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sat Mar 20 11:14:43 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 16:14:43 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC - Calendar plugin
In-Reply-To: <7e64bec31003200725n2e32d063x341ea2a03fe7b87@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7e64bec31003200725n2e32d063x341ea2a03fe7b87@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100320151443.1451645725@smtp.haun-online.de>

Anthony Rowles wrote:

>As I get started thinking about the design, I just wanted to ask: is it safe
>to assume I can use jQuery?

Yes, it is.


>I read that Geeklog will use jQuery in future
>versions, but wasn't sure if that was set in stone or not.

It's mostly a chicken-and-egg problem at this point :) We don't ship
jQuery with Geeklog yet since there's no code that uses it and there's
no code that uses it because we don't ship it yet ... You can help break
this vicious circle.

Btw, the Configuration GUI project also mentions jQuery.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From rasade88 at gmail.com  Sat Mar 20 12:49:08 2010
From: rasade88 at gmail.com (Ramindu Deshapriya)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 22:19:08 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
Message-ID: <c86c05ef1003200949o1590310by749f9861c6e28ae7@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I am an undergraduate of Information Technology at the University of
Moratuwa, Sri Lanka and I have 2 years' experience working with PHP. I have
worked on Content Management Systems such as Joomla as well, developing
extensions according to PEAR standards. I was interested in working on an
opensource CMS as a GSoC 2010 project, and Geeklog caught my eye. As I have
some knowledge developing e-commerce applications using PHP, I think I will
be able to develop a suitable plugin for Geeklog that will allow e-commerce
functions such as online funds transfer and online purchases possible. I am
currently studying the development tutorials for Geeklog and hope to
contribute to the bug tracker soon.
Any feedback you could provide on the feasibility/usefulness of this project
and on any specific requirements that you would like to see included within
the plugin would be appreciated.

Thank You!

-- 
Yours Truly,
Ramindu Deshapriya.
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From tuxcanfly at gmail.com  Sat Mar 20 14:11:20 2010
From: tuxcanfly at gmail.com (Jakh Daven)
Date: Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:41:20 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC - Socnet
In-Reply-To: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F357126@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F357126@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
Message-ID: <8cceeceb1003201111t12861753rb84036a11520cb2b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Randy,

Thanks for your response.

How about a 'Find my friends' and 'Invite friends'  based on gmail/yahoo
contact list?

I understand that email addresses of users are only accessible to the site
admin, so this is likely to pose a security threat. Maybe we can have a
socnet configuration setting to turn it on/off?

Thanks,
Jakh

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 7:24 PM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca>wrote:

>
>
> >1. A user Profile page on which all activity
> >streams are shown, from each of his friends
> >and himself/herself. This is a single point
> >web based notification area.
>
> Good idea.
>
>
> >2. The second is to stream the notification.
> >This can be designed according to the Atom
> >feed standards. The user might choose to
> >make these feeds email based, through which
> >he will get email notification for them. As
> >discussed above, the format of notifications
> >should be standardized across all projects,
> >even calendar and core notification support,
> >because the services can be scaled to mix
> >with each other in the future (or even now).
> >This profile page must be very easy to manage
> >and must not clutter up the user space.
> >I think this Socnet is more of a community
> >builder across GL, and must be provided good
> >backend support so that other services can
> >build over it in the  future.
>
>
> Not sure how this will shape up for socnet.  Going to have a physical feed
> file that somehow checks for membership?  RSS file of changes that is easily
> downloaded by anyone that is not in that feed?
>
>
>
>
> >However the admins of GL should be able
> >to administer those end user groups as well.
> >I was wondering how an admin can keep a tab
> >on the different groups a end user is
> >creating. It might become unmanageable.
>
> This is a must-have feature.  The gsoc student who will be chosen must have
> a way for GL admins to drill into a user's groups and admin them.  The admin
> could, frankly, care less about someone's social group until there are
> issues to deal with.
>
> -randy
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sat Mar 20 19:37:13 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:37:13 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Un-cluttering the geeklog.net front page
Message-ID: <20100320233713.1790451948@smtp.haun-online.de>

Over the years, a lot of stuff has accumulated on the geeklog.net front
page. So before we even start to think about a new design for the site,
we should do a little spring cleaning.

Of all the stuff that is there, what do we really need?

We tried to cram lots of links and information into that one page,
thinking that it should all be accessible from one place. But there's so
much on there now that the page looks cramped and confusing - and as a
result, people still don't find things, even when they are there (somewhere).

The site uses a standard layout - pretty much the same that you get when
you do a fresh install of Geeklog. We shouldn't be afraid to use a
different arrangement, though. We would still have the demo site to show
off the defaults.

So: Do we really need to display 5 stories? How about 3, 2, or even just
1? Do we need to display the last 10 forum topics or would a link to the
forum be enough? There's a lot of content in the side blocks - what
needs to be on the front page and what could be moved to other pages?
And could we move some of the side block content into the center once
we've gained some estate there (by reducing the number of stories, for
example)? Something along those lines.

Request for brainstorming ...

bye, Dirk

P.S. Reminder: This is not about the theme, it's about the content.
Small steps, please. One thing after another.


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Sun Mar 21 00:07:27 2010
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 00:07:27 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Un-cluttering the geeklog.net front page
In-Reply-To: <20100320233713.1790451948@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <20100320233713.1790451948@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <035f01cac8ac$04d46940$0e7d3bc0$@net>

Initial Thoughts

- The Shoutbox block can go.
- Set a width for the theme
- Need to have a center block staticpage at the top designed with new users
in mind. It should direct them where to download Geeklog and how to get
started. The staticpage should have a few nice graphics with the information
to dress up the homepage a bit. (like Joomla or Wordpress has)
- I like the forum center block, it should stay.
- Consider using one of the menu plugins to better organize our resources.

More ideas to come ...

Tom



-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun
Sent: March-20-10 7:37 PM
To: geeklog-devel
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Un-cluttering the geeklog.net front page

Over the years, a lot of stuff has accumulated on the geeklog.net front
page. So before we even start to think about a new design for the site,
we should do a little spring cleaning.

Of all the stuff that is there, what do we really need?

We tried to cram lots of links and information into that one page,
thinking that it should all be accessible from one place. But there's so
much on there now that the page looks cramped and confusing - and as a
result, people still don't find things, even when they are there
(somewhere).

The site uses a standard layout - pretty much the same that you get when
you do a fresh install of Geeklog. We shouldn't be afraid to use a
different arrangement, though. We would still have the demo site to show
off the defaults.

So: Do we really need to display 5 stories? How about 3, 2, or even just
1? Do we need to display the last 10 forum topics or would a link to the
forum be enough? There's a lot of content in the side blocks - what
needs to be on the front page and what could be moved to other pages?
And could we move some of the side block content into the center once
we've gained some estate there (by reducing the number of stories, for
example)? Something along those lines.

Request for brainstorming ...

bye, Dirk

P.S. Reminder: This is not about the theme, it's about the content.
Small steps, please. One thing after another.


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http://geeklog.info/

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From info at heatherengineering.com  Sun Mar 21 00:30:34 2010
From: info at heatherengineering.com (Euan McKay)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:30:34 +0900
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Un-cluttering the geeklog.net front page
In-Reply-To: <035f01cac8ac$04d46940$0e7d3bc0$@net>
References: <20100320233713.1790451948@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<035f01cac8ac$04d46940$0e7d3bc0$@net>
Message-ID: <db993b421003202130hb0fa6e0r6d2298e111d0fb1a@mail.gmail.com>

Initial thoughts:

- Bounties and sponsors block should be more visible
- International links can lose the description to save space
- Get rid of older stories block?

Euan.


On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 13:07, Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net> wrote:
> Initial Thoughts
>
> - The Shoutbox block can go.
> - Set a width for the theme
> - Need to have a center block staticpage at the top designed with new users
> in mind. It should direct them where to download Geeklog and how to get
> started. The staticpage should have a few nice graphics with the information
> to dress up the homepage a bit. (like Joomla or Wordpress has)
> - I like the forum center block, it should stay.
> - Consider using one of the menu plugins to better organize our resources.
>
> More ideas to come ...
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
> [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun
> Sent: March-20-10 7:37 PM
> To: geeklog-devel
> Subject: [geeklog-devel] Un-cluttering the geeklog.net front page
>
> Over the years, a lot of stuff has accumulated on the geeklog.net front
> page. So before we even start to think about a new design for the site,
> we should do a little spring cleaning.
>
> Of all the stuff that is there, what do we really need?
>
> We tried to cram lots of links and information into that one page,
> thinking that it should all be accessible from one place. But there's so
> much on there now that the page looks cramped and confusing - and as a
> result, people still don't find things, even when they are there
> (somewhere).
>
> The site uses a standard layout - pretty much the same that you get when
> you do a fresh install of Geeklog. We shouldn't be afraid to use a
> different arrangement, though. We would still have the demo site to show
> off the defaults.
>
> So: Do we really need to display 5 stories? How about 3, 2, or even just
> 1? Do we need to display the last 10 forum topics or would a link to the
> forum be enough? There's a lot of content in the side blocks - what
> needs to be on the front page and what could be moved to other pages?
> And could we move some of the side block content into the center once
> we've gained some estate there (by reducing the number of stories, for
> example)? Something along those lines.
>
> Request for brainstorming ...
>
> bye, Dirk
>
> P.S. Reminder: This is not about the theme, it's about the content.
> Small steps, please. One thing after another.
>
>
> --
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> http://geeklog.info/
>
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From hiten.r.chauhan at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 02:27:03 2010
From: hiten.r.chauhan at gmail.com (hitendra chauhan)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:57:03 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] SocNet
Message-ID: <50dc4f9f1003202327m410a1d1dq9c0fe80ce3ecd536@mail.gmail.com>

Exactly, it would be better if we do not allow group member to publish
irrelevent content but there will be a problem,how it be decided about
the nature of the content,
mean to say whether the content is irrelevent or not

Blacklisting the group will allow a clean and better communication and
sharing of views.As the would be blacklisted group may post, for
examplesome script that may cause unintended action.
This problem i have seen in Orkut where clicking on the link causes
hacking of the account and after every thing goes wrong and wrong.

Coming to chat session apart from using the plugin for chat.
We can include some plugin that can help to chat from people from
other networking sites or messengers.
I don't have any idea about how it can be done.
Please have a look on this problem.

As far as the individual task are concerned. We can have photo
tagging, uploading photographs,videos etc, creating events and
notification in the calendar, keeping track of recent visitors, etc

-- 
Hitendra Chauhan


From iamsumesh at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 03:51:15 2010
From: iamsumesh at gmail.com (Sumesh KS)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 13:21:15 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Introduction - (Google SoC more Spam-X modules)
In-Reply-To: <845786d51003200745n6c941dd9y7d1b477c87ad5628@mail.gmail.com>
References: <845786d51003200343r60daeb91l13fa9f5e8032f22c@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100320143624.1281326423@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<845786d51003200745n6c941dd9y7d1b477c87ad5628@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <845786d51003210051h5fe4eb2aq5271d9a7a52b5e92@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Drik,

i installed geeklog and now studying the code. i encountered a bug during
installnation. blank password causing error. i solved it my commenting
statements in "lib-intall.php" in

function INST_dbConnect($db)
{
/*if (empty($db['pass'])) {
        return false;
    }
*/
.....
....
....
....
}

it works well in mysql and installnation finished sucesfully.
i checked this in

   - Apache/2.2.14 (Win32) DAV/2 mod_ssl/2.2.14 OpenSSL/0.9.8l
   mod_autoindex_color PHP/5.3.1 mod_apreq2-20090110/2.7.1 mod_perl/2.0.4
   Perl/v5.10.1
   - MySQL client version: 5.1.41
   - PHP extension: mysqli


i don't checked in MSSQL or PSQL.

checking api of other spam spam services are in progress.

Sumesh.

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Sumesh KS <iamsumesh at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Drik,
>
> thanks for reply. now iam studying the spam-X. and it's working.
>
> bye,Sumesh.
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 8:06 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
>
>> Sumesh KS wrote:
>>
>> >I read your ideas for Google Summer of code 2010. i am interested in
>> working
>> >"New modules for our Spam
>> >filter<http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_more_Spam-X_modules>".
>> >I read the feature request mentioned in the idea list and i like to
>> >implement these ideas.
>>
>> So, have you had a chance to look at how Spam-X works yet? Any specific
>> questions?
>>
>> bye, Dirk
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.geeklog.net/
>> http://geeklog.info/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sun Mar 21 05:21:58 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 10:21:58 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Introduction - (Google SoC more Spam-X modules)
In-Reply-To: <845786d51003210051h5fe4eb2aq5271d9a7a52b5e92@mail.gmail.com>
References: <845786d51003200343r60daeb91l13fa9f5e8032f22c@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100320143624.1281326423@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<845786d51003200745n6c941dd9y7d1b477c87ad5628@mail.gmail.com>
	<845786d51003210051h5fe4eb2aq5271d9a7a52b5e92@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100321092158.108244781@smtp.haun-online.de>

Sumesh KS wrote:

>i installed geeklog and now studying the code. i encountered a bug during
>installnation. blank password causing error. i solved it my commenting
>statements in "lib-intall.php" in

Well, with our focus on security, the real bug here is that we don't
provide a more informative error message ;-)

A few people have run into this recently, so I've made a change now to
allow empty passwords again. But I really think that we should handle
this differently, e.g. by printing a warning.

See <http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=923> for details.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Sun Mar 21 09:04:28 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:04:28 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC - Socnet
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F357127@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>

That could be of use.  However that means implementing 3rd party APIs
for gmail/yahoo etc to fetch addresses.  I would hate for some sort of
gmail/yahoo exploit happening thanks to some sort of malformed request
from such a service that Geeklog would provide.

 

Since Geeklog's slogan is now "the secure CMS", it may not mesh with
that philosophy so well ;-)

 

 

 

From: Jakh Daven [mailto:tuxcanfly at gmail.com] 
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 2:11 PM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] GSOC - Socnet

 

Hi Randy,

 

Thanks for your response.

 

How about a 'Find my friends' and 'Invite friends'  based on gmail/yahoo
contact list?

 

I understand that email addresses of users are only accessible to the
site admin, so this is likely to pose a security threat. Maybe we can
have a socnet configuration setting to turn it on/off?

 

Thanks,

Jakh

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From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Sun Mar 21 09:09:34 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:09:34 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] SocNet
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F357128@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>

> Exactly, it would be better if we do not allow group member to publish
> irrelevent content but there will be a problem,how it be decided about
> the nature of the content,
> mean to say whether the content is irrelevent or not

I would think the community would complain about a piece of content as
being malicious no?


> 
> Blacklisting the group will allow a clean and better communication and
> sharing of views.As the would be blacklisted group may post, for
> examplesome script that may cause unintended action.
> This problem i have seen in Orkut where clicking on the link causes
> hacking of the account and after every thing goes wrong and wrong.
> 


But if I'm part of a socnet group and I am not the owner of the
malicious content, why should I get punished for someone else's
malicious content?  I don't understand that concept.



> Coming to chat session apart from using the plugin for chat.
> We can include some plugin that can help to chat from people from
> other networking sites or messengers.
> I don't have any idea about how it can be done.
> Please have a look on this problem.

If you feel chat is part of socnet, then add that to your Socnet
application.  I didn't put that in as I don't feel that socnet is a
mechanism to deliver chat services.



> 
> As far as the individual task are concerned. We can have photo
> tagging, uploading photographs,videos etc, creating events and
> notification in the calendar, keeping track of recent visitors, etc
> 


What you just outlined is all part of other plugins or mechanisms no?




From hiten.r.chauhan at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 09:53:14 2010
From: hiten.r.chauhan at gmail.com (hitendra chauhan)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 19:23:14 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] SocNet
Message-ID: <50dc4f9f1003210653i186bfba4x8e25b082ba4b41eb@mail.gmail.com>

*>I would think the community would complain about a piece of content as *
*>being malicious no?*
I understood how to decide about the nature of content posted by the
community whether malicious or not.


*>But if I'm part of a socnet group and I am not the owner of the
>malicious content, why should I get punished for someone else's
>malicious content?*
you are telling the right point that i should not be punished if I'm not the
owner of malicious content.
but sometimes what happens is someone hacked your account by some means and
other group members reports abuse for the individual. Then that account is
generally blocked by the administrator.
What to do in that case.


>If you feel chat is part of socnet, then add that to your Socnet
>application. I didn't put that in as I don't feel that socnet is a
>mechanism to deliver chat services.

I agree socnet is not a chat delivery services but if we include it ,it
would be its additional feature.


>What you just outlined is all part of other plugins or mechanisms no?

Yes, it is better to use the available plugin.

-- 
Hitendra Chauhan
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From rasade88 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 10:55:59 2010
From: rasade88 at gmail.com (Ramindu Deshapriya)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 20:25:59 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
Message-ID: <c86c05ef1003210755x1084a128t5874a0cd4e4e637@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I am an undergraduate of Information Technology at the University of
Moratuwa, Sri Lanka and I have 2 years' experience working with PHP. I have
worked on Content Management Systems such as Joomla as well, developing
extensions according to PEAR standards. I was interested in working on an
opensource CMS as a GSoC 2010 project, and Geeklog caught my eye. As I have
some knowledge developing e-commerce applications using PHP, I think I will
be able to develop a suitable plugin for Geeklog that will allow e-commerce
functions such as online funds transfer and online purchases possible. I am
currently studying the development tutorials for Geeklog and hope to
contribute to the bug tracker soon.
Any feedback you could provide on the feasibility/usefulness of this project
and on any specific requirements that you would like to see included within
the plugin would be appreciated.
Thank You!
-- 
Yours Truly,
Ramindu Deshapriya.
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From coolneerav4u at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 12:20:24 2010
From: coolneerav4u at gmail.com (Neerav Mehta)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 09:20:24 -0700
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoc -Proposal:need assistance
Message-ID: <d64cc4d41003210920t108c6e96i6f3a230adb9847e1@mail.gmail.com>

Hello ,
 I am Neerav UG student from India, I am wishing to work for Geeklog in GSoc
.
In the calender pluggin I my idea is to put it on side of the page like poll
is there  so that it will be visible everytime.
I am also attaching an image with this mail which will make clear the
appearence of this pluggin.
In this image on clicking the "more options " link calender will become
enlarge & will show futher options like making a new calender,
modifying,adding or deleting the events.
Adding remainder etc.
Rightnow I am learning the Geeklog API so will you suggest me more on
this...
Is there any existing plugin related to calender where I can get the
help????

-- 
Neerav Mehta
B-Tech Part IV
Electronics Engg.
I.T. BHU
Varanasi
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From sami at sbarakat.co.uk  Sun Mar 21 12:32:15 2010
From: sami at sbarakat.co.uk (Sami Barakat)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 16:32:15 +0000
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Un-cluttering the geeklog.net front page
In-Reply-To: <035f01cac8ac$04d46940$0e7d3bc0$@net>
References: <20100320233713.1790451948@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<035f01cac8ac$04d46940$0e7d3bc0$@net>
Message-ID: <4BA64A0F.3030701@sbarakat.co.uk>

These point are taken from the perspective of a new user coming to 
Geeklog.net, they wont have a user account and they wont know much about 
Geeklog. So we should put the most useful information right at the top.


Right Blocks

Tom wrote:
> - Need to have a center block staticpage at the top designed with new users
> in mind. It should direct them where to download Geeklog and how to get
> started. The staticpage should have a few nice graphics with the information
> to dress up the homepage a bit. (like Joomla or Wordpress has)
+1 from me. I think the "What is Geeklog?" block should be moved to the 
centre, above the featured story. And change it to say "Welcome to 
Geeklog" or something similar, phrasing it is a question makes you feel 
like your taking a test or something. It also says that we're not even 
sure what it is and we need to remind ourselves.

> - I like the forum center block, it should stay.
+1, it keeps the homepage up to date with the latest user generated 
happenings, which shows there's a vibrant community.

Euan McKay wrote:
 > - International links can lose the description to save space
+1

The "Who's New" block does not really need to be there, it doesn't give 
any value. Or at-least move it lower down so it doesn't have such a 
prominent position, under "User Functions" maybe?

The "Bounties!" block is only relevant to developers, not the average 
user. It should be removed, you can get to it from the link under the 
Development section. But this may cause issues with the Sponsors, so 
that part of it can stay.


Left Blocks

Euan McKay wrote:
 > - Get rid of older stories block?
+1

The What's New Block can be moved to the right, under Who's Online, it 
shouldn't be hidden away beneath the fold.


Links at the top

- Remove Contribute Link
If your not logged in your presented with an error message, not helpful 
to new users. Can this only be shown when you are logged in?

- Remove Calendar Link
The last event thats in the calendar was in Aug 2009, it doesn't seem to 
be used that often. There is no point showing new users an empty calendar.

- Remove Advanced Search Link
You can already get to the advanced search from the link under the 
search box, it doesn't need to be there as well.

Sami


From vfuria at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 14:15:26 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:15:26 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
In-Reply-To: <c86c05ef1003200949o1590310by749f9861c6e28ae7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c86c05ef1003200949o1590310by749f9861c6e28ae7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8319e2d61003211115q35d3d149ib0cda1398c1fc34d@mail.gmail.com>

 Ramindu,

I'm glad you've taken an interest in the e-commerce project. We have not
defined the requirements very clearly, but our thought was that an existing
(GPL) e-commerce or shopping cart program could be incorporated into a
Geeklog plugin. Of course you'd have to overlay Geeklog's security model and
implement the plugin API. That would allow products/services to available
based on user/group permissions and allow the entire thing to be integrated
into a Geeklog site.

I'd suggest spending some time exploring Geeklog, with emphasis on how the
security/permissions model works.

As for specific requirements, they haven't been well defined for any of the
ideas on the brain storming page. That places a bit more of a burden (and
added flexibility) on you to define the project's goals in your application.

Let me know if you have any further questions.

-Vinny

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
> I am an undergraduate of Information Technology at the University of
> Moratuwa, Sri Lanka and I have 2 years' experience working with PHP. I have
> worked on Content Management Systems such as Joomla as well, developing
> extensions according to PEAR standards. I was interested in working on an
> opensource CMS as a GSoC 2010 project, and Geeklog caught my eye. As I have
> some knowledge developing e-commerce applications using PHP, I think I will
> be able to develop a suitable plugin for Geeklog that will allow e-commerce
> functions such as online funds transfer and online purchases possible. I am
> currently studying the development tutorials for Geeklog and hope to
> contribute to the bug tracker soon.
> Any feedback you could provide on the feasibility/usefulness of this
> project and on any specific requirements that you would like to see included
> within the plugin would be appreciated.
>
> Thank You!
>
> --
> Yours Truly,
> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
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From th3iedkid at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 14:26:33 2010
From: th3iedkid at gmail.com (ganesh)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 23:56:33 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] gsoc notification system
Message-ID: <c841dae1003211126w5b966353n53d421dc79fbc106@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Mr.Dirk and to all the developers ,
Hello there!


Well you were right in assuming  about the SOAP getting used directly,
because i have been trying to develop a lightweight JSON-RPC scheme under
php for some time now for my pet-project.Currently i use a C++ based json
scheme to respond due to my efficiency considerations, i however combined it
with php with leveled caching scheme i developed for it to handle heavy
requests. I chose* json because of its ajaxian benefits* i derive by
delegating the user requests into different levels i classified them into so
that these requests could be cached out based on the level they belong to.

However could you help me point the possible damage json-rpc based schemes
could do, and the damages of  json could also be specifically pointed out if
possible for them getting used in the notification system structurally.

I havent been able read all the discussions on last year's notification
system idea for gsoc due to the local connectivity problems i faced for some
time, now tht its back n running i will go through  them,thanks a lot for
the link , it gave an excellent start for the skeletal design i wish to make
for the notification system

Thanks and regards
Ganesh

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:

> ganesh wrote:
>
> >As for the notification service under the core ,i was thinking in the
> lines
> >of SOAP model for a web-service which could provide a scheme for event
> >reception,confirmation and notification.If i were to develop a core API
> >under these lines , the services provided  could then be used by the
> plugins
> >and other actors with the under-core implementation staying opaque.Please
> >check me in my line of thought if am going in the right direction.
>
> Yes, I think that's a good general subscription of the idea. Actually,
> you mentioning SOAP scared me a bit ;-) But I think you really only
> meant that, effectively, this would be along the lines of what SOAP
> tries to accomplish and you are not suggesting to actually use SOAP
> here, right? Just checking ...
>
> If you haven't done so, you should also read through the past discussion
> (linked from the wiki page). I see that Konstantin's draft is still
> available:
>
>    http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dd4t2984_0cf3526cd
>
> You may be able to draw some inspiration from that as well.
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.geeklog.net/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 14:45:27 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 12:45:27 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoc -Proposal:need assistance
In-Reply-To: <d64cc4d41003210920t108c6e96i6f3a230adb9847e1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <d64cc4d41003210920t108c6e96i6f3a230adb9847e1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8319e2d61003211145o525992f2rcc1c1f8001f8d6ea@mail.gmail.com>

Neerav,

It's great to hear your interest on this project.

I think your attachment didn't make it onto the email, but I understand what
describing.. Part of the Calendar project is a "calendar block". The
"calendar block" is similar to what you describe, and I think it is a good
part of the project.

Any of the existing plugins would be good to look at to see what is required
when creating a plugin. The existing calendar plugin is a decent reference,
though we're hoping for something significantly better to replace it.

If you have any more specific questions, please let us know.

Thanks for your interest,
-Vinny

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 10:20 AM, Neerav Mehta <coolneerav4u at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello ,
>  I am Neerav UG student from India, I am wishing to work for Geeklog in
> GSoc .
> In the calender pluggin I my idea is to put it on side of the page like
> poll is there  so that it will be visible everytime.
> I am also attaching an image with this mail which will make clear the
> appearence of this pluggin.
> In this image on clicking the "more options " link calender will become
> enlarge & will show futher options like making a new calender,
> modifying,adding or deleting the events.
> Adding remainder etc.
> Rightnow I am learning the Geeklog API so will you suggest me more on
> this...
> Is there any existing plugin related to calender where I can get the
> help????
>
> --
> Neerav Mehta
> B-Tech Part IV
> Electronics Engg.
> I.T. BHU
> Varanasi
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
>
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From wojtek.szkutnik at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 16:02:13 2010
From: wojtek.szkutnik at gmail.com (Wojtek Szkutnik)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:02:13 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] gsoc notification system
In-Reply-To: <c841dae1003211126w5b966353n53d421dc79fbc106@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c841dae1003211126w5b966353n53d421dc79fbc106@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2b0fd5c41003211302q5882c33cyfd412a80bc8f07b7@mail.gmail.com>

Hello!

