From tcsp1900 at hotmail.com  Thu Apr  1 01:27:48 2010
From: tcsp1900 at hotmail.com (Tim Patrick)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 01:27:48 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] geeklog-devel Digest, Vol 39, Issue 53
In-Reply-To: <mailman.511.1270061080.11687.geeklog-devel@lists.geeklog.net>
References: <mailman.511.1270061080.11687.geeklog-devel@lists.geeklog.net>
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Hey,

I would like to have community feedback on an extended proposal I have created for the Cross Site Alert system. Please read the entire document and offer your throughts on the Interesting Concept section.

http://docs.google.com/View?id=dgfc479g_36d58qw9hq

- Tim
 		 	   		  
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From wilfer.sis at gmail.com  Thu Apr  1 03:45:53 2010
From: wilfer.sis at gmail.com (William Garcia)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 03:45:53 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Proposal idea
In-Reply-To: <20100331195145.1241498431@smtp.haun-online.de>
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hi,

To write the pluguin need not  known modeling language, only to have basic
knowledge of UML, If  someone plan to upgrade the generator must have good
knowledge of modeling with UML, the generator creates code in the templates,
these are developed using Xpand [1] this language is really easy to have a
few sentences (about 10), necessitating to develop other functions to
perform more specific tasks, these must be developed with Java and this
extensions are included in the generator, but I have developed these methods
(I've needed so far).

Knowledge transfer will be made during development of the generator, while I
am assembling the generator I will document this process and to begin to
build the generator from scratch anyone is interested in the generator will
understand quickly.

>From my experience I can contribute in the development of an excellent
generator and provide support until the appearance of a method in which I am
using obsolete.

cheers,

[1]
http://www.openarchitectureware.org/pub/documentation/4.3.1/html/contents/core_reference.html#xpand_reference_introduction

2010/3/31 Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>

> William Garcia wrote:
>
> >I already have a first draft of my proposal in
> >
> https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0AXpOuYbg8051ZGNyM3NyaGZfNzdnZGI5emdi&hl=en
>
> Thanks. The idea is really intriguing.
>
> Here's something I don't quite understand yet: So the model for the
> generator is written in a modelling language. Who would need to know
> this language? Someone who wants to write a plugin? Or only those that
> want to update the generator?
>
> I have to look into this modelling language. My concern is that there's
> some special knowledge required to maintain this generator in the
> future. What would you suggest for transfer of that knowledge?
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
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From vladvoic at gmail.com  Thu Apr  1 06:36:55 2010
From: vladvoic at gmail.com (Vlad Voicu)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:36:55 +0300
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC Calendar Plugin
Message-ID: <j2m3171d95d1004010336p7025f301kf24c8989bc4e87e4@mail.gmail.com>

Here is my Calendar Plugin proposal for GSoC [1], any feedback will be
appreciated.

[1] https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Aeg-WUGILVoWZGc4NTdiNmZfMjYyZmZwbmY5ZGc&hl=en

Regards,
Vlad


From suprsidr at flashyourweb.com  Thu Apr  1 08:58:46 2010
From: suprsidr at flashyourweb.com (Wayne Patterson)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 07:58:46 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Testing with Plugins (Twitter and Facebook
	status) (Mat?as Hern?ndez Arellano)
Message-ID: <o2u31838b391004010558z785faf35t4f9da3fcd736006@mail.gmail.com>

@see http://www.flashyourweb.com/article.php?story=twitter_block1.1

-Wayne
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From sam at theleathers.net  Thu Apr  1 09:38:02 2010
From: sam at theleathers.net (Samuel Leathers)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 09:38:02 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
Message-ID: <4BB4A1BA.7040004@theleathers.net>

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I wanted to maybe start bouncing ideas around about how to implement
recurring events. I started by taking an ical file exported from my
google calendar to get an idea of how it stores it, thinking that might
be a good way to structure the database to make generation of an ical
file simple. Lets start a dialog about how is best to represent these
events. This is a sample event:

BEGIN:VEVENT
CREATED:20100112T184020Z
LAST-MODIFIED:20100228T063110Z
DTSTAMP:20100228T063110Z
UID:msfeaphkg5p9eedmff4ide7bjo at google.com
SUMMARY:RPTM 120
STATUS:CONFIRMED
RRULE:FREQ=WEEKLY;UNTIL=20100430T193500Z;BYDAY=MO,WE,FR
DTSTART;TZID=America/New_York:20100111T153500
DTEND;TZID=America/New_York:20100111T162500
LOCATION:Hosler 026
SEQUENCE:1
TRANSP:OPAQUE
X-MOZ-GENERATION:1
END:VEVENT

The interesting parts are RRULE, DTSTART and DTEND.

DTSTART and DTEND are the start/end times for the first event. RRULE has
a frequency rule, an optional until rule, and in this case a by day
rule. However; looking at the spec:
http://www.kanzaki.com/docs/ical/rrule.html

it can be minutely, hourly, daily, weekly, monthly and yearly. And each
has it's own set of options.

So how do we encode this in the database? Do we have a column for
frequency, until, period, days, etc...

But what about this scenario:

The first Saturday that follows the first Sunday of the month,
 forever:

  DTSTART;TZID=US-Eastern:19970913T090000
  RRULE:FREQ=MONTHLY;BYDAY=SA;BYMONTHDAY=7,8,9,10,11,12,13

How would you arrange that one in the database?

I think having a bunch of columns for recurring events could get real
ugly. My other thought was what if we mirror the ical structure in the
database like so:

columns: dtstart, dtend, rrule

And then write an ical class with a parser for displaying calendar
events. This could be slow (I don't know), but what if we augment this
ical backend in the database with a cache? Ical already supports a UID
field, so what if we cache calendar recurring events (dtstart, dtend no
rrule) in a cache table that expands recurring events for that month and
year (linked to uid of event it was built from). Then when someone views
a future month, it adds that month to the cache, or a crontab could be
set for off-peak hours to rebuild the cache for the upcoming year. The
cache could also contain "ghost" events for reminders for events. So
when someone has a remind me the day before, rather than parsing for the
event, checking if it's the day before, it queries the cache instead,
sees there is an event reminder linked to event uid of future event,
sends that reminder to all users (with an ical file including the event,
so they can import it directly into their calendar from their e-mail).

Just some thoughts. Wondering what everyone thinks, especially Vlad,
since he's writing a proposal for this plugin.

Sam
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From joe at ThrowingDice.com  Thu Apr  1 10:50:32 2010
From: joe at ThrowingDice.com (Joe Mucchiello)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 10:50:32 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
In-Reply-To: <4BB4A1BA.7040004@theleathers.net>
References: <4BB4A1BA.7040004@theleathers.net>
Message-ID: <0L07006XXD8GI3V0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

At 09:38 AM 4/1/2010, Samuel Leathers wrote:
>Just some thoughts. Wondering what everyone thinks, especially Vlad,
>since he's writing a proposal for this plugin.

Once there was a bounty to fix the calendar plugin and I wrote a lot 
of the fixes requested for the bounty. The patch for Geeklog 1.5.1 or 
1.6.0 (I forget which) is in the download section 
http://www.geeklog.net/filemgmt/index.php?id=933 Feel free to look at 
it and/or steal from it. My personal life interfered with getting 
that beta ship shape and I ended up removing the recurring events 
stuff just to make a release as my life went to hell. The forums also 
have some posts about it.

But I did design it and in the end I felt it required two tables. One 
stored the "event info" and basically looks like the existing table 
with a few extra fields. The recurring data was stored in a text 
field and was basically the vcard recurring info format. The other 
table is an "event instance" table, it too has most of the existing 
fields as well as a parent_id field so you can link it back to the 
original event. When you save a single event, an entry is entered 
into both tables. When you save a recurring event, one entry goes 
into the info table and multiple entries are placed into the instance 
table. You need a configuration parameter to limit how far into the 
future events are added to the instance table. This needs to be 
configurable because some websites work just fine with only 1 year of 
future events visible and some websites needs events 5 years in the 
future visible.

How to make this work? The info table needs the recurring_data field 
to hold the info about when future events are. You also need a 
next_unrealized_instance datetime field. This field is null if all 
instances of the event are in the instance table. If however there 
are instances that exceed the cutoff date, this field contains the 
date of the instance that next exceeds the cutoff. Then you need a 
task in the scheduler to get a list of all events whose 
next_unrealized_instance datetime is greater than the now()+cutoff 
time. For each of these records, you add any missing future instances 
and update the next_unrealized_instance field.

All the logic to build your calendar views would shift focus from the 
current table to the instance table. But this also means that buttons 
like "edit" need to be split out into "edit master event" and "edit 
this instance". Outlook does this with a popup.

Part of the real problem is there is already pseudo-support for 
recurring events in that events can last multiple days. If you have a 
3-day convention annually, you generally aren't going to schedule it 
as a recurring event since the details from year to year are usually 
pretty much different even if the venue stays the same. But I'm sure 
someone will want to see support of attending Day 2 only. On the plus 
side, adding these events to the instance table simplifies the select 
code. Needless to say there are a lot of hidden gotchas to recurring events.


----
Joe Mucchiello
Throwing Dice Games
http://www.throwingdice.com 



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From vladvoic at gmail.com  Thu Apr  1 12:31:12 2010
From: vladvoic at gmail.com (Vlad Voicu)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 19:31:12 +0300
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
In-Reply-To: <4BB4A1BA.7040004@theleathers.net>
References: <4BB4A1BA.7040004@theleathers.net>
Message-ID: <w2m3171d95d1004010931j5f212716y5f84ec88f8b28199@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Samuel Leathers <sam at theleathers.net> wrote:

>
> I think having a bunch of columns for recurring events could get real
> ugly. My other thought was what if we mirror the ical structure in the
> database like so:
>
> columns: dtstart, dtend, rrule

I think this is the right way also.

> And then write an ical class with a parser for displaying calendar
> events. This could be slow (I don't know), but what if we augment this
> ical backend in the database with a cache? Ical already supports a UID
> field, so what if we cache calendar recurring events (dtstart, dtend no
> rrule) in a cache table that expands recurring events for that month and
> year (linked to uid of event it was built from). Then when someone views
> a future month, it adds that month to the cache, or a crontab could be
> set for off-peak hours to rebuild the cache for the upcoming year. The
> cache could also contain "ghost" events for reminders for events.

You can check my application, I suggested a similar solution. Only
generating for
2 years ahead. I also proposed a minimal database structure in my
application and
a solution for exceptions.

I don't think a cronjob is the best approach, but generating when a
user reaches the
end of the half(as I suggested) or the end of pre-generated period
like you suggested.
I found interesting information about this matter here: [1]

> The cache could also contain "ghost" events for reminders for events.
> So when someone has a remind me the day before, rather than parsing for the
> event, checking if it's the day before, it queries the cache instead,
> sees there is an event reminder linked to event uid of future event,
> sends that reminder to all users (with an ical file including the event,
> so they can import it directly into their calendar from their e-mail).

I think that just a field of Remind_me and one of remind_me_value will suffice.
Once a day the function will look in the database for events of tomorrow,
if there are any events marked as remind_me and the remind_me_value is
1 it will send
the emails with the .ics attached. If the user selects remind me one
week before, the
script will look if 7 days ahead of this day is any event that has the
remind_me field true and the
remind_me_value = 7. That is pretty fast I think as you only check 1
day for events maybe 5
times for 5 different type of remind_me_value values. x probably equal
to 3 (remind me a day
before 2 days before, etc) This can be done with a cronjob on a
certain hour of a day.

>
> Just some thoughts. Wondering what everyone thinks, especially Vlad,
> since he's writing a proposal for this plugin.
>

[1] http://www.justatheory.com/computers/databases/postgresql/recurring_events.html

I expect an opinion also,
Regards,
Vlad.


From vladvoic at gmail.com  Thu Apr  1 12:54:39 2010
From: vladvoic at gmail.com (Vlad Voicu)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 19:54:39 +0300
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
In-Reply-To: <w2m3171d95d1004010931j5f212716y5f84ec88f8b28199@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BB4A1BA.7040004@theleathers.net>
	<w2m3171d95d1004010931j5f212716y5f84ec88f8b28199@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <u2i3171d95d1004010954zdf9eabcemfa2557e1e3f3eb95@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 7:31 PM, Vlad Voicu <vladvoic at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Samuel Leathers <sam at theleathers.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> I think having a bunch of columns for recurring events could get real
>> ugly. My other thought was what if we mirror the ical structure in the
>> database like so:
>>
>> columns: dtstart, dtend, rrule
>
> I think this is the right way also.
>

Sorry, I misinterpreted this, I now realize that you wanted to keep
the rrule as a string, not as a table. I suggested a table because it
is easier to treat complex events and exceptions this way. I'll look
deeper in the Ical format for recurring events, but as far as I know,
it doesn't support exceptions from recurrence rules. If we decide we
don't want exceptions, I think using Ical's format is the right way to
do it.