Whoa, guys, SOAP, RPC, JSON? Really? Correct my if I'm wrong, wasn't the
goal of this task creating something inside the system? The JSON stuff is
great for communication between web apps etc but what's the point of using
it on the inside? I was thinking about implementing something more
listener-like, close to the scheme from the document. A set of
listeners/observers/"event throwers" would do the trick very well, without
any unnecessary sophistication. * **Simple is better than complex**. Complex
is better than complicated.** *, right? ;-)

Best Regards,
Wojtek Szkutnik


On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 7:26 PM, ganesh <th3iedkid at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Mr.Dirk and to all the developers ,
> Hello there!
>
>
> Well you were right in assuming  about the SOAP getting used directly,
> because i have been trying to develop a lightweight JSON-RPC scheme under
> php for some time now for my pet-project.Currently i use a C++ based json
> scheme to respond due to my efficiency considerations, i however combined it
> with php with leveled caching scheme i developed for it to handle heavy
> requests. I chose* json because of its ajaxian benefits* i derive by
> delegating the user requests into different levels i classified them into so
> that these requests could be cached out based on the level they belong to.
>
> However could you help me point the possible damage json-rpc based schemes
> could do, and the damages of  json could also be specifically pointed out if
> possible for them getting used in the notification system structurally.
>
> I havent been able read all the discussions on last year's notification
> system idea for gsoc due to the local connectivity problems i faced for some
> time, now tht its back n running i will go through  them,thanks a lot for
> the link , it gave an excellent start for the skeletal design i wish to make
> for the notification system
>
> Thanks and regards
> Ganesh
>
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
>
>> ganesh wrote:
>>
>> >As for the notification service under the core ,i was thinking in the
>> lines
>> >of SOAP model for a web-service which could provide a scheme for event
>> >reception,confirmation and notification.If i were to develop a core API
>> >under these lines , the services provided  could then be used by the
>> plugins
>> >and other actors with the under-core implementation staying opaque.Please
>> >check me in my line of thought if am going in the right direction.
>>
>> Yes, I think that's a good general subscription of the idea. Actually,
>> you mentioning SOAP scared me a bit ;-) But I think you really only
>> meant that, effectively, this would be along the lines of what SOAP
>> tries to accomplish and you are not suggesting to actually use SOAP
>> here, right? Just checking ...
>>
>> If you haven't done so, you should also read through the past discussion
>> (linked from the wiki page). I see that Konstantin's draft is still
>> available:
>>
>>    http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dd4t2984_0cf3526cd
>>
>> You may be able to draw some inspiration from that as well.
>>
>> bye, Dirk
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.geeklog.net/
>> http://geeklog.info/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
>
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From srishti.srishti.roy00 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 16:24:49 2010
From: srishti.srishti.roy00 at gmail.com (Srishti Roy)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 01:54:49 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] inserting a record into "storysubmission" table in
	story.php
Message-ID: <e64f32d91003211324t7a1b040w75ec3649dce05d3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi

I am unable to figure where exactly is the code for inserting a record into
this table "storysubmission" in story.php. Can somebody please help me with
this?

Thanks!
Srishti
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sun Mar 21 16:23:44 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:23:44 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] gsoc notification system
In-Reply-To: <2b0fd5c41003211302q5882c33cyfd412a80bc8f07b7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c841dae1003211126w5b966353n53d421dc79fbc106@mail.gmail.com>
	<2b0fd5c41003211302q5882c33cyfd412a80bc8f07b7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100321202344.1493409866@smtp.haun-online.de>

Wojtek Szkutnik wrote:

>Whoa, guys, SOAP, RPC, JSON? Really? Correct my if I'm wrong, wasn't the
>goal of this task creating something inside the system?

Yep, hence my surprise when SOAP popped up in the original email.

SOAP itself is hardly a good idea. Even less so when used for internal
communications ...


>**Simple is better than complex**. Complex
>is better than complicated.** *, right? ;-)

"Never make anything simple and efficient when a way can be found to
make it complex and wonderful."

;-)

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From dirk at haun-online.de  Sun Mar 21 16:37:34 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 21:37:34 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] inserting a record into "storysubmission" table
 in story.php
In-Reply-To: <e64f32d91003211324t7a1b040w75ec3649dce05d3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e64f32d91003211324t7a1b040w75ec3649dce05d3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100321203734.182881205@smtp.haun-online.de>

Srishti Roy wrote:

>I am unable to figure where exactly is the code for inserting a record into
>this table "storysubmission" in story.php. Can somebody please help me with
>this?

system/classes/story.class.php, function saveSubmission()

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From shashanktodwal at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 16:53:53 2010
From: shashanktodwal at gmail.com (Shashank Todwal)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:23:53 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] inserting a record into "storysubmission" table
	in story.php
In-Reply-To: <20100321203734.182881205@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <e64f32d91003211324t7a1b040w75ec3649dce05d3@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100321203734.182881205@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <e900a7e71003211353k1b52a271q838a1911aae52598@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Dirk.

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:

> Srishti Roy wrote:
>
> >I am unable to figure where exactly is the code for inserting a record
> into
> >this table "storysubmission" in story.php. Can somebody please help me
> with
> >this?
>
> system/classes/story.class.php, function saveSubmission()
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.geeklog.net/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
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From srishti.srishti.roy00 at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 17:11:27 2010
From: srishti.srishti.roy00 at gmail.com (Srishti Roy)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:41:27 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] inserting a record into "storysubmission" table
	in story.php
In-Reply-To: <20100321203734.182881205@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <e64f32d91003211324t7a1b040w75ec3649dce05d3@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100321203734.182881205@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <e64f32d91003211411w4d75c9d4q282b58dec006a33a@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you Dirk. Just one more ques: How does a user without srory admin
rights create a new story?

Just wanted to confirm: Only in the above case, the story will go for
moderation and will be seen in submissions link for an admin. Isn't it?

Thanks!
Srishti

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 2:07 AM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:

>  Srishti Roy wrote:
>
> >I am unable to figure where exactly is the code for inserting a record
> into
> >this table "storysubmission" in story.php. Can somebody please help me
> with
> >this?
>
> system/classes/story.class.php, function saveSubmission()
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.geeklog.net/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sun Mar 21 17:18:04 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 22:18:04 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] inserting a record into "storysubmission" table
 in story.php
In-Reply-To: <e64f32d91003211411w4d75c9d4q282b58dec006a33a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e64f32d91003211324t7a1b040w75ec3649dce05d3@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100321203734.182881205@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<e64f32d91003211411w4d75c9d4q282b58dec006a33a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100321211804.485942193@smtp.haun-online.de>

Srishti Roy wrote:

>Thank you Dirk. Just one more ques: How does a user without srory admin
>rights create a new story?
>
>Just wanted to confirm: Only in the above case, the story will go for
>moderation and will be seen in submissions link for an admin. Isn't it?

It all depends on this:

  if (($_CONF['storysubmission'] == 1) && !SEC_hasRights('story.submit')) {

So if the story submission queue is enabled and the current user does
not have story.submit permissions, then the story goes into the
submission queue. Otherwise, it's published.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From admin at gedex.web.id  Sun Mar 21 18:15:15 2010
From: admin at gedex.web.id (Akeda Bagus)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 05:15:15 +0700
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Un-cluttering the geeklog.net front page
In-Reply-To: <20100320233713.1790451948@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <20100320233713.1790451948@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <57e6ac5b1003211515n6975af6fka959dfae741f31fb@mail.gmail.com>

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 6:37 AM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
> Over the years, a lot of stuff has accumulated on the geeklog.net front
> page. So before we even start to think about a new design for the site,
> we should do a little spring cleaning.
>
> Of all the stuff that is there, what do we really need?
>
> We tried to cram lots of links and information into that one page,
> thinking that it should all be accessible from one place. But there's so
> much on there now that the page looks cramped and confusing - and as a
> result, people still don't find things, even when they are there (somewhere).
>
> The site uses a standard layout - pretty much the same that you get when
> you do a fresh install of Geeklog. We shouldn't be afraid to use a
> different arrangement, though. We would still have the demo site to show
> off the defaults.
>
> So: Do we really need to display 5 stories? How about 3, 2, or even just
> 1? Do we need to display the last 10 forum topics or would a link to the
> forum be enough? There's a lot of content in the side blocks - what
> needs to be on the front page and what could be moved to other pages?
> And could we move some of the side block content into the center once
> we've gained some estate there (by reducing the number of stories, for
> example)? Something along those lines.
>
> Request for brainstorming ...
>
> bye, Dirk
>
> P.S. Reminder: This is not about the theme, it's about the content.
> Small steps, please. One thing after another.

- "What's is Geeklog" block should be moved to center top as a user
tends to focus on the top center view.
- I would prioritize the top center view to be more usable. A lot of
informations for new comers need to be placed on that top center view.
- Give the new comers scheenshot of Geeklog, still on that top center view.
- Give big download button that attract attentions, still on that top
center view.
- Bundle those information into one block on the top center with tab
or carousel effect.

-- 
regards,
gedex


From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Sun Mar 21 20:28:49 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 20:28:49 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] SocNet
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F35712A@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>


> you are telling the right point that
> i should not be punished if I'm not
> the owner of malicious content.
> but sometimes what happens is someone
> hacked your account by some means and
> other?group members reports abuse for 
> the individual. Then that account is 
> generally blocked by the administrator.
> What to do in that case.
?
I guess what you're suggesting is that when there may be malicious content created, a group's content should be blacklisted as a whole and not necessarily the user.  THAT is a good approach.

?
> I agree socnet is not a chat delivery 
> services but if we include it ,it would 
> be its additional feature.

Simply put, Chat for GL would rely on Socnet's APIs.  




From akashmkj at gmail.com  Sun Mar 21 22:52:37 2010
From: akashmkj at gmail.com (Akash Mukherjee)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 08:22:37 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Hello World!!!!!
Message-ID: <ef28c2f11003211952g662a159cudf880133c5b857cc@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I am Akash Mukherjee a student pursuing an Engineering degree in Information
Technology based in Ranchi, India.

I have had pretty good experience with LAMP while creating a slew of
websites for different socities at my college. A number of them were built
using some CMSs- chielfly Drupal & Joomla but I have had some experience
with others like Phpdb, Wordpress and Elgg & Geeklog.
I have been part of a 2 member team and we successfully completed &
implemented a Dispensary Management System required for the computerization
of our college's Medical Centre. The system was designed using PHP & MySQL
and hosted on an Apache Server. Currently we are working on a version 2.0 of
the Management System.

I have always been a fan of Social netwoking and would definitely like to
contribute towards the development of the Socnet plugin. I would share my
ideas in the later posts as I would first like to catch up with current
discussion regarding the same.

Hoping to gel with all the other marketing members and reach the dreams all
of us have.


With warm regards,

Akash Mukherjee
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From th3iedkid at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 02:31:19 2010
From: th3iedkid at gmail.com (ganesh)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:01:19 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] gsoc notification system
In-Reply-To: <20100321202344.1493409866@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <c841dae1003211126w5b966353n53d421dc79fbc106@mail.gmail.com>
	<2b0fd5c41003211302q5882c33cyfd412a80bc8f07b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100321202344.1493409866@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <c841dae1003212331p24e38584u53d6bdfb3ed9e40f@mail.gmail.com>

hi

Oh! Well herez the plan i had in mind for the outside view of the
notification system
->To develop an effective API for plugins to use we could have information
structurally stored as JSON
->The effective notification system could use a single function call to get
the information stored in as JSON and then use that information to notify
which could have the various arguments to specify the kind of information it
wants
->The same API could provide ease of notification for any other mode of
notification...what i mean by this is this API could help someone else build
say a firefox addon or could be used to make another of those social
mashups. I thought of this because of the fact emails are'nt always the best
means to notify in terms urgency.
->To provide a base set of plugins utilizing the API as an example ...like a
marker in the index page after a user logs in.

*&
Well as for the notifications they need not be too verbose  in the kind of
information they provide most of the times, thus even something like twitter
or any other micro-blog service could be used to comment.

Now for some of the objectives
-> Extend the plugin API's to use the new services
 I want the developers making new plugins using this notification service to
be at ease..

I would'nt directly put in the exact system of notification like email/rss
etc  into the core API which is getting used by the plugins, i would have to
modularize it to  another module like something separate for emails, another
for rss and so on..

the other objectives

   - Develop the notification admin / site admin screen
   - Develop the UI and program for the users to manage their notification
   subscription rules.

might use the json illustrating the AJAXian benefits of it.
another objective

Now as for the notification service , this needs to be efficient because the
same API could get called millions of times , assuming a highly active
discussion in the secure CMS, now this needs an effcient API that gets used
just more than often. Caching is effective only until a certain extent,
beyond which i learnt out of my own experience that it really slows down
things.So i would need something that also increases the efficiency even
when the API interface gets called often.

Also we would need to flush out the old information frequently so that the
existing information doesn't get clobbered up.

I wanted to know if the idea is really going good with the goals of a secure
cms

thanks and regards
ganesh

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 1:53 AM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:

> Wojtek Szkutnik wrote:
>
> >Whoa, guys, SOAP, RPC, JSON? Really? Correct my if I'm wrong, wasn't the
> >goal of this task creating something inside the system?
>
> Yep, hence my surprise when SOAP popped up in the original email.
>
> SOAP itself is hardly a good idea. Even less so when used for internal
> communications ...
>
>
> >**Simple is better than complex**. Complex
> >is better than complicated.** *, right? ;-)
>
> "Never make anything simple and efficient when a way can be found to
> make it complex and wonderful."
>
> ;-)
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.geeklog.net/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
> _______________________________________________
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> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
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From hiten.r.chauhan at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 03:37:21 2010
From: hiten.r.chauhan at gmail.com (hitendra chauhan)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:07:21 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] SocNet
Message-ID: <50dc4f9f1003220037nd94104dt984175a7195b4b29@mail.gmail.com>

(1) There may be cases where a user does not belong to any group.
    In that situation is it possible to have a one to one sharing of
information ?
Let say, I have created a group and some of users who are in my friend list
do not belong to any group. and if they want to communnicate with other
users without joining to the group (other users belong to). So we must have
one to one communication.
I think this should be must have feature.

(2) One more idea we can include to make a group famous in the site. By
flashing the group logo or tagline in other groups as a advertisement. This
promotion of group  will be decided by the other group members by looking at
the advertisment,if they like the group. Now if the promotion hits for a
particular group increases more and more the advertisement will be shown
more frequently in other groups.

(3)  What type of information to be shared?
      Is it text,picture,audio,video?
      if text is one of them we can have some html support.



Hitendra Chauhan
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From wilfer.sis at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 07:21:19 2010
From: wilfer.sis at gmail.com (William Garcia)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 06:21:19 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Proposal idea
Message-ID: <991e66d91003220421n70742f2by2ff290ece4993d1f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi..
I'm student Systems Engineering at UIS [1],I am interested in collaborating
with this project, my idea is develop a generator of plugins using Model
Driven Architecture for geeklog.

I have developed some projects using using openarchitectureware Based on MDA
[2], the idea is to make a "generator generic"  to build plugins for geeklog
easily or at least reduce the development time of a plugin.

What do think about this idea? this idea would be feasible?

[1] www.uis.edu.co
[1] www.openarchitectureware.org
-- 
William Fernando Garcia Mu?oz
Estudiante Ingenieria de Sistemas
Comunidad Universitaria de Software Libre
Cusol- UIS
Tel 312 557 4736
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From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Mon Mar 22 07:24:01 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 07:24:01 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] SocNet
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834AE@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>


>(1) There may be cases where a user does 
>not belong to any group. 
>??? In that situation is it possible to 
>have a one to one sharing of information ?
Let say, I have created a group and some of 
>users who are in my friend list do not 
>belong to any group. and if they want to 
>communnicate with other users without 
>joining to the group (other users belong to). 
>So we must have one to one communication.
>I think this should be must have feature.
?
Socnet just provides the APIs to other plugins.  If one of those APIs is to give ad-hoc subscription abilities to a single user, then that is where Socnet begins and ends for communication.




>(2) One more idea we can include to make a 
>group famous in the site. By flashing the 
>group logo or tagline in other groups as a 
>advertisement. This promotion of group? will 
>be decided by the other group members by 
>looking at the advertisment,if they like 
>the group. Now if the promotion hits for a 
>particular group increases more and more 
>the advertisement will be shown more 
>frequently in other groups.

The initial version of Socnet could probably do without this feature.  I would hate to have a student not complete the requirements due to an overwhelming number of added features.


?
>(3)??What type of information to be shared?
>??????Is it text,picture,audio,video?
>????? if text is one of them we can have some html support.
?

Shared information?  This is up to the plugin that implements Socnet.



From rasade88 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 10:50:19 2010
From: rasade88 at gmail.com (Ramindu Deshapriya)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:20:19 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
In-Reply-To: <8319e2d61003211115q35d3d149ib0cda1398c1fc34d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c86c05ef1003200949o1590310by749f9861c6e28ae7@mail.gmail.com>
	<8319e2d61003211115q35d3d149ib0cda1398c1fc34d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c86c05ef1003220750t34a28aefm23e021e73261d4f3@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Vinny!

I was thinking of looking at a few shopping cart extensions written for
other CMS's, e.g. Ubercart for Drupal and VirtueMart for Joomla, and getting
an idea of how they are integrated into the individual CMSs. Of course, when
building something similar for Geeklog, the security considerations that are
needed for any form of Geeklog development will have to be paid extra
attention to.

As per the discussion with Dirk on the IRC channel:
Dirk was worried about how an extension such as a Shopping Cart Plugin could
be patched and updated along with new updates of Geeklog and to secure the
channels of communication opened by the plugin whenever a new security
threat develops. In my view, the only sure-fire way to ensure the
continuation of any opensource project needing a long-term commitment is to
get the help of the community. For this plugin, I plan to build up a
community of a predefined number of developers (I was thinking at least 3
lead developers), of which I will also be a member,  who will be on-call to
provide any patches/bug fixes/updates. That way we can ensure the
continuation of the project after GSoC. I will include this within the scope
of my project, and clearly define how I plan to build up this community
within the project proposal.
Any ideas regarding this?

Thanks!

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Ramindu,
>
> I'm glad you've taken an interest in the e-commerce project. We have not
> defined the requirements very clearly, but our thought was that an existing
> (GPL) e-commerce or shopping cart program could be incorporated into a
> Geeklog plugin. Of course you'd have to overlay Geeklog's security model and
> implement the plugin API. That would allow products/services to available
> based on user/group permissions and allow the entire thing to be integrated
> into a Geeklog site.
>
> I'd suggest spending some time exploring Geeklog, with emphasis on how the
> security/permissions model works.
>
> As for specific requirements, they haven't been well defined for any of the
> ideas on the brain storming page. That places a bit more of a burden (and
> added flexibility) on you to define the project's goals in your application.
>
> Let me know if you have any further questions.
>
> -Vinny
>
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>> I am an undergraduate of Information Technology at the University of
>> Moratuwa, Sri Lanka and I have 2 years' experience working with PHP. I have
>> worked on Content Management Systems such as Joomla as well, developing
>> extensions according to PEAR standards. I was interested in working on an
>> opensource CMS as a GSoC 2010 project, and Geeklog caught my eye. As I have
>> some knowledge developing e-commerce applications using PHP, I think I will
>> be able to develop a suitable plugin for Geeklog that will allow e-commerce
>> functions such as online funds transfer and online purchases possible. I am
>> currently studying the development tutorials for Geeklog and hope to
>> contribute to the bug tracker soon.
>> Any feedback you could provide on the feasibility/usefulness of this
>> project and on any specific requirements that you would like to see included
>> within the plugin would be appreciated.
>>
>> Thank You!
>>
>> --
>> Yours Truly,
>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>


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Ramindu Deshapriya.
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From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Mon Mar 22 11:07:50 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:07:50 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834AF@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>

Keep in mind, cart extensions such as ubercart have  many, many, many,
many (did I say Many yet) users and thus people willing to support it.

Your best bet may be to do some sort of integration of an existing and
well established cart so that you're not blindsided with security issues
that are bound to arise from this.  Just my $0.02.

 

-randy

 

 

 

From: Ramindu Deshapriya [mailto:rasade88 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 10:50 AM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart
plugin

 

Thanks Vinny!

 

I was thinking of looking at a few shopping cart extensions written for
other CMS's, e.g. Ubercart for Drupal and VirtueMart for Joomla, and
getting an idea of how they are integrated into the individual CMSs. Of
course, when building something similar for Geeklog, the security
considerations that are needed for any form of Geeklog development will
have to be paid extra attention to. 

 

As per the discussion with Dirk on the IRC channel:

Dirk was worried about how an extension such as a Shopping Cart Plugin
could be patched and updated along with new updates of Geeklog and to
secure the channels of communication opened by the plugin whenever a new
security threat develops. In my view, the only sure-fire way to ensure
the continuation of any opensource project needing a long-term
commitment is to get the help of the community. For this plugin, I plan
to build up a community of a predefined number of developers (I was
thinking at least 3 lead developers), of which I will also be a member,
who will be on-call to provide any patches/bug fixes/updates. That way
we can ensure the continuation of the project after GSoC. I will include
this within the scope of my project, and clearly define how I plan to
build up this community within the project proposal.

Any ideas regarding this?

 

Thanks!

On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>
wrote:

 Ramindu,

 

I'm glad you've taken an interest in the e-commerce project. We have not
defined the requirements very clearly, but our thought was that an
existing (GPL) e-commerce or shopping cart program could be incorporated
into a Geeklog plugin. Of course you'd have to overlay Geeklog's
security model and implement the plugin API. That would allow
products/services to available based on user/group permissions and allow
the entire thing to be integrated into a Geeklog site.

 

I'd suggest spending some time exploring Geeklog, with emphasis on how
the security/permissions model works.

 

As for specific requirements, they haven't been well defined for any of
the ideas on the brain storming page. That places a bit more of a burden
(and added flexibility) on you to define the project's goals in your
application.

 

Let me know if you have any further questions.

 

-Vinny

On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya
<rasade88 at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,

I am an undergraduate of Information Technology at the University of
Moratuwa, Sri Lanka and I have 2 years' experience working with PHP. I
have worked on Content Management Systems such as Joomla as well,
developing extensions according to PEAR standards. I was interested in
working on an opensource CMS as a GSoC 2010 project, and Geeklog caught
my eye. As I have some knowledge developing e-commerce applications
using PHP, I think I will be able to develop a suitable plugin for
Geeklog that will allow e-commerce functions such as online funds
transfer and online purchases possible. I am currently studying the
development tutorials for Geeklog and hope to contribute to the bug
tracker soon.

Any feedback you could provide on the feasibility/usefulness of this
project and on any specific requirements that you would like to see
included within the plugin would be appreciated.

 

Thank You!


-- 
Yours Truly,
Ramindu Deshapriya.


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From iamsumesh at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 14:14:03 2010
From: iamsumesh at gmail.com (Sumesh KS)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 23:44:03 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Introduction - (Google SoC more Spam-X modules)
In-Reply-To: <20100321092158.108244781@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <845786d51003200343r60daeb91l13fa9f5e8032f22c@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100320143624.1281326423@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<845786d51003200745n6c941dd9y7d1b477c87ad5628@mail.gmail.com>
	<845786d51003210051h5fe4eb2aq5271d9a7a52b5e92@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100321092158.108244781@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <845786d51003221114j2f19823dl3094e43d0d784c7d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Drik,

Thanks for replay.

regards,
Sumesh.

On 3/21/10, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
>
> Sumesh KS wrote:
>
> >i installed geeklog and now studying the code. i encountered a bug during
> >installnation. blank password causing error. i solved it my commenting
> >statements in "lib-intall.php" in
>
>
> Well, with our focus on security, the real bug here is that we don't
> provide a more informative error message ;-)
>
> A few people have run into this recently, so I've made a change now to
> allow empty passwords again. But I really think that we should handle
> this differently, e.g. by printing a warning.
>
> See <http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=923> for details.
>
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.geeklog.net/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Mon Mar 22 15:01:58 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 20:01:58 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Proposal idea
In-Reply-To: <991e66d91003220421n70742f2by2ff290ece4993d1f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <991e66d91003220421n70742f2by2ff290ece4993d1f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100322190158.1901950332@smtp.haun-online.de>

William Garcia wrote:

>my idea is develop a generator of plugins using Model
>Driven Architecture for geeklog.
(...)
>What do think about this idea? this idea would be feasible?

There's <http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Plugin_Toolkit> but it hasn't
been going anywhere for a while now. And it's just straigthforward
programming, not using any proper generators.

Your approach sounds interesting and we could certainly use a plugin
generator of sorts. I don't know a lot about MDA - maybe you could
provide a little more detail about your approach?

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From vfuria at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 17:22:16 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:22:16 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
In-Reply-To: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834AF@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834AF@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
Message-ID: <8319e2d61003221422h590dde8ah63314692918f6eaf@mail.gmail.com>

I'm on the same page as Randy. There are already some really good shopping
cart/e-commerce (PHP) applications out there. Implementing one from scratch
is a bit much to take on over a Summer.

A good application for an e-commerce plugin would include research into the
different available applications and chosen one based on features and
ability (and ease) to integrate with Geeklog. I envision this project to be
a "port" of an application, where only a subset of the code would have to be
kept up to date by the maintainer and new releases from the chosen
application could be integrated fairly easily.

-Vinny

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca>wrote:

>  Keep in mind, cart extensions such as ubercart have  many, many, many,
> many (did I say Many yet) users and thus people willing to support it.
>
> Your best bet may be to do some sort of integration of an existing and well
> established cart so that you?re not blindsided with security issues that are
> bound to arise from this.  Just my $0.02.
>
>
>
> -randy
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ramindu Deshapriya [mailto:rasade88 at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Monday, March 22, 2010 10:50 AM
> *To:* Geeklog Development
> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart
> plugin
>
>
>
> Thanks Vinny!
>
>
>
> I was thinking of looking at a few shopping cart extensions written for
> other CMS's, e.g. Ubercart for Drupal and VirtueMart for Joomla, and getting
> an idea of how they are integrated into the individual CMSs. Of course, when
> building something similar for Geeklog, the security considerations that are
> needed for any form of Geeklog development will have to be paid extra
> attention to.
>
>
>
> As per the discussion with Dirk on the IRC channel:
>
> Dirk was worried about how an extension such as a Shopping Cart Plugin
> could be patched and updated along with new updates of Geeklog and to secure
> the channels of communication opened by the plugin whenever a new security
> threat develops. In my view, the only sure-fire way to ensure the
> continuation of any opensource project needing a long-term commitment is to
> get the help of the community. For this plugin, I plan to build up a
> community of a predefined number of developers (I was thinking at least 3
> lead developers), of which I will also be a member,  who will be on-call to
> provide any patches/bug fixes/updates. That way we can ensure the
> continuation of the project after GSoC. I will include this within the scope
> of my project, and clearly define how I plan to build up this community
> within the project proposal.
>
> Any ideas regarding this?
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Ramindu,
>
>
>
> I'm glad you've taken an interest in the e-commerce project. We have not
> defined the requirements very clearly, but our thought was that an existing
> (GPL) e-commerce or shopping cart program could be incorporated into a
> Geeklog plugin. Of course you'd have to overlay Geeklog's security model and
> implement the plugin API. That would allow products/services to available
> based on user/group permissions and allow the entire thing to be integrated
> into a Geeklog site.
>
>
>
> I'd suggest spending some time exploring Geeklog, with emphasis on how the
> security/permissions model works.
>
>
>
> As for specific requirements, they haven't been well defined for any of the
> ideas on the brain storming page. That places a bit more of a burden (and
> added flexibility) on you to define the project's goals in your application.
>
>
>
> Let me know if you have any further questions.
>
>
>
> -Vinny
>
> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I am an undergraduate of Information Technology at the University of
> Moratuwa, Sri Lanka and I have 2 years' experience working with PHP. I have
> worked on Content Management Systems such as Joomla as well, developing
> extensions according to PEAR standards. I was interested in working on an
> opensource CMS as a GSoC 2010 project, and Geeklog caught my eye. As I have
> some knowledge developing e-commerce applications using PHP, I think I will
> be able to develop a suitable plugin for Geeklog that will allow e-commerce
> functions such as online funds transfer and online purchases possible. I am
> currently studying the development tutorials for Geeklog and hope to
> contribute to the bug tracker soon.
>
> Any feedback you could provide on the feasibility/usefulness of this
> project and on any specific requirements that you would like to see included
> within the plugin would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Thank You!
>
>
> --
> Yours Truly,
> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
>
>
>
> --
> Yours Truly,
> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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From chetan1 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 17:36:26 2010
From: chetan1 at gmail.com (Chetan)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 03:06:26 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC Proposal - Spam Module
Message-ID: <87faaf411003221436ka64af31l44df73dddb613197@mail.gmail.com>

Hey,

I am interesting in working on adding new services and developing a SWOT
module for the Spam-X module. I have written a proposal which can be read
here:
http://chetan.thinkgrayscale.com/Chetan_Spam_Filter.pdf

Please give your suggestions and feedback!