Sorry for the badly formated email above.

Regards,
Vlad.


From aqrowles at gmail.com  Thu Apr  1 13:01:41 2010
From: aqrowles at gmail.com (Anthony Rowles)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:01:41 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
In-Reply-To: <u2i3171d95d1004010954zdf9eabcemfa2557e1e3f3eb95@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BB4A1BA.7040004@theleathers.net>
	<w2m3171d95d1004010931j5f212716y5f84ec88f8b28199@mail.gmail.com>
	<u2i3171d95d1004010954zdf9eabcemfa2557e1e3f3eb95@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <h2w7e64bec31004011001t4bdd2f58tf934a70a9cfa06c5@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Samuel Leathers <sam at theleathers.net> wrote:
> I think having a bunch of columns for recurring events could get real
> ugly. My other thought was what if we mirror the ical structure in the
> database like so:
>
> columns: dtstart, dtend, rrule
>
> And then write an ical class with a parser for displaying calendar
> events. This could be slow (I don't know), but what if we augment this
> ical backend in the database with a cache?

I'm also writing a proposal for the calendar plugin, and I'll get into
this in more detail there, but my design uses this approach for
calculating recurring events - except I plan to do that work in the
client (free scaling!).  It'll almost certainly be faster than having
the server do all the computations, and at the very least the wait
time will occur after the page has loaded, giving the user something
to look at while they wait for the events to populate, instead of
staring at a blank page.

I plan to store recurring events in a separate table, but with one
additional field, a list of "exceptions".  When the client requests
events for a range (say, April 2010), it gets a set of single events
for that range, and a set of recurring events that might fall in that
range (based on dtstart/dtend).  It then generates all instances of
the recurring events that take place within the range it's currently
displaying (in this case, April 2010), and adds those to its event
list.  If the user wants to change one instance of a recurring series
(say, move next week's weekly meeting back one hour because of a
conflict), we convert the event to a "single event", add it to the
non-recurring table, and add the date/time to the list of exceptions
for its parent recurring series.  You just have to maintain a link to
the parent in the database so you can delete the newly spawned "single
events" if the user later wants to delete the entire recurring series.

Here's a really great paper on the topic that describes a flexible way
to write a recurring event parser (what he calls "temporal
expressions"): http://martinfowler.com/apsupp/recurring.pdf.  His
examples are in Java but I think it can be done just fine in
JavaScript.  Using unions/intersections/differences between sets, you
can create really powerful and complex recurrences (every 3rd week in
the summer, etc) fairly easily.

- Tony


From vfuria at gmail.com  Thu Apr  1 13:03:48 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:03:48 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
In-Reply-To: <w2m3171d95d1004010931j5f212716y5f84ec88f8b28199@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BB4A1BA.7040004@theleathers.net>
	<w2m3171d95d1004010931j5f212716y5f84ec88f8b28199@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <x2z8319e2d61004011003j223b792ey2efce5df9c8d5fdc@mail.gmail.com>

Like Joe, I had looked at adding recurring events to Geeklog in the past.
All the research I did indicated that the only efficient way to handle
recurring events to instantiate individual events. At the time I came up
with an idea for representing the events in the database. There would be two
tables, a recurring events table and an events table.

The recurring events table would be similar to the events table, but in
addition would hold information about how the events recur. It would also
contain a "begin" and "end" dates for when individual events had already
been generated. When a query is made to view events, it would check the
recurring events table to see if that date range had been generated for the
recurring events that apply to the query. If the query was outside the date
range, more events to satisfy the query would be generated. (It would be
necessary to somehow represent that all early and/or all late dates had
already been generated).

The events table would contain a foreign key or NULL to the recurring events
table so events can be associated with the "parent" recursion. Also a field
in the event table would indicate if the event was an exception, so changes
could be made to individual events that are part of recursion.

I'm not particularly attached to this implementation, but this entire
discussion on recurring events is a good one to have to better flesh out
design and implementation ideas.

Be careful depending on the iCal standard to define how recursion works in
your implementation. The iCal recursion rules are VERY flexible and fully
implementing them can be crazy difficult (not even Outlook can generate all
the types of recursions that are supported by iCal).

Vlad, I was intrigued by postgresql recurring events solution you found. I'm
not sure an entirely SQL implementation like that would work too well in
Geeklog. Mostly because MySQL (the primarily used database) doesn't have
nearly as efficient SQL functions as postgresql. I can be convinced
otherwise though if that's the route someone wants to go down...

Another difficult part of implementing recurring events is creating a GUI
that is flexible in their creation without being confusing to the user. This
is another problem with trying to implement the full recursion abilities of
the iCal standard.

There are many implementations that will work. But there are even more that
won't scale at all on a large site with lots of recurring events.

I'm looking forward to reviewing proposals for the Calendar plugin.  On a
side note, I can't review google docs proposals from work, so they'll have
to wait til tonight to be looked at (~0300 GMT).

-Vinny

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:31 AM, Vlad Voicu <vladvoic at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Samuel Leathers <sam at theleathers.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I think having a bunch of columns for recurring events could get real
> > ugly. My other thought was what if we mirror the ical structure in the
> > database like so:
> >
> > columns: dtstart, dtend, rrule
>
> I think this is the right way also.
>
> > And then write an ical class with a parser for displaying calendar
> > events. This could be slow (I don't know), but what if we augment this
> > ical backend in the database with a cache? Ical already supports a UID
> > field, so what if we cache calendar recurring events (dtstart, dtend no
> > rrule) in a cache table that expands recurring events for that month and
> > year (linked to uid of event it was built from). Then when someone views
> > a future month, it adds that month to the cache, or a crontab could be
> > set for off-peak hours to rebuild the cache for the upcoming year. The
> > cache could also contain "ghost" events for reminders for events.
>
> You can check my application, I suggested a similar solution. Only
> generating for
> 2 years ahead. I also proposed a minimal database structure in my
> application and
> a solution for exceptions.
>
> I don't think a cronjob is the best approach, but generating when a
> user reaches the
> end of the half(as I suggested) or the end of pre-generated period
> like you suggested.
> I found interesting information about this matter here: [1]
>
> > The cache could also contain "ghost" events for reminders for events.
> > So when someone has a remind me the day before, rather than parsing for
> the
> > event, checking if it's the day before, it queries the cache instead,
> > sees there is an event reminder linked to event uid of future event,
> > sends that reminder to all users (with an ical file including the event,
> > so they can import it directly into their calendar from their e-mail).
>
> I think that just a field of Remind_me and one of remind_me_value will
> suffice.
> Once a day the function will look in the database for events of tomorrow,
> if there are any events marked as remind_me and the remind_me_value is
> 1 it will send
> the emails with the .ics attached. If the user selects remind me one
> week before, the
> script will look if 7 days ahead of this day is any event that has the
> remind_me field true and the
> remind_me_value = 7. That is pretty fast I think as you only check 1
> day for events maybe 5
> times for 5 different type of remind_me_value values. x probably equal
> to 3 (remind me a day
> before 2 days before, etc) This can be done with a cronjob on a
> certain hour of a day.
>
> >
> > Just some thoughts. Wondering what everyone thinks, especially Vlad,
> > since he's writing a proposal for this plugin.
> >
>
> [1]
> http://www.justatheory.com/computers/databases/postgresql/recurring_events.html
>
> I expect an opinion also,
> Regards,
> Vlad.
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Thu Apr  1 13:13:39 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:13:39 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
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On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:54 AM, Vlad Voicu <vladvoic at gmail.com> wrote:

>  Sorry, I misinterpreted this, I now realize that you wanted to keep
> the rrule as a string, not as a table. I suggested a table because it
> is easier to treat complex events and exceptions this way. I'll look
> deeper in the Ical format for recurring events, but as far as I know,
> it doesn't support exceptions from recurrence rules. If we decide we
> don't want exceptions, I think using Ical's format is the right way to
> do it.
>

iCal does support exceptions to recurring events. See
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5545#section-3.8.5, or more specifically
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc5545#section-3.8.5.1.

Section 3.8.5.1 specifically details recurring events. If you look at some
of the examples in 3.8.5.3, you can see how the iCal standard can so some
pretty crazy recursion rules.

-Vinny
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Thu Apr  1 13:15:26 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 11:15:26 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
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Tony,

I like the idea of having the client do the work. But what happens if the
client has JavaScript disabled? Will they be unable to view recurring
events?

-Vinny

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Anthony Rowles <aqrowles at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Samuel Leathers <sam at theleathers.net>
> wrote:
> > I think having a bunch of columns for recurring events could get real
> > ugly. My other thought was what if we mirror the ical structure in the
> > database like so:
> >
> > columns: dtstart, dtend, rrule
> >
> > And then write an ical class with a parser for displaying calendar
> > events. This could be slow (I don't know), but what if we augment this
> > ical backend in the database with a cache?
>
> I'm also writing a proposal for the calendar plugin, and I'll get into
> this in more detail there, but my design uses this approach for
> calculating recurring events - except I plan to do that work in the
> client (free scaling!).  It'll almost certainly be faster than having
> the server do all the computations, and at the very least the wait
> time will occur after the page has loaded, giving the user something
> to look at while they wait for the events to populate, instead of
> staring at a blank page.
>
> I plan to store recurring events in a separate table, but with one
> additional field, a list of "exceptions".  When the client requests
> events for a range (say, April 2010), it gets a set of single events
> for that range, and a set of recurring events that might fall in that
> range (based on dtstart/dtend).  It then generates all instances of
> the recurring events that take place within the range it's currently
> displaying (in this case, April 2010), and adds those to its event
> list.  If the user wants to change one instance of a recurring series
> (say, move next week's weekly meeting back one hour because of a
> conflict), we convert the event to a "single event", add it to the
> non-recurring table, and add the date/time to the list of exceptions
> for its parent recurring series.  You just have to maintain a link to
> the parent in the database so you can delete the newly spawned "single
> events" if the user later wants to delete the entire recurring series.
>
> Here's a really great paper on the topic that describes a flexible way
> to write a recurring event parser (what he calls "temporal
> expressions"): http://martinfowler.com/apsupp/recurring.pdf.  His
> examples are in Java but I think it can be done just fine in
> JavaScript.  Using unions/intersections/differences between sets, you
> can create really powerful and complex recurrences (every 3rd week in
> the summer, etc) fairly easily.
>
> - Tony
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From aqrowles at gmail.com  Thu Apr  1 13:33:09 2010
From: aqrowles at gmail.com (Anthony Rowles)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 13:33:09 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
In-Reply-To: <s2t8319e2d61004011015kbcec4e4an58a1c3c7b310c494@mail.gmail.com>
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It's an important policy decision, for certain.  According to W3C, >95% of
users browse with JavaScript enabled, and this percentage rises every year.
Still, we should probably support graceful degradation - the parser would
have to be written twice in PHP and JS, but it shouldn't be too difficult to
port just a few classes, and it's functionality anyone with knowledge of PHP
and JS could add later, if I don't have time during the summer.  I'd
implement the fallback solution using temporary tables - this prevents the
generated events from interfering with the client-side solution, and since
the number of JavaScript-disabled users is likely to be extremely low, the
lack of caching shouldn't be an issue.  A user with JS disabled is going to
have a less responsive application, but a functioning one.