-- 
Regards,

Chetan Bansal
Undergraduate | BITS Pilani, Goa Campus - India
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From wilfer.sis at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 18:03:13 2010
From: wilfer.sis at gmail.com (William Garcia)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 17:03:13 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Proposal idea
In-Reply-To: <20100322190158.1901950332@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <991e66d91003220421n70742f2by2ff290ece4993d1f@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100322190158.1901950332@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <991e66d91003221503r42d80849t3cf2299a711315dd@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

Model-driven architecture is a software design approach for the development
of software systems [1],

To make the generator for create a generic metamodel, metamodel is designed
into the tables and relationships for the model at this point may include
rules for when generating the code, these rules would be data types,
constraints and behaviors entities.
Given the model, institutions and rules are generated, the installer, views
and controllers of complement. The idea is to design a very good metamodel,
so that later can be used to make any plugins for geeklog .

The idea is to build the generator  and test generating  a pluguin as  poll
or any other.

I have used MDA to develop complex software on php and the advantage is you
can reuse the Meta-saving  development time.

[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Model_Driven_Architecture

2010/3/22 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>

> William Garcia wrote:
>
> >my idea is develop a generator of plugins using Model
> >Driven Architecture for geeklog.
> (...)
> >What do think about this idea? this idea would be feasible?
>
> There's <http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Plugin_Toolkit> but it hasn't
> been going anywhere for a while now. And it's just straigthforward
> programming, not using any proper generators.
>
> Your approach sounds interesting and we could certainly use a plugin
> generator of sorts. I don't know a lot about MDA - maybe you could
> provide a little more detail about your approach?
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.geeklog.net/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>



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Comunidad Universitaria de Software Libre
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From rasade88 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 20:24:20 2010
From: rasade88 at gmail.com (Ramindu Deshapriya)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 05:54:20 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
In-Reply-To: <8319e2d61003221422h590dde8ah63314692918f6eaf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834AF@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
	<8319e2d61003221422h590dde8ah63314692918f6eaf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c86c05ef1003221724u44cc7359jc248a3a10ab8b8cb@mail.gmail.com>

I see.
Thanks for your ideas.
So I will have to include which specific application I'll be integrating
into Geeklog in the proposal, right?
I was thinking VirtueMart, as it has been built in a more detached fashion
so that it can be used in any PHP/MySQL environment.
What do you think?

Thanks!

-Ramindu

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:52 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm on the same page as Randy. There are already some really good shopping
> cart/e-commerce (PHP) applications out there. Implementing one from scratch
> is a bit much to take on over a Summer.
>
> A good application for an e-commerce plugin would include research into the
> different available applications and chosen one based on features and
> ability (and ease) to integrate with Geeklog. I envision this project to be
> a "port" of an application, where only a subset of the code would have to be
> kept up to date by the maintainer and new releases from the chosen
> application could be integrated fairly easily.
>
> -Vinny
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca>wrote:
>
>>  Keep in mind, cart extensions such as ubercart have  many, many, many,
>> many (did I say Many yet) users and thus people willing to support it.
>>
>> Your best bet may be to do some sort of integration of an existing and
>> well established cart so that you?re not blindsided with security issues
>> that are bound to arise from this.  Just my $0.02.
>>
>>
>>
>> -randy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ramindu Deshapriya [mailto:rasade88 at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Monday, March 22, 2010 10:50 AM
>> *To:* Geeklog Development
>> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart
>> plugin
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks Vinny!
>>
>>
>>
>> I was thinking of looking at a few shopping cart extensions written for
>> other CMS's, e.g. Ubercart for Drupal and VirtueMart for Joomla, and getting
>> an idea of how they are integrated into the individual CMSs. Of course, when
>> building something similar for Geeklog, the security considerations that are
>> needed for any form of Geeklog development will have to be paid extra
>> attention to.
>>
>>
>>
>> As per the discussion with Dirk on the IRC channel:
>>
>> Dirk was worried about how an extension such as a Shopping Cart Plugin
>> could be patched and updated along with new updates of Geeklog and to secure
>> the channels of communication opened by the plugin whenever a new security
>> threat develops. In my view, the only sure-fire way to ensure the
>> continuation of any opensource project needing a long-term commitment is to
>> get the help of the community. For this plugin, I plan to build up a
>> community of a predefined number of developers (I was thinking at least 3
>> lead developers), of which I will also be a member,  who will be on-call to
>> provide any patches/bug fixes/updates. That way we can ensure the
>> continuation of the project after GSoC. I will include this within the scope
>> of my project, and clearly define how I plan to build up this community
>> within the project proposal.
>>
>> Any ideas regarding this?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>  Ramindu,
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm glad you've taken an interest in the e-commerce project. We have not
>> defined the requirements very clearly, but our thought was that an existing
>> (GPL) e-commerce or shopping cart program could be incorporated into a
>> Geeklog plugin. Of course you'd have to overlay Geeklog's security model and
>> implement the plugin API. That would allow products/services to available
>> based on user/group permissions and allow the entire thing to be integrated
>> into a Geeklog site.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'd suggest spending some time exploring Geeklog, with emphasis on how the
>> security/permissions model works.
>>
>>
>>
>> As for specific requirements, they haven't been well defined for any of
>> the ideas on the brain storming page. That places a bit more of a burden
>> (and added flexibility) on you to define the project's goals in your
>> application.
>>
>>
>>
>> Let me know if you have any further questions.
>>
>>
>>
>> -Vinny
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am an undergraduate of Information Technology at the University of
>> Moratuwa, Sri Lanka and I have 2 years' experience working with PHP. I have
>> worked on Content Management Systems such as Joomla as well, developing
>> extensions according to PEAR standards. I was interested in working on an
>> opensource CMS as a GSoC 2010 project, and Geeklog caught my eye. As I have
>> some knowledge developing e-commerce applications using PHP, I think I will
>> be able to develop a suitable plugin for Geeklog that will allow e-commerce
>> functions such as online funds transfer and online purchases possible. I am
>> currently studying the development tutorials for Geeklog and hope to
>> contribute to the bug tracker soon.
>>
>> Any feedback you could provide on the feasibility/usefulness of this
>> project and on any specific requirements that you would like to see included
>> within the plugin would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank You!
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yours Truly,
>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yours Truly,
>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
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>


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From vfuria at gmail.com  Mon Mar 22 23:11:10 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:11:10 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
In-Reply-To: <c86c05ef1003221724u44cc7359jc248a3a10ab8b8cb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834AF@nex-pluto.nextide.ca> 
	<8319e2d61003221422h590dde8ah63314692918f6eaf@mail.gmail.com> 
	<c86c05ef1003221724u44cc7359jc248a3a10ab8b8cb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8319e2d61003222011k7510d077v687486037cedb8f7@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know much about VirtueMart. If you think its a good choice to be
ported from Joomla to Geeklog, you can definitely write a proposal around
that. I would suggest that your proposal include a comprehensive review as
to why the application you've chosen is the best. A comparison to other
available applications (to show how you made your choice) would show your
thorough research.

-Vinny

On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:

> I see.
> Thanks for your ideas.
> So I will have to include which specific application I'll be integrating
> into Geeklog in the proposal, right?
> I was thinking VirtueMart, as it has been built in a more detached fashion
> so that it can be used in any PHP/MySQL environment.
> What do you think?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Ramindu
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:52 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm on the same page as Randy. There are already some really good shopping
>> cart/e-commerce (PHP) applications out there. Implementing one from scratch
>> is a bit much to take on over a Summer.
>>
>> A good application for an e-commerce plugin would include research into
>> the different available applications and chosen one based on features and
>> ability (and ease) to integrate with Geeklog. I envision this project to be
>> a "port" of an application, where only a subset of the code would have to be
>> kept up to date by the maintainer and new releases from the chosen
>> application could be integrated fairly easily.
>>
>> -Vinny
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca>wrote:
>>
>>>  Keep in mind, cart extensions such as ubercart have  many, many, many,
>>> many (did I say Many yet) users and thus people willing to support it.
>>>
>>> Your best bet may be to do some sort of integration of an existing and
>>> well established cart so that you?re not blindsided with security issues
>>> that are bound to arise from this.  Just my $0.02.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -randy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Ramindu Deshapriya [mailto:rasade88 at gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 22, 2010 10:50 AM
>>> *To:* Geeklog Development
>>> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart
>>> plugin
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks Vinny!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I was thinking of looking at a few shopping cart extensions written for
>>> other CMS's, e.g. Ubercart for Drupal and VirtueMart for Joomla, and getting
>>> an idea of how they are integrated into the individual CMSs. Of course, when
>>> building something similar for Geeklog, the security considerations that are
>>> needed for any form of Geeklog development will have to be paid extra
>>> attention to.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As per the discussion with Dirk on the IRC channel:
>>>
>>> Dirk was worried about how an extension such as a Shopping Cart Plugin
>>> could be patched and updated along with new updates of Geeklog and to secure
>>> the channels of communication opened by the plugin whenever a new security
>>> threat develops. In my view, the only sure-fire way to ensure the
>>> continuation of any opensource project needing a long-term commitment is to
>>> get the help of the community. For this plugin, I plan to build up a
>>> community of a predefined number of developers (I was thinking at least 3
>>> lead developers), of which I will also be a member,  who will be on-call to
>>> provide any patches/bug fixes/updates. That way we can ensure the
>>> continuation of the project after GSoC. I will include this within the scope
>>> of my project, and clearly define how I plan to build up this community
>>> within the project proposal.
>>>
>>> Any ideas regarding this?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Ramindu,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm glad you've taken an interest in the e-commerce project. We have not
>>> defined the requirements very clearly, but our thought was that an existing
>>> (GPL) e-commerce or shopping cart program could be incorporated into a
>>> Geeklog plugin. Of course you'd have to overlay Geeklog's security model and
>>> implement the plugin API. That would allow products/services to available
>>> based on user/group permissions and allow the entire thing to be integrated
>>> into a Geeklog site.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd suggest spending some time exploring Geeklog, with emphasis on how
>>> the security/permissions model works.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> As for specific requirements, they haven't been well defined for any of
>>> the ideas on the brain storming page. That places a bit more of a burden
>>> (and added flexibility) on you to define the project's goals in your
>>> application.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Let me know if you have any further questions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -Vinny
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I am an undergraduate of Information Technology at the University of
>>> Moratuwa, Sri Lanka and I have 2 years' experience working with PHP. I have
>>> worked on Content Management Systems such as Joomla as well, developing
>>> extensions according to PEAR standards. I was interested in working on an
>>> opensource CMS as a GSoC 2010 project, and Geeklog caught my eye. As I have
>>> some knowledge developing e-commerce applications using PHP, I think I will
>>> be able to develop a suitable plugin for Geeklog that will allow e-commerce
>>> functions such as online funds transfer and online purchases possible. I am
>>> currently studying the development tutorials for Geeklog and hope to
>>> contribute to the bug tracker soon.
>>>
>>> Any feedback you could provide on the feasibility/usefulness of this
>>> project and on any specific requirements that you would like to see included
>>> within the plugin would be appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thank You!
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yours Truly,
>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yours Truly,
>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Yours Truly,
> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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From verma.anand16 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 23 08:30:50 2010
From: verma.anand16 at gmail.com (anand verma)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 18:00:50 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Query
Message-ID: <1d8877a91003230530q3f7b5061sd4f37f19962b86b1@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,my name is Anand Verma.I am interested in SocNet project.
I would like to know the exact tools that would be used in the project
SocNet.
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From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Tue Mar 23 09:00:52 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:00:52 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Query
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F357138@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>

Hi Anand, 

 

The tools for development?  I guess that is up to you in the long run.
But Geeklog is written in PHP and uses MySQL as a database (postgres and
mssql as well, but mysql predominantly).

 

So for php development you're looking at either using a good text editor
or something like Eclipse PDT. For Mysql, using PHPmyAdmin is a safe
bet.

 

 

 

 

From: anand verma [mailto:verma.anand16 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:31 AM
To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net; contact-us at lists.geeklog.net
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Query

 

Hi,my name is Anand Verma.I am interested in SocNet project.
I would like to know the exact tools that would be used in the project
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From rasade88 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 23 13:21:04 2010
From: rasade88 at gmail.com (Ramindu Deshapriya)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 22:51:04 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
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Thank You. I will take this into consideration when writing the proposal.
BTW, will this 'port' kind of project require building up a new community or
will it be possible to somehow extend the VirtueMart community maintain
GeekLog's VirtueMart plugin? I think I might to discuss this with
VirtueMart's development team...

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:

> I don't know much about VirtueMart. If you think its a good choice to be
> ported from Joomla to Geeklog, you can definitely write a proposal around
> that. I would suggest that your proposal include a comprehensive review as
> to why the application you've chosen is the best. A comparison to other
> available applications (to show how you made your choice) would show your
> thorough research.
>
> -Vinny
>
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> I see.
>> Thanks for your ideas.
>> So I will have to include which specific application I'll be integrating
>> into Geeklog in the proposal, right?
>> I was thinking VirtueMart, as it has been built in a more detached fashion
>> so that it can be used in any PHP/MySQL environment.
>> What do you think?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Ramindu
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:52 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm on the same page as Randy. There are already some really good
>>> shopping cart/e-commerce (PHP) applications out there. Implementing one from
>>> scratch is a bit much to take on over a Summer.
>>>
>>> A good application for an e-commerce plugin would include research into
>>> the different available applications and chosen one based on features and
>>> ability (and ease) to integrate with Geeklog. I envision this project to be
>>> a "port" of an application, where only a subset of the code would have to be
>>> kept up to date by the maintainer and new releases from the chosen
>>> application could be integrated fairly easily.
>>>
>>> -Vinny
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Keep in mind, cart extensions such as ubercart have  many, many, many,
>>>> many (did I say Many yet) users and thus people willing to support it.
>>>>
>>>> Your best bet may be to do some sort of integration of an existing and
>>>> well established cart so that you?re not blindsided with security issues
>>>> that are bound to arise from this.  Just my $0.02.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -randy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Ramindu Deshapriya [mailto:rasade88 at gmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 22, 2010 10:50 AM
>>>> *To:* Geeklog Development
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping
>>>> Cart plugin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Vinny!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I was thinking of looking at a few shopping cart extensions written for
>>>> other CMS's, e.g. Ubercart for Drupal and VirtueMart for Joomla, and getting
>>>> an idea of how they are integrated into the individual CMSs. Of course, when
>>>> building something similar for Geeklog, the security considerations that are
>>>> needed for any form of Geeklog development will have to be paid extra
>>>> attention to.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As per the discussion with Dirk on the IRC channel:
>>>>
>>>> Dirk was worried about how an extension such as a Shopping Cart Plugin
>>>> could be patched and updated along with new updates of Geeklog and to secure
>>>> the channels of communication opened by the plugin whenever a new security
>>>> threat develops. In my view, the only sure-fire way to ensure the
>>>> continuation of any opensource project needing a long-term commitment is to
>>>> get the help of the community. For this plugin, I plan to build up a
>>>> community of a predefined number of developers (I was thinking at least 3
>>>> lead developers), of which I will also be a member,  who will be on-call to
>>>> provide any patches/bug fixes/updates. That way we can ensure the
>>>> continuation of the project after GSoC. I will include this within the scope
>>>> of my project, and clearly define how I plan to build up this community
>>>> within the project proposal.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas regarding this?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Ramindu,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'm glad you've taken an interest in the e-commerce project. We have not
>>>> defined the requirements very clearly, but our thought was that an existing
>>>> (GPL) e-commerce or shopping cart program could be incorporated into a
>>>> Geeklog plugin. Of course you'd have to overlay Geeklog's security model and
>>>> implement the plugin API. That would allow products/services to available
>>>> based on user/group permissions and allow the entire thing to be integrated
>>>> into a Geeklog site.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I'd suggest spending some time exploring Geeklog, with emphasis on how
>>>> the security/permissions model works.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As for specific requirements, they haven't been well defined for any of
>>>> the ideas on the brain storming page. That places a bit more of a burden
>>>> (and added flexibility) on you to define the project's goals in your
>>>> application.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you have any further questions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Vinny
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <
>>>> rasade88 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I am an undergraduate of Information Technology at the University of
>>>> Moratuwa, Sri Lanka and I have 2 years' experience working with PHP. I have
>>>> worked on Content Management Systems such as Joomla as well, developing
>>>> extensions according to PEAR standards. I was interested in working on an
>>>> opensource CMS as a GSoC 2010 project, and Geeklog caught my eye. As I have
>>>> some knowledge developing e-commerce applications using PHP, I think I will
>>>> be able to develop a suitable plugin for Geeklog that will allow e-commerce
>>>> functions such as online funds transfer and online purchases possible. I am
>>>> currently studying the development tutorials for Geeklog and hope to
>>>> contribute to the bug tracker soon.
>>>>
>>>> Any feedback you could provide on the feasibility/usefulness of this
>>>> project and on any specific requirements that you would like to see included
>>>> within the plugin would be appreciated.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank You!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Yours Truly,
>>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Yours Truly,
>>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yours Truly,
>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
>


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From vfuria at gmail.com  Tue Mar 23 15:29:26 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 13:29:26 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
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Certainly if VirtueMart is interested in maintaining your port
(presumably with your help) after you have finished it that would be an
ideal solution. Otherwise I think a good implementation would generate
enough interest in the Geeklog community to support the port going forward.
I'm glad that your thinking ahead to what will happen after the Summer.

It's important though, that your proposal makes it clear how you arrived at
a decision to chose which application to port. Guidelines like ease of
porting, community support (from Geeklog's and the application's
communities), and application features should all be considered.

Also, by the time you submit your final proposal, you should have a good
idea at how the integration will work so that you can hit the ground running
when the coding period begins. That probably means getting acquainted with
Geeklog's plugin API over the next few weeks.

-Vinny

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thank You. I will take this into consideration when writing the proposal.
> BTW, will this 'port' kind of project require building up a new community
> or will it be possible to somehow extend the VirtueMart community maintain
> GeekLog's VirtueMart plugin? I think I might to discuss this with
> VirtueMart's development team...
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't know much about VirtueMart. If you think its a good choice to be
>> ported from Joomla to Geeklog, you can definitely write a proposal around
>> that. I would suggest that your proposal include a comprehensive review as
>> to why the application you've chosen is the best. A comparison to other
>> available applications (to show how you made your choice) would show your
>> thorough research.
>>
>> -Vinny
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> I see.
>>> Thanks for your ideas.
>>> So I will have to include which specific application I'll be integrating
>>> into Geeklog in the proposal, right?
>>> I was thinking VirtueMart, as it has been built in a more detached
>>> fashion so that it can be used in any PHP/MySQL environment.
>>> What do you think?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> -Ramindu
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:52 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm on the same page as Randy. There are already some really good
>>>> shopping cart/e-commerce (PHP) applications out there. Implementing one from
>>>> scratch is a bit much to take on over a Summer.
>>>>
>>>> A good application for an e-commerce plugin would include research into
>>>> the different available applications and chosen one based on features and
>>>> ability (and ease) to integrate with Geeklog. I envision this project to be
>>>> a "port" of an application, where only a subset of the code would have to be
>>>> kept up to date by the maintainer and new releases from the chosen
>>>> application could be integrated fairly easily.
>>>>
>>>> -Vinny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Randy Kolenko <
>>>> Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  Keep in mind, cart extensions such as ubercart have  many, many,
>>>>> many, many (did I say Many yet) users and thus people willing to support it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your best bet may be to do some sort of integration of an existing and
>>>>> well established cart so that you?re not blindsided with security issues
>>>>> that are bound to arise from this.  Just my $0.02.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -randy
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Ramindu Deshapriya [mailto:rasade88 at gmail.com]
>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 22, 2010 10:50 AM
>>>>> *To:* Geeklog Development
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping
>>>>> Cart plugin
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks Vinny!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I was thinking of looking at a few shopping cart extensions written for
>>>>> other CMS's, e.g. Ubercart for Drupal and VirtueMart for Joomla, and getting
>>>>> an idea of how they are integrated into the individual CMSs. Of course, when
>>>>> building something similar for Geeklog, the security considerations that are
>>>>> needed for any form of Geeklog development will have to be paid extra
>>>>> attention to.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As per the discussion with Dirk on the IRC channel:
>>>>>
>>>>> Dirk was worried about how an extension such as a Shopping Cart Plugin
>>>>> could be patched and updated along with new updates of Geeklog and to secure
>>>>> the channels of communication opened by the plugin whenever a new security
>>>>> threat develops. In my view, the only sure-fire way to ensure the
>>>>> continuation of any opensource project needing a long-term commitment is to
>>>>> get the help of the community. For this plugin, I plan to build up a
>>>>> community of a predefined number of developers (I was thinking at least 3
>>>>> lead developers), of which I will also be a member,  who will be on-call to
>>>>> provide any patches/bug fixes/updates. That way we can ensure the
>>>>> continuation of the project after GSoC. I will include this within the scope
>>>>> of my project, and clearly define how I plan to build up this community
>>>>> within the project proposal.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any ideas regarding this?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  Ramindu,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm glad you've taken an interest in the e-commerce project. We have
>>>>> not defined the requirements very clearly, but our thought was that an
>>>>> existing (GPL) e-commerce or shopping cart program could be incorporated
>>>>> into a Geeklog plugin. Of course you'd have to overlay Geeklog's security
>>>>> model and implement the plugin API. That would allow products/services to
>>>>> available based on user/group permissions and allow the entire thing to be
>>>>> integrated into a Geeklog site.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd suggest spending some time exploring Geeklog, with emphasis on how
>>>>> the security/permissions model works.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> As for specific requirements, they haven't been well defined for any of
>>>>> the ideas on the brain storming page. That places a bit more of a burden
>>>>> (and added flexibility) on you to define the project's goals in your
>>>>> application.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know if you have any further questions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Vinny
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <
>>>>> rasade88 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I am an undergraduate of Information Technology at the University of
>>>>> Moratuwa, Sri Lanka and I have 2 years' experience working with PHP. I have
>>>>> worked on Content Management Systems such as Joomla as well, developing
>>>>> extensions according to PEAR standards. I was interested in working on an
>>>>> opensource CMS as a GSoC 2010 project, and Geeklog caught my eye. As I have
>>>>> some knowledge developing e-commerce applications using PHP, I think I will
>>>>> be able to develop a suitable plugin for Geeklog that will allow e-commerce
>>>>> functions such as online funds transfer and online purchases possible. I am
>>>>> currently studying the development tutorials for Geeklog and hope to
>>>>> contribute to the bug tracker soon.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any feedback you could provide on the feasibility/usefulness of this
>>>>> project and on any specific requirements that you would like to see included
>>>>> within the plugin would be appreciated.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank You!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Yours Truly,
>>>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Yours Truly,
>>>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yours Truly,
>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Yours Truly,
> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Tue Mar 23 15:48:19 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 20:48:19 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Proposal idea
In-Reply-To: <991e66d91003221503r42d80849t3cf2299a711315dd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <991e66d91003220421n70742f2by2ff290ece4993d1f@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100322190158.1901950332@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<991e66d91003221503r42d80849t3cf2299a711315dd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100323194819.255135035@smtp.haun-online.de>

William Garcia wrote:

>The idea is to build the generator  and test generating  a pluguin as  poll
>or any other.
>
>I have used MDA to develop complex software on php and the advantage is you
>can reuse the Meta-saving  development time.

That sounds like an interesting approach. I'm looking forward to reading
that proposal :) Feel free to include links on the theory behind all
that, but if you could try to explain things in layman's terms also,
that would be appreciated.


My main gripe with generators of any kind (including my own feeble
attempts) is that they are all one-time shots. I.e. you run the
generator and get a stub that you can then expand on. And then later,
there is an API change or something and you can't update what you've
already written but need to start over from scratch.

Does MDA offer any help here or does it suffer from the same problem?

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.haun-online.de/
http://geeklog.info/



From th3iedkid at gmail.com  Tue Mar 23 16:16:47 2010
From: th3iedkid at gmail.com (ganesh)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:46:47 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Gsoc Notification service
Message-ID: <c841dae1003231316k2219f9ddmab9c625e51762c67@mail.gmail.com>

Hi
I found a pear package on event-dispatcher based on the Observer pattern
http://pear.php.net/package/Event_Dispatcher
I also stumbled upon a sig-slot like implementation for php which might be
useful but its more-or less skeletal
http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/package/3624.html

If a similar sig-slot were to abstracted for the GL core which be extended
(in the php sense of it!) by the plug-ins, wouldn't plug-in development  be
easier? Like if an abstracted signal class with the following props like :
______________________________________
SIGNAL
->UTC  ; when generated
->Level ; Security level to it
->Code ; a unique code to it
->Who ; source , could be none for automated signals
____________________________________________
Slots
 ->cleanup ; when action to be taken
->action ; handle to function to be activated
->logStorePath ; this will refer to the place where the cleaned-up
notifications will be logged in files for future reference
->Code ; The code identifying the signal

When we have a plugin extending these , would it cause any security
problems??

I found the discussion on email handling and throttling in gsoc 2k8 on
notification service
http://eight.pairlist.net/pipermail/geeklog-devel/2008-March/003290.html
Well if GL were to put in place restrictions like frequency of signals
granted a slot on time basis ,would it still bear any other problem ?

Also for notification would something like bottom tool-bar using dojo/jQuery
to indicate the current notifications be good idea ?

tnx
ganesh
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From sleemanmunk at gmail.com  Tue Mar 23 21:18:27 2010
From: sleemanmunk at gmail.com (Samuel Leeman-Munk)
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 21:18:27 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Hello!
Message-ID: <f01705571003231818o735835a6v390d2108c1b250c4@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, I'm Sam.

I'm a senior computer science student at Earlham College in Richmond,
Indiana, and I'd like to help out with Geeklog for Summer of Code.
I actually have my own personal blog that I built from scratch and maintain
myself, so I'm interested how the pros do it.
>From what I've seen, I'd like to take a try at the cross-site publication
and the core notification services.
I'm just checking in now, but I'll have some more detailed ideas later.

Thanks,
Sam
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From hiten.r.chauhan at gmail.com  Tue Mar 23 22:40:29 2010
From: hiten.r.chauhan at gmail.com (hitendra chauhan)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 08:10:29 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] SocNet
Message-ID: <50dc4f9f1003231940k4305eb4dt2069ac990e60aeb6@mail.gmail.com>

*from the idea page-**The base Geeklog group structure needs to be altered
to support the notion of group ownership as well as group type.**Geeklog's
core code needs to be altered to support this functionality*
**
Is it really neccessory to alter the Geeklog group structure?
Can we not provide such a support by the SocNet plugin only ?

*
*--
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From iamsumesh at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 00:08:16 2010
From: iamsumesh at gmail.com (Sumesh KS)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 09:38:16 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Proposal- (Google SoC more Spam-X modules)
Message-ID: <845786d51003232108l292cc216v84c058a46198675c@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
I am interested in working "more spam-x modules". I send my introduction letter
 on previous week. I want to know when i send proposal. I am almost
finished studying geeklog spam module. Now checking each third party
anti spam services.

Regards,
Sumesh.


From wilfer.sis at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 02:23:23 2010
From: wilfer.sis at gmail.com (William Garcia)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:23:23 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Proposal idea
In-Reply-To: <20100323194819.255135035@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <991e66d91003220421n70742f2by2ff290ece4993d1f@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100322190158.1901950332@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<991e66d91003221503r42d80849t3cf2299a711315dd@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100323194819.255135035@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <991e66d91003232323l16452ebekaac1f6a701b76dff@mail.gmail.com>

hi,

I drafted the solid and  clear proposal, I hope to finish it this weekend.
Answering your question, when we create a pluguin using the generator, we
have to design it within a XMI, This XMI contains the data model, rules,
behaviors and other features including in the generator.
This file would be as the source of your plugin, so if we update the
generator is only load the XMI and generate the new version of the plugin. I
make that clear in my proposal.

bye,

2010/3/23 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>

> William Garcia wrote:
>
> >The idea is to build the generator  and test generating  a pluguin as
>  poll
> >or any other.
> >
> >I have used MDA to develop complex software on php and the advantage is
> you
> >can reuse the Meta-saving  development time.
>
> That sounds like an interesting approach. I'm looking forward to reading
> that proposal :) Feel free to include links on the theory behind all
> that, but if you could try to explain things in layman's terms also,
> that would be appreciated.
>
>
> My main gripe with generators of any kind (including my own feeble
> attempts) is that they are all one-time shots. I.e. you run the
> generator and get a stub that you can then expand on. And then later,
> there is an API change or something and you can't update what you've
> already written but need to start over from scratch.
>
> Does MDA offer any help here or does it suffer from the same problem?
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.haun-online.de/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>



-- 
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Estudiante Ingenieria de Sistemas
Comunidad Universitaria de Software Libre
Cusol- UIS
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Mar 24 02:55:41 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 07:55:41 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Proposal- (Google SoC more Spam-X modules)
In-Reply-To: <845786d51003232108l292cc216v84c058a46198675c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <845786d51003232108l292cc216v84c058a46198675c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100324065541.2048111258@smtp.haun-online.de>

Sumesh KS wrote:

> I want to know when i send proposal.

Officially, applications for students start next Monday. At that point,
you can submit your proposal through the web application at
socghop.appspot.com

But if you send us something now (either here or on contact-us), we can
have a look now and give you some early feedback.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From iamsumesh at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 04:46:45 2010
From: iamsumesh at gmail.com (Sumesh KS)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:16:45 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Proposal- (Google SoC more Spam-X modules)
In-Reply-To: <20100324065541.2048111258@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <845786d51003232108l292cc216v84c058a46198675c@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100324065541.2048111258@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <845786d51003240146o42abb7f2rf222bd70c53babc8@mail.gmail.com>

Hi dirk,
Thanks for reply. I will send my proposal to you. I need your help and
suggestion for improve proposal and successful completion of project.
Thanks alot.

Sumesh

On 3/24/10, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
> Sumesh KS wrote:
>
>> I want to know when i send proposal.
>
> Officially, applications for students start next Monday. At that point,
> you can submit your proposal through the web application at
> socghop.appspot.com
>
> But if you send us something now (either here or on contact-us), we can
> have a look now and give you some early feedback.
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.geeklog.net/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>


From debjitsaha87 at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 10:59:00 2010
From: debjitsaha87 at gmail.com (Debjit Saha)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:29:00 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Welcome to the "geeklog-devel" mailing list
	(Digest mode)
In-Reply-To: <mailman.0.1269442538.5675.geeklog-devel@lists.geeklog.net>
References: <mailman.0.1269442538.5675.geeklog-devel@lists.geeklog.net>
Message-ID: <6d8332eb1003240759n47e6478ma6d57ccc384cb362@mail.gmail.com>

Hi! I am Debjit and Greeting to everyone from India.

I was going through your project ideas for social networking (SocNet)
for Geeklog in GSOC 2010. Having already worked on facebook apps for
various projects and startups, I have a couple of ideas that I would
like to share with you which could make Geeklog not only more socially
accessible but also encourage the users to collaborate things with the
use of social media. I have also done some onsite implementation for
buddypress which happens to be the social networking addon to
wordpress CMS so I have a good idea about things. Can any interested
mentor possibly guide me on going about the socnet project..

Cheers,
Debjit


From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Wed Mar 24 11:25:07 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:25:07 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Welcome to the "geeklog-devel" mailing
	list(Digest mode)
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F357148@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>

 
> Hi! I am Debjit and Greeting to everyone from India.

Hi Debjit -- thanks for using the Devel list for communications for
Socnet.


 
> I was going through your project ideas for social networking (SocNet)
> for Geeklog in GSOC 2010. Having already worked on facebook apps for
<<snip>>
> buddypress which happens to be the social networking addon to
> wordpress CMS so I have a good idea about things. Can any interested
> mentor possibly guide me on going about the socnet project..

The wiki page on Socnet describes the project requirements.  Socnet is a
plugin that provides social networking APIs (such as social group
management etc) for use by other plugins.

Is there a specific question you have about the project that we can
answer for you?

-randy






From isharaaruna at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 13:31:47 2010
From: isharaaruna at gmail.com (Ishara Karunarathna)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 23:01:47 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Like to participate Gsoc praogram
Message-ID: <b9d4ccf61003241031w76f3bd48kcc4e6a4697507518@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I?m an undergraduate student from  university of Moratuwa, Srilanka. I?m
interested in participating for the GSOC program for Geeklog. Currently I?m
interested in the Idea "SoC Calender Plugin"

Please give me further details on this idea on where to begin and what are
the skills I need. So that I can start working on it.

Thank you.

Ishara
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 15:44:00 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:44:00 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Like to participate Gsoc praogram
In-Reply-To: <b9d4ccf61003241031w76f3bd48kcc4e6a4697507518@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b9d4ccf61003241031w76f3bd48kcc4e6a4697507518@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8319e2d61003241244i40307639wf9e5c5e607bb3c3a@mail.gmail.com>

Ishara,

The best place to start would be here:
http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_calendar_plugin. That "idea"
page outlines our general conception of what the calendar plugin would
entail.

As for basic skills, a knowledge of PHP and SQL (specifically MySQL or
PostgreSQL) are necessary as Geeklog is written in those languages.
Also helpful is understanding of distributed version control systems,
specifically Mercurial (hg) which we use. For a tutorial on HG, see
http://hginit.com.

Once those basics are covered, I'd suggest you dig into the Geeklog
code. For the Calendar plugin project, concentrate on understanding
the plugin API and how its used.

If you have any specific questions, please let me know.

-Vinny

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 1:31 PM, Ishara Karunarathna
<isharaaruna at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I?m an undergraduate student from? university of Moratuwa, Srilanka. I?m
> interested in participating for the GSOC program for Geeklog. Currently I?m
> interested in the Idea "SoC Calender Plugin"
>
> Please give me further details on this idea on where to begin and what are
> the skills I need. So that I can start working on it.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Ishara
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
>


From isharaaruna at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 16:15:13 2010
From: isharaaruna at gmail.com (Ishara Karunarathna)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 01:45:13 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog calendar pluging
Message-ID: <b9d4ccf61003241315l3a9ee721pc0c5131900c5015d@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Vincent,

Thank you very much for replying me.
I'm currently working on a web based project using PHP and MySQL as an
intern in a Sri lnakan company.
and I have a good knowledge of both PHP and SQL.


Now I'm going through the Geeklog and  calendar plugin idea.and if I have
any specific questions I will let you know.

Thank you,
Ishara
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From abhi.nitt at gmail.com  Wed Mar 24 16:49:06 2010
From: abhi.nitt at gmail.com (Abhishek Shrivastava)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 02:19:06 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Improvement of Installation GUI
Message-ID: <2b0bcc381003241349k6c376c40s578b107e7da9ba1d@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,

I am Abhishek, a student from India. I am interested in improving the
GUI of the Geeklog project. I am a contributor to the Pragyan CMS
project and the developer of Agate CMS. Both are employed at my
college related websites only and are not such advanced professional
CMS, but I do got a worthy experience of developing a CMS from
scratch. And so I realize the GUI and installation are some of the
most important components of a CMS.

I downloaded and installed the Geeklog CMS on my Linux running PC. To
be frank, I really think there is a much scope of improvement. For
example, that part where user has to move the public_html folder and
specify the new location manually could be either avoided(without
compromising security ofcourse) or automated.

The goal is to make the user as less manual work on the server as
possible. Ideally, the only think the user should do is to create a DB
and extract the CMS in his webserver folder and then run the install
script and enter the details.

Can someone please give me a brief idea about why exactly do I need to
separate public_html folder and other contents in separate directories
during installation ??

Regards,
Abhishek.


From akashmkj at gmail.com  Thu Mar 25 03:17:17 2010
From: akashmkj at gmail.com (Akash Mukherjee)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 12:47:17 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] SocNet
In-Reply-To: <50dc4f9f1003231940k4305eb4dt2069ac990e60aeb6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <50dc4f9f1003231940k4305eb4dt2069ac990e60aeb6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ef28c2f11003250017y7ab00eaaj110fc9c925481204@mail.gmail.com>

hello,

i would like to ask the same question "Can we not provide such a support by
the SocNet plugin only?"

also, should we have more of a twitter like interface for social experience?

Akash

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:10 AM, hitendra chauhan <hiten.r.chauhan at gmail.com
> wrote:

> *from the idea page-**The base Geeklog group structure needs to be altered
> to support the notion of group ownership as well as group type.**Geeklog's
> core code needs to be altered to support this functionality*
> **
> Is it really neccessory to alter the Geeklog group structure?
> Can we not provide such a support by the SocNet plugin only ?
>
> *
> *--
> Hitendra Chauhan
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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From him.albert.sal at gmail.com  Thu Mar 25 09:03:12 2010
From: him.albert.sal at gmail.com (Himanshu Bansal)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 18:33:12 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Introduction
Message-ID: <4d8ff0731003250603v687537cdm60bc91324645a696@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all

The following ideas interest me:

      SoC Dynamic Feeds
      SoC more spam-X modules

Right now, I am framing my proposal for these ideas, but my main focus now
is fixing bugs on the issue tracker

Himanshu Bansal
Sophomore
BITS Pilani Goa Campus
India
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From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Thu Mar 25 10:38:42 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 10:38:42 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] SocNet
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834B4@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>

This is a response for the general question of providing Socnet
capabilities solely through the Socnet plugin with no schema and code
changes to core:

 

If you follow the thread of discussion on this topic provided in the
GSoC wiki page for Socnet, you will see that the community decided to
leverage the existing codebase of Geeklog to provide group
functionality.  Not all of us are in agreement in whole on that
principle (namely me), as I personally believe this functionality should
reside solely in Socnet.  However this is open source development and we
need to be flexible to the desires, needs and expertise provided by the
community as a whole.  Therefore when I put the Socnet wiki page
together it was with that spirit in mind and thus Socnet's GSoC project
will include altering the core group table schema and some core code.

 

If a student wishes to proceed along a Socnet project path that does not
alter core, then a complete design as well as a valid reason why to not
proceed down that path  should be included in the student application.

 

I hope that helps!

 

-randy

 

 

 

From: Akash Mukherjee [mailto:akashmkj at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2010 3:17 AM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] SocNet

 

hello,

 

i would like to ask the same question "Can we not provide such a support
by the SocNet plugin only?"

 

also, should we have more of a twitter like interface for social
experience?

 

Akash

 

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 8:10 AM, hitendra chauhan
<hiten.r.chauhan at gmail.com> wrote:

from the idea page-The base Geeklog group structure needs to be altered
to support the notion of group ownership as well as group type.Geeklog's
core code needs to be altered to support this functionality

 

Is it really neccessory to alter the Geeklog group structure?

Can we not provide such a support by the SocNet plugin only ?


-- 
Hitendra Chauhan


_______________________________________________
geeklog-devel mailing list
geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel

 

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From dirk at haun-online.de  Thu Mar 25 15:21:19 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:21:19 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Improvement of Installation GUI
In-Reply-To: <2b0bcc381003241349k6c376c40s578b107e7da9ba1d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2b0bcc381003241349k6c376c40s578b107e7da9ba1d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100325192119.1227510647@smtp.haun-online.de>

Abhishek Shrivastava wrote:

>Can someone please give me a brief idea about why exactly do I need to
>separate public_html folder and other contents in separate directories
>during installation ??

Actually, you do not need to do that. The Geeklog tarball is layed out
like we recommend Geeklog to be installed on your server, with
public_html being your webroot directory (it's sometimes called that, or
"htdocs", or "wwwroot", or similar).

So in most setups, you wouldn't need to move things around at all. And
if you keep the same basic layout (even when your webroot is called,
say, "htdocs"), the installer will find things just fine.

I'm probably biased, but is that really such an unusual setup?


>To be frank, I really think there is a much scope of improvement.

The above issue alone wouldn't be enough for a GSoC project anyway. So
what else did you have in mind?

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From suprsidr at flashyourweb.com  Thu Mar 25 17:01:12 2010
From: suprsidr at flashyourweb.com (Wayne Patterson)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 16:01:12 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] CKEditor
Message-ID: <31838b391003251401k6f13fecfy27ebe6d9e7f433@mail.gmail.com>

Has someone started updating to http://ckeditor.com (thought I saw it
mentioned somewhere)
Or should I go ahead?

-Wayne
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Thu Mar 25 17:16:12 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 22:16:12 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] CKEditor
In-Reply-To: <31838b391003251401k6f13fecfy27ebe6d9e7f433@mail.gmail.com>
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Wayne Patterson wrote:

>Has someone started updating to http://ckeditor.com (thought I saw it
>mentioned somewhere)

Our friends from geeklog.jp did some experiments there, I think. Ivy
sent me some links regarding the integration of TinyBrowser (from
TinyMCE) into CKEditor (since the file browser in CKEditor is no longer free).

Actually, someone from geeklog.jp (mystral-kk, I think) managed to
replace FCKEditor with TinyMCE. Since I hate^Wdon't really like
FCKeditor ;-) I was wondering if that was a route we should be exploring ...

But thanks for pointing me to ckeditor.com - looks like I missed the
FCKeditor 2.6.6 release. That should go into the next Geeklog release.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From geeklog at mystral-kk.net  Thu Mar 25 20:53:17 2010
From: geeklog at mystral-kk.net (geeklog at mystral-kk.net)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:53:17 +0900 (JST)
Subject: [geeklog-devel] CKEditor
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Dirk Haun wrote:

> Our friends from geeklog.jp did some experiments there, I think. Ivy
> sent me some links regarding the integration of TinyBrowser (from
> TinyMCE) into CKEditor (since the file browser in CKEditor is no longer
> free).
>
> Actually, someone from geeklog.jp (mystral-kk, I think) managed to
> replace FCKEditor with TinyMCE. Since I hate^Wdon't really like
> FCKeditor ;-) I was wondering if that was a route we should be exploring
> ...

I tried implementing TinyMCE as a plugin.  Since it is just a plugin, it
hasn't been as well integrated as FCKeditor shipped with Geeklog, but I
think it works almost as well as FCKeditor and will work as well or better
with some changes of Geeklog code.  Anyone interested in the plugin can
download it from http://mystral-kk.net/filemgmt/visit.php?lid=35 .

Through implementing TinyMCE, I come to understand a JavaScript WYSIWYG
editor doesn't have to be part of core code.  So, I propose that we
integrate a JavaScript WYSIWYG editor with Geeklog as a plugin, whether it
is CKEdiotr, TinyMCE, or anything else.

I also propose Geeklog should be shipped with a JavaScript framework, such
as jQuery, prototype, mootools or YUI.  In my humble opinion, jQuery is
best for two reasons:

1. jQuery can avoid conflicting with other JavaScript libraries.
2. It has quite a small footprint.  Only 69kb when minified.

Of course, it is a totally different matter whether Geeklog will be
dependent on any JavaScript framework, though I believe JavaScript should
be used to provide progressive enhancement.
-- 
  mystral-kk
  geeklog at mystral-kk.net
  http://mystral-kk.net




From joe at ThrowingDice.com  Thu Mar 25 20:40:27 2010
From: joe at ThrowingDice.com (Joe Mucchiello)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:40:27 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Improvement of Installation GUI
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At 03:21 PM 3/25/2010, Dirk Haun wrote:
>So in most setups, you wouldn't need to move things around at all. And
>if you keep the same basic layout (even when your webroot is called,
>say, "htdocs"), the installer will find things just fine.
>
>I'm probably biased, but is that really such an unusual setup?

Unfortunately from what I've seen, yes. Most CMSes have a single root 
with index.php in it and all other files underneath. It is much 
easier to install for people who don't understand directories and 
Unix permissions. There are webhosts (though the numbers are going 
down) that don't allow you to put files outside of the webroot.


----
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From joe at ThrowingDice.com  Thu Mar 25 21:42:59 2010
From: joe at ThrowingDice.com (Joe Mucchiello)
Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2010 21:42:59 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] CKEditor
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At 08:53 PM 3/25/2010, geeklog at mystral-kk.net wrote:
>I also propose Geeklog should be shipped with a JavaScript framework, such
>as jQuery, prototype, mootools or YUI.  In my humble opinion, jQuery is
>best for two reasons:
>
>1. jQuery can avoid conflicting with other JavaScript libraries.
>2. It has quite a small footprint.  Only 69kb when minified.

As I've said on many occasions, I think mootools is a better fit for 
Geeklog. mootools' philosophy is to be a better javascript than 
javascript alone. It is not a gui framework although it does support 
many gui tools. Core mootools is 63K with YUI compression and it has 
a $-safe mode just like jQuery does. And the mootools plugins are far 
better organized than jQuery's. I think this is because mootools 
makes js more OOP and so the plugins are more object like to start 
with. The mootools core dev team is also slow to add core features, 
giving such additions great consideration - just like the core dev team here.

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From rasade88 at gmail.com  Thu Mar 25 22:36:00 2010
From: rasade88 at gmail.com (Ramindu Deshapriya)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 08:06:00 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
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Hi,
Is there a template for project proposals defined for Geeklog proposals? If
so, where can I find it? Just thought I'd get some clarification on this
before I put my foot in it and wrote a proposal that doesn't comply with the
template. :O

Thanks!

On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:

> Certainly if VirtueMart is interested in maintaining your port
> (presumably with your help) after you have finished it that would be an
> ideal solution. Otherwise I think a good implementation would generate
> enough interest in the Geeklog community to support the port going forward.
> I'm glad that your thinking ahead to what will happen after the Summer.
>
> It's important though, that your proposal makes it clear how you arrived at
> a decision to chose which application to port. Guidelines like ease of
> porting, community support (from Geeklog's and the application's
> communities), and application features should all be considered.
>
> Also, by the time you submit your final proposal, you should have a good
> idea at how the integration will work so that you can hit the ground running
> when the coding period begins. That probably means getting acquainted with
> Geeklog's plugin API over the next few weeks.
>
> -Vinny
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Thank You. I will take this into consideration when writing the proposal.
>> BTW, will this 'port' kind of project require building up a new community
>> or will it be possible to somehow extend the VirtueMart community maintain
>> GeekLog's VirtueMart plugin? I think I might to discuss this with
>> VirtueMart's development team...
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know much about VirtueMart. If you think its a good choice to be
>>> ported from Joomla to Geeklog, you can definitely write a proposal around
>>> that. I would suggest that your proposal include a comprehensive review as
>>> to why the application you've chosen is the best. A comparison to other
>>> available applications (to show how you made your choice) would show your
>>> thorough research.
>>>
>>> -Vinny
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I see.
>>>> Thanks for your ideas.
>>>> So I will have to include which specific application I'll be integrating
>>>> into Geeklog in the proposal, right?
>>>> I was thinking VirtueMart, as it has been built in a more detached
>>>> fashion so that it can be used in any PHP/MySQL environment.
>>>> What do you think?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> -Ramindu
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:52 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm on the same page as Randy. There are already some really good
>>>>> shopping cart/e-commerce (PHP) applications out there. Implementing one from
>>>>> scratch is a bit much to take on over a Summer.
>>>>>
>>>>> A good application for an e-commerce plugin would include research into
>>>>> the different available applications and chosen one based on features and
>>>>> ability (and ease) to integrate with Geeklog. I envision this project to be
>>>>> a "port" of an application, where only a subset of the code would have to be
>>>>> kept up to date by the maintainer and new releases from the chosen
>>>>> application could be integrated fairly easily.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Vinny
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Randy Kolenko <
>>>>> Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>  Keep in mind, cart extensions such as ubercart have  many, many,
>>>>>> many, many (did I say Many yet) users and thus people willing to support it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Your best bet may be to do some sort of integration of an existing and
>>>>>> well established cart so that you?re not blindsided with security issues
>>>>>> that are bound to arise from this.  Just my $0.02.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -randy
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Ramindu Deshapriya [mailto:rasade88 at gmail.com]
>>>>>> *Sent:* Monday, March 22, 2010 10:50 AM
>>>>>> *To:* Geeklog Development
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping
>>>>>> Cart plugin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks Vinny!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was thinking of looking at a few shopping cart extensions written
>>>>>> for other CMS's, e.g. Ubercart for Drupal and VirtueMart for Joomla, and
>>>>>> getting an idea of how they are integrated into the individual CMSs. Of
>>>>>> course, when building something similar for Geeklog, the security
>>>>>> considerations that are needed for any form of Geeklog development will have
>>>>>> to be paid extra attention to.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As per the discussion with Dirk on the IRC channel:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dirk was worried about how an extension such as a Shopping Cart Plugin
>>>>>> could be patched and updated along with new updates of Geeklog and to secure
>>>>>> the channels of communication opened by the plugin whenever a new security
>>>>>> threat develops. In my view, the only sure-fire way to ensure the
>>>>>> continuation of any opensource project needing a long-term commitment is to
>>>>>> get the help of the community. For this plugin, I plan to build up a
>>>>>> community of a predefined number of developers (I was thinking at least 3
>>>>>> lead developers), of which I will also be a member,  who will be on-call to
>>>>>> provide any patches/bug fixes/updates. That way we can ensure the
>>>>>> continuation of the project after GSoC. I will include this within the scope
>>>>>> of my project, and clearly define how I plan to build up this community
>>>>>> within the project proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any ideas regarding this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Ramindu,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm glad you've taken an interest in the e-commerce project. We have
>>>>>> not defined the requirements very clearly, but our thought was that an
>>>>>> existing (GPL) e-commerce or shopping cart program could be incorporated
>>>>>> into a Geeklog plugin. Of course you'd have to overlay Geeklog's security
>>>>>> model and implement the plugin API. That would allow products/services to
>>>>>> available based on user/group permissions and allow the entire thing to be
>>>>>> integrated into a Geeklog site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd suggest spending some time exploring Geeklog, with emphasis on how
>>>>>> the security/permissions model works.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for specific requirements, they haven't been well defined for any
>>>>>> of the ideas on the brain storming page. That places a bit more of a burden
>>>>>> (and added flexibility) on you to define the project's goals in your
>>>>>> application.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know if you have any further questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Vinny
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <
>>>>>> rasade88 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am an undergraduate of Information Technology at the University of
>>>>>> Moratuwa, Sri Lanka and I have 2 years' experience working with PHP. I have
>>>>>> worked on Content Management Systems such as Joomla as well, developing
>>>>>> extensions according to PEAR standards. I was interested in working on an
>>>>>> opensource CMS as a GSoC 2010 project, and Geeklog caught my eye. As I have
>>>>>> some knowledge developing e-commerce applications using PHP, I think I will
>>>>>> be able to develop a suitable plugin for Geeklog that will allow e-commerce
>>>>>> functions such as online funds transfer and online purchases possible. I am
>>>>>> currently studying the development tutorials for Geeklog and hope to
>>>>>> contribute to the bug tracker soon.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any feedback you could provide on the feasibility/usefulness of this
>>>>>> project and on any specific requirements that you would like to see included
>>>>>> within the plugin would be appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank You!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Yours Truly,
>>>>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Yours Truly,
>>>>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Yours Truly,
>>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yours Truly,
>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Fri Mar 26 02:19:30 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 02:19:30 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
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Ramindu,

You can find what we're looking for in your application/proposal on
the Geeklog GSOC homepage here:
http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_org/google/gsoc2010/geeklog/geeklog

If you have any questions, please let us know.