- Tony

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:15 PM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:

> Tony,
>
> I like the idea of having the client do the work. But what happens if the
> client has JavaScript disabled? Will they be unable to view recurring
> events?
>
> -Vinny
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Anthony Rowles <aqrowles at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Samuel Leathers <sam at theleathers.net>
>> wrote:
>> > I think having a bunch of columns for recurring events could get real
>> > ugly. My other thought was what if we mirror the ical structure in the
>> > database like so:
>> >
>> > columns: dtstart, dtend, rrule
>> >
>> > And then write an ical class with a parser for displaying calendar
>> > events. This could be slow (I don't know), but what if we augment this
>> > ical backend in the database with a cache?
>>
>> I'm also writing a proposal for the calendar plugin, and I'll get into
>> this in more detail there, but my design uses this approach for
>> calculating recurring events - except I plan to do that work in the
>> client (free scaling!).  It'll almost certainly be faster than having
>> the server do all the computations, and at the very least the wait
>> time will occur after the page has loaded, giving the user something
>> to look at while they wait for the events to populate, instead of
>> staring at a blank page.
>>
>> I plan to store recurring events in a separate table, but with one
>> additional field, a list of "exceptions".  When the client requests
>> events for a range (say, April 2010), it gets a set of single events
>> for that range, and a set of recurring events that might fall in that
>> range (based on dtstart/dtend).  It then generates all instances of
>> the recurring events that take place within the range it's currently
>> displaying (in this case, April 2010), and adds those to its event
>> list.  If the user wants to change one instance of a recurring series
>> (say, move next week's weekly meeting back one hour because of a
>> conflict), we convert the event to a "single event", add it to the
>> non-recurring table, and add the date/time to the list of exceptions
>> for its parent recurring series.  You just have to maintain a link to
>> the parent in the database so you can delete the newly spawned "single
>> events" if the user later wants to delete the entire recurring series.
>>
>> Here's a really great paper on the topic that describes a flexible way
>> to write a recurring event parser (what he calls "temporal
>> expressions"): http://martinfowler.com/apsupp/recurring.pdf.  His
>> examples are in Java but I think it can be done just fine in
>> JavaScript.  Using unions/intersections/differences between sets, you
>> can create really powerful and complex recurrences (every 3rd week in
>> the summer, etc) fairly easily.
>>
>> - Tony
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>
>
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From joe at ThrowingDice.com  Thu Apr  1 13:52:10 2010
From: joe at ThrowingDice.com (Joe Mucchiello)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 13:52:10 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
In-Reply-To: <s2t8319e2d61004011015kbcec4e4an58a1c3c7b310c494@mail.gmail.com>
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At 01:15 PM 4/1/2010, Vincent Furia wrote:
>Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db2b0a6fce690483300366
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>
>Tony,
>
>I like the idea of having the client do the work. But what happens 
>if the client has JavaScript disabled? Will they be unable to view 
>recurring events?
>
>-Vinny

The problem with this is long lasting events and the calendar side 
block. If a recurring event is weekly on Fridays and is create 
January 2001, will that event have to be sent to the browser for 
every page hit if the calendar side block is visible? How do you 
filter events so you aren't sending every recurring event in the 
database to the client? (Looking at one of my yahoo groups, there is 
a weekly event that was created in 2004 that we still receive event 
notices for so don't think 10 year old events are impossible.)

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From aqrowles at gmail.com  Thu Apr  1 14:27:33 2010
From: aqrowles at gmail.com (Anthony Rowles)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 14:27:33 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
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If a user is downloading a calendar side block for the current month, and
there's a 10 year old weekly meeting in the database, the user would either
need to download one copy of the recurring event or four instances of the
event that have been populated into the database.  Calculating the
recurrence on the fly results in a page size decrease.

The problem I think you're talking about isn't really with long-lasting
events, but with infrequently recurring events.  There are definitely use
cases where this could be a issue - for example, a calendar of all employee
birthdays for a large company.  A monthly-view side block would have to
receive every employee's birthday in order to check if any occur during that
month.  When I wrote some calendar software for a government contractor that
had to deal with a lot of quarterly and annual reports - what I did was flag
events with the months they could possibly occur in, and use that as an
additional filter.  This limits your recurrence possibilities somewhat
("every 42 days" would be impossible to implement, for example), but it's
not a bad trade-off.

- Tony

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Joe Mucchiello <joe at throwingdice.com> wrote:

> At 01:15 PM 4/1/2010, Vincent Furia wrote:
>
>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6db2b0a6fce690483300366
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>>
>> Tony,
>>
>> I like the idea of having the client do the work. But what happens if the
>> client has JavaScript disabled? Will they be unable to view recurring
>> events?
>>
>> -Vinny
>>
>
> The problem with this is long lasting events and the calendar side block.
> If a recurring event is weekly on Fridays and is create January 2001, will
> that event have to be sent to the browser for every page hit if the calendar
> side block is visible? How do you filter events so you aren't sending every
> recurring event in the database to the client? (Looking at one of my yahoo
> groups, there is a weekly event that was created in 2004 that we still
> receive event notices for so don't think 10 year old events are impossible.)
>
>
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> Throwing Dice Games
> http://www.throwingdice.com
>
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From sam at theleathers.net  Thu Apr  1 14:42:35 2010
From: sam at theleathers.net (Samuel Leathers)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:42:35 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
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One big question is how much should this be able to scale to? Lets say
the calendar contains 100,000 recurring events, of which, 10 are
actually recurring in the view period the user is looking at. If it's
parsed client side, you would have to send all 100,000 recurring events
to the client, so the client could determine if any are being shown.

Whereas, if it's parsed/cached server side, you would only send those 10
events, plus whatever non-recurring events happen for that time period
the user is viewing.

That being said, this is an intriguing and interesting idea, granted
scaling is limited, and I hadn't even thought of having it parsed client
side.

Sam



On 4/1/10 2:27 PM, Anthony Rowles wrote:
> If a user is downloading a calendar side block for the current month,
> and there's a 10 year old weekly meeting in the database, the user would
> either need to download one copy of the recurring event or four
> instances of the event that have been populated into the database. 
> Calculating the recurrence on the fly results in a page size decrease.
> 
> The problem I think you're talking about isn't really with long-lasting
> events, but with infrequently recurring events.  There are definitely
> use cases where this could be a issue - for example, a calendar of all
> employee birthdays for a large company.  A monthly-view side block would
> have to receive every employee's birthday in order to check if any occur
> during that month.  When I wrote some calendar software for a government
> contractor that had to deal with a lot of quarterly and annual reports -
> what I did was flag events with the months they could possibly occur in,
> and use that as an additional filter.  This limits your recurrence
> possibilities somewhat ("every 42 days" would be impossible to
> implement, for example), but it's not a bad trade-off.
> 
> - Tony
> 
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From joe at ThrowingDice.com  Thu Apr  1 14:57:22 2010
From: joe at ThrowingDice.com (Joe Mucchiello)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:57:22 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
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At 02:27 PM 4/1/2010, Anthony Rowles wrote:
>Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64cd4fa0e32b00483310549
>Content-Transfer-Encoding:
>
>If a user is downloading a calendar side block for the current 
>month, and there's a 10 year old weekly meeting in the database, the 
>user would either need to download one copy of the recurring event 
>or four instances of the event that have been populated into the 
>database.  Calculating the recurrence on the fly results in a page 
>size decrease.
>
>The problem I think you're talking about isn't really with 
>long-lasting events, but with infrequently recurring events.  There 
>are definitely use cases where this could be a issue - for example, 
>a calendar of all employee birthdays for a large company.  A 
>monthly-view side block would have to receive every employee's 
>birthday in order to check if any occur during that month.  When I 
>wrote some calendar software for a government contractor that had to 
>deal with a lot of quarterly and annual reports - what I did was 
>flag events with the months they could possibly occur in, and use 
>that as an additional filter.  This limits your recurrence 
>possibilities somewhat ("every 42 days" would be impossible to 
>implement, for example), but it's not a bad trade-off.

This is why if you precalculate it all once (when the item is saved) 
then all access to a set of events is not only faster but the code is 
SIMPLE to maintain. The every 42 days event works just fine if it is 
pre-calculated once. Then any time someone selects a range of events 
(May 2011 for example) if there is an event in that month that 
matches the calculation cost during the select is just one more row 
as opposed to a lot of date manipulation.

A complex morass of exceptions that has to run on both the client and 
on the server is not something the core devs should have to deal with 
4 years from now when perhaps you have moved on. If all the code is 
in one place and only ever has to run while the user creating the 
event is saving the event, it makes the code easier to maintain going 
forward. I think the agile programming folks call this the DRY 
princicple: Don't Repeat Yourself.


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From joe at ThrowingDice.com  Thu Apr  1 15:03:21 2010
From: joe at ThrowingDice.com (Joe Mucchiello)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:03:21 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
In-Reply-To: <x2z8319e2d61004011003j223b792ey2efce5df9c8d5fdc@mail.gmail.com>
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At 01:03 PM 4/1/2010, Vincent Furia wrote:
>Be careful depending on the iCal standard to define how recursion 
>works in your implementation. The iCal recursion rules are VERY 
>flexible and fully implementing them can be crazy difficult (not 
>even Outlook can generate all the types of recursions that are 
>supported by iCal).

The value of attempting to code to the iCal standard is you don't 
have to implement it completely. You only have to implement as much 
as your GUI can handle. Besides probably 20% of the standard handles 
80% of the common use cases. So you can start out with a subset of 
the iCal standard that does what is minimally necessary (as well as 
possible in the GSoC timeframe) and have another/more project(s) to 
handle more of the standard at a future date. This is the place for 
lots of Javascript in the recurring code: as part of the GUI to 
handle all the types of recurring events. For the calendar display, 
it is better to handle it with AJAX and perhaps some fetch ahead if 
you want to be fancy.


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From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Thu Apr  1 14:49:36 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 14:49:36 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834BC@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>

Would this not be a perfect candidate for Ajax?
Only request and return the specific data you need to parse the return
feed on the client side and populate your calendar.  This way you're not
returning 100,000 records, still doing client side parsing AND this
still lets us have the routines written for javascript-crippled browsing
clients.

Likewise, if there are 50 birthdays on one day in a large organization,
you're not going to show all 50.  You might show the fist 5 and then
include a "more" link that can be ajax enabled that will show the next 5
or 10 or whatever the setting is specified.

Just a thought.  Ignore me if I'm being dumb.

-randy



> -----Original Message-----
> From: Samuel Leathers [mailto:sam at theleathers.net]
> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 2:43 PM
> To: Geeklog Development
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
> 
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> One big question is how much should this be able to scale to? Lets say
> the calendar contains 100,000 recurring events, of which, 10 are
> actually recurring in the view period the user is looking at. If it's
> parsed client side, you would have to send all 100,000 recurring
events
> to the client, so the client could determine if any are being shown.
> 
> Whereas, if it's parsed/cached server side, you would only send those
> 10
> events, plus whatever non-recurring events happen for that time period
> the user is viewing.
> 
> That being said, this is an intriguing and interesting idea, granted
> scaling is limited, and I hadn't even thought of having it parsed
> client
> side.
> 
> Sam
> 
> 
> 
> On 4/1/10 2:27 PM, Anthony Rowles wrote:
> > If a user is downloading a calendar side block for the current
month,
> > and there's a 10 year old weekly meeting in the database, the user
> would
> > either need to download one copy of the recurring event or four
> > instances of the event that have been populated into the database.
> > Calculating the recurrence on the fly results in a page size
> decrease.
> >
> > The problem I think you're talking about isn't really with long-
> lasting
> > events, but with infrequently recurring events.  There are
definitely
> > use cases where this could be a issue - for example, a calendar of
> all
> > employee birthdays for a large company.  A monthly-view side block
> would
> > have to receive every employee's birthday in order to check if any
> occur
> > during that month.  When I wrote some calendar software for a
> government
> > contractor that had to deal with a lot of quarterly and annual
> reports -
> > what I did was flag events with the months they could possibly occur
> in,
> > and use that as an additional filter.  This limits your recurrence
> > possibilities somewhat ("every 42 days" would be impossible to
> > implement, for example), but it's not a bad trade-off.
> >
> > - Tony
> >
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From sam at theleathers.net  Thu Apr  1 15:11:37 2010
From: sam at theleathers.net (Samuel Leathers)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:11:37 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
In-Reply-To: <u2i3171d95d1004010954zdf9eabcemfa2557e1e3f3eb95@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BB4A1BA.7040004@theleathers.net>	<w2m3171d95d1004010931j5f212716y5f84ec88f8b28199@mail.gmail.com>
	<u2i3171d95d1004010954zdf9eabcemfa2557e1e3f3eb95@mail.gmail.com>
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On 4/1/10 12:54 PM, Vlad Voicu wrote:

> Sorry, I misinterpreted this, I now realize that you wanted to keep
> the rrule as a string, not as a table. I suggested a table because it
> is easier to treat complex events and exceptions this way. I'll look
> deeper in the Ical format for recurring events, but as far as I know,
> it doesn't support exceptions from recurrence rules. If we decide we
> don't want exceptions, I think using Ical's format is the right way to
> do it.

I played with this in thunderbird (lightning), and from what I can tell,
for exceptions it stores the same uid as the original event, it creating
a new event identical to the first.

So say every wednesday, recurring event at Sparks School

However, Wednesday, the 24th it's been moved to Sparks Park,

the original recurring event would remain the same, and the new event
would drop the rrule, change the location, keep the same uid as the old
event, change dtstart and dtend to this events date/time, and then add
another rule called recurrence-id that appears to be the same as this
events dtstart.