Thanks,
Vinny

On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 10:36 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> Is there a template for project proposals defined for Geeklog proposals? If
> so, where can I find it? Just thought I'd get some clarification on this
> before I put my foot in it and wrote a proposal that doesn't comply with the
> template. :O
> Thanks!
>
> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Certainly if VirtueMart is interested in maintaining your port
>> (presumably?with your help) after you have finished it that would be an
>> ideal solution. Otherwise I think a good implementation would generate
>> enough interest in the Geeklog community to support the port going forward.
>> I'm glad that your thinking ahead to what will happen after the Summer.
>> It's important though, that your proposal makes it clear how you arrived
>> at a decision to chose which application to port. Guidelines like ease of
>> porting, community support (from Geeklog's and the application's
>> communities), and application features should all be considered.
>> Also, by the time you submit your final proposal, you should have a good
>> idea at how the integration will work so that you can hit the ground running
>> when the coding period begins. That probably means getting?acquainted?with
>> Geeklog's plugin API over the next few weeks.
>> -Vinny
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank You. I will take this into consideration when writing the proposal.
>>> BTW, will this 'port' kind of project require building up a new community
>>> or will it be possible to somehow extend the VirtueMart community maintain
>>> GeekLog's VirtueMart plugin? I think I might to discuss this with
>>> VirtueMart's development team...
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 8:41 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't know much about?VirtueMart. If you think its a good choice to be
>>>> ported from Joomla to Geeklog, you can definitely write a proposal around
>>>> that. I would suggest that your proposal include a comprehensive review as
>>>> to why the application you've chosen is the best. A comparison to other
>>>> available applications (to show how you made your choice) would show your
>>>> thorough research.
>>>> -Vinny
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 6:24 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I see.
>>>>> Thanks for your ideas.
>>>>> So I will have to include which specific application I'll be
>>>>> integrating into Geeklog in the proposal, right?
>>>>> I was thinking VirtueMart, as it has been built in a more detached
>>>>> fashion so that it can be used in any PHP/MySQL environment.
>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> -Ramindu
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:52 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm on the same page as Randy. There are already some really good
>>>>>> shopping cart/e-commerce (PHP) applications out there. Implementing one from
>>>>>> scratch is a bit much to take on over a Summer.
>>>>>> A good application for an e-commerce plugin would include research
>>>>>> into the different available applications and?chosen?one based on features
>>>>>> and ability (and ease) to integrate with Geeklog. I envision this project to
>>>>>> be a "port" of an application, where only a subset of the code would have to
>>>>>> be kept up to date by the maintainer and new releases from the chosen
>>>>>> application could be integrated fairly easily.
>>>>>> -Vinny
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 9:07 AM, Randy Kolenko
>>>>>> <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keep in mind, cart extensions such as ubercart have? many, many,
>>>>>>> many, many (did I say Many yet) users and thus people willing to support it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Your best bet may be to do some sort of integration of an existing
>>>>>>> and well established cart so that you?re not blindsided with security issues
>>>>>>> that are bound to arise from this.? Just my $0.02.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -randy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Ramindu Deshapriya [mailto:rasade88 at gmail.com]
>>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 10:50 AM
>>>>>>> To: Geeklog Development
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping
>>>>>>> Cart plugin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks Vinny!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I was thinking of looking at a few shopping cart extensions written
>>>>>>> for other CMS's, e.g. Ubercart for Drupal and VirtueMart for Joomla, and
>>>>>>> getting an idea of how they are integrated into the individual CMSs. Of
>>>>>>> course, when building something similar for Geeklog, the security
>>>>>>> considerations that are needed for any form of Geeklog development will have
>>>>>>> to be paid extra attention to.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As per the discussion with Dirk on the IRC channel:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dirk was worried about how an extension such as a Shopping Cart
>>>>>>> Plugin could be patched and updated along with new updates of Geeklog and to
>>>>>>> secure the channels of communication opened by the plugin whenever a new
>>>>>>> security threat develops. In my view, the only sure-fire way to ensure the
>>>>>>> continuation of any opensource project needing a long-term commitment is to
>>>>>>> get the help of the community. For this plugin, I plan to build up a
>>>>>>> community of a predefined number of developers (I was thinking at least 3
>>>>>>> lead developers), of which I will also be a member,??who will be on-call to
>>>>>>> provide any patches/bug fixes/updates. That way we can ensure the
>>>>>>> continuation of the project after GSoC. I will include this within the scope
>>>>>>> of my project, and clearly define how I plan to build up this community
>>>>>>> within the project proposal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any ideas regarding this?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ?Ramindu,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm glad you've taken an interest in the e-commerce project. We have
>>>>>>> not defined the requirements very clearly, but our thought was that an
>>>>>>> existing (GPL) e-commerce or shopping cart program could be incorporated
>>>>>>> into a Geeklog plugin. Of course you'd have to overlay Geeklog's security
>>>>>>> model and implement the plugin API. That would allow products/services to
>>>>>>> available based on user/group permissions and allow the entire thing to be
>>>>>>> integrated into a Geeklog site.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd suggest spending some time exploring Geeklog, with emphasis on
>>>>>>> how the security/permissions model works.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for specific requirements, they haven't been well defined for any
>>>>>>> of the ideas on the brain storming page. That places a bit more of a burden
>>>>>>> (and added flexibility) on you to define the project's goals in your
>>>>>>> application.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me know if you have any further questions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Vinny
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya
>>>>>>> <rasade88 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am an undergraduate of Information Technology at the University of
>>>>>>> Moratuwa, Sri Lanka and I have 2 years' experience working with PHP. I have
>>>>>>> worked on Content Management Systems such as Joomla as well, developing
>>>>>>> extensions according to PEAR standards. I was interested in working on an
>>>>>>> opensource CMS as a GSoC 2010 project, and Geeklog caught my eye. As I have
>>>>>>> some knowledge developing e-commerce applications using PHP, I think I will
>>>>>>> be able to develop a suitable plugin for Geeklog that will allow e-commerce
>>>>>>> functions such as online funds transfer and online purchases possible. I am
>>>>>>> currently studying the development tutorials for Geeklog and hope to
>>>>>>> contribute to the bug tracker soon.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any feedback you could provide on the feasibility/usefulness of this
>>>>>>> project and on any specific requirements that you would like to see included
>>>>>>> within the plugin would be appreciated.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank You!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Yours Truly,
>>>>>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Yours Truly,
>>>>>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Yours Truly,
>>>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yours Truly,
>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Yours Truly,
> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
>


From dirk at haun-online.de  Fri Mar 26 02:52:13 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 07:52:13 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
In-Reply-To: <8319e2d61003252319r2b3f7b1an83583e7e033b26b6@mail.gmail.com>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834AF@nex-pluto.nextide.ca> 
	<8319e2d61003221422h590dde8ah63314692918f6eaf@mail.gmail.com> 
	<c86c05ef1003221724u44cc7359jc248a3a10ab8b8cb@mail.gmail.com> 
	<8319e2d61003222011k7510d077v687486037cedb8f7@mail.gmail.com> 
	<c86c05ef1003231021q564c320bl9763d24b097f10ae@mail.gmail.com> 
	<8319e2d61003231229j6c1aa8b8x5361bb8bb30cd431@mail.gmail.com> 
	<c86c05ef1003251936t5ed351aaw7eab9f80cc636939@mail.gmail.com>
	<8319e2d61003252319r2b3f7b1an83583e7e033b26b6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100326065213.1464626430@smtp.haun-online.de>

Vincent Furia wrote:

>You can find what we're looking for in your application/proposal on
>the Geeklog GSOC homepage here:
>http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_org/google/gsoc2010/
>geeklog/geeklog

Which is the same page that you end up on when going via the list of
accepted orgs:

  http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/home/google/gsoc2010/geeklog

But the URL is shorter :)

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Fri Mar 26 07:42:03 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 07:42:03 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] CKEditor
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834B5@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>


> As I've said on many occasions, I think mootools is a better fit for
> Geeklog. mootools' philosophy is to be a better javascript than
> javascript alone. It is not a gui framework although it does support
> many gui tools. Core mootools is 63K with YUI compression and it has
> a $-safe mode just like jQuery does. And the mootools plugins are far
> better organized than jQuery's. I think this is because mootools
> makes js more OOP and so the plugins are more object like to start
> with. The mootools core dev team is also slow to add core features,
> giving such additions great consideration - just like the core dev
team
> here.



If I may chime in here.  I do believe Mootools' license it MIT rather
than GPL.  jQuery is both MIT and GPL.  So not sure if there are any
issues with license mixing.  I just throw that out there.  

A variety of other frameworks ship with jQuery already; not to mention
ASP.net which helps developers coming from the Microsoft realm.  I would
throw my hat in for jQuery.

-randy



From suprsidr at flashyourweb.com  Fri Mar 26 10:11:53 2010
From: suprsidr at flashyourweb.com (Wayne Patterson)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 09:11:53 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] jQuery
Message-ID: <31838b391003260711j420cf11fyb7e3327a8a42d438@mail.gmail.com>

I thought jQuery was already decided on?
But I would like to suggest some compatibility methods:

Always use jQuery in noConflict:
if(jQueryNoConflict == undefined){
    jQuery.noConflict();
    var jQueryNoConflict = true;
}

And make sure other plugins can tell that you've already included jQuery in
the header so they don't overwrite your functions:
if(!defined('JQUERY')){
   $headerText .= '<script type="text/javascript" src="
http://ajax.googleapis.com/ajax/libs/jquery/1/jquery.min.js
"></script>'."\n";
   define('JQUERY', 'true');
}

maybe we could report our version there instead?

But geeklog core should simply include it first before any plugins and
define it then.

-Wayne
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From akash6190 at gmail.com  Fri Mar 26 10:30:04 2010
From: akash6190 at gmail.com (Akash Chauhan)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:00:04 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] [GSOC 2010] New Geeklog plugin
Message-ID: <23124b8f1003260730m7f7cb75bic657667bcf178901@mail.gmail.com>

HI my name is Akash Chauhan I am student of National Institute of Technology
(NIT), India also i have a good hands on experience on web designing as I am
also a member of my college webteam which manages my college website that is
www.nitt.edu, also I am Development team head of connectnit.org a students
initiative to connect all the NITs of India.

That was about me now coming to my idea it is like this i would like to add
a album/photo gallery plugin for geeklog. This plugin is flash based plugin
has a page flip effect for next and previous photos also it has a slideshow
effect we can even add videos to that it gives a look of book  ,this flash
plugin gets its data about all the images,text,video from an xml file. We
can generate the xml file using php you can take a view at my site
http://freinds.co.in/users/akash6190/album.swf just check it out it gives a
nice cool effect and it is in beta stage, I would like to add this coool
plugin to geeklog and would like to work upon this as my this summer proj. I
can dedicate a minm of 60hrs a week in my summer vacs .
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Fri Mar 26 12:12:09 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 12:12:09 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] CKEditor
In-Reply-To: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834B5@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834B5@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
Message-ID: <8319e2d61003260912x7bbadfa8n6f4dab8e98f7aa5@mail.gmail.com>

According to wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MIT_License

MIT License is GPL compatible.

-Vinny

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 7:42 AM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca> wrote:
>
>> As I've said on many occasions, I think mootools is a better fit for
>> Geeklog. mootools' philosophy is to be a better javascript than
>> javascript alone. It is not a gui framework although it does support
>> many gui tools. Core mootools is 63K with YUI compression and it has
>> a $-safe mode just like jQuery does. And the mootools plugins are far
>> better organized than jQuery's. I think this is because mootools
>> makes js more OOP and so the plugins are more object like to start
>> with. The mootools core dev team is also slow to add core features,
>> giving such additions great consideration - just like the core dev
> team
>> here.
>
>
>
> If I may chime in here. ?I do believe Mootools' license it MIT rather
> than GPL. ?jQuery is both MIT and GPL. ?So not sure if there are any
> issues with license mixing. ?I just throw that out there.
>
> A variety of other frameworks ship with jQuery already; not to mention
> ASP.net which helps developers coming from the Microsoft realm. ?I would
> throw my hat in for jQuery.
>
> -randy
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
>


From dirk at haun-online.de  Fri Mar 26 13:42:19 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 18:42:19 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] CKEditor
In-Reply-To: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834B5@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834B5@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
Message-ID: <20100326174219.2144401725@smtp.haun-online.de>

>> As I've said on many occasions, I think mootools is a better fit for
>> Geeklog.

Not sure where this quote came from. We did decide to use jQuery a while
ago (per our usual "somebody suggested something and there was no loud
protest" process). We just haven't gotten around to actually using it.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From dirk at haun-online.de  Fri Mar 26 15:09:30 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 20:09:30 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] [GSOC 2010] New Geeklog plugin
In-Reply-To: <23124b8f1003260730m7f7cb75bic657667bcf178901@mail.gmail.com>
References: <23124b8f1003260730m7f7cb75bic657667bcf178901@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100326190930.977617663@smtp.haun-online.de>

Akash Chauhan wrote:

>That was about me now coming to my idea it is like this i would like to add
>a album/photo gallery plugin for geeklog.

Thanks for your interest. However, we already do have at least two very
nice photo gallery plugins for Geeklog (Media Gallery and an integration
for the stand-alone Gallery 2 project). So at least as far as GSoC is
concerned, we're not really interested in another one.

That shouldn't stop you from creating another one if you think that's
what Geeklog needs. But it couldn't be a GSoC project, sorry.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From abhi.nitt at gmail.com  Fri Mar 26 17:06:16 2010
From: abhi.nitt at gmail.com (Abhishek Shrivastava)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 02:36:16 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Improvement of Installation GUI
In-Reply-To: <20100325192119.1227510647@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <2b0bcc381003241349k6c376c40s578b107e7da9ba1d@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100325192119.1227510647@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <2b0bcc381003261406s6ee6eaacg1a34e80d44570cc@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Dirk,

While installing other CMS like Joomla, I didnt have to do any
shifting/moving stuff like in Geeklog. It would be better if we can
make it more user-friendly. For now, I'd suggest we can skip that part
in which the user has to input the path of "db-config.php". In cases,
where GL is not able to detect that file, this step can give
non-experienced users a headache. So what we can do is to complete the
installation of GL without having to move the public_html folder and
remaining contents anywhere,so that that step can be avoided(bcoz GL
already knows where db-config is!). This is just a suggestion, I'd
like to get your feedback on this (any bad points about doing this?)

Anyways, this is obviously not enough for my GSOC work, it will take
hardly few days. I went through your ideas page list and I have
decided I can work with the "Improvement of Configuration GUI" idea.
Its actually a very good idea and GL will benefit a lot from it.
However, there are few things I want to discuss about each topic :

1) More Fine Grained Access Control
This is a nice idea but there's something that needs to be tackled
first. Suppose I'm a user with permission to create stories and I have
been given access to configurations related to Stories, and there's
another such user like me who changes the common "stories"
configuration to meet his own story needs. This change by the second
user will affect me also and vice-versa as they are indeed "common"
story settings. This is an embarassing situation!

This can be fixed by splitting the "Core" configuration into groups
like "Stories","Polls", etc. and then each group can have different
values for each "admin" user. This can be further optimized by
associating every story_id(uid) or poll_id(pid) etc with a config_id
(cid -> the id of a group of a particular configuration set). This
would require a complete overhaul(or may b a rewrite?) of
config.class.php with lots of added functionalities.

I'd talk about the other topics in this idea in next few mails, for
now I'd love your feedbacks please...

Regards,
Abhishek.


On 3/26/10, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
> Abhishek Shrivastava wrote:
>
>>Can someone please give me a brief idea about why exactly do I need to
>>separate public_html folder and other contents in separate directories
>>during installation ??
>
> Actually, you do not need to do that. The Geeklog tarball is layed out
> like we recommend Geeklog to be installed on your server, with
> public_html being your webroot directory (it's sometimes called that, or
> "htdocs", or "wwwroot", or similar).
>
> So in most setups, you wouldn't need to move things around at all. And
> if you keep the same basic layout (even when your webroot is called,
> say, "htdocs"), the installer will find things just fine.
>
> I'm probably biased, but is that really such an unusual setup?
>
>
>>To be frank, I really think there is a much scope of improvement.
>
> The above issue alone wouldn't be enough for a GSoC project anyway. So
> what else did you have in mind?
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.geeklog.net/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
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>


From dirk at haun-online.de  Fri Mar 26 17:59:19 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2010 22:59:19 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Improvement of Installation GUI
In-Reply-To: <2b0bcc381003261406s6ee6eaacg1a34e80d44570cc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2b0bcc381003241349k6c376c40s578b107e7da9ba1d@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100325192119.1227510647@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<2b0bcc381003261406s6ee6eaacg1a34e80d44570cc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100326215919.514772317@smtp.haun-online.de>

Abhishek Shrivastava wrote:

>While installing other CMS like Joomla, I didnt have to do any
>shifting/moving stuff like in Geeklog.

Funny, I don't have to do any shifting either when I install Geeklog ;-)
As I said, it depends on the webserver configuration.


>This is just a suggestion, I'd
>like to get your feedback on this (any bad points about doing this?)

It's a different philosophy. Systems like Joomla or WordPress put
everything inside the webroot and then try to protect stuff that
shouldn't be accessible. We say: Don't put it into the webroot in the
first place.


>1) More Fine Grained Access Control
>This is a nice idea but there's something that needs to be tackled
>first. Suppose I'm a user with permission to create stories and I have
>been given access to configurations related to Stories, and there's
>another such user like me who changes the common "stories"
>configuration to meet his own story needs. This change by the second
>user will affect me also and vice-versa as they are indeed "common"
>story settings. This is an embarassing situation!

Not at all. The Configuration is for site-wide settings. So it's not
meant to allow two users to set things to their personal preferences.

The idea of the project is to be able to give control of the
configuration to people (or groups of people) with separate roles. So if
we have a person who's responsible for the contents of the Calendar, we
should - optionally - be able to give them control of the Calendar
configuration options while preventing them from messing with the site's
email settings. That's not currently possible.


>This can be fixed by splitting the "Core" configuration into groups
>like "Stories","Polls", etc.

So far so good - that was the idea.

>and then each group can have different
>values for each "admin" user.

No, that's not what we had in mind. As I said, the Configuration is for
settings that affect the entire site - and every user. For everything
else, there are the per-user settings under "My Account".

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From abhi.nitt at gmail.com  Fri Mar 26 18:46:27 2010
From: abhi.nitt at gmail.com (Abhishek Shrivastava)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 04:16:27 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Improvement of Installation GUI
In-Reply-To: <20100326215919.514772317@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <2b0bcc381003241349k6c376c40s578b107e7da9ba1d@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100325192119.1227510647@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<2b0bcc381003261406s6ee6eaacg1a34e80d44570cc@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100326215919.514772317@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <2b0bcc381003261546o159f42aeweb4ddfd9c09ef93f@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

>It's a different philosophy. Systems like Joomla or WordPress put
>everything inside the webroot and then try to protect stuff that
>shouldn't be accessible. We say: Don't put it into the webroot in the
>first place.

Okay I'm finally getting a grasp of it. Its more secure to avoid putting it
in the webroot itself, but it requires users to be able to do that, which is
not possible in case of users who host their websites on bought domains.
Will just renaming the folder is enough secure in that case ?

>The idea of the project is to be able to give control of the
>configuration to people (or groups of people) with separate roles. So if
>we have a person who's responsible for the contents of the Calendar, we
>should - optionally - be able to give them control of the Calendar
>configuration options while preventing them from messing with the site's
>email settings. That's not currently possible.

Oh ok, so there can be only 1 user with a "specific" role... and multiple
users will have "unique" roles (if provided)...am I right ?
 It would still require editing of the config class and new fields would
have to be added to permissions database to account for configurations
access control.

Probably, It is possible to have a separate table something like
"config_perms", in which to every configuration there can be a uid of the
user who has access to it. So everytime a user wants to see some
configurations, only those fields to which he has access could be returned
from the DB. This would also allow very fine-grained control, on per-option
basis.

2) SEARCH for CONFIGS

Instead of implementing it as a usual search form, with results displayed
after submit, how about using "text suggestion" which will show suggestions
in real-time as user types in the input box? This can be done using AJAX
based approach and then using jQuery the appropriate fields are created and
the user can edit that configuration and then save again using AJAX. No page
reloads required!

3) New UI ElementBasically, we need checkboxes and radio buttons instead of
dropdowns wherever possible.. ?
Would need some revision of the configurations, but easy to implement once
they are identified.

I also have some more suggesstions in my mind coming for the project, will
let you know soon :)

Regards,
Abhishek.
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sat Mar 27 11:33:16 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 16:33:16 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] 1.6.2 -> 1.7.0
Message-ID: <20100327153316.1424576722@smtp.haun-online.de>

FYI: I have changed all references to "1.6.2" that I could find to
"1.7.0". So the next Geeklog release will be 1.7.0 :)

To make this happen, we should wrap up development (i.e. stop adding
features) and concentrate on fixing bugs and updating the documentation.

Are there any outstanding features currently being worked on?

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Sat Mar 27 13:26:24 2010
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:26:24 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] 1.6.2 -> 1.7.0
In-Reply-To: <20100327153316.1424576722@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <20100327153316.1424576722@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <009b01cacdd2$9ff043b0$dfd0cb10$@net>

I am not working on anything new. I will keep an eye on any bugs submitted
related to my work (or anyone else's for the matter). 

Did the page title table column for stories get into the upgrade script?

Tom


-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun
Sent: March-27-10 11:33 AM
To: geeklog-devel
Subject: [geeklog-devel] 1.6.2 -> 1.7.0

FYI: I have changed all references to "1.6.2" that I could find to
"1.7.0". So the next Geeklog release will be 1.7.0 :)

To make this happen, we should wrap up development (i.e. stop adding
features) and concentrate on fixing bugs and updating the documentation.

Are there any outstanding features currently being worked on?

bye, Dirk


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http://geeklog.info/

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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Sat Mar 27 13:27:34 2010
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 13:27:34 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] 1.6.2 -> 1.7.0
In-Reply-To: <009b01cacdd2$9ff043b0$dfd0cb10$@net>
References: <20100327153316.1424576722@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<009b01cacdd2$9ff043b0$dfd0cb10$@net>
Message-ID: <009c01cacdd2$c9ff2bd0$5dfd8370$@net>

RE: Did the page title table column for stories get into the upgrade script?

Never mind I just say the CVS updates.

-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: March-27-10 1:26 PM
To: 'Geeklog Development'
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] 1.6.2 -> 1.7.0

I am not working on anything new. I will keep an eye on any bugs submitted
related to my work (or anyone else's for the matter). 


Tom


-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Dirk Haun
Sent: March-27-10 11:33 AM
To: geeklog-devel
Subject: [geeklog-devel] 1.6.2 -> 1.7.0

FYI: I have changed all references to "1.6.2" that I could find to
"1.7.0". So the next Geeklog release will be 1.7.0 :)

To make this happen, we should wrap up development (i.e. stop adding
features) and concentrate on fixing bugs and updating the documentation.

Are there any outstanding features currently being worked on?

bye, Dirk


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sat Mar 27 13:43:42 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 2010 18:43:42 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] 1.6.2 -> 1.7.0
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Tom wrote:

>RE: Did the page title table column for stories get into the upgrade script?
>
>Never mind I just say the CVS updates.

I'm going to look into Vlad's second patch now (adding a page title for
static pages) and commit it if it's okay. After that, it'll be bugfixes only.


To the students working on feature requests as part of "send a patch
with your GSoC application": Keep them coming. They just won't make it
into the 1.7.0 release but will of course be accepted as part of your
GSoC application.

Thanks to everyone who already sent a patch :)

bye, Dirk


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From abhi.nitt at gmail.com  Sat Mar 27 20:46:03 2010
From: abhi.nitt at gmail.com (Abhishek Shrivastava)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 06:16:03 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC 2010 application for Improvement in
	Configurations GUI
Message-ID: <2b0bcc381003271746j3dfe6fa0taa18e95a0447780d@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,
I have sent the first draft of my GSOC proposal. Please take a review of it.
You can either read my proposal at
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcgmhqp5_8dzq66rdp or go down and read :


Abstract

Geeklog has a large number of configurations available which makes it tough
for a user to quickly find and edit one. Also only users in "root" group has
access to the site-wide configurations, a subset of which should be
otherwise available to the "local administrators group" depending on the
module they admin. I propose to fix these issues by adopting an AJAX based
approach for the configuration search and altering the config class to add
access-control on per-option basis. All the custom javascript codes would be
replaced by jQuery which would be adapted as the default javascript library
for Geeklog.

Proposal :

Hello everyone,

My name is Abhishek Shrivastava. I am a third year student at National
Institute of Technology at Trichy in India, studying Electronics and
Communications Engineering. I am highly interested in working with the
Geeklog project for the GSOC 2010. I have strong command over PHP, MySQL,
AJAX, C++ and JAVA languages as I have been using them for creating
applications and websites for more than 6 years. I am an active user of FOSS
Softwares and the member of LUG (Linux Users Group) of my college. I am also
the core member of the Central Webteam of my college, which is responsible
for the development of my college website as well as the entire Local Area
Network services. My college website is being hosted on a custom Content
Management System called "Pragyan CMS", built from scratch to suit to our
needs. I am also the developer of "Agate CMS", a small, structured and easy
tutorial CMS I developed from scratch to teach the basics of CMS to my
junior batch of webteam. Some other web applications I have made in PHP
include a Webmail Application, an AJAX-based RSS Feeds Aggregator and an
AJAX-based file browser. I have extensive experience in creating custom CMS
using PHP and MySQL and AJAX-based rich GUI.

The most recent php-based project I worked upon was the "Agate Content
Management System". This is a micro-content management system with all the
minimum basic features a CMS needs like user-management, user-registration,
articles-management, page-managements, page-templates etc. It also features
FCKEditor for editing page contents and page-specific templates. While
writing this CMS, my main focus was to minimize DB Hits to make it fast and
at the same time keep it well-structured so that it is easy to be understood
by my juniors. This and the Pragyan CMS have given me a practical insight to
the working of a CMS core.

You can contact me at abhi.nitt at gmail.com. I also blog at
abhishekdelta.wordpress.com. My blog is mostly technical and about my Linux
ventures.

I am interested in Geeklog because of its well-structured code and really
helpful documentation. Understanding the source code of Geeklog was much
easier than other CMS. I feel the fine permission structure of Geeklog and
its numerous configurations makes it a very flexible and "tweakable" CMS, in
which every minor-configuration are editable, which are otherwise, in most
CMS cases, are hidden deep into the source-code of the configuration files.
Geeklog thus has a lot of potential and I really want to be a part of it and
contribute as much as I can.

I want to work on the idea of "Improving the Configuration GUI" (
http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_improve_configuration_gui). This idea
interests me because I strongly believe that "configurations" is one of the
major strengths of Geeklog, which makes it different from other CMS, giving
the user more power over the CMS. However, in the current state, the user
has to dig into hundreds of configurations to search for the one he needs.
This can be fixed by using a "search box" for the configurations, which can
suggest the user some configurations fields based on what the user types, on
real-time basis. I propose to implement this using AJAX to create an
interactive environment for the user. Also, sometimes, the user needs a
group of configurations to edit rather than individual configurations. This
can also be taken care of by grouping the configurations into certain number
of groups and then using a similar AJAX-based "search box" for configuration
groups.

Another feature which should be added to the "Configurations GUI" is to
provide controlled-access to local administrators, which include story
admins, topic admins, etc. Right now, only users belonging to the "Root"
group has access to the site-wide configurations which also include
individual modules configurations like SpamX, Stories, Links, Polls, etc.
Ideally, users belonging to Polls-admin and Stories-admin should have access
to configurations related to polls and stories respectively. This would
require adding new fields to the conf_values table to accomodate
local-admin-permissions values. A complete review and re-grouping of the
configurations is required to suit the needs of users. One easy way to map
between individual options, configuration groups, and user permissions, is
to create another table which would map configuration groups to
user-permissions, while the mapping between individual options and
configuration groups can be done at the existing conf_values table itself.

Further improvement of the GUI needs to be done by using jQuery and AJAX
instead of the existing javascript codes which handles dynamic configuration
entries addition and deletion. Using jQuery has its own advantages like
being a lightweight framework than anyother javascript framework, it will
speed up operations. jQuery also provides a wide range of plugins for
specific needs, which can be used for Geeklog in future versions to make it
more interactive. This would be the first step in the complete replacement
of the javascript codes in Geeklog by jQuery. jQuery also features useful
plugins like "Advanced Form Validator" which could be used to validate the
user input to the configurations strictly. jQuery has a very well documented
API for all its plugins, and hence it would be very comfortable to use and
adopt jQuery as the default framework for Geeklog.

Overall, this project will completely overhaul the way Configuration works
and looks to the user. The end-product of this project will be a totally new
version of configurations page with rich GUI based on jQuery, AJAX-based
search tools for configurations and per-option-based access control lists
for users.

I have also made myself familiar with the "Geeklog Way of doing things" and
found a bug in the SpamX module (
http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1102) and also created a new
patch for the feature request of "Spam Filter Use Counter" (
http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1076). This patch involves
adding an additional "counter" field to the spamx table, which is then
incremented as and when the filter detects a particular kind of spam, which
includes IP Blacklists, HTTP Headers, IP of URL Blacklists, Personal
Blacklists and SLV Whitelists. The bug I found while writing this patch was
actually a "typo" error, but had serious implications in the sense it
completely blocked the user from adding new "IP of URL" filter rules to the
SpamX module.


Please note that the above methods I explained are what I have in my mind
right now. Some of them may not be the best way to achieve the task, but I
would discuss in more detail with the mentor (if I get selected) and have a
brainstorming to work out efficient methods.

I would work out and include the deliverables schedule in my next draft of
the application.
Thank you for reading this, I really hope to work with you guys in the
future :)

Feedbacks would be very much appreciated.

With Best Regards,
Abhishek Shrivastava
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sun Mar 28 11:04:41 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 16:04:41 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC 2010 application for Improvement in
 Configurations GUI
In-Reply-To: <2b0bcc381003271746j3dfe6fa0taa18e95a0447780d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2b0bcc381003271746j3dfe6fa0taa18e95a0447780d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100328150441.1359891206@smtp.haun-online.de>

Abhishek Shrivastava wrote:

>I have sent the first draft of my GSOC proposal. Please take a review of it.

Looks good to me, thanks.

The one thing I'm missing, though, is a schedule. I.e. the order in
which you plan to implement these things and how long you think they
will take you.

To quote from our application template[1]:

--- snip ---
Then, please provide a (rough) schedule for your project: The order in
which you plan to implement features and an estimate how long it will
take and when they will be finished. Don't forget to factor some time
for tests and documentation into your plans. 
--- snip ---

bye, Dirk

[1] <http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/
Google_Summer_of_Code#Application_Template>


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From joe at ThrowingDice.com  Sun Mar 28 11:26:43 2010
From: joe at ThrowingDice.com (Joe Mucchiello)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 11:26:43 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC 2010 application for Improvement in
 Configurations GUI
In-Reply-To: <2b0bcc381003271746j3dfe6fa0taa18e95a0447780d@mail.gmail.co m>
References: <2b0bcc381003271746j3dfe6fa0taa18e95a0447780d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <0L0000JT40BB0M10@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

At 08:46 PM 3/27/2010, Abhishek Shrivastava wrote:
>Overall, this project will completely overhaul the way Configuration 
>works and looks to the user. The end-product of this project will be 
>a totally new version of configurations page with rich GUI based on 
>jQuery, AJAX-based search tools for configurations and 
>per-option-based access control lists for users.

I'm hoping I'm reading this incorrectly. But search-based 
configuration sounds like a bad idea to me. I like the idea of 
grouping things better. But I still want to be able to slog through 
page after page of configuration so I can see all the possible 
configuration options at a glance. Making the configurations respond 
to "search" would require adding a lot of alias words to the various 
configuration options.

I like the idea of having a separate control table for config info. 
the conf_values table should just have the data. A separate table 
should be used to control the configuration layout. As for 
permissions, I would suggest looking at SEC_hasRights. You should 
have two fields in the database: the first is a comma separated list 
of features. The second is either "AND" or "OR". You then pass these 
two fields directly to SEC_hasRights to see if the user can modify 
that configuration option.


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From vfuria at gmail.com  Sun Mar 28 12:00:01 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:00:01 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC 2010 application for Improvement in
	Configurations GUI
In-Reply-To: <0L0000JT40BB0M10@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
References: <2b0bcc381003271746j3dfe6fa0taa18e95a0447780d@mail.gmail.com> 
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On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Joe Mucchiello <joe at throwingdice.com>wrote:

> At 08:46 PM 3/27/2010, Abhishek Shrivastava wrote:
>
>> Overall, this project will completely overhaul the way Configuration works
>> and looks to the user. The end-product of this project will be a totally new
>> version of configurations page with rich GUI based on jQuery, AJAX-based
>> search tools for configurations and per-option-based access control lists
>> for users.
>>
>
> I'm hoping I'm reading this incorrectly. But search-based configuration
> sounds like a bad idea to me. I like the idea of grouping things better. But
> I still want to be able to slog through page after page of configuration so
> I can see all the possible configuration options at a glance. Making the
> configurations respond to "search" would require adding a lot of alias words
> to the various configuration options.
>

I think the idea with the "search" configuration is to supplement, not
replace, the existing categorized configuration pages. That way you can slog
through all the pages when initially configuring (or reconfiguring) your
site. But when you just want to change one item you can just search for it
rather than trying to figure out on which page the item is found.

-Vinny
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From joe at ThrowingDice.com  Sun Mar 28 12:05:47 2010
From: joe at ThrowingDice.com (Joe Mucchiello)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:05:47 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC 2010 application for Improvement in
 Configurations GUI
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>On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 11:26 AM, Joe Mucchiello 
><<mailto:joe at throwingdice.com>joe at throwingdice.com> wrote:
>At 08:46 PM 3/27/2010, Abhishek Shrivastava wrote:
>Overall, this project will completely overhaul the way Configuration 
>works and looks to the user. The end-product of this project will be 
>a totally new version of configurations page with rich GUI based on 
>jQuery, AJAX-based search tools for configurations and 
>per-option-based access control lists for users.
>
>
>I'm hoping I'm reading this incorrectly. But search-based 
>configuration sounds like a bad idea to me. I like the idea of 
>grouping things better. But I still want to be able to slog through 
>page after page of configuration so I can see all the possible 
>configuration options at a glance. Making the configurations respond 
>to "search" would require adding a lot of alias words to the various 
>configuration options.
>
>
>I think the idea with the "search" configuration is to supplement, 
>not replace, the existing categorized configuration pages. That way 
>you can slog through all the pages when initially configuring (or 
>reconfiguring) your site. But when you just want to change one item 
>you can just search for it rather than trying to figure out on which 
>page the item is found.

I hope that's what he means, too, Vinny. I just wanted to be explicit 
about it. If he does get all AJAXy about it I can imagine a huge tree 
of configuration options. As long as you can still expand all on the 
tree, that's good enough.


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From abhi.nitt at gmail.com  Sun Mar 28 12:18:07 2010
From: abhi.nitt at gmail.com (Abhishek Shrivastava)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:48:07 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC 2010 application for Improvement in
	Configurations GUI
In-Reply-To: <0L0000JT40BB0M10@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
References: <2b0bcc381003271746j3dfe6fa0taa18e95a0447780d@mail.gmail.com> 
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Message-ID: <2b0bcc381003280918x6afe52cdt922415b23a2fc713@mail.gmail.com>

Dear Joe,

To quote you :
> But search-based configuration sounds like a bad idea to me. I like the
idea of grouping things better. But I still want to be able
> to slog through page after page of configuration so I can see all the
possible configuration options at a glance. Making the
> configurations respond to "search" would require adding a lot of alias
words to the various configuration options.

Search based configuration are not the only way to do it. Ofcourse, the
usual list of configuration pages, with lots of configurations will still be
there. The search box will just be a part of it, which the user can use (if
required), to find a particular option. If not, he can always dig through
the configuration pages :)

> I like the idea of having a separate control table for config info. the
conf_values table should just have the data. A separate table
> should be used to control the configuration layout. As for permissions, I
would suggest looking at SEC_hasRights. You should
> have two fields in the database: the first is a comma separated list of
features. The second is either "AND" or "OR". You then
> pass these two fields directly to SEC_hasRights to see if the user can
modify that configuration option.

Thanks. Its what I have in my mind too. As of now, we have feature lists
like story.edit, polls.edit, etc.. I will implement individual
configurations as features like config.site_name, config.site_url, etc..
This would allow fine-grained  access control to individual configuration.

I hope I replied to all your queries. Thanks for reviewing.

With Best Regards,
Abhishek Shrivastava.
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From abhi.nitt at gmail.com  Sun Mar 28 12:19:56 2010
From: abhi.nitt at gmail.com (Abhishek Shrivastava)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 21:49:56 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC 2010 application for Improvement in
	Configurations GUI
In-Reply-To: <20100328150441.1359891206@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <2b0bcc381003271746j3dfe6fa0taa18e95a0447780d@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100328150441.1359891206@smtp.haun-online.de>
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Dear Dirk,

> The one thing I'm missing, though, is a schedule. I.e. the order in
> which you plan to implement these things and how long you think they
> will take you.

Yes, I am working on it. Will mail it soon.

With best regards,
Abhishek Shrivastava
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From joe at ThrowingDice.com  Sun Mar 28 12:30:01 2010
From: joe at ThrowingDice.com (Joe Mucchiello)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 12:30:01 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC 2010 application for Improvement in
 Configurations GUI
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References: <2b0bcc381003271746j3dfe6fa0taa18e95a0447780d@mail.gmail.com>
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At 12:18 PM 3/28/2010, Abhishek Shrivastava wrote:
>I will implement individual
>configurations as features like config.site_name, config.site_url, etc..
>This would allow fine-grained  access control to individual configuration.

I would hate to see the feature table expand by several hundred 
entries that most people would not use. The should be grouped. Anyone 
who can change the site_url should have equal access to every other 
path related configuration. There's no reason to separate it. 
Likewise, anyone who could change the site_name, should have equal 
access to many other settings. The existing features (like 
polls.admin) are sufficient for adding permissions to the 
configuration system. In the end if you need to add more than a 
handful of features to the system, you've gotten too fine grained.


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From abhi.nitt at gmail.com  Sun Mar 28 12:59:24 2010
From: abhi.nitt at gmail.com (Abhishek Shrivastava)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 22:29:24 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC 2010 application for Improvement in
	Configurations GUI
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> I would hate to see the feature table expand by several hundred entries
that most people would not use. The should be grouped.
> Anyone who can change the site_url should have equal access to every other
path related configuration. There's no reason to
> separate it. Likewise, anyone who could change the site_name, should have
equal access to many other settings. The existing
>features (like polls.admin) are sufficient for adding permissions to the
configuration system. In the end if you need to add more than
>a handful of features to the system, you've gotten too fine grained.

I understand your concern. Thats why I suggested there should be a different
table for configuration permissions. All the configurations will be grouped
into certain groups and those groups will also have permissions as a whole.
For mapping configuration to groups, this can be done in the existing
conf_values table itself without having to add any new rows. Only a new
column is required to be added in the conf_values to take care of which
configuration belongs to which groups.
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From joe at ThrowingDice.com  Sun Mar 28 13:37:36 2010
From: joe at ThrowingDice.com (Joe Mucchiello)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 13:37:36 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC 2010 application for Improvement in
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At 12:59 PM 3/28/2010, Abhishek Shrivastava wrote:
>I understand your concern. Thats why I suggested there should be a different
>table for configuration permissions. All the configurations will be grouped
>into certain groups and those groups will also have permissions as a whole.
>For mapping configuration to groups, this can be done in the existing
>conf_values table itself without having to add any new rows. Only a new
>column is required to be added in the conf_values to take care of which
>configuration belongs to which groups

But there is already a features system attached to user groups. 
Adding a separate configuration feature system doesn't make sense. 
The config system really, really does not need to be that fine 
grained in terms of permissions. No one outside of root is really 
going to rename the site so why add the capability?


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From abhi.nitt at gmail.com  Sun Mar 28 13:56:17 2010
From: abhi.nitt at gmail.com (Abhishek Shrivastava)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 23:26:17 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC 2010 application for Improvement in
	Configurations GUI
In-Reply-To: <0L00000MD6E0FK10@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
References: <2b0bcc381003271746j3dfe6fa0taa18e95a0447780d@mail.gmail.com> 
	<0L0000JT40BB0M10@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
	<2b0bcc381003280918x6afe52cdt922415b23a2fc713@mail.gmail.com> 
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Dear Joe,

To quote you:
> But there is already a features system attached to user groups. Adding a
separate configuration feature system doesn't make
> sense. The config system really, really does not need to be that fine
grained in terms of permissions. No one outside of root is
> really going to rename the site so why add the capability?

I agree with you, no one other than Root is going to rename the site. That
one I only gave as an example. There are certainly some configurations which
should be only available to root. Others can be grouped and then those group
names can be added to the features table with group id.

For example, we can group all the configurations related to stories into a
group name called story.config . This will be treated as a new feature and
added to the "features" table, with an associated "feature_id". Next we pick
a group (say, Story Admins with group ID 3) or create our own new group in
the "groups" table and add the pair <feature_id, group_id> to the "access"
table. This would allow us to give permissions to story admin to access all
the configurations which belong to story.config group.

Now how do we identify which configuration belongs to story.config group?
This can be done by adding a new field in the existing "conf_values" table
which will take care of that.

Please correct me If I am doing something wrong.

With Regards,
Abhishek Shrivastava.
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From abhi.nitt at gmail.com  Sun Mar 28 15:54:18 2010
From: abhi.nitt at gmail.com (Abhishek Shrivastava)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 01:24:18 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Updated proposal for GSOC
Message-ID: <2b0bcc381003281254y38bdc689p1e3f57dffaf7576e@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone,

I have updated my proposal for GSOC regarding the "Improvements in
Configurations GUI". Please take a look here :
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcgmhqp5_8dzq66rdp

I have included more information about my project and also my schedule.

Any feedbacks would be appreciated.

Thank you,
With Best Regards,
Abhishek Shrivastava
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sun Mar 28 17:03:50 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2010 22:03:50 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Updated proposal for GSOC
In-Reply-To: <2b0bcc381003281254y38bdc689p1e3f57dffaf7576e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2b0bcc381003281254y38bdc689p1e3f57dffaf7576e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100328210350.1615783035@smtp.haun-online.de>

Abhishek Shrivastava wrote:

>I have included more information about my project and also my schedule.

As a general comment, for the benefit of others, and so that I don't
have to repeat myself: ;-)

Please keep in mind that May 24 marks the beginning of the Coding
Period. By that time, most of your planning should already have happened
and you should be ready to sit down and start coding (hence the name).

There's a 4 week long Community Bonding period before that, which should
be enough time to finish the planning.

I'd also welcome it if people would go out on a limb and make a few
decisions right now and include them in their proposal. Don't worry,
we'll tell you when you're heading in the wrong direction.

Will send some additional notes in a separate email later.

bye, Dirk


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From abhi.nitt at gmail.com  Sun Mar 28 17:59:00 2010
From: abhi.nitt at gmail.com (Abhishek Shrivastava)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 03:29:00 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Updated proposal for GSOC
In-Reply-To: <20100328210350.1615783035@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <2b0bcc381003281254y38bdc689p1e3f57dffaf7576e@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100328210350.1615783035@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <2b0bcc381003281459v47777d19ye014298bf51c6f1d@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks,

I actualy forgot that I can make use of community bonding period for
planning as well. Good news is due to this I am able to squeeze 2 weeks for
the Access Control Manager GUI as well :)

Proposal Schedule updated here :
http://docs.google.com/View?id=dcgmhqp5_8dzq66rdp

Regards,
Abhishek Shrivastava.
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From jamil_fawad at hotmail.com  Mon Mar 29 15:11:47 2010
From: jamil_fawad at hotmail.com (jamil haider)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 00:11:47 +0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Dynamic Feeds with access control for Soc
In-Reply-To: <mailman.3651.1269088135.51268.geeklog-devel@lists.geeklog.net>
References: <mailman.3651.1269088135.51268.geeklog-devel@lists.geeklog.net>
Message-ID: <BAY127-W2E77A78E18681D1E63C5686200@phx.gbl>


Hi,

 I after some time toiling with the source code I think that Apparently there are two parts of the project: first is the dynamic feeds and the second one is the access control. Access control doesn't seem to be a big deal (May be it is beause I dont have much knowledge of the securtiy architecture of the GL:). As for the dynamism of feeds I was thinking on the lines as event handling is done in Java where we register our method to some action listener and whenever some event is generated we get to know. This is similar to the polling vs interrupt scenario. Currently geeklog has polling and we can replace it with some interrupt based system. We can have our main interface with 
some general methods. We can then implement them in our adapter classes. Whenever a user want to get some feed, some method will be called that register the relevant strings/url with some event listener. This architecture will hopefully reduce the server load as there would be less queries to our database and we wont be need to call the COM_rdfUpToDateCheck after regular intervals. As for the access control, it would be really great if you could provide me some pointers. Please reply soon as it seems that I am a behind the schedule.

Regards 
Jamil Haider

> Today's Topics:
> 
>    1. Dynamic Feeds for Soc (jamil haider)
>    2. Re: Dynamic Feeds for Soc (Dirk Haun)
>    3. Re: Hello and introduction (Dirk Haun)
>    4. SocNet (hitendra chauhan)
>    5. Introduction - (Google SoC more Spam-X modules) (Sumesh KS)
>    6. Re: GSOC - Socnet (Jakh Daven)
> 
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:03:42 +0500
> From: jamil haider <jamil_fawad at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [geeklog-devel] Dynamic Feeds for Soc
> To: <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
> Message-ID: <BAY127-W3198935485C707B2D8F85862A0 at phx.gbl>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I am Jamil Haider doing computer engineering from Pakistan. I was interested in adding support for dynamic feeds with access control. On the ides page it was written that there will be need for simplification of Plugin API for feeds. Any pointers pertaining to that required simplification are welcome. I am also bit confused about the scope of the project because it seems that to implement this feature I will have to poke into many different areas. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Regards
> Jamil Haider
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> Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:30:04 +0100
> From: "Dirk Haun" <dirk at haun-online.de>
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Dynamic Feeds for Soc
> To: geeklog-devel <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
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> jamil haider wrote:
> 
> 
> >I am Jamil Haider doing computer engineering from Pakistan. I was
> >interested in adding support for dynamic feeds with access control. On
> >the ides page it was written that there will be need for simplification
> >of Plugin API for feeds. Any pointers pertaining to that required
> >simplification are welcome.
> 
> Well, currently plugins have to duplicate a lot of code when they
> provide a feed. The question here was whether this code duplication
> could be avoided.
> 
> Maybe I'll better start with the second part of your question:
> 
> >I am also bit confused about the scope of
> >the project because it seems that to implement this feature I will have
> >to poke into many different areas.
> 
> Generally speaking, the code that actually creates the feed in the
> various formats is in system/classes/syndication. Above that is system/
> lib-syndication.php, which is either called through the Plugin API or in
> some cases directly (for article feeds).
> 
> I'd suggest you have a look at what happens when you save a new story -
> follow the calls through COM_rdfUpToDateCheck down to writing the feed
> file. Then do the same for a plugin that supports feeds, e.g. the
> Calendar plugin.
> 
> When you follow both paths, you'll see the duplicated code I mentioned
> above. If you see a chance to reduce or eliminate that code duplication,
> that would be welcome. But that's only the bonus part of this project.
> 
> Yes, this project would potentially touch on many different areas of the
> code. Currently, when a new item is saved or an item is updated,
> COM_rdfUpToDateCheck is called and all feeds the that are affected are
> updated.
> 
> Dynamic feeds will have to work the other way around: A request for a
> feed comes in and the items in it need to be collected and delivered.
> 
> For some sort of feeds, there may be a middle ground: The stories for a
> feed (or rather, their story id), for example, could be cached in the
> database. But this won't work for a feed for searches.
> 
> Part of the research for this project should be to figure out how far we
> could go (technically and realistically, given the constraints of the
> Summer). In some systems, you can turn pretty much every URL into an RSS
> feed by attaching some parameter to it. Something like that is pretty
> cool but probably not realistic for Geeklog. But some of the more
> dynamic examples listed on the ideas page (feed for moderation, feeds
> for search) seem to be within reach and would be very useful.
> 
> Hope that helps :)
> 
> bye, Dirk
 		 	   		  
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From ankitsultania2007 at gmail.com  Mon Mar 29 15:54:53 2010
From: ankitsultania2007 at gmail.com (Ankit Sultania)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 14:54:53 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] SoC dynamic feeds
Message-ID: <8aa2156e1003291254r78b12f27i29cba8cf8c6fe7e9@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

This post is regarding the SoC dynamic feeds project. The project idea is
awesome and I really want to work on it. The best part of the project is the
correlation of dynamic feeds with the authentication process. I have a good
idea of HTTP authentication and encryption techniques. I went through the
links provided and have a basic idea of what is to be done. Though i dont
have good knowledge of APIs, I am trying to make me comfortable with it.
Can u provide me with any other information which I am supposed to know.
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Mon Mar 29 15:58:48 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:58:48 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Dynamic Feeds with access control for Soc
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W2E77A78E18681D1E63C5686200@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.3651.1269088135.51268.geeklog-devel@lists.geeklog.net>
	<BAY127-W2E77A78E18681D1E63C5686200@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20100329195848.1241134526@smtp.haun-online.de>

jamil haider wrote:

>Access control doesn't seem to be a
>big deal (May be it is beause I dont have much knowledge of the securtiy
>architecture of the GL:).

My main gripe with the access control is that you need a way to identify
the current user. And since we're "The secure CMS", we want something
that isn't too easy to cirumvent but still easy to use.


>Whenever a user want to get some feed, some method will be called that
>register the relevant strings/url with some event listener. This
>architecture will hopefully reduce the server load as there would be
>less queries to our database and we wont be need to call the
>COM_rdfUpToDateCheck after regular intervals.

That sounds like a good approach. You may want to look into one or two
of the use cases listed on the ideas page to see what that would mean
regarding code changes - and possible stumbling blocks with Geeklog's
architectures.


>Please
>reply soon as it seems that I am a behind the schedule.

No worries, there are no bonus points for being first in line. We're
interested in good proposals, not early ones :)

bye, Dirk


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Mon Mar 29 17:07:41 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:07:41 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Dynamic Feeds with access control for Soc
In-Reply-To: <BAY127-W2E77A78E18681D1E63C5686200@phx.gbl>
References: <mailman.3651.1269088135.51268.geeklog-devel@lists.geeklog.net>
	<BAY127-W2E77A78E18681D1E63C5686200@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <20100329210741.1113109935@smtp.haun-online.de>

jamil haider wrote:

>As for the access control,
>it would be really great if you could provide me some pointers.

Forgot to mention: We have a somewhat related issue already with the
webservices (Atom Publishing Protocol). There, too, we try to
authenticate the user with standard HTTP authentication methods and ran
into some problems.

See <http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Webservices_API#Authentication>
and system/lib-webservices.php, function WS_authenticate()

bye, Dirk


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Mon Mar 29 17:39:32 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 22:39:32 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] SoC dynamic feeds
In-Reply-To: <8aa2156e1003291254r78b12f27i29cba8cf8c6fe7e9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8aa2156e1003291254r78b12f27i29cba8cf8c6fe7e9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100329213932.893490030@smtp.haun-online.de>

Ankit Sultania wrote:

>This post is regarding the SoC dynamic feeds project. The project idea is
>awesome and I really want to work on it. The best part of the project is the
>correlation of dynamic feeds with the authentication process. I have a good
>idea of HTTP authentication and encryption techniques.

Sounds good :)


>Can u provide me with any other information which I am supposed to know.

See my replies to Jamil on earlier on this list. Other than that, I'd
suggest you dive right in. See if you can find your way around the
current feed-related code. Then go on to write a proposal.

bye, Dirk


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From wilfer.sis at gmail.com  Mon Mar 29 20:13:56 2010
From: wilfer.sis at gmail.com (William Garcia)
Date: Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:13:56 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Proposal idea
In-Reply-To: <991e66d91003232323l16452ebekaac1f6a701b76dff@mail.gmail.com>
References: <991e66d91003220421n70742f2by2ff290ece4993d1f@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100322190158.1901950332@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<991e66d91003221503r42d80849t3cf2299a711315dd@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100323194819.255135035@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<991e66d91003232323l16452ebekaac1f6a701b76dff@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <991e66d91003291713k69f34991w7f7698c5d762275b@mail.gmail.com>

Greeting,

I already have a first draft of my proposal in
https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AXpOuYbg8051ZGNyM3NyaGZfNzdnZGI5emdi&hl=en

for the generator was tested with a thought pluguin for Poll or contact, or
that another pluguin propose for testing during the project. This would be
for the XMI design which I need to clarify.

cheers,

2010/3/24 William Garcia <wilfer.sis at gmail.com>

> hi,
>
> I drafted the solid and  clear proposal, I hope to finish it this weekend.
> Answering your question, when we create a pluguin using the generator, we
> have to design it within a XMI, This XMI contains the data model, rules,
> behaviors and other features including in the generator.
> This file would be as the source of your plugin, so if we update the
> generator is only load the XMI and generate the new version of the plugin. I
> make that clear in my proposal.
>
> bye,
>
> 2010/3/23 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>
>
> William Garcia wrote:
>>
>> >The idea is to build the generator  and test generating  a pluguin as
>>  poll
>> >or any other.
>> >
>> >I have used MDA to develop complex software on php and the advantage is
>> you
>> >can reuse the Meta-saving  development time.
>>
>> That sounds like an interesting approach. I'm looking forward to reading
>> that proposal :) Feel free to include links on the theory behind all
>> that, but if you could try to explain things in layman's terms also,
>> that would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>> My main gripe with generators of any kind (including my own feeble
>> attempts) is that they are all one-time shots. I.e. you run the
>> generator and get a stub that you can then expand on. And then later,
>> there is an API change or something and you can't update what you've
>> already written but need to start over from scratch.
>>
>> Does MDA offer any help here or does it suffer from the same problem?
>>
>> bye, Dirk
>>
>>
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>
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From msdark at archlinux.cl  Mon Mar 29 23:00:14 2010
From: msdark at archlinux.cl (=?ISO-8859-1?B?TWF07WFzIEhlcm7hbmRleg==?= Arellano)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 00:00:14 -0300
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Google Summer of Code
Message-ID: <20100330000014.27f8dbc5@archlinux.cl>

Hello, my name is Mat?as Hern?ndez Arellano, I am a student of Civil
Engineering Computer Science at Catholic University of Maule, Chile. At
the moment I am studying the last 4 courses, for already the holder and
get my degree.

I've been several years studying and learning about web programming, I
started long before joining the University, around 2001 and I'm Linux
user from the same period, I'm actually a founding member of the
official community ArchLinux in Chile.

I would love to join you in the Google Summer of Code, working on the
project by the idea "Cross Site Alerting and Publication API.

I wonder what are the steps to follow to apply or other data are
required.

Greetings


From dirk at haun-online.de  Tue Mar 30 01:59:44 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:59:44 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Google Summer of Code
In-Reply-To: <20100330000014.27f8dbc5@archlinux.cl>
References: <20100330000014.27f8dbc5@archlinux.cl>
Message-ID: <20100330055944.1739756094@smtp.haun-online.de>

Mat?as Hern?ndez Arellano wrote:

>I would love to join you in the Google Summer of Code, working on the
>project by the idea "Cross Site Alerting and Publication API.
>
>I wonder what are the steps to follow to apply or other data are
>required.

Thanks for your interest.

I'd suggest you familiarize yourself with Geeklog so that you can get
some ideas on how to implement this. Also, this project was already
proposed last year, so you may find some additional information in the
mailing list archives.

Our ideas page has some helpful general links. If there are any specific
questions, feel free to ask them here or on IRC.

    http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Google_Summer_of_Code

bye, Dirk


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From msdark at archlinux.cl  Tue Mar 30 03:05:44 2010
From: msdark at archlinux.cl (=?ISO-8859-1?B?TWF07WFzIEhlcm7hbmRleg==?= Arellano)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 04:05:44 -0300
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Google Summer of Code
In-Reply-To: <20100330055944.1739756094@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <20100330000014.27f8dbc5@archlinux.cl>
	<20100330055944.1739756094@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <20100330040544.03f731c7@archlinux.cl>

El Tue, 30 Mar 2010 06:59:44 +0100
"Dirk Haun" <dirk at haun-online.de> escribi?:
> Mat?as Hern?ndez Arellano wrote:
> 
> >I would love to join you in the Google Summer of Code, working on the
> >project by the idea "Cross Site Alerting and Publication API.
> >
> >I wonder what are the steps to follow to apply or other data are
> >required.
> 
> Thanks for your interest.
> 
> I'd suggest you familiarize yourself with Geeklog so that you can get
> some ideas on how to implement this. Also, this project was already
> proposed last year, so you may find some additional information in the
> mailing list archives.
> 
> Our ideas page has some helpful general links. If there are any
> specific questions, feel free to ask them here or on IRC.
> 
>     http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Google_Summer_of_Code
> 
> bye, Dirk
> 
> 
Thank you for your quick response, I've been studying the functioning
of GeekLog and its source code (download it from the Mercurial
repository), plus I've read the documentation for source code and
Coding Standards.