Sam
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From aqrowles at gmail.com  Thu Apr  1 15:12:31 2010
From: aqrowles at gmail.com (Anthony Rowles)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 15:12:31 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
In-Reply-To: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834BC@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834BC@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
Message-ID: <s2z7e64bec31004011212le8347f33ia3cf73103735cfd1@mail.gmail.com>

Randy, I think the issue is that if you're supporting complicated recurrence
rules, the calculation to "return the specific data you need" can be
resource-intensive and probably won't scale if it's done server-side.  Using
Joe's method, you only do this calculation once (when the event is saved),
while trading off with more space in your database (as you have to populate
events into the future).  With what I've proposed, you'd do this calculation
every time, but the calculation is done server-side so it scales, while
avoiding the space cost of populating lots of events into the future.  Joe's
method does have the advantage of making support for JS-disabled clients
much simpler, as well.

- Tony

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 2:49 PM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca>wrote:

> Would this not be a perfect candidate for Ajax?
> Only request and return the specific data you need to parse the return
> feed on the client side and populate your calendar.  This way you're not
> returning 100,000 records, still doing client side parsing AND this
> still lets us have the routines written for javascript-crippled browsing
> clients.
>
> Likewise, if there are 50 birthdays on one day in a large organization,
> you're not going to show all 50.  You might show the fist 5 and then
> include a "more" link that can be ajax enabled that will show the next 5
> or 10 or whatever the setting is specified.
>
> Just a thought.  Ignore me if I'm being dumb.
>
> -randy
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Samuel Leathers [mailto:sam at theleathers.net]
> > Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 2:43 PM
> > To: Geeklog Development
> > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
> >
> > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> > Hash: SHA1
> >
> > One big question is how much should this be able to scale to? Lets say
> > the calendar contains 100,000 recurring events, of which, 10 are
> > actually recurring in the view period the user is looking at. If it's
> > parsed client side, you would have to send all 100,000 recurring
> events
> > to the client, so the client could determine if any are being shown.
> >
> > Whereas, if it's parsed/cached server side, you would only send those
> > 10
> > events, plus whatever non-recurring events happen for that time period
> > the user is viewing.
> >
> > That being said, this is an intriguing and interesting idea, granted
> > scaling is limited, and I hadn't even thought of having it parsed
> > client
> > side.
> >
> > Sam
> >
> >
> >
> > On 4/1/10 2:27 PM, Anthony Rowles wrote:
> > > If a user is downloading a calendar side block for the current
> month,
> > > and there's a 10 year old weekly meeting in the database, the user
> > would
> > > either need to download one copy of the recurring event or four
> > > instances of the event that have been populated into the database.
> > > Calculating the recurrence on the fly results in a page size
> > decrease.
> > >
> > > The problem I think you're talking about isn't really with long-
> > lasting
> > > events, but with infrequently recurring events.  There are
> definitely
> > > use cases where this could be a issue - for example, a calendar of
> > all
> > > employee birthdays for a large company.  A monthly-view side block
> > would
> > > have to receive every employee's birthday in order to check if any
> > occur
> > > during that month.  When I wrote some calendar software for a
> > government
> > > contractor that had to deal with a lot of quarterly and annual
> > reports -
> > > what I did was flag events with the months they could possibly occur
> > in,
> > > and use that as an additional filter.  This limits your recurrence
> > > possibilities somewhat ("every 42 days" would be impossible to
> > > implement, for example), but it's not a bad trade-off.
> > >
> > > - Tony
> > >
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From vladvoic at gmail.com  Thu Apr  1 17:11:35 2010
From: vladvoic at gmail.com (Vlad Voicu)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 00:11:35 +0300
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
In-Reply-To: <s2z7e64bec31004011212le8347f33ia3cf73103735cfd1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834BC@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
	<s2z7e64bec31004011212le8347f33ia3cf73103735cfd1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <t2x3171d95d1004011411j9f0254cbl7d8ec749d0f739f@mail.gmail.com>

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Anthony Rowles <aqrowles at gmail.com> wrote:
> With what I've proposed, you'd do this calculation
> every time, but the calculation is done server-side so it scales, while
> avoiding the space cost of populating lots of events into the future.? Joe's
> method does have the advantage of making support for JS-disabled clients
> much simpler, as well.
>

I was wondering how are you going to implement reminders for recurring events.


Regards,
Vlad.


From nsiire at gmail.com  Thu Apr  1 17:41:42 2010
From: nsiire at gmail.com (Agana-Nsiire Agana)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 21:41:42 +0000
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Hello Hello!
Message-ID: <z2ma68046891004011441l87aaee4bzff16b0135b0998b1@mail.gmail.com>

Hello everyone. Agana Agana-Nsiire, Ghana. I am looking into the
source code to see what it's like in geeklog.
so far, i'm liking the calendar project, but i am also considering a
few others. no time, so I should be decided soon. maybe a new idea.
I have never even heard of GSOC before this year, so this should be interesting.

I study zoology and conservation science in college, have never taken
any programming courses; really, up till now, i code just for fun
(since 2006), but i have a lot of growing still to do. I see this as a
golden chance to do that. this is important to me as i would like to
explore computing solutions for zoological and environmental research
in Ghana. Hopefully build my career around that. On my mind now, for
example, is an electronic field guide for birds that will run on
mobiles, so birders like myself can get a positive ID in seconds.
Currently the page flipping can cost valuable sightings! Maybe I'll
call it 'Wings'.

I love php, vb.net. learning python.
I love tennis, soccer, old books, birding (you should try it in Ghana).
I will soon submit my proposal, but for now just saying Hi.

Regards, Agana.

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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 14:27:33 -0400
> From: Anthony Rowles <aqrowles at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
> To: Geeklog Development <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
> Message-ID:
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>
> If a user is downloading a calendar side block for the current month, and
> there's a 10 year old weekly meeting in the database, the user would either
> need to download one copy of the recurring event or four instances of the
> event that have been populated into the database.  Calculating the
> recurrence on the fly results in a page size decrease.
>
> The problem I think you're talking about isn't really with long-lasting
> events, but with infrequently recurring events.  There are definitely use
> cases where this could be a issue - for example, a calendar of all employee
> birthdays for a large company.  A monthly-view side block would have to
> receive every employee's birthday in order to check if any occur during that
> month.  When I wrote some calendar software for a government contractor that
> had to deal with a lot of quarterly and annual reports - what I did was flag
> events with the months they could possibly occur in, and use that as an
> additional filter.  This limits your recurrence possibilities somewhat
> ("every 42 days" would be impossible to implement, for example), but it's
> not a bad trade-off.
>
> - Tony
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Joe Mucchiello <joe at throwingdice.com> wrote:
>
>> At 01:15 PM 4/1/2010, Vincent Furia wrote:
>>
>>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
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>>>
>>> Tony,
>>>
>>> I like the idea of having the client do the work. But what happens if the
>>> client has JavaScript disabled? Will they be unable to view recurring
>>> events?
>>>
>>> -Vinny
>>>
>>
>> The problem with this is long lasting events and the calendar side block.
>> If a recurring event is weekly on Fridays and is create January 2001, will
>> that event have to be sent to the browser for every page hit if the
>> calendar
>> side block is visible? How do you filter events so you aren't sending
>> every
>> recurring event in the database to the client? (Looking at one of my yahoo
>> groups, there is a weekly event that was created in 2004 that we still
>> receive event notices for so don't think 10 year old events are
>> impossible.)
>>
>>
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>> http://www.throwingdice.com
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> From: Samuel Leathers <sam at theleathers.net>
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
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> One big question is how much should this be able to scale to? Lets say
> the calendar contains 100,000 recurring events, of which, 10 are
> actually recurring in the view period the user is looking at. If it's
> parsed client side, you would have to send all 100,000 recurring events
> to the client, so the client could determine if any are being shown.
>
> Whereas, if it's parsed/cached server side, you would only send those 10
> events, plus whatever non-recurring events happen for that time period
> the user is viewing.
>
> That being said, this is an intriguing and interesting idea, granted
> scaling is limited, and I hadn't even thought of having it parsed client
> side.
>
> Sam
>
>
>
> On 4/1/10 2:27 PM, Anthony Rowles wrote:
>> If a user is downloading a calendar side block for the current month,
>> and there's a 10 year old weekly meeting in the database, the user would
>> either need to download one copy of the recurring event or four
>> instances of the event that have been populated into the database.
>> Calculating the recurrence on the fly results in a page size decrease.
>>
>> The problem I think you're talking about isn't really with long-lasting
>> events, but with infrequently recurring events.  There are definitely
>> use cases where this could be a issue - for example, a calendar of all
>> employee birthdays for a large company.  A monthly-view side block would
>> have to receive every employee's birthday in order to check if any occur
>> during that month.  When I wrote some calendar software for a government
>> contractor that had to deal with a lot of quarterly and annual reports -
>> what I did was flag events with the months they could possibly occur in,
>> and use that as an additional filter.  This limits your recurrence
>> possibilities somewhat ("every 42 days" would be impossible to
>> implement, for example), but it's not a bad trade-off.
>>
>> - Tony
>>
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> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 14:57:22 -0400
> From: Joe Mucchiello <joe at ThrowingDice.com>
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
> To: Geeklog Development <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
> Message-ID: <0L070025WONN1XN0 at mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
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> At 02:27 PM 4/1/2010, Anthony Rowles wrote:
>>Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64cd4fa0e32b00483310549
>>Content-Transfer-Encoding:
>>
>>If a user is downloading a calendar side block for the current
>>month, and there's a 10 year old weekly meeting in the database, the
>>user would either need to download one copy of the recurring event
>>or four instances of the event that have been populated into the
>>database.  Calculating the recurrence on the fly results in a page
>>size decrease.
>>
>>The problem I think you're talking about isn't really with
>>long-lasting events, but with infrequently recurring events.  There
>>are definitely use cases where this could be a issue - for example,
>>a calendar of all employee birthdays for a large company.  A
>>monthly-view side block would have to receive every employee's
>>birthday in order to check if any occur during that month.  When I
>>wrote some calendar software for a government contractor that had to
>>deal with a lot of quarterly and annual reports - what I did was
>>flag events with the months they could possibly occur in, and use
>>that as an additional filter.  This limits your recurrence
>>possibilities somewhat ("every 42 days" would be impossible to
>>implement, for example), but it's not a bad trade-off.
>
> This is why if you precalculate it all once (when the item is saved)
> then all access to a set of events is not only faster but the code is
> SIMPLE to maintain. The every 42 days event works just fine if it is
> pre-calculated once. Then any time someone selects a range of events
> (May 2011 for example) if there is an event in that month that
> matches the calculation cost during the select is just one more row
> as opposed to a lot of date manipulation.
>
> A complex morass of exceptions that has to run on both the client and
> on the server is not something the core devs should have to deal with
> 4 years from now when perhaps you have moved on. If all the code is
> in one place and only ever has to run while the user creating the
> event is saving the event, it makes the code easier to maintain going
> forward. I think the agile programming folks call this the DRY
> princicple: Don't Repeat Yourself.
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 15:03:21 -0400
> From: Joe Mucchiello <joe at ThrowingDice.com>
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
> To: Geeklog Development <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
> Message-ID: <0L07008DEOXMG0D0 at mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
>
> At 01:03 PM 4/1/2010, Vincent Furia wrote:
>>Be careful depending on the iCal standard to define how recursion
>>works in your implementation. The iCal recursion rules are VERY
>>flexible and fully implementing them can be crazy difficult (not
>>even Outlook can generate all the types of recursions that are
>>supported by iCal).
>
> The value of attempting to code to the iCal standard is you don't
> have to implement it completely. You only have to implement as much
> as your GUI can handle. Besides probably 20% of the standard handles
> 80% of the common use cases. So you can start out with a subset of
> the iCal standard that does what is minimally necessary (as well as
> possible in the GSoC timeframe) and have another/more project(s) to
> handle more of the standard at a future date. This is the place for
> lots of Javascript in the recurring code: as part of the GUI to
> handle all the types of recurring events. For the calendar display,
> it is better to handle it with AJAX and perhaps some fetch ahead if
> you want to be fancy.
>
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 14:49:36 -0400
> From: "Randy Kolenko" <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca>
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
> To: "Geeklog Development" <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
> Message-ID:
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> Would this not be a perfect candidate for Ajax?
> Only request and return the specific data you need to parse the return
> feed on the client side and populate your calendar.  This way you're not
> returning 100,000 records, still doing client side parsing AND this
> still lets us have the routines written for javascript-crippled browsing
> clients.
>
> Likewise, if there are 50 birthdays on one day in a large organization,
> you're not going to show all 50.  You might show the fist 5 and then
> include a "more" link that can be ajax enabled that will show the next 5
> or 10 or whatever the setting is specified.
>
> Just a thought.  Ignore me if I'm being dumb.
>
> -randy
>
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Samuel Leathers [mailto:sam at theleathers.net]
>> Sent: Thursday, April 01, 2010 2:43 PM
>> To: Geeklog Development
>> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
>>
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>> One big question is how much should this be able to scale to? Lets say
>> the calendar contains 100,000 recurring events, of which, 10 are
>> actually recurring in the view period the user is looking at. If it's
>> parsed client side, you would have to send all 100,000 recurring
> events
>> to the client, so the client could determine if any are being shown.
>>
>> Whereas, if it's parsed/cached server side, you would only send those
>> 10
>> events, plus whatever non-recurring events happen for that time period
>> the user is viewing.
>>
>> That being said, this is an intriguing and interesting idea, granted
>> scaling is limited, and I hadn't even thought of having it parsed
>> client
>> side.
>>
>> Sam
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4/1/10 2:27 PM, Anthony Rowles wrote:
>> > If a user is downloading a calendar side block for the current
> month,
>> > and there's a 10 year old weekly meeting in the database, the user
>> would
>> > either need to download one copy of the recurring event or four
>> > instances of the event that have been populated into the database.
>> > Calculating the recurrence on the fly results in a page size
>> decrease.
>> >
>> > The problem I think you're talking about isn't really with long-
>> lasting
>> > events, but with infrequently recurring events.  There are
> definitely
>> > use cases where this could be a issue - for example, a calendar of
>> all
>> > employee birthdays for a large company.  A monthly-view side block
>> would
>> > have to receive every employee's birthday in order to check if any
>> occur
>> > during that month.  When I wrote some calendar software for a
>> government
>> > contractor that had to deal with a lot of quarterly and annual
>> reports -
>> > what I did was flag events with the months they could possibly occur
>> in,
>> > and use that as an additional filter.  This limits your recurrence
>> > possibilities somewhat ("every 42 days" would be impossible to
>> > implement, for example), but it's not a bad trade-off.
>> >
>> > - Tony
>> >
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From aqrowles at gmail.com  Thu Apr  1 18:31:01 2010
From: aqrowles at gmail.com (Anthony Rowles)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 18:31:01 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
In-Reply-To: <t2x3171d95d1004011411j9f0254cbl7d8ec749d0f739f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834BC@nex-pluto.nextide.ca> 
	<s2z7e64bec31004011212le8347f33ia3cf73103735cfd1@mail.gmail.com> 
	<t2x3171d95d1004011411j9f0254cbl7d8ec749d0f739f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <y2s7e64bec31004011531g79c87336kc244c25b54475dcd@mail.gmail.com>

Great question - of course it depends on the type of reminder.  For a
notification on login, etc. (user-initiated), it's not bad, but client-side
processing makes something like automated emailed reminders pretty
difficult.  If you had to do it, you could probably do it with a post-back
that flags events that need reminding out to some number of days, or
maintains a "next occurance" field, which works if the user logs in
semi-regularly, but it seems like a bit of a hack to me.  If emailed
reminders are necessary, a different design is probably superior.

- Tony

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Vlad Voicu <vladvoic at gmail.com> wrote:

> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Anthony Rowles <aqrowles at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > With what I've proposed, you'd do this calculation
> > every time, but the calculation is done server-side so it scales, while
> > avoiding the space cost of populating lots of events into the future.
> Joe's
> > method does have the advantage of making support for JS-disabled clients
> > much simpler, as well.
> >
>
> I was wondering how are you going to implement reminders for recurring
> events.
>
>
> Regards,
> Vlad.
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Thu Apr  1 18:44:09 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 16:44:09 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Calendar Plugin - Recurring Events
In-Reply-To: <y2s7e64bec31004011531g79c87336kc244c25b54475dcd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3834BC@nex-pluto.nextide.ca> 
	<s2z7e64bec31004011212le8347f33ia3cf73103735cfd1@mail.gmail.com> 
	<t2x3171d95d1004011411j9f0254cbl7d8ec749d0f739f@mail.gmail.com> 
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Message-ID: <z2t8319e2d61004011544lc11d5713me0a9fc71d5d949ad@mail.gmail.com>

Reminders are something we'd like to have, at the very least, the option to
add in the future. There is also a "notification" GSoC project to develop a
notification system. Once both the Calendars are tied in would seem a
natural fit.

-Vinny

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 4:31 PM, Anthony Rowles <aqrowles at gmail.com> wrote:

> Great question - of course it depends on the type of reminder.  For a
> notification on login, etc. (user-initiated), it's not bad, but client-side
> processing makes something like automated emailed reminders pretty
> difficult.  If you had to do it, you could probably do it with a post-back
> that flags events that need reminding out to some number of days, or
> maintains a "next occurance" field, which works if the user logs in
> semi-regularly, but it seems like a bit of a hack to me.  If emailed
> reminders are necessary, a different design is probably superior.
>
> - Tony
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 5:11 PM, Vlad Voicu <vladvoic at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Anthony Rowles <aqrowles at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > With what I've proposed, you'd do this calculation
>> > every time, but the calculation is done server-side so it scales, while
>> > avoiding the space cost of populating lots of events into the future.
>> Joe's
>> > method does have the advantage of making support for JS-disabled clients
>> > much simpler, as well.
>> >
>>
>> I was wondering how are you going to implement reminders for recurring
>> events.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Vlad.
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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From joe at ThrowingDice.com  Thu Apr  1 22:57:33 2010
From: joe at ThrowingDice.com (Joe Mucchiello)
Date: Thu, 01 Apr 2010 22:57:33 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 is on
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References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F11229F@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
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Replying to myself from 6 weeks ago. This was the thread where I 
proposed the changes to gl_groups to support user defined groups for 
use by the socnet plugin.

At 12:10 AM 2/17/2010, Joe Mucchiello wrote:
>I would offer to write the patch but I don't have a good track 
>record with getting my patches accepted into core.

That lack of acceptance is mostly my fault because, like this patch, 
I usually submit them just as core is upgrading and my patches end up 
being behind by a version. With all the enthusiasm for socnet I'm 
hoping this one will be the exception.

Regardless, I created the patch. It wasn't that hard. Since I have no 
mercurial access, I've created a feature request in the bug tracker 
and attached a zip file contain the just under 30 files that needed 
to be updated. I've tested it out as well as I could without a socnet 
plugin to test against. 
http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1106 The feature 
request has all the details needed to apply the patch to stock 1.6.1, 
upgrade, and play around with it.

For review, there is a new field on gl_groups called grp_owner. When 
that field is zero, the group is considered a system group. When the 
field is non-zero, that uid owns the group. What it means to own a 
group is not detailed anywhere in core. All that this patch does to 
core is ensure that all core access to the gl_groups table includes 
the where clause 'grp_owner = 0'. There are some issues with $_GROUPS 
as detailed in the feature request but they are not an issue for 
core. They are an issue for other plugins.

   Joe


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From sushilm.iitb at gmail.com  Fri Apr  2 00:44:12 2010
From: sushilm.iitb at gmail.com (sushil meena)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 10:14:12 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Fwd: doubt regarding bug number 965
In-Reply-To: <n2i4fe56b3a1004012141saac104b4g9108cd3f0d4f3b94@mail.gmail.com>
References: <n2i4fe56b3a1004012141saac104b4g9108cd3f0d4f3b94@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p2t4fe56b3a1004012144o493e3c51u8824f3d843e6ecf4@mail.gmail.com>

hey,

Can anyone please tell me how to reproduce  bug number
965<http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=965>. I have tried
a lot of documentation. But could not get to this. What I
have is geeklog installed from mercurial repositories and default
professional theme. Please help me in this regard.

thanking you in anticipations


-- 
sushil kumar meena,
second year undergraduate,
computer science and engineering department,
IIT BOMBAY
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Fri Apr  2 01:04:54 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 23:04:54 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog Development Virtual Machine
Message-ID: <t2u8319e2d61004012204kd43d60e9y544ae82d48260018@mail.gmail.com>

I've created a Virtual Machine for Geeklog development so that any user
(looks toward GSoC students) who wants to get up and running quickly with
Geeklog can do so. Just down the virtual machine at:

http://project.geeklog.net/attachments/Geeklog_Devel.i686-1.0.0.vmx.tar.bz2

Then you can use VMWare (including the free "player") or Virtual Box (GPL)
to run the Geeklog Devel Virtual Machine. When you initially log on as the
"geeklog" user (password: "geeklog"), it will automatically clone the
Mercurial repository to get the latest Geeklog. It also populates the
database for you with all the defaults.

Enjoy. Please let me know how it works for you.

Thanks,
Vinny
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Fri Apr  2 01:39:51 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Thu, 1 Apr 2010 23:39:51 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 is on
In-Reply-To: <0L0800HIGAW99VQ0@mta5.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F11229F@nex-pluto.nextide.ca> 
	<0KXY009MP59JSA20@mta2.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
	<8319e2d61002161455l49213d86ned2c9afc1bc697c1@mail.gmail.com> 
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Message-ID: <z2i8319e2d61004012239k93b6e7bn7cea5324e59091ec@mail.gmail.com>

Joe,

Only had a few minutes tonight to take a look. Have a couple comments
though:

1.  1.7.0 introduces Postgresql support, we'll need SQL updates for it as
well.
2.  Since your using the column grp_owner in where clauses everytime you
select from the group table, I think we need an index on it. I think the
UNIQUE INDEX in MySQL also acts as sorting index, but I don't think (but I'm
not sure) that a MSSQL CONSTRAINT acts as an index.

I'll have more time to look at it over the weekend.

-Vinny

P.S. You may be a bit late for 1.7.0. Dirk indicated a feature freeze
earlier this week and is aiming for a Beta 1.7.0 over the weekend.

On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 8:57 PM, Joe Mucchiello <joe at throwingdice.com> wrote:

> Replying to myself from 6 weeks ago. This was the thread where I proposed
> the changes to gl_groups to support user defined groups for use by the
> socnet plugin.
>
>
> At 12:10 AM 2/17/2010, Joe Mucchiello wrote:
>
>> I would offer to write the patch but I don't have a good track record with
>> getting my patches accepted into core.
>>
>
> That lack of acceptance is mostly my fault because, like this patch, I
> usually submit them just as core is upgrading and my patches end up being
> behind by a version. With all the enthusiasm for socnet I'm hoping this one
> will be the exception.
>
> Regardless, I created the patch. It wasn't that hard. Since I have no
> mercurial access, I've created a feature request in the bug tracker and
> attached a zip file contain the just under 30 files that needed to be
> updated. I've tested it out as well as I could without a socnet plugin to
> test against. http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1106 The
> feature request has all the details needed to apply the patch to stock
> 1.6.1, upgrade, and play around with it.
>
> For review, there is a new field on gl_groups called grp_owner. When that
> field is zero, the group is considered a system group. When the field is
> non-zero, that uid owns the group. What it means to own a group is not
> detailed anywhere in core. All that this patch does to core is ensure that
> all core access to the gl_groups table includes the where clause 'grp_owner
> = 0'. There are some issues with $_GROUPS as detailed in the feature request
> but they are not an issue for core. They are an issue for other plugins.
>
>  Joe
>
>
>
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From joe at ThrowingDice.com  Fri Apr  2 02:00:25 2010
From: joe at ThrowingDice.com (Joe Mucchiello)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 02:00:25 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 is on
In-Reply-To: <z2i8319e2d61004012239k93b6e7bn7cea5324e59091ec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F11229F@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
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At 01:39 AM 4/2/2010, Vincent Furia wrote:
>Only had a few minutes tonight to take a look. Have a couple comments though:
>
>1.  1.7.0 introduces Postgresql support, we'll need SQL updates for 
>it as well.

Yeah, I know. I can read the docs and make something up. But someone 
more familiar with pgsql should write that. If I had been targeting 
1.7.0 directly, I'd have created the files at a minimum. I just 
figured 1.7.0 is a moving target and a 3-way merge with mercurial 
should be easier than it use to be with CVS. Someone just needs to 
checkout from the 1.6.1 commit. Merge my changes and then try to push 
the changes back up. (Although, I admit, for me this is just my 
understanding of the theory behind a DVCS.)

>2.  Since your using the column grp_owner in where clauses everytime 
>you select from the group table, I think we need an index on it. I 
>think the UNIQUE INDEX in MySQL also acts as sorting index, but I 
>don't think (but I'm not sure) that a MSSQL CONSTRAINT acts as an index.