It would be interesting to start testing some things either open a bug
or have any idea that that is not part of the GSoC projects ..

Greetings


From rasade88 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 03:24:37 2010
From: rasade88 at gmail.com (Ramindu Deshapriya)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 13:09:37 +0545
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
In-Reply-To: <20100326065213.1464626430@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834AF@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
	<8319e2d61003221422h590dde8ah63314692918f6eaf@mail.gmail.com>
	<c86c05ef1003221724u44cc7359jc248a3a10ab8b8cb@mail.gmail.com>
	<8319e2d61003222011k7510d077v687486037cedb8f7@mail.gmail.com>
	<c86c05ef1003231021q564c320bl9763d24b097f10ae@mail.gmail.com>
	<8319e2d61003231229j6c1aa8b8x5361bb8bb30cd431@mail.gmail.com>
	<c86c05ef1003251936t5ed351aaw7eab9f80cc636939@mail.gmail.com>
	<8319e2d61003252319r2b3f7b1an83583e7e033b26b6@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100326065213.1464626430@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <c86c05ef1003300024y5cd51e99jbdc1259ad6337418@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
VirtueMart contains separate modules for payment and shipping. It also
contains a host of features which make it more like a CMS within itself. :|
I was wondering what exactly should be the features that I should port over
to Geeklog? I was thinking on the lines of,

   - Creation of sales item lists with descriptions, images etc
   - Online payment via payment gateways such as Paypal
   - Shopping cart functionality, adding items to the cart, removing,
   maintaining cart over a session
   - Database tables containing details of previous purchases
   - UI implementations such as AJAX-based pop-up item descriptions
   - Security measures - encryption etc


Anything else that should be added?

I am in the process of writing the proposal, and need to include which
features I will be carrying over to the Geeklog plugin.

Thanks!

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:

> Vincent Furia wrote:
>
> >You can find what we're looking for in your application/proposal on
> >the Geeklog GSOC homepage here:
> >http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_org/google/gsoc2010/
> >geeklog/geeklog
>
> Which is the same page that you end up on when going via the list of
> accepted orgs:
>
>  http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/home/google/gsoc2010/geeklog
>
> But the URL is shorter :)
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.geeklog.net/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>



-- 
Yours Truly,
Ramindu Deshapriya.
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Tue Mar 30 03:29:56 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 09:29:56 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Google Summer of Code
Message-ID: <20100330092956.17514qz9dr7xffcw@webmail.df.eu>


Mat?as Hern?ndez Arellano wrote:

> It would be interesting to start testing some things either open a bug
> or have any idea that that is not part of the GSoC projects ..

Our bugtracker has 161 issues for your perusal :)

   http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view_all_bug_page.php

Also, right now, we could use some help in general testing of the  
development version and of the new PostgreSQL support in particular  
since we want to release this version real soon now.

bye, Dirk





From msdark at archlinux.cl  Tue Mar 30 04:42:11 2010
From: msdark at archlinux.cl (Matias Hernandez)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 05:42:11 -0300
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Google Summer of Code
In-Reply-To: <20100330092956.17514qz9dr7xffcw@webmail.df.eu>
References: <20100330092956.17514qz9dr7xffcw@webmail.df.eu>
Message-ID: <1a03a19d1003300142l5b722e13q26498753152f10f5@mail.gmail.com>

Great, is where I get the development version? "Using Mercurial?
I like the idea of testing in general some of the projects I've worked in
areas where I have got on are development and testing.

2010/3/30 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>

>
> Mat?as Hern?ndez Arellano wrote:
>
>  It would be interesting to start testing some things either open a bug
>> or have any idea that that is not part of the GSoC projects ..
>>
>
> Our bugtracker has 161 issues for your perusal :)
>
>  http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view_all_bug_page.php
>
> Also, right now, we could use some help in general testing of the
> development version and of the new PostgreSQL support in particular since we
> want to release this version real soon now.
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>



-- 
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Ingenier?a Civil Inform?tica
Miembro Fundador Archlinux-CL - WikiAdmin
www.msdark.archlinux.cl
www.twitter.com/msdark
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From buddhikawijesinghe at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 04:42:38 2010
From: buddhikawijesinghe at gmail.com (buddhika wijesinghe)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 14:12:38 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] New Calender Plugin
Message-ID: <9656cbf41003300142t4681c3c8o5957791c2dad562a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I'm a student of Department of Computer Science and Engineering, University
of Moratuwa,Sri Lanka.
I hope to work on your New Calender plugin project idea. I have some
clarifications to solve regarding this project. How can i contact a mentor.

Thanks,
Buddhika
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From msdark at archlinux.cl  Tue Mar 30 04:57:43 2010
From: msdark at archlinux.cl (Matias Hernandez)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 05:57:43 -0300
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Better look & feel in admin panel
Message-ID: <1a03a19d1003300157t26bd1e89ic85b567f4b6f4915@mail.gmail.com>

've been watching and I noticed that the admin panel and the panel to create
new stories is something "old fashioned", I think (in my humble opinion)
could be improved and even simplified view of these panels, creating
perhaps a menu bar drop-down style, add some actions through pop-style
collection, generally improve the look and feel of the administration and
the various "panels" (ie new comment).

-- 
Mat?as Hern?ndez Arellano (msdark)
Ingenier?a Civil Inform?tica
Miembro Fundador Archlinux-CL - WikiAdmin
www.msdark.archlinux.cl
www.twitter.com/msdark
www.identi.ca/msdark
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From vladvoic at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 08:03:56 2010
From: vladvoic at gmail.com (Vlad Voicu)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:03:56 +0300
Subject: [geeklog-devel] New Calender Plugin
In-Reply-To: <9656cbf41003300142t4681c3c8o5957791c2dad562a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9656cbf41003300142t4681c3c8o5957791c2dad562a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <3171d95d1003300503g7c5dea04ne087e67c9737c434@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:42 AM, buddhika wijesinghe
<buddhikawijesinghe at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I'm a student of Department of Computer Science and Engineering, University
> of Moratuwa,Sri Lanka.
> I hope to work on your New Calender plugin project idea. I have some
> clarifications to solve regarding this project. How can i contact a mentor.
> Thanks,
> Buddhika


Hi Buddhika,

Currently, as far as I know, geeklog hasn't assigned a mentor for
everything, as the number of mentors is smaller than the number of
projects. So the mentors will be distributed after the review of the
proposals. I am sure that if you ask your questions here on the
dev-list, you will get your answers and maybe help others that try to
apply for this project (me included).

Regards,
Vlad


From vfuria at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 10:56:35 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:56:35 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] New Calender Plugin
In-Reply-To: <3171d95d1003300503g7c5dea04ne087e67c9737c434@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9656cbf41003300142t4681c3c8o5957791c2dad562a@mail.gmail.com> 
	<3171d95d1003300503g7c5dea04ne087e67c9737c434@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8319e2d61003300756n10c38e8l6398b0f327cb6cdf@mail.gmail.com>

Buddhika,

Everything Vlad said is correct. However, I've become the focal for
answering questions about the calendar plugin project. If you have specific
questions or want to share information privately you can email me personally
or email all the mentors at the Geeklog mentors only mailing list:
contact-us at lists.geeklog.net.

Thanks for your interest,
Vinny

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Vlad Voicu <vladvoic at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:42 AM, buddhika wijesinghe
> <buddhikawijesinghe at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I'm a student of Department of Computer Science and Engineering,
> University
> > of Moratuwa,Sri Lanka.
> > I hope to work on your New Calender plugin project idea. I have some
> > clarifications to solve regarding this project. How can i contact a
> mentor.
> > Thanks,
> > Buddhika
>
>
> Hi Buddhika,
>
> Currently, as far as I know, geeklog hasn't assigned a mentor for
> everything, as the number of mentors is smaller than the number of
> projects. So the mentors will be distributed after the review of the
> proposals. I am sure that if you ask your questions here on the
> dev-list, you will get your answers and maybe help others that try to
> apply for this project (me included).
>
> Regards,
> Vlad
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 12:42:34 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:42:34 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Google Summer of Code
In-Reply-To: <1a03a19d1003300142l5b722e13q26498753152f10f5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100330092956.17514qz9dr7xffcw@webmail.df.eu> 
	<1a03a19d1003300142l5b722e13q26498753152f10f5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8319e2d61003300942j14da8112qec9676f70ece9bfb@mail.gmail.com>

There are two ways to get the "development version" of Geeklog. Either using
anonymous access using Mercurial or else by downloading a nightly tarball.
See: http://www.geeklog.net/staticpages/index.php/CVS

-Vinny

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 4:42 AM, Matias Hernandez <msdark at archlinux.cl>wrote:

> Great, is where I get the development version? "Using Mercurial?
> I like the idea of testing in general some of the projects I've worked in
> areas where I have got on are development and testing.
>
> 2010/3/30 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>
>
>
>> Mat?as Hern?ndez Arellano wrote:
>>
>>  It would be interesting to start testing some things either open a bug
>>> or have any idea that that is not part of the GSoC projects ..
>>>
>>
>> Our bugtracker has 161 issues for your perusal :)
>>
>>  http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view_all_bug_page.php
>>
>> Also, right now, we could use some help in general testing of the
>> development version and of the new PostgreSQL support in particular since we
>> want to release this version real soon now.
>>
>> bye, Dirk
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Mat?as Hern?ndez Arellano (msdark)
> Ingenier?a Civil Inform?tica
> Miembro Fundador Archlinux-CL - WikiAdmin
> www.msdark.archlinux.cl
> www.twitter.com/msdark
> www.identi.ca/msdark
> Jabber: msdark at jabberes.org
>
>
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 12:47:07 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:47:07 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
In-Reply-To: <c86c05ef1003300024y5cd51e99jbdc1259ad6337418@mail.gmail.com>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834AF@nex-pluto.nextide.ca> 
	<8319e2d61003221422h590dde8ah63314692918f6eaf@mail.gmail.com> 
	<c86c05ef1003221724u44cc7359jc248a3a10ab8b8cb@mail.gmail.com> 
	<8319e2d61003222011k7510d077v687486037cedb8f7@mail.gmail.com> 
	<c86c05ef1003231021q564c320bl9763d24b097f10ae@mail.gmail.com> 
	<8319e2d61003231229j6c1aa8b8x5361bb8bb30cd431@mail.gmail.com> 
	<c86c05ef1003251936t5ed351aaw7eab9f80cc636939@mail.gmail.com> 
	<8319e2d61003252319r2b3f7b1an83583e7e033b26b6@mail.gmail.com> 
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Message-ID: <8319e2d61003300947s4982df97ge861e0c64b96e8de@mail.gmail.com>

Ramindu,

That is a great outline. I'd suggest (likely under the banner of security
measures) considering how the e-commerce system can integrate with Geeklog's
security model (e.g. groups, access rights, ownership, etc).

Ideally, I'd like to see a plugable payment system. That way users can
choose from several options or implement their own. Whether that is
supported by VirtueMart, incorporated through another open source project,
or coded by you should probably be included in your proposal.

-Vinny

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello,
> VirtueMart contains separate modules for payment and shipping. It also
> contains a host of features which make it more like a CMS within itself. :|
> I was wondering what exactly should be the features that I should port over
> to Geeklog? I was thinking on the lines of,
>
>    - Creation of sales item lists with descriptions, images etc
>    - Online payment via payment gateways such as Paypal
>    - Shopping cart functionality, adding items to the cart, removing,
>    maintaining cart over a session
>    - Database tables containing details of previous purchases
>    - UI implementations such as AJAX-based pop-up item descriptions
>    - Security measures - encryption etc
>
>
> Anything else that should be added?
>
> I am in the process of writing the proposal, and need to include which
> features I will be carrying over to the Geeklog plugin.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
>
>> Vincent Furia wrote:
>>
>> >You can find what we're looking for in your application/proposal on
>> >the Geeklog GSOC homepage here:
>> >http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_org/google/gsoc2010/
>> >geeklog/geeklog
>>
>> Which is the same page that you end up on when going via the list of
>> accepted orgs:
>>
>>  http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/home/google/gsoc2010/geeklog
>>
>> But the URL is shorter :)
>>
>> bye, Dirk
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.geeklog.net/
>> http://geeklog.info/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Yours Truly,
> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Tue Mar 30 13:52:01 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:52:01 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Google Summer of Code
In-Reply-To: <1a03a19d1003300142l5b722e13q26498753152f10f5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100330092956.17514qz9dr7xffcw@webmail.df.eu>
	<1a03a19d1003300142l5b722e13q26498753152f10f5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100330175201.1808046639@smtp.haun-online.de>

Matias Hernandez wrote:

>Great, is where I get the development version? "Using Mercurial?

Yes.
<http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Installing_from_the_Mercurial_Repository>

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From dirk at haun-online.de  Tue Mar 30 14:21:17 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 20:21:17 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] [contact-us]  Updated proposal for GSOC
In-Reply-To: <2b0bcc381003300101q4b150605ofa06384273fa2d97@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2b0bcc381003281254y38bdc689p1e3f57dffaf7576e@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100328210350.1615783035@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<2b0bcc381003281459v47777d19ye014298bf51c6f1d@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100329181933.1678209069@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<2b0bcc381003300101q4b150605ofa06384273fa2d97@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100330182117.1431230863@smtp.haun-online.de>

Abhishek Shrivastava wrote:

>I understand you like students to make decisions
>before proposals. even i would love to! But I don't know what channel should
>I use... public irc or private emails.. ?

For technical discussions, a public place would be better (geeklog-devel
or IRC), so that others can chime in. So I'm redirecting this back to
geeklog-devel.


[regarding the Configuration GUI project]
>1) For the AJAX search box, should the response from the server come as XML
>or a JSON object...

I have no clear opinion on this. JSON seems to more commonly used. PHP
has native functions for JSON as of PHP 5.2 and for earlier versions,
there's a PEAR package. So that shouldn't be a problem.


>But then JSON are parsed using eval() function, which can create
>trouble if the response contains malicious codes (well actually, it
>shouldn't happen because the server is within user's control).

Good point. I would assume there are best practices so that JSON
requests aren't easily spoofed. That's something that should be
mentioned in the proposal.


>2) For the access-control features, should we fine-grain the permissions to
>per-option basis or per-configuration-group basis will do ?

In practise, permissions per fieldset are probably fine-grained enough.
I can imagine that some of the fieldsets need to broken up and
rearranged, though.

From a technical point of view, since the fieldsets and the actual
options are all in the same table, you would end up with unused
permission fields on every option, so you may as well go all the way. Is
this something that could be implemented in two steps? Per fieldset in
any case, per option if time permits?


>3) Then there's another thing to be looked into.. whether we should create a
>new table for storing permissions of user-groups over config-groups or can
>we just add the config-groups as "features" to the already existing
>features,featurecodes and access tables...

Is there any real benefit in having a second table?

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.haun-online.de/
http://geeklog.info/



From smclark89 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 15:13:49 2010
From: smclark89 at gmail.com (Sean Clark)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 15:13:49 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Project proposal - is it visible?
Message-ID: <518b10691003301213h407a4520sb8fe7cdd1a494f6f@mail.gmail.com>

Hey, I submitted my project proposal on the Summer of Code site. However, it
would be great if there was some feedback on it, and make whatever necessary
changes. Can the relevant community members see the application, or should I
post a link to it here?

- Sean
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From abhi.nitt at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 15:56:45 2010
From: abhi.nitt at gmail.com (Abhishek Shrivastava)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 01:26:45 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] [contact-us] Updated proposal for GSOC
In-Reply-To: <20100330182117.1431230863@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <2b0bcc381003281254y38bdc689p1e3f57dffaf7576e@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100328210350.1615783035@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<2b0bcc381003281459v47777d19ye014298bf51c6f1d@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100329181933.1678209069@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<2b0bcc381003300101q4b150605ofa06384273fa2d97@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100330182117.1431230863@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <2b0bcc381003301256k10e3cf71ved5136da595d83ac@mail.gmail.com>

> JSON seems to more commonly used. PHP
> has native functions for JSON as of PHP 5.2 and for earlier versions,
> there's a PEAR package. So that shouldn't be a problem.

Yes, I think JSON will do. Previously, I was doubtful if JSON was the
best choice for parsing at the client-side? Not just JSON has security
issues but in XML, using the Xpath language along with XLST can
retrieve results based on "relations" faster... But I think such type
of "relations"-based retrieval will not be necessary for implementing
an AJAX search-box ...

> I would assume there are best practices so that JSON
> requests aren't easily spoofed.

json.org have released a so-called "JSON parser" in the public domain.
It also uses eval() at its core, but it applies filters beforehand to
reject all the javascript codes in the input and only accept JSON
syntax. http://www.json.org/json2.js
I think we can use this code to boost our json security. However,
before deploying it, I would like to go through the code and write
test-cases to ensure it doesn't have any bugs because the author takes
no guarantee! :|

> In practise, permissions per fieldset are probably fine-grained enough.
> I can imagine that some of the fieldsets need to broken up and
> rearranged, though.

I think we should preserve the current structure of the fieldsets.
Breaking up the current fieldset structure will also disturb the way
the configurations default page looks now. But we are not giving away
with our current configurations page, we are only adding new features
to it. For those users who are accustomed to current arrangement of
fieldsets, it can become a problem. Also breaking down means adding
more number of fieldsets to the configurations pages. This is likely
going to cause more troubles for those who like digging their way into
config pages.

My suggestion is : how about we distinguish between "fieldsets" and
"config-groups" ?? Fieldsets can be kept only for the sake of
displaying a set of similar configurations within a border... Without
having to create more fieldsets, we can actually add a new "column" in
the the conf_values table called "config-group", indicating the ID of
the config-group to which the configuration belongs to... The
advantage of adding a new column is that we can assign a configuration
to multiple config-groups by using comma separated IDs in the
config-group field. If we use fieldset, we would end up displaying one
option twice in the same page under 2 different fieldsets... But in
case of config-groups, we can first take the union of all the
config-groups the user has access to and display them..  and we can
also make use of the fieldset column to group the list of resulting
configurations while displaying on the page...


> From a technical point of view, since the fieldsets and the actual
> options are all in the same table, you would end up with unused
> permission fields on every option, so you may as well go all the way.

This would happen only if we put the permission field in the same
table containing fieldsets and options i.e. the "conf_values" table.
Thats why I am suggesting the creation of a new table, which would
only contain config-groups as entries and the permission fields.

> Is this something that could be implemented in two steps? Per fieldset in
> any case, per option if time permits?

Yes actually it can be implemented. There's no harm in implementing
per-option basis also. After all, it would be under root's control to
use it or not. I think it would be used only at the rarest of rare
situations, but it still adds as a feature to geeklog. If time
permits, it can be done.

> Is there any real benefit in having a second table?

Having a separate table for config_groups will add to the
well-structured core of geeklog, because config_groups are not exactly
"features". Not only it will clutter up the features table with lots
of config entries, but it will also limit the capability to extend the
limits of configuration in future. If we want to add some more
features to the config-groups in future, it would be good if we have a
separate table to apply the new features directly instead of thinking
of ways to accomodate it within the limited structure of the features
table.


I would soon add images in my proposal to better clarify my idea about
access control structure.


With Best Regards,
Abhishek Shrivastava.


From vfuria at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 16:05:12 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:05:12 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Project proposal - is it visible?
In-Reply-To: <518b10691003301213h407a4520sb8fe7cdd1a494f6f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <518b10691003301213h407a4520sb8fe7cdd1a494f6f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8319e2d61003301305l786b4eeap4545443feefc09b8@mail.gmail.com>

The mentors can see the apps when they are posted (and we can see yours).
Comments will come, please be patient. If you'd like people other than the
mentors to review your application, posting a link to geeklog-devel would be
a good idea.

-Vinny

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:13 PM, Sean Clark <smclark89 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey, I submitted my project proposal on the Summer of Code site. However,
> it would be great if there was some feedback on it, and make whatever
> necessary changes. Can the relevant community members see the application,
> or should I post a link to it here?
>
> - Sean
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 16:07:18 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:07:18 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC Information Recap
Message-ID: <8319e2d61003301307r11a625b2yf476ffe817302f35@mail.gmail.com>

Just wanted to spread some information around. This is mostly a rehash of
information found on the wiki, just wanted to reiterate it as there have
been lots of questions on these topics.

Our GSoC Page:
http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/home/google/gsoc2010/geeklog
Our GSoc Wiki: http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Google_Summer_of_Code

Private and/or confidential information (such as CVs, Draft
Project Proposals, etc) should be sent to the mentor's mailing list at
contact-us at lists.geeklog.net. Project questions and discussion should be
addressed to (and you should subscribe to) geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net.
(See the mailing list FAQ:
http://www.geeklog.net/faqman/index.php?op=view&t=15). The Geeklog forums (
http://www.geeklog.net/forum/index.php) are a good place to get in contact
with the broader Geeklog community. This may be useful to get an idea as to
how our users may actually use your project.

Regarding proposals: The GSoC page contains the proposal template. For
Geeklog, the template is a list of questions we would like to see answered
by your proposal. Strong applications will contain design and implementation
details along with a realistic schedule. Don't forgot to leave time in your
schedule for testing and integration. It is important to note that May 24th
is the start of the coding period. Any design, setup and preparation work
(i.e. getting up and running with a development environment) should all be
completed before this date. Submitting a patch for a bug or a feature
request (which can be found on Geeklog's bug tracker:
http://project.geeklog.net/tracking) is a required part of the application.

Please feel free to ask questions, you can use the mailing lists and IRC (
freenode.net, #geeklog).

Thanks,
Vinny
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Tue Mar 30 16:08:32 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:08:32 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Project proposal - is it visible?
In-Reply-To: <518b10691003301213h407a4520sb8fe7cdd1a494f6f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <518b10691003301213h407a4520sb8fe7cdd1a494f6f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100330200832.1478197920@smtp.haun-online.de>

Sean Clark wrote:

>Can the relevant community members see the application, or should I
>post a link to it here?

Thanks, we got your proposal just fine.

I'm currently trying to stay on top of all the draft proposals in
various emails and mailing lists whereas the ones in the webapp are in
that nice list where I know they won't get buried ... Will get to them ASAP.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From aqrowles at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 16:18:22 2010
From: aqrowles at gmail.com (Anthony Rowles)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 16:18:22 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Updated proposal for GSOC
In-Reply-To: <2b0bcc381003301256k10e3cf71ved5136da595d83ac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2b0bcc381003281254y38bdc689p1e3f57dffaf7576e@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100328210350.1615783035@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<2b0bcc381003281459v47777d19ye014298bf51c6f1d@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100329181933.1678209069@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<2b0bcc381003300101q4b150605ofa06384273fa2d97@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100330182117.1431230863@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<2b0bcc381003301256k10e3cf71ved5136da595d83ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <7e64bec31003301318n605a7466w9d054fe7f7a98e78@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:56 PM, Abhishek Shrivastava
<abhi.nitt at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> json.org have released a so-called "JSON parser" in the public domain.
> It also uses eval() at its core, but it applies filters beforehand to
> reject all the javascript codes in the input and only accept JSON
> syntax. http://www.json.org/json2.js
> I think we can use this code to boost our json security. However,
> before deploying it, I would like to go through the code and write
> test-cases to ensure it doesn't have any bugs because the author takes
> no guarantee! :|

One thing to note is that as of 1.4.1, jQuery's parseJSON() function
uses the native JSON support in newer browsers (fast, safe, no eval),
and falls back to json.org's "safe" JSON parser in older browsers.

- Tony


From dragnoir at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 16:12:45 2010
From: dragnoir at gmail.com (Dragon Noir)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:12:45 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Want to apply for the Google Summer of Code project
Message-ID: <fb35924f1003301312v67855e87j3edfe2fd986c407b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

My name is Rachid and I have a good experience with PHP/MYSQL, CSS, XML,
HTML5 and I had made some web sites.
I want to participate in developing Geeklog
Maybe there are people more qualified than me, but I am ready to convince
all the difficulties and improve Geeklog and make it more efficient
I'll work with you in this area, I am ready to do everything well and
participate in this project
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Tue Mar 30 16:54:34 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 22:54:34 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Want to apply for the Google Summer of Code
 project
In-Reply-To: <fb35924f1003301312v67855e87j3edfe2fd986c407b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <fb35924f1003301312v67855e87j3edfe2fd986c407b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100330205434.2115550138@smtp.haun-online.de>

Dragon Noir wrote:

>I want to participate in developing Geeklog

Welcome :)


>I'll work with you in this area, I am ready to do everything well and
>participate in this project

So, do you have any particular project in mind?

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From abhi.nitt at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 17:23:09 2010
From: abhi.nitt at gmail.com (Abhishek Shrivastava)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 02:53:09 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Updated proposal for GSOC
In-Reply-To: <2b0bcc381003301326r43b72a48r6d1ede885f3307b8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2b0bcc381003281254y38bdc689p1e3f57dffaf7576e@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100328210350.1615783035@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<2b0bcc381003281459v47777d19ye014298bf51c6f1d@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100329181933.1678209069@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<2b0bcc381003300101q4b150605ofa06384273fa2d97@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100330182117.1431230863@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<2b0bcc381003301256k10e3cf71ved5136da595d83ac@mail.gmail.com>
	<7e64bec31003301318n605a7466w9d054fe7f7a98e78@mail.gmail.com>
	<2b0bcc381003301326r43b72a48r6d1ede885f3307b8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <2b0bcc381003301423y47fd5a1dh37b7049e85aa0770@mail.gmail.com>

Hello  mentors,

I got an email from geeklog dev list saying my post was rejected. I
don't know why and I even don't know which post got rejected. Is the
one in which I attached a PDF file as an example ?? Can anyone tell me
the reason for rejection ?

Regards.

On 3/31/10, Abhishek Shrivastava <abhi.nitt at gmail.com> wrote:
> Please see the attached PDF. I tried to create sample table to show my
> idea of the structure of access-control database....
>
>>One thing to note is that as of 1.4.1, jQuery's parseJSON() function
>>uses the native JSON support in newer browsers (fast, safe, no eval),
>>and falls back to json.org's "safe" JSON parser in older browsers.
>
> Thanks. Good point :)
>


From dirk at haun-online.de  Tue Mar 30 17:27:43 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:27:43 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Updated proposal for GSOC
In-Reply-To: <2b0bcc381003301423y47fd5a1dh37b7049e85aa0770@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2b0bcc381003281254y38bdc689p1e3f57dffaf7576e@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100328210350.1615783035@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<2b0bcc381003281459v47777d19ye014298bf51c6f1d@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100329181933.1678209069@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<2b0bcc381003300101q4b150605ofa06384273fa2d97@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100330182117.1431230863@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<2b0bcc381003301256k10e3cf71ved5136da595d83ac@mail.gmail.com>
	<7e64bec31003301318n605a7466w9d054fe7f7a98e78@mail.gmail.com>
	<2b0bcc381003301326r43b72a48r6d1ede885f3307b8@mail.gmail.com>
	<2b0bcc381003301423y47fd5a1dh37b7049e85aa0770@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100330212743.1974099590@smtp.haun-online.de>

Abhishek Shrivastava wrote:

>I got an email from geeklog dev list saying my post was rejected. I
>don't know why and I even don't know which post got rejected.