Again, I just mirrored what I saw in the mssql files. If what you say 
is true there are potentially no indexes (other than primary key 
indexes) on the mssql install as I see no place where a CREATE INDEX 
statement is executed. Unfortunately I don't have anywhere to run 
mssql to test it out. Ultimately, I wasn't worried about indexes on 
the database because they can always be tweaked ad hoc in a worst 
case scenario. Besides, Geeklog is lousy about indexes. If you've 
ever upgraded a database continuously from an early version you might 
end up with duplicate indexes on various tables.

>I'll have more time to look at it over the weekend.

Thanks.

>P.S. You may be a bit late for 1.7.0. Dirk indicated a feature 
>freeze earlier this week and is aiming for a Beta 1.7.0 over the weekend.

I always miss the feature freeze emails. Looking back he didn't 
actually call it a feature freeze. Just a beta this weekend. I sent 
him an email about this yesterday that he didn't answer. So I can 
still hope this time I made it under the wire. Technically I suppose 
this only needs to be part of 1.7.1hg so that GSoC devs can use it.

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From msdark at archlinux.cl  Fri Apr  2 02:57:20 2010
From: msdark at archlinux.cl (=?ISO-8859-1?B?TWF07WFzIEhlcm7hbmRleg==?= Arellano)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 03:57:20 -0300
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Idea fro Issue 0001068
Message-ID: <20100402035720.015db6b4@archlinux.cl>

http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1068


I have and idea to do that..

write a function in lib-custom.php using jsmin-php.

The idea is that the function CUSTOM_compressJS obtained from a
specific directory (the path to the JS file as a parameter of the
function) each of the files. This function returns the JavaScript code
archives.

Now the question: How should I write that function?

Here's an example:

function CUSTOM_compressJS ( $jsdir ){
    / ** Files are read from the directory and are stored in an array
* / require_once(jsmin.php);
    $param = '';
    for ( $i=0; $i < count($jsFiles); $i++ ){
        $param += file_get_contents($jsFiles[i]);
    }
    return JSMin::minify($param);
}
is that correct? Or is better write a plugin to do that?... But I think
that kind of function should be defined within the system


From dirk at haun-online.de  Fri Apr  2 03:14:55 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 09:14:55 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog Development Virtual Machine
In-Reply-To: <t2u8319e2d61004012204kd43d60e9y544ae82d48260018@mail.gmail.com>
References: <t2u8319e2d61004012204kd43d60e9y544ae82d48260018@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100402071455.472201710@smtp.haun-online.de>

Vincent Furia wrote:

>I've created a Virtual Machine for Geeklog development so that any user
>(looks toward GSoC students) who wants to get up and running quickly with
>Geeklog can do so. Just down the virtual machine at:
>
>http://project.geeklog.net/attachments/Geeklog_Devel.i686-1.0.0.vmx.tar.bz2

It's actually ...tar.gz, not .bz2 :)

Thanks, Vinny!

bye, Dirk


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Fri Apr  2 03:11:33 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 09:11:33 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Fwd: doubt regarding bug number 965
In-Reply-To: <p2t4fe56b3a1004012144o493e3c51u8824f3d843e6ecf4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <n2i4fe56b3a1004012141saac104b4g9108cd3f0d4f3b94@mail.gmail.com>
	<p2t4fe56b3a1004012144o493e3c51u8824f3d843e6ecf4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100402071133.268904238@smtp.haun-online.de>

sushil meena wrote:

>Can anyone please tell me how to reproduce  bug number
>965<http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=965>.

I've attached a screenshot. Does that help?

If not, please explain in more detail what your problem is.

bye, Dirk


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From tuxcanfly at gmail.com  Fri Apr  2 04:35:25 2010
From: tuxcanfly at gmail.com (Jakh Daven)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 14:05:25 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 is on
In-Reply-To: <0L0800JZRJCSPWQ0@mta1.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
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	<8319e2d61002161455l49213d86ned2c9afc1bc697c1@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Joe,

I am a would-be GSoC student participant and I am interested in taking up
the Socnet project. I will go through your patch, test it during the weekend
and try to figure out how it fits in with socnet. I have glanced through the
documentation in the feature request and I would like to add a few points on
how Socnet will handle this in my view. From the feature request page:

Code displaying this (such as SOC_getGroupDropdown) would need to handle how
> to display the group names intelligently.
>

Will the group names in the drop down be unique?. If yes, we will need to
get the user name from the uid and attach it to the group name (since group
names are not unique). For example the drop down would contain the following
items:

   - Joe Mucchiello's Friends
   - Jakh Daven's Co-Workers
   - Jakh Daven's Friends

Is this correct? We will need to handle user name+group name clashes
somehow.

As you said, even if it does not make it into 1.7.0, it will be very useful
to the gsoc devs, Thanks for the patch.

Cheers,
Jakh


 On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Joe Mucchiello <joe at throwingdice.com>wrote:

> At 01:39 AM 4/2/2010, Vincent Furia wrote:
>
>> Only had a few minutes tonight to take a look. Have a couple comments
>> though:
>>
>> 1.  1.7.0 introduces Postgresql support, we'll need SQL updates for it as
>> well.
>>
>
> Yeah, I know. I can read the docs and make something up. But someone more
> familiar with pgsql should write that. If I had been targeting 1.7.0
> directly, I'd have created the files at a minimum. I just figured 1.7.0 is a
> moving target and a 3-way merge with mercurial should be easier than it use
> to be with CVS. Someone just needs to checkout from the 1.6.1 commit. Merge
> my changes and then try to push the changes back up. (Although, I admit, for
> me this is just my understanding of the theory behind a DVCS.)
>
>
>  2.  Since your using the column grp_owner in where clauses everytime you
>> select from the group table, I think we need an index on it. I think the
>> UNIQUE INDEX in MySQL also acts as sorting index, but I don't think (but I'm
>> not sure) that a MSSQL CONSTRAINT acts as an index.
>>
>
> Again, I just mirrored what I saw in the mssql files. If what you say is
> true there are potentially no indexes (other than primary key indexes) on
> the mssql install as I see no place where a CREATE INDEX statement is
> executed. Unfortunately I don't have anywhere to run mssql to test it out.
> Ultimately, I wasn't worried about indexes on the database because they can
> always be tweaked ad hoc in a worst case scenario. Besides, Geeklog is lousy
> about indexes. If you've ever upgraded a database continuously from an early
> version you might end up with duplicate indexes on various tables.
>
>
>  I'll have more time to look at it over the weekend.
>>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>  P.S. You may be a bit late for 1.7.0. Dirk indicated a feature freeze
>> earlier this week and is aiming for a Beta 1.7.0 over the weekend.
>>
>
> I always miss the feature freeze emails. Looking back he didn't actually
> call it a feature freeze. Just a beta this weekend. I sent him an email
> about this yesterday that he didn't answer. So I can still hope this time I
> made it under the wire. Technically I suppose this only needs to be part of
> 1.7.1hg so that GSoC devs can use it.
>
>
> ----
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> Throwing Dice Games
> http://www.throwingdice.com
>
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From joe at ThrowingDice.com  Fri Apr  2 06:24:37 2010
From: joe at ThrowingDice.com (Joe Mucchiello)
Date: Fri, 02 Apr 2010 06:24:37 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 is on
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That scenario should not come up. Groups are not reciprocal and they 
are not necessarily public. A user who wants to set the group 
permission of a socnet object should only see his personal groups in 
the drop down. Just because you've added me to one of the group lists 
you want to maintain doesn't mean I can see that group. The socnet 
plugin will need to figure out how to differentiate between "Jakh's 
Private List of People He Sends Joke Links To" and "The New Jersey 
PHP User Group". In the first case, the list is only used by Jakh to 
create Links and share them with Jakh's friends. The people on the 
list see the links but cannot examine the list since it's private. 
The second list is obviously supposed to be public and every member 
of that list should be able to set permissions of an object to 
include that list.

This is why the core code stays away from user owned groups. The 
context of what the user owned groups mean is not understood by core. 
It is only understood by the socnet plugin. In my original proposal 
there were several kinds of groups and rules for inviting people into 
public groups and approval systems for groups and how reciprocal 
friendship works, and so on. None of that is in the patch. The patch 
contains only what is minimally sufficient to allow all of that stuff 
to be written as part of a plugin. Someone still has to come up with 
all those rules and determine how they will be enforced and how they 
will be conveyed to the user via the browser. None of that is core's business.

As the feature request in the bug tracker explains, there is a 
downside to this. Currently there is a global in Geeklog $_GROUPS. It 
contains the list of all groups the currently logged on user is a 
member of. It is used by SEC_inGroup to determine if the current user 
is a member of a group. It is also commonly used in SQL statements of 
the form: "WHERE group_id in (" . explode(',', $_GROUPS) . ')'; to 
select a set of objects to which the current user has permission to 
view. That all is unchanged. The problem is the dropdown box created 
by SEC_getGroupDropdown. This function also attempts to use the 
$_GROUPS array to create a list of <option> tags for a <select> 
block. The problem is that this is not the right way to go about it. 
Just because I am in your friend list doesn't mean I should be able 
to create objects visible to all your friends or any of the other 
friend lists I'm on.

So the simple solution is to force SEC_getGroupDropdown into 
Administration only duty. It only returns system groups. If you need 
a list of groups that should appear in a dropdown list with the 
socnet plugin's approval, the socnet plugin will need to provide a 
function that does that. My guess is there will be a gl_socgroup 
table in the database. At the moment I assume it would just contain 
grp_id and grp_type fields but I could see other fields being added 
as the socnet plugin needs control data for its groups.

At 04:35 AM 4/2/2010, Jakh Daven wrote:
>Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636426fe35b843d04833cdc40
>Content-Transfer-Encoding:
>
>Hi Joe,
>
>I am a would-be GSoC student participant and I am interested in 
>taking up the Socnet project. I will go through your patch, test it 
>during the weekend and try to figure out how it fits in with socnet. 
>I have glanced through the documentation in the feature request and 
>I would like to add a few points on how Socnet will handle this in 
>my view. From the feature request page:
>
>Code displaying this (such as SOC_getGroupDropdown) would need to 
>handle how to display the group names intelligently.
>
>
>Will the group names in the drop down be unique?. If yes, we will 
>need to get the user name from the uid and attach it to the group 
>name (since group names are not unique). For example the drop down 
>would contain the following items:
>    * Joe Mucchiello's Friends
>    * Jakh Daven's Co-Workers
>    * Jakh Daven's Friends
>Is this correct? We will need to handle user name+group name clashes somehow.
>
>As you said, even if it does not make it into 1.7.0, it will be very 
>useful to the gsoc devs, Thanks for the patch.
>
>Cheers,
>Jakh
>
>
>On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Joe Mucchiello 
><<mailto:joe at throwingdice.com>joe at throwingdice.com> wrote:
>At 01:39 AM 4/2/2010, Vincent Furia wrote:
>Only had a few minutes tonight to take a look. Have a couple comments though:
>
>1.  1.7.0 introduces Postgresql support, we'll need SQL updates for 
>it as well.
>
>
>Yeah, I know. I can read the docs and make something up. But someone 
>more familiar with pgsql should write that. If I had been targeting 
>1.7.0 directly, I'd have created the files at a minimum. I just 
>figured 1.7.0 is a moving target and a 3-way merge with mercurial 
>should be easier than it use to be with CVS. Someone just needs to 
>checkout from the 1.6.1 commit. Merge my changes and then try to 
>push the changes back up. (Although, I admit, for me this is just my 
>understanding of the theory behind a DVCS.)
>
>
>2.  Since your using the column grp_owner in where clauses everytime 
>you select from the group table, I think we need an index on it. I 
>think the UNIQUE INDEX in MySQL also acts as sorting index, but I 
>don't think (but I'm not sure) that a MSSQL CONSTRAINT acts as an index.
>
>
>Again, I just mirrored what I saw in the mssql files. If what you 
>say is true there are potentially no indexes (other than primary key 
>indexes) on the mssql install as I see no place where a CREATE INDEX 
>statement is executed. Unfortunately I don't have anywhere to run 
>mssql to test it out. Ultimately, I wasn't worried about indexes on 
>the database because they can always be tweaked ad hoc in a worst 
>case scenario. Besides, Geeklog is lousy about indexes. If you've 
>ever upgraded a database continuously from an early version you 
>might end up with duplicate indexes on various tables.
>
>
>I'll have more time to look at it over the weekend.
>
>
>Thanks.
>
>
>P.S. You may be a bit late for 1.7.0. Dirk indicated a feature 
>freeze earlier this week and is aiming for a Beta 1.7.0 over the weekend.
>
>
>I always miss the feature freeze emails. Looking back he didn't 
>actually call it a feature freeze. Just a beta this weekend. I sent 
>him an email about this yesterday that he didn't answer. So I can 
>still hope this time I made it under the wire. Technically I suppose 
>this only needs to be part of 1.7.1hg so that GSoC devs can use it.
>
>
>----
>Joe Mucchiello
>Throwing Dice Games
><http://www.throwingdice.com>http://www.throwingdice.com
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Fri Apr  2 06:43:03 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 04:43:03 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog Development Virtual Machine
In-Reply-To: <20100402071455.472201710@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <t2u8319e2d61004012204kd43d60e9y544ae82d48260018@mail.gmail.com> 
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Corrected Link:

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:14 AM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:

> http://project.geeklog.net/attachments/Geeklog_Devel.i686-1.0.0.vmx.tar.gz
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From kinggoddard at gmail.com  Fri Apr  2 12:13:29 2010
From: kinggoddard at gmail.com (Ryein)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 09:13:29 -0700
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog Development Virtual Machine
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Cool, didn't know about that feature.

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 3:43 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
> Corrected Link:
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 1:14 AM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
>>
>> http://project.geeklog.net/attachments/Geeklog_Devel.i686-1.0.0.vmx.tar.gz
>
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Fri Apr  2 16:22:18 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 14:22:18 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC: Core Notification
Message-ID: <k2g8319e2d61004021322l31f5861awd4ca830ccdeceb6c@mail.gmail.com>

I'm going to summarize what we're looking for in the "Core Notification
Support" GSoC project. I think the wiki page is leading people to the wrong
idea about what we're looking for in this project. I'll try to update the
wiki page to make it more clear this weekend.

For a specific example of what we're looking for, check out the the forum on
geeklog.net <http://www.geeklog.net/forum>. From there you can subscribe to
an entire Forum or a specific topic. Once subscribed, you can remove your
subscriptions from a central area that is well organized. You also have the
ability to configure how frequently you receive notifications in the Forum's
user settings.

What we want to see with the "Core Notification Support" project is that
idea generalized to support the entire site, including plugins. In this
manner you can register to be informed whenever a new story is posted (or
one in a specific topic), you can subscribe to a story and get notification
if its updated or comments are added, etc. Once you have created these
subscriptions you should be able to modify them in one location. You should
be able to adjust how you receive the notification (daily, per event, or
once until you visit the site again).

This implies some subdivisions of this project:

1. Notification Subscription. A user needs to be able to subscribe to
certain events (e.g. new comment, new story, update, etc). An API needs to
be created to support this.

2. Notification Indication. When an event occurs (e.g. a new story posting,
a new comment left, an error occurs, etc), the thing generating the event
needs an API to let the Core Notifier [1] know that the event occurred.

3. Event Handling. The Core Notifier, once it get an indication an event
occurred, needs to figure out a who needs to be notified and how they want
to be notified (e.g. when a story is created, it should send an immediate
email to those subscribed to "all stories" and to the topic it belongs to).

4. Sending Notifications. At a minimum this is sending email notifications
[2]. It'd be nice to see a pluggable architecture that allowed additional or
alternative notification methods to exist. Some ideas are SMS notifications,
notifications in an RSS feed, on-line notifications (similar to facebook
notifications while on the site), etc.

I hope this clarifies the requirements on the wiki page. Again I'll try to
update that this weekend. If you have questions, please let me know. For
those who already submitted proposals, I'm working on reviews.

-Vinny


[1] Core Notifier is a horrible name, please feel free to come up with
something better. :)
[2] A nice to haves for email notifications is a site wide speed-limit for
sending emails. Many Hosts limit the number of emails sent per hour.
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Fri Apr  2 17:43:20 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 23:43:20 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC: Anyone waiting for feedback?
Message-ID: <20100402214320.1476150212@smtp.haun-online.de>

Just checking: Is anyone still waiting for feedback on a proposal
(either sent to us or sent through the webapp)?

I just found a case where I accidentally posted a private comment
instead of a public one two days ago and wanted to make sure there
aren't any more of you waiting for feedback.

Thanks for the proposals, btw. Most of what I saw was pretty good already.

bye, Dirk


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From wojtek.szkutnik at gmail.com  Fri Apr  2 18:03:13 2010
From: wojtek.szkutnik at gmail.com (Wojtek Szkutnik)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 00:03:13 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC: Core Notification
In-Reply-To: <k2g8319e2d61004021322l31f5861awd4ca830ccdeceb6c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <k2g8319e2d61004021322l31f5861awd4ca830ccdeceb6c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <k2j2b0fd5c41004021503m36d5ba2ck5f33507d680d060b@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Vincent,

I'm interested in the "Core Notification Support" GSoC project. I've been
hanging on the geeklog IRC channel and playing with the CMS itself for some
time now.
I have lots of experience in OOP in PHP, Python, C++, C, Java, blah blah
blah, won the Google Highly Open Participation Contest (
http://code.google.com/opensource/ghop/2007-8/grandprize.html under
SilverStripe), and did lots of projects that I will include in my formal
gsoc personal summary ;-)

I took a brief look at the Konstantin's draft from 2008(?)
http://docs.google.com/View?docid=dd4t2984_0cf3526cd
I don't know if I should just submit a draft via the gsoc app before sending
a final proposal or write an e-mail so I decided to let you know about my
ideas via e-mail:

*1. The event triggering system*
It will be working like:
*$Event->trigger('eventName', $args)      (another way would be
$Event->eventName($args) , shorter and nicer but harder to understand for
the developer ;-) )*
where $args obviously contain additional info

I don't think event types should be limited to a pre-defined list, I have a
cute idea about registering the event types in a dynamic way
(*$Event->trigger('eventName',
$args) *first checks if eventName is already registered, if not - it
registers the event on a list first (we need the list to let the users
define their subscriptions and manage the events). This way, there would be
no need to define the events in any other place.

Namespaces and wildcards could be easily implemented as well with a proper
naming convention. What I can't see, is the need to use multiple listeners
as described in Konstantin's GDoc - one event processor would work better in
my opinion with eventName patterns as arguments, am I missing something?

*2. Notification Manager*
Because of possible performance issues, the best way to implement the
notification manager would be pushing the triggered events into a queue, and
have a separate notification manager process the successive events.  The
frequency could be easily adjusted to let the site owners choose between
performance, speed and system resource use.
When the notification manager processes the queue, it just checks it against
a separate subscriptions list (subscribers caching would significantly
increase performance), another queue could be created for e-mail
notifications.

*3. Sending Notifications*
There is no need to limit the notifications to e-mail. I could write a
universal solution to support as many notification types as needed (adding a
new type would be just adding a proper method to the notification manager,
nothing hard to code). I was thinking about e-mail notifications (instant /
digest), RSS feeds, IM and SMS messages, maybe Twitter messages?

These are just a few thoughts, nothing final. Please let me know what you
think about the first two points. A potential drawback of the dynamic event
registering would be the de-centralisation of the event specifics.

Best Regards,
Wojtek Szkutnik
Jagiellonian University, Krakow, Poland
http://wojtekszkutnik.com


On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:22 PM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm going to summarize what we're looking for in the "Core Notification
> Support" GSoC project. I think the wiki page is leading people to the wrong
> idea about what we're looking for in this project. I'll try to update the
> wiki page to make it more clear this weekend.
>
> For a specific example of what we're looking for, check out the the forum
> on geeklog.net <http://www.geeklog.net/forum>. From there you can
> subscribe to an entire Forum or a specific topic. Once subscribed, you can
> remove your subscriptions from a central area that is well organized. You
> also have the ability to configure how frequently you receive notifications
> in the Forum's user settings.
>
> What we want to see with the "Core Notification Support" project is that
> idea generalized to support the entire site, including plugins. In this
> manner you can register to be informed whenever a new story is posted (or
> one in a specific topic), you can subscribe to a story and get notification
> if its updated or comments are added, etc. Once you have created these
> subscriptions you should be able to modify them in one location. You should
> be able to adjust how you receive the notification (daily, per event, or
> once until you visit the site again).
>
> This implies some subdivisions of this project:
>
> 1. Notification Subscription. A user needs to be able to subscribe to
> certain events (e.g. new comment, new story, update, etc). An API needs to
> be created to support this.
>
> 2. Notification Indication. When an event occurs (e.g. a new story posting,
> a new comment left, an error occurs, etc), the thing generating the event
> needs an API to let the Core Notifier [1] know that the event occurred.
>
> 3. Event Handling. The Core Notifier, once it get an indication an event
> occurred, needs to figure out a who needs to be notified and how they want
> to be notified (e.g. when a story is created, it should send an immediate
> email to those subscribed to "all stories" and to the topic it belongs to).
>
> 4. Sending Notifications. At a minimum this is sending email notifications
> [2]. It'd be nice to see a pluggable architecture that allowed additional or
> alternative notification methods to exist. Some ideas are SMS notifications,
> notifications in an RSS feed, on-line notifications (similar to facebook
> notifications while on the site), etc.
>
> I hope this clarifies the requirements on the wiki page. Again I'll try to
> update that this weekend. If you have questions, please let me know. For
> those who already submitted proposals, I'm working on reviews.
>
> -Vinny
>
>
> [1] Core Notifier is a horrible name, please feel free to come up with
> something better. :)
> [2] A nice to haves for email notifications is a site wide speed-limit for
> sending emails. Many Hosts limit the number of emails sent per hour.
>
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From sushilm.iitb at gmail.com  Sat Apr  3 04:34:40 2010
From: sushilm.iitb at gmail.com (sushil meena)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 14:04:40 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Doubt regarding bug number 838
Message-ID: <t2y4fe56b3a1004030134w4db48a27mc961d26b3430c8d3@mail.gmail.com>

Hey,
I am trying to introduce the feature request
http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=838 . What I have done is
that the view of public_html/admin/topic.php is in the same manner as that
of public_html/admin/block.php or user.php or story.php.   Means the topics
are now in column view. But now the problem I am facing is that what value
should I give to the default_filter in $query_arr. I dont have any idea what
the default filter should be. (naming convention is almost same as
block.php).

Also what should be the view of topic.php when $_CONF['sortmethod'] is set
to alpha?
What I plan is to give the new column look for $_CONF['sortmethod'] =
'sortnum'   and previous menu-type view  $_CONF['sortmethod'] = 'alpha'.

please help me in this regard,
thanking you in anticipation

-- 
sushil kumar meena,
second year undergraduate,
computer science and engineering department,
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From joe at ThrowingDice.com  Sat Apr  3 11:34:54 2010
From: joe at ThrowingDice.com (Joe Mucchiello)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:34:54 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Doubt regarding bug number 838
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At 04:34 AM 4/3/2010, sushil meena wrote:
>Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e64c26648bbec7048350f705
>Content-Transfer-Encoding:
>
>Hey,
>I am trying to introduce the feature request 
><http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=838>http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=838 
>. What I have done is that the view of public_html/admin/topic.php 
>is in the same manner as that of public_html/admin/block.php or 
>user.php or story.php.   Means the topics are now in column view. 
>But now the problem I am facing is that what value should I give to 
>the default_filter in $query_arr. I dont have any idea what the 
>default filter should be. (naming convention is almost same as block.php).

It can be empty.

>Also what should be the view of topic.php when $_CONF['sortmethod'] 
>is set to alpha?

Just suppress the sort column when sortmethod is alpha. For example, 
this is the block code:

     // writing the list
     $header_arr = array(      # display 'text' and use table field 'field'
         array('text' => $LANG_ADMIN['edit'], 'field' => 'edit', 
'sort' => false),
         array('text' => $LANG21[65], 'field' => 'blockorder', 'sort' => true),
         array('text' => $LANG21[46], 'field' => 'move', 'sort' => false),
         array('text' => $LANG_ADMIN['title'], 'field' => 'title', 
'sort' => true),
         array('text' => $LANG_ADMIN['type'], 'field' => 'type', 
'sort' => true),
         array('text' => $LANG_ADMIN['topic'], 'field' => 'tid', 
'sort' => true),
         array('text' => $LANG_ADMIN['enabled'], 'field' => 
'is_enabled', 'sort' => true)
     );

Change it to

     // writing the list
     $header_arr = array();      # display 'text' and use table field 'field'
     $header_arr[] = array('text' => $LANG_ADMIN['edit'], 'field' => 
'edit', 'sort' => false),
     if ($_CONF['sortmethod'] == 'sortnum') {
         $header_arr[] = array('text' => $LANG21[65], 'field' => 
'blockorder', 'sort' => false),
     }
     $header_arr[] = array('text' => $LANG21[46], 'field' => 'move', 
'sort' => false),
     $header_arr[] = array('text' => $LANG_ADMIN['title'], 'field' => 
'title', 'sort' => false),
     $header_arr[] = array('text' => $LANG_ADMIN['type'], 'field' => 
'type', 'sort' => false),
     $header_arr[] = array('text' => $LANG_ADMIN['topic'], 'field' => 
'tid', 'sort' => false),
     $header_arr[] = array('text' => $LANG_ADMIN['enabled'], 'field' 
=> 'is_enabled', 'sort' => false)

Notice none of the fields are sortable. Also, adding "topic type" 
field would be good. In it you note whether this topic is the archive 
topic or the default topic.