Yeah, sorry, forgot to send an email along with that.

Please don't send big file to this list, or everybody on here has to
download them. You can link to your proposal or send it to contact-us.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.haun-online.de/
http://geeklog.info/



From abhi.nitt at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 17:34:54 2010
From: abhi.nitt at gmail.com (Abhishek Shrivastava)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 03:04:54 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Access-control database structure
Message-ID: <2b0bcc381003301434y1cd00d0bja5fbb3b9bbccaab5@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

Please check the link to see an example table structure of the
database for access-control for configurations. This is a follow up
mail to my previous email.

https://docs.google.com/fileview?id=0BzPlZmzP_YlrMTk5YmUzODEtZWU2ZS00ODZmLWI2MmYtNzNjMjIyYTcyYWFm&hl=en

Regards,
Abhishek Shrivastava.


From smclark89 at gmail.com  Tue Mar 30 18:42:35 2010
From: smclark89 at gmail.com (Sean Clark)
Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 18:42:35 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Project proposal - is it visible?
In-Reply-To: <20100330200832.1478197920@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <518b10691003301213h407a4520sb8fe7cdd1a494f6f@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100330200832.1478197920@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <518b10691003301542k6504b51cj3f621310ef6a0c74@mail.gmail.com>

>
> I'm currently trying to stay on top of all the draft proposals in
> various emails and mailing lists whereas the ones in the webapp are in
> that nice list where I know they won't get buried ... Will get to them
> ASAP.
>

That's fine, just was afraid of finding out in a week it was the other way
around, and nobody could see it until the deadline :)

By the way, does the this mailing list accept emails from people whose
address isn't subscribed? For example, if I had another address forward it
to me, then I tried to reply (to the list, of course), would that fail with
no notification?

- Sean
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Mar 31 01:58:08 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 07:58:08 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Preparations for 1.7.0
Message-ID: <20100331055808.195546400@smtp.haun-online.de>

I'd like to release a first beta of Geeklog 1.7.0 this coming weekend.

Is anyone still working on anything that should make it into this
release? Any remaining issues that I should be aware of?

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From rouslan at placella.com  Wed Mar 31 05:50:08 2010
From: rouslan at placella.com (Rouslan Placella)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 04:50:08 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Another potential GSOC student...
Message-ID: <20100331045008.mo34etr1w84048ko@webmail.opentransfer.com>

Hello everyone,

I'm dropping by to introduce myself a little and I would also like to  
express my interest in coding for your project this summer as part of  
the GSOC program. My name is Rouslan and I'm a student from Ireland.  
I'm currently studying for the "Advanced certificate in networks and  
software systems" at the "College of Commerce" in Cork.

I downloaded the latest source code from the mercury repository and  
I'm now poking around to see how things work.

Well, I guess I don't have much else to say at the moment. Talk soon.

Rouslan


From buddhikawijesinghe at gmail.com  Wed Mar 31 08:38:19 2010
From: buddhikawijesinghe at gmail.com (buddhika wijesinghe)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:08:19 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] geeklog-devel Digest, Vol 39, Issue 49
In-Reply-To: <mailman.51.1269973581.11687.geeklog-devel@lists.geeklog.net>
References: <mailman.51.1269973581.11687.geeklog-devel@lists.geeklog.net>
Message-ID: <p2n9656cbf41003310538z3b2c3f1aj798b906957186eda@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
Thanks for your reply to my e-mail regarding New calender plugin. I checked
out your source code.
Can i install a local copy of your source code to my computer?
After a walk through on your source code  i think i can understand your
requirement well.

Thank you
Buddhika.

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:56 PM,
<geeklog-devel-request at lists.geeklog.net>wrote:

> Send geeklog-devel mailing list submissions to
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> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of geeklog-devel digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
>   1. Re: New Calender Plugin (Vincent Furia)
>   2. Re: Google Summer of Code (Vincent Furia)
>   3. Re: GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
>      (Vincent Furia)
>   4. Re: Google Summer of Code (Dirk Haun)
>   5. Re: [contact-us]  Updated proposal for GSOC (Dirk Haun)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:56:35 -0400
> From: Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] New Calender Plugin
> To: Geeklog Development <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
> Message-ID:
>        <8319e2d61003300756n10c38e8l6398b0f327cb6cdf at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Buddhika,
>
> Everything Vlad said is correct. However, I've become the focal for
> answering questions about the calendar plugin project. If you have specific
> questions or want to share information privately you can email me
> personally
> or email all the mentors at the Geeklog mentors only mailing list:
> contact-us at lists.geeklog.net.
>
> Thanks for your interest,
> Vinny
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Vlad Voicu <vladvoic at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:42 AM, buddhika wijesinghe
> > <buddhikawijesinghe at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > I'm a student of Department of Computer Science and Engineering,
> > University
> > > of Moratuwa,Sri Lanka.
> > > I hope to work on your New Calender plugin project idea. I have some
> > > clarifications to solve regarding this project. How can i contact a
> > mentor.
> > > Thanks,
> > > Buddhika
> >
> >
> > Hi Buddhika,
> >
> > Currently, as far as I know, geeklog hasn't assigned a mentor for
> > everything, as the number of mentors is smaller than the number of
> > projects. So the mentors will be distributed after the review of the
> > proposals. I am sure that if you ask your questions here on the
> > dev-list, you will get your answers and maybe help others that try to
> > apply for this project (me included).
> >
> > Regards,
> > Vlad
> > _______________________________________________
> > geeklog-devel mailing list
> > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:42:34 -0400
> From: Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Google Summer of Code
> To: Geeklog Development <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
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> There are two ways to get the "development version" of Geeklog. Either
> using
> anonymous access using Mercurial or else by downloading a nightly tarball.
> See: http://www.geeklog.net/staticpages/index.php/CVS
>
> -Vinny
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 4:42 AM, Matias Hernandez <msdark at archlinux.cl
> >wrote:
>
> > Great, is where I get the development version? "Using Mercurial?
> > I like the idea of testing in general some of the projects I've worked in
> > areas where I have got on are development and testing.
> >
> > 2010/3/30 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>
> >
> >
> >> Mat?as Hern?ndez Arellano wrote:
> >>
> >>  It would be interesting to start testing some things either open a bug
> >>> or have any idea that that is not part of the GSoC projects ..
> >>>
> >>
> >> Our bugtracker has 161 issues for your perusal :)
> >>
> >>  http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view_all_bug_page.php
> >>
> >> Also, right now, we could use some help in general testing of the
> >> development version and of the new PostgreSQL support in particular
> since we
> >> want to release this version real soon now.
> >>
> >> bye, Dirk
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> geeklog-devel mailing list
> >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Mat?as Hern?ndez Arellano (msdark)
> > Ingenier?a Civil Inform?tica
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> >
> >
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> From: Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart
>        plugin
> To: Geeklog Development <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
> Message-ID:
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> Ramindu,
>
> That is a great outline. I'd suggest (likely under the banner of security
> measures) considering how the e-commerce system can integrate with
> Geeklog's
> security model (e.g. groups, access rights, ownership, etc).
>
> Ideally, I'd like to see a plugable payment system. That way users can
> choose from several options or implement their own. Whether that is
> supported by VirtueMart, incorporated through another open source project,
> or coded by you should probably be included in your proposal.
>
> -Vinny
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com
> >wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > VirtueMart contains separate modules for payment and shipping. It also
> > contains a host of features which make it more like a CMS within itself.
> :|
> > I was wondering what exactly should be the features that I should port
> over
> > to Geeklog? I was thinking on the lines of,
> >
> >    - Creation of sales item lists with descriptions, images etc
> >    - Online payment via payment gateways such as Paypal
> >    - Shopping cart functionality, adding items to the cart, removing,
> >    maintaining cart over a session
> >    - Database tables containing details of previous purchases
> >    - UI implementations such as AJAX-based pop-up item descriptions
> >    - Security measures - encryption etc
> >
> >
> > Anything else that should be added?
> >
> > I am in the process of writing the proposal, and need to include which
> > features I will be carrying over to the Geeklog plugin.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
> >
> >> Vincent Furia wrote:
> >>
> >> >You can find what we're looking for in your application/proposal on
> >> >the Geeklog GSOC homepage here:
> >> >http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_org/google/gsoc2010/
> >> >geeklog/geeklog
> >>
> >> Which is the same page that you end up on when going via the list of
> >> accepted orgs:
> >>
> >>  http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/home/google/gsoc2010/geeklog
> >>
> >> But the URL is shorter :)
> >>
> >> bye, Dirk
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> http://www.geeklog.net/
> >> http://geeklog.info/
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> geeklog-devel mailing list
> >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Yours Truly,
> > Ramindu Deshapriya.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:52:01 +0200
> From: "Dirk Haun" <dirk at haun-online.de>
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Google Summer of Code
> To: geeklog-devel <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
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> Matias Hernandez wrote:
>
> >Great, is where I get the development version? "Using Mercurial?
>
> Yes.
> <
> http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Installing_from_the_Mercurial_Repository
> >
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.geeklog.net/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 20:21:17 +0200
> From: "Dirk Haun" <dirk at haun-online.de>
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] [contact-us]  Updated proposal for GSOC
> To: geeklog-devel <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
> Message-ID: <20100330182117.1431230863 at smtp.haun-online.de>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Abhishek Shrivastava wrote:
>
> >I understand you like students to make decisions
> >before proposals. even i would love to! But I don't know what channel
> should
> >I use... public irc or private emails.. ?
>
> For technical discussions, a public place would be better (geeklog-devel
> or IRC), so that others can chime in. So I'm redirecting this back to
> geeklog-devel.
>
>
> [regarding the Configuration GUI project]
> >1) For the AJAX search box, should the response from the server come as
> XML
> >or a JSON object...
>
> I have no clear opinion on this. JSON seems to more commonly used. PHP
> has native functions for JSON as of PHP 5.2 and for earlier versions,
> there's a PEAR package. So that shouldn't be a problem.
>
>
> >But then JSON are parsed using eval() function, which can create
> >trouble if the response contains malicious codes (well actually, it
> >shouldn't happen because the server is within user's control).
>
> Good point. I would assume there are best practices so that JSON
> requests aren't easily spoofed. That's something that should be
> mentioned in the proposal.
>
>
> >2) For the access-control features, should we fine-grain the permissions
> to
> >per-option basis or per-configuration-group basis will do ?
>
> In practise, permissions per fieldset are probably fine-grained enough.
> I can imagine that some of the fieldsets need to broken up and
> rearranged, though.
>
> >From a technical point of view, since the fieldsets and the actual
> options are all in the same table, you would end up with unused
> permission fields on every option, so you may as well go all the way. Is
> this something that could be implemented in two steps? Per fieldset in
> any case, per option if time permits?
>
>
> >3) Then there's another thing to be looked into.. whether we should create
> a
> >new table for storing permissions of user-groups over config-groups or can
> >we just add the config-groups as "features" to the already existing
> >features,featurecodes and access tables...
>
> Is there any real benefit in having a second table?
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.haun-online.de/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
>
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From rob.howard at kwfs.info  Wed Mar 31 13:47:47 2010
From: rob.howard at kwfs.info (Rob Howard - KWFS)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:47:47 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Preparations for 1.7.0
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Hi Dirk,

Is this definite, it's just that I am going to start building a new site on
geeklog 1.6.1 but if this is definitely going ahead then I will hold off.

Please let me know

Thanks,

Rob Howard
Site Owner

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Subject: [geeklog-devel] Preparations for 1.7.0

I'd like to release a first beta of Geeklog 1.7.0 this coming weekend.

Is anyone still working on anything that should make it into this
release? Any remaining issues that I should be aware of?

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From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Mar 31 14:15:26 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:15:26 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Preparations for 1.7.0
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Rob Howard - KWFS wrote:

>Is this definite, it's just that I am going to start building a new site on
>geeklog 1.6.1 but if this is definitely going ahead then I will hold off.

We've boldly declared that we want to do 2 major releases per year now,
one in April and one in November. This would be the first release in
that cycle - and I don't really want to start it off with being late :)

bye, Dirk


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From rob.howard at kwfs.info  Wed Mar 31 14:24:12 2010
From: rob.howard at kwfs.info (Rob Howard - KWFS)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:24:12 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Preparations for 1.7.0
In-Reply-To: <20100331181526.1856525490@smtp.haun-online.de>
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Fantastic, looking forward to it :)

Thanks,

Rob Howard
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Sent: 31 March 2010 19:15
To: geeklog-devel
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Preparations for 1.7.0

Rob Howard - KWFS wrote:

>Is this definite, it's just that I am going to start building a new site on
>geeklog 1.6.1 but if this is definitely going ahead then I will hold off.

We've boldly declared that we want to do 2 major releases per year now,
one in April and one in November. This would be the first release in
that cycle - and I don't really want to start it off with being late :)

bye, Dirk


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Mar 31 14:23:05 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 20:23:05 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Another potential GSOC student...
In-Reply-To: <20100331045008.mo34etr1w84048ko@webmail.opentransfer.com>
References: <20100331045008.mo34etr1w84048ko@webmail.opentransfer.com>
Message-ID: <20100331182305.171469641@smtp.haun-online.de>

Rouslan Placella wrote:

>I downloaded the latest source code from the mercury repository and  
>I'm now poking around to see how things work.

Good :) Let us know if you have any questions or when you decided on a
project.

bye, Dirk


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From vfuria at gmail.com  Wed Mar 31 14:30:27 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:30:27 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Gsoc Notification service
In-Reply-To: <c841dae1003231316k2219f9ddmab9c625e51762c67@mail.gmail.com>
References: <c841dae1003231316k2219f9ddmab9c625e51762c67@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <m2h8319e2d61003311130m9a90af68o99eb0ef3daac2cdf@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Ganesh,

Sorry for the delayed response. I had to do some research into sig-slot
architecture.

I'd be hesitant to use the package you found on phpclasses. It doesn't seem
to be well maintained and I haven't been able to find any instances of a
project successfully utilizing it. Do you know of any examples?

The Event_Dispatcher pear package seems a better choice, though I'd like to
see a description of how you use it in your design. For this project in
particular it will be necessary to start with a pretty complete design as
there will be many inter-related parts that will have to be coded (e.g.
subscriptions, notification "core", notification plugins, user/admin
configuration, etc).

I'll look forward to seeing your proposal,

-Vinny

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:16 PM, ganesh <th3iedkid at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi
> I found a pear package on event-dispatcher based on the Observer pattern
> http://pear.php.net/package/Event_Dispatcher
> I also stumbled upon a sig-slot like implementation for php which might be
> useful but its more-or less skeletal
> http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/package/3624.html
>
> If a similar sig-slot were to abstracted for the GL core which be extended
> (in the php sense of it!) by the plug-ins, wouldn't plug-in development  be
> easier? Like if an abstracted signal class with the following props like :
> ______________________________________
> SIGNAL
> ->UTC  ; when generated
> ->Level ; Security level to it
> ->Code ; a unique code to it
> ->Who ; source , could be none for automated signals
> ____________________________________________
> Slots
>  ->cleanup ; when action to be taken
> ->action ; handle to function to be activated
> ->logStorePath ; this will refer to the place where the cleaned-up
> notifications will be logged in files for future reference
> ->Code ; The code identifying the signal
>
> When we have a plugin extending these , would it cause any security
> problems??
>
> I found the discussion on email handling and throttling in gsoc 2k8 on
> notification service
> http://eight.pairlist.net/pipermail/geeklog-devel/2008-March/003290.html
> Well if GL were to put in place restrictions like frequency of signals
> granted a slot on time basis ,would it still bear any other problem ?
>
> Also for notification would something like bottom tool-bar using
> dojo/jQuery to indicate the current notifications be good idea ?
>
> tnx
> ganesh
>
>
>
>
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Wed Mar 31 14:44:13 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 12:44:13 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] geeklog-devel Digest, Vol 39, Issue 49
In-Reply-To: <p2n9656cbf41003310538z3b2c3f1aj798b906957186eda@mail.gmail.com>
References: <mailman.51.1269973581.11687.geeklog-devel@lists.geeklog.net> 
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Buddhika,

Of course you grab the source code and install it on your computer. That is
what open source is all about!

You'll need to have apache and mysql installed. Then you download the
current release <http://www.geeklog.net/filemgmt/viewcat.php?cid=8> or get
the current development version by downloading the nightly tarball or by
using Mercurial <http://www.geeklog.net/staticpages/index.php/CVS>.

There are also install instructions
here<http://www.geeklog.net/docs/english/install.html>,
as well as delivered with the source code.

-Vinny

On Wed, Mar 31, 2010 at 6:38 AM, buddhika wijesinghe <
buddhikawijesinghe at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> Thanks for your reply to my e-mail regarding New calender plugin. I checked
> out your source code.
> Can i install a local copy of your source code to my computer?
> After a walk through on your source code  i think i can understand your
> requirement well.
>
> Thank you
> Buddhika.
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:56 PM, <geeklog-devel-request at lists.geeklog.net
> > wrote:
>
>> Send geeklog-devel mailing list submissions to
>>        geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
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>>
>> You can reach the person managing the list at
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>>
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of geeklog-devel digest..."
>>
>>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>>   1. Re: New Calender Plugin (Vincent Furia)
>>   2. Re: Google Summer of Code (Vincent Furia)
>>   3. Re: GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
>>      (Vincent Furia)
>>   4. Re: Google Summer of Code (Dirk Haun)
>>   5. Re: [contact-us]  Updated proposal for GSOC (Dirk Haun)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 10:56:35 -0400
>> From: Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] New Calender Plugin
>> To: Geeklog Development <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
>> Message-ID:
>>        <8319e2d61003300756n10c38e8l6398b0f327cb6cdf at mail.gmail.com>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>>
>> Buddhika,
>>
>> Everything Vlad said is correct. However, I've become the focal for
>> answering questions about the calendar plugin project. If you have
>> specific
>> questions or want to share information privately you can email me
>> personally
>> or email all the mentors at the Geeklog mentors only mailing list:
>> contact-us at lists.geeklog.net.
>>
>> Thanks for your interest,
>> Vinny
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 8:03 AM, Vlad Voicu <vladvoic at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 11:42 AM, buddhika wijesinghe
>> > <buddhikawijesinghe at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > > I'm a student of Department of Computer Science and Engineering,
>> > University
>> > > of Moratuwa,Sri Lanka.
>> > > I hope to work on your New Calender plugin project idea. I have some
>> > > clarifications to solve regarding this project. How can i contact a
>> > mentor.
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Buddhika
>> >
>> >
>> > Hi Buddhika,
>> >
>> > Currently, as far as I know, geeklog hasn't assigned a mentor for
>> > everything, as the number of mentors is smaller than the number of
>> > projects. So the mentors will be distributed after the review of the
>> > proposals. I am sure that if you ask your questions here on the
>> > dev-list, you will get your answers and maybe help others that try to
>> > apply for this project (me included).
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Vlad
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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>> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:42:34 -0400
>> From: Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Google Summer of Code
>> To: Geeklog Development <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
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>> There are two ways to get the "development version" of Geeklog. Either
>> using
>> anonymous access using Mercurial or else by downloading a nightly tarball.
>> See: http://www.geeklog.net/staticpages/index.php/CVS
>>
>> -Vinny
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 4:42 AM, Matias Hernandez <msdark at archlinux.cl
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Great, is where I get the development version? "Using Mercurial?
>> > I like the idea of testing in general some of the projects I've worked
>> in
>> > areas where I have got on are development and testing.
>> >
>> > 2010/3/30 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>
>> >
>> >
>> >> Mat?as Hern?ndez Arellano wrote:
>> >>
>> >>  It would be interesting to start testing some things either open a bug
>> >>> or have any idea that that is not part of the GSoC projects ..
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Our bugtracker has 161 issues for your perusal :)
>> >>
>> >>  http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view_all_bug_page.php
>> >>
>> >> Also, right now, we could use some help in general testing of the
>> >> development version and of the new PostgreSQL support in particular
>> since we
>> >> want to release this version real soon now.
>> >>
>> >> bye, Dirk
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
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>> >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
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>> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:47:07 -0400
>> From: Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart
>>        plugin
>> To: Geeklog Development <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
>> Message-ID:
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>> Ramindu,
>>
>> That is a great outline. I'd suggest (likely under the banner of security
>> measures) considering how the e-commerce system can integrate with
>> Geeklog's
>> security model (e.g. groups, access rights, ownership, etc).
>>
>> Ideally, I'd like to see a plugable payment system. That way users can
>> choose from several options or implement their own. Whether that is
>> supported by VirtueMart, incorporated through another open source project,
>> or coded by you should probably be included in your proposal.
>>
>> -Vinny
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> > VirtueMart contains separate modules for payment and shipping. It also
>> > contains a host of features which make it more like a CMS within itself.
>> :|
>> > I was wondering what exactly should be the features that I should port
>> over
>> > to Geeklog? I was thinking on the lines of,
>> >
>> >    - Creation of sales item lists with descriptions, images etc
>> >    - Online payment via payment gateways such as Paypal
>> >    - Shopping cart functionality, adding items to the cart, removing,
>> >    maintaining cart over a session
>> >    - Database tables containing details of previous purchases
>> >    - UI implementations such as AJAX-based pop-up item descriptions
>> >    - Security measures - encryption etc
>> >
>> >
>> > Anything else that should be added?
>> >
>> > I am in the process of writing the proposal, and need to include which
>> > features I will be carrying over to the Geeklog plugin.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Vincent Furia wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >You can find what we're looking for in your application/proposal on
>> >> >the Geeklog GSOC homepage here:
>> >> >http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_org/google/gsoc2010/
>> >> >geeklog/geeklog
>> >>
>> >> Which is the same page that you end up on when going via the list of
>> >> accepted orgs:
>> >>
>> >>  http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/home/google/gsoc2010/geeklog
>> >>
>> >> But the URL is shorter :)
>> >>
>> >> bye, Dirk
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> http://www.geeklog.net/
>> >> http://geeklog.info/
>> >>
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>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Yours Truly,
>> > Ramindu Deshapriya.
>> >
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>> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:52:01 +0200
>> From: "Dirk Haun" <dirk at haun-online.de>
>> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Google Summer of Code
>> To: geeklog-devel <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
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>> Matias Hernandez wrote:
>>
>> >Great, is where I get the development version? "Using Mercurial?
>>
>> Yes.
>> <
>> http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Installing_from_the_Mercurial_Repository
>> >
>>
>> bye, Dirk
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.geeklog.net/
>> http://geeklog.info/
>>
>>
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>> Message: 5
>> Date: Tue, 30 Mar 2010 20:21:17 +0200
>> From: "Dirk Haun" <dirk at haun-online.de>
>> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] [contact-us]  Updated proposal for GSOC
>> To: geeklog-devel <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
>> Message-ID: <20100330182117.1431230863 at smtp.haun-online.de>
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>> Abhishek Shrivastava wrote:
>>
>> >I understand you like students to make decisions
>> >before proposals. even i would love to! But I don't know what channel
>> should
>> >I use... public irc or private emails.. ?
>>
>> For technical discussions, a public place would be better (geeklog-devel
>> or IRC), so that others can chime in. So I'm redirecting this back to
>> geeklog-devel.
>>
>>
>> [regarding the Configuration GUI project]
>> >1) For the AJAX search box, should the response from the server come as
>> XML
>> >or a JSON object...
>>
>> I have no clear opinion on this. JSON seems to more commonly used. PHP
>> has native functions for JSON as of PHP 5.2 and for earlier versions,
>> there's a PEAR package. So that shouldn't be a problem.
>>
>>
>> >But then JSON are parsed using eval() function, which can create
>> >trouble if the response contains malicious codes (well actually, it
>> >shouldn't happen because the server is within user's control).
>>
>> Good point. I would assume there are best practices so that JSON
>> requests aren't easily spoofed. That's something that should be
>> mentioned in the proposal.
>>
>>
>> >2) For the access-control features, should we fine-grain the permissions
>> to
>> >per-option basis or per-configuration-group basis will do ?
>>
>> In practise, permissions per fieldset are probably fine-grained enough.
>> I can imagine that some of the fieldsets need to broken up and
>> rearranged, though.
>>
>> >From a technical point of view, since the fieldsets and the actual
>> options are all in the same table, you would end up with unused
>> permission fields on every option, so you may as well go all the way. Is
>> this something that could be implemented in two steps? Per fieldset in
>> any case, per option if time permits?
>>
>>
>> >3) Then there's another thing to be looked into.. whether we should
>> create a
>> >new table for storing permissions of user-groups over config-groups or
>> can
>> >we just add the config-groups as "features" to the already existing
>> >features,featurecodes and access tables...
>>
>> Is there any real benefit in having a second table?
>>
>> bye, Dirk
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.haun-online.de/
>> http://geeklog.info/
>>
>>
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From wilfer.sis at gmail.com  Wed Mar 31 14:57:58 2010
From: wilfer.sis at gmail.com (William Garcia)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 14:57:58 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Proposal GSoC
Message-ID: <y2j991e66d91003311157l4232817bgfb775528f0660d7d@mail.gmail.com>

Greeting,

Just now send the proposal for GSoC, that think of my proposal.

cheers

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Comunidad Universitaria de Software Libre
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Mar 31 15:51:45 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 21:51:45 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Proposal idea
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William Garcia wrote:

>I already have a first draft of my proposal in
>https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AXpOuYbg8051ZGNyM3NyaGZfNzdnZGI5emdi&hl=en

Thanks. The idea is really intriguing.

Here's something I don't quite understand yet: So the model for the
generator is written in a modelling language. Who would need to know
this language? Someone who wants to write a plugin? Or only those that
want to update the generator?

I have to look into this modelling language. My concern is that there's
some special knowledge required to maintain this generator in the
future. What would you suggest for transfer of that knowledge?

bye, Dirk


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From msdark at archlinux.cl  Wed Mar 31 16:34:33 2010
From: msdark at archlinux.cl (=?ISO-8859-1?B?TWF07WFzIEhlcm7hbmRleg==?= Arellano)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 17:34:33 -0300
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Testing with Plugins (Twitter and Facebook status)
Message-ID: <20100331173433.712b6905@archlinux.cl>

Well, I've been documenting and I started making my first tests,
starting with the creation of a plugin, the idea of this is to show a
block in the portal showing the status of Twitter (or any
FriendsTimeline search in specific) and Facebook status.

I know how to use the APIs of both sites, but I can not see how to
create the block .. xD a quick idea for something simple that will
serve to test me?

Thanks and regards


From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Mar 31 17:01:08 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 31 Mar 2010 23:01:08 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Testing with Plugins (Twitter and Facebook
 status)
In-Reply-To: <20100331173433.712b6905@archlinux.cl>
References: <20100331173433.712b6905@archlinux.cl>
Message-ID: <20100331210108.1144381913@smtp.haun-online.de>

Mat?as Hern?ndez Arellano wrote:

>I know how to use the APIs of both sites, but I can not see how to
>create the block .. xD a quick idea for something simple that will
>serve to test me?

You would need to create what we call a PHP block. Effectively, that's a
function with a name starting with phpblock_ (e.g. phpblock_twitter).
Whatever that function returns will then be displayed in the block. You
create the actual block from the Admin's Block editor (note the block
types in the dropdown there).

bye, Dirk

Also see <http://www.geeklog.net/faqman/index.php?op=view&t=12>


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