Don't forget to put the icon in the list. It might look cool.

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From tuxcanfly at gmail.com  Sat Apr  3 12:03:57 2010
From: tuxcanfly at gmail.com (Jakh Daven)
Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 21:33:57 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 is on
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Hi Joe,

Thanks for the detailed reply. However, the same argument is valid for
public groups isn't it? We have a unique constraint on (grp_owner,
grp_name). So nothing stops both you and me from creating two public groups
with the same name, "The New Jersey PHP User Group", for example. Socnet
still has to differentiate between the two groups when showing them to a
member of both the groups.

Other than that, I have upgraded to 1.6.1.1 and have been using it. IMHO we
can have an option for the admin to set the group owner when
creating/editing a group. Of course Socnet will set the user who creates a
group as the group owner, but the admin should be able to change the owner
by editing the group.

Will keep you posted as I delve deeper into the changes :)

Cheers,
Jakh


On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 3:54 PM, Joe Mucchiello <joe at throwingdice.com> wrote:

> That scenario should not come up. Groups are not reciprocal and they are
> not necessarily public. A user who wants to set the group permission of a
> socnet object should only see his personal groups in the drop down. Just
> because you've added me to one of the group lists you want to maintain
> doesn't mean I can see that group. The socnet plugin will need to figure out
> how to differentiate between "Jakh's Private List of People He Sends Joke
> Links To" and "The New Jersey PHP User Group". In the first case, the list
> is only used by Jakh to create Links and share them with Jakh's friends. The
> people on the list see the links but cannot examine the list since it's
> private. The second list is obviously supposed to be public and every member
> of that list should be able to set permissions of an object to include that
> list.
>
> This is why the core code stays away from user owned groups. The context of
> what the user owned groups mean is not understood by core. It is only
> understood by the socnet plugin. In my original proposal there were several
> kinds of groups and rules for inviting people into public groups and
> approval systems for groups and how reciprocal friendship works, and so on.
> None of that is in the patch. The patch contains only what is minimally
> sufficient to allow all of that stuff to be written as part of a plugin.
> Someone still has to come up with all those rules and determine how they
> will be enforced and how they will be conveyed to the user via the browser.
> None of that is core's business.
>
> As the feature request in the bug tracker explains, there is a downside to
> this. Currently there is a global in Geeklog $_GROUPS. It contains the list
> of all groups the currently logged on user is a member of. It is used by
> SEC_inGroup to determine if the current user is a member of a group. It is
> also commonly used in SQL statements of the form: "WHERE group_id in (" .
> explode(',', $_GROUPS) . ')'; to select a set of objects to which the
> current user has permission to view. That all is unchanged. The problem is
> the dropdown box created by SEC_getGroupDropdown. This function also
> attempts to use the $_GROUPS array to create a list of <option> tags for a
> <select> block. The problem is that this is not the right way to go about
> it. Just because I am in your friend list doesn't mean I should be able to
> create objects visible to all your friends or any of the other friend lists
> I'm on.
>
> So the simple solution is to force SEC_getGroupDropdown into Administration
> only duty. It only returns system groups. If you need a list of groups that
> should appear in a dropdown list with the socnet plugin's approval, the
> socnet plugin will need to provide a function that does that. My guess is
> there will be a gl_socgroup table in the database. At the moment I assume it
> would just contain grp_id and grp_type fields but I could see other fields
> being added as the socnet plugin needs control data for its groups.
>
> At 04:35 AM 4/2/2010, Jakh Daven wrote:
>
>> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001636426fe35b843d04833cdc40
>> Content-Transfer-Encoding:
>>
>>
>> Hi Joe,
>>
>> I am a would-be GSoC student participant and I am interested in taking up
>> the Socnet project. I will go through your patch, test it during the weekend
>> and try to figure out how it fits in with socnet. I have glanced through the
>> documentation in the feature request and I would like to add a few points on
>> how Socnet will handle this in my view. From the feature request page:
>>
>> Code displaying this (such as SOC_getGroupDropdown) would need to handle
>> how to display the group names intelligently.
>>
>>
>> Will the group names in the drop down be unique?. If yes, we will need to
>> get the user name from the uid and attach it to the group name (since group
>> names are not unique). For example the drop down would contain the following
>> items:
>>   * Joe Mucchiello's Friends
>>   * Jakh Daven's Co-Workers
>>   * Jakh Daven's Friends
>> Is this correct? We will need to handle user name+group name clashes
>> somehow.
>>
>> As you said, even if it does not make it into 1.7.0, it will be very
>> useful to the gsoc devs, Thanks for the patch.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jakh
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 11:30 AM, Joe Mucchiello <<mailto:
>> joe at throwingdice.com>joe at throwingdice.com> wrote:
>> At 01:39 AM 4/2/2010, Vincent Furia wrote:
>> Only had a few minutes tonight to take a look. Have a couple comments
>> though:
>>
>> 1.  1.7.0 introduces Postgresql support, we'll need SQL updates for it as
>> well.
>>
>>
>> Yeah, I know. I can read the docs and make something up. But someone more
>> familiar with pgsql should write that. If I had been targeting 1.7.0
>> directly, I'd have created the files at a minimum. I just figured 1.7.0 is a
>> moving target and a 3-way merge with mercurial should be easier than it use
>> to be with CVS. Someone just needs to checkout from the 1.6.1 commit. Merge
>> my changes and then try to push the changes back up. (Although, I admit, for
>> me this is just my understanding of the theory behind a DVCS.)
>>
>>
>> 2.  Since your using the column grp_owner in where clauses everytime you
>> select from the group table, I think we need an index on it. I think the
>> UNIQUE INDEX in MySQL also acts as sorting index, but I don't think (but I'm
>> not sure) that a MSSQL CONSTRAINT acts as an index.
>>
>>
>> Again, I just mirrored what I saw in the mssql files. If what you say is
>> true there are potentially no indexes (other than primary key indexes) on
>> the mssql install as I see no place where a CREATE INDEX statement is
>> executed. Unfortunately I don't have anywhere to run mssql to test it out.
>> Ultimately, I wasn't worried about indexes on the database because they can
>> always be tweaked ad hoc in a worst case scenario. Besides, Geeklog is lousy
>> about indexes. If you've ever upgraded a database continuously from an early
>> version you might end up with duplicate indexes on various tables.
>>
>>
>> I'll have more time to look at it over the weekend.
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> P.S. You may be a bit late for 1.7.0. Dirk indicated a feature freeze
>> earlier this week and is aiming for a Beta 1.7.0 over the weekend.
>>
>>
>> I always miss the feature freeze emails. Looking back he didn't actually
>> call it a feature freeze. Just a beta this weekend. I sent him an email
>> about this yesterday that he didn't answer. So I can still hope this time I
>> made it under the wire. Technically I suppose this only needs to be part of
>> 1.7.1hg so that GSoC devs can use it.
>>
>>
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From joe at ThrowingDice.com  Sat Apr  3 13:07:33 2010
From: joe at ThrowingDice.com (Joe Mucchiello)
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 2010 13:07:33 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 is on
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At 12:03 PM 4/3/2010, Jakh Daven wrote:
>Thanks for the detailed reply. However, the same argument is valid 
>for public groups isn't it? We have a unique constraint on 
>(grp_owner, grp_name). So nothing stops both you and me from 
>creating two public groups with the same name, "The New Jersey PHP 
>User Group", for example. Socnet still has to differentiate between 
>the two groups when showing them to a member of both the groups.

That's an issue for socnet. There is no core code to create a user-owned group.

>Other than that, I have upgraded to 1.6.1.1 and have been using it. 
>IMHO we can have an option for the admin to set the group owner when 
>creating/editing a group. Of course Socnet will set the user who 
>creates a group as the group owner, but the admin should be able to 
>change the owner by editing the group.

I left that function out on purpose. socnet might have other features 
attached to a group that are very user specific. Likewise, if a group 
is private, even an Admin should not be able to change who owns that 
private group because it violates the privacy of the original creator.

>Will keep you posted as I delve deeper into the changes :)

No problem.


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From tuxcanfly at gmail.com  Sun Apr  4 09:44:21 2010
From: tuxcanfly at gmail.com (Jakh Daven)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 19:14:21 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 is on
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Hi Joe,

So, I added a few user groups from the database by setting grp_owner in
gl_groups table. Then I tried submitting a story as admin and was surprised
to see that the user groups turn up in groups drop down. Looking closer, I
found that  SEC_getGroupDropdown doesn't really return only system groups.
It calls SEC_getUserGroups without any filter and returns *all* groups.
Shouldn't SEC_getUserGroups be called with the "grp_owner=0" filter to get
only system groups?

Thanks,
Jakh

On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 10:37 PM, Joe Mucchiello <joe at throwingdice.com>wrote:

> At 12:03 PM 4/3/2010, Jakh Daven wrote:
>
>> Thanks for the detailed reply. However, the same argument is valid for
>> public groups isn't it? We have a unique constraint on (grp_owner,
>> grp_name). So nothing stops both you and me from creating two public groups
>> with the same name, "The New Jersey PHP User Group", for example. Socnet
>> still has to differentiate between the two groups when showing them to a
>> member of both the groups.
>>
>
> That's an issue for socnet. There is no core code to create a user-owned
> group.
>
>
>  Other than that, I have upgraded to 1.6.1.1 and have been using it. IMHO
>> we can have an option for the admin to set the group owner when
>> creating/editing a group. Of course Socnet will set the user who creates a
>> group as the group owner, but the admin should be able to change the owner
>> by editing the group.
>>
>
> I left that function out on purpose. socnet might have other features
> attached to a group that are very user specific. Likewise, if a group is
> private, even an Admin should not be able to change who owns that private
> group because it violates the privacy of the original creator.
>
>
>  Will keep you posted as I delve deeper into the changes :)
>>
>
> No problem.
>
>
>
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sun Apr  4 10:48:40 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 16:48:40 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.0b1 is out - Help wanted
Message-ID: <20100404144840.855208462@smtp.haun-online.de>

For those who haven't seen it yet: Geeklog 1.7.0 beta 1 is now available
for download:

    http://www.geeklog.net/article.php/geeklog-1.7.0b1

Since this is a beta version, we could use some help in testing it. Any
volunteers? The new Postgres support would be of particular interest, as
well as the MS SQL support (which, traditionally, doesn't get a lot of
love). But we're really interested in anything that doesn't work as it
should. Patches are also welcome, which may be of interest to our
potential GSoC students ;-)

Speaking of which: Many thanks to those who already sent patches. We
haven't been able to include all of them in this release yet - but
there's always a next version.

bye, Dirk


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From joe at ThrowingDice.com  Sun Apr  4 18:34:59 2010
From: joe at ThrowingDice.com (Joe Mucchiello)
Date: Sun, 04 Apr 2010 18:34:59 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 is on
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At 09:44 AM 4/4/2010, Jakh Daven wrote:
>Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00163630f9fde9ab8d04836968e2
>Content-Transfer-Encoding:
>
>Hi Joe,
>
>So, I added a few user groups from the database by setting grp_owner 
>in gl_groups table. Then I tried submitting a story as admin and was 
>surprised to see that the user groups turn up in groups drop down. 
>Looking closer, I found that  SEC_getGroupDropdown doesn't really 
>return only system groups. It calls SEC_getUserGroups without any 
>filter and returns *all* groups. Shouldn't SEC_getUserGroups be 
>called with the "grp_owner=0" filter to get only system groups?

WTF? How is that missing from the code? Yes, add the filter as you 
stated in the SEC_getGroupDropdown call to SEC_getUserGroups. Well, I 
was looking for a reason that I would have to upgrade to the 1.7.0 
beta1. So when I do so I'll include that fix as well.

Thanks for checking my stuff. And for anyone else using at my patch 
(and only those using my patch), change line 1057 of lib-security.php to
         $usergroups = SEC_getUserGroups('grp_owner = 0');



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From msdark at archlinux.cl  Sun Apr  4 23:23:26 2010
From: msdark at archlinux.cl (=?ISO-8859-1?B?TWF07WFzIEhlcm7hbmRleg==?= Arellano)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:23:26 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.0b1 is out - Help wanted
In-Reply-To: <20100404144840.855208462@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <20100404144840.855208462@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <20100404232326.7a888149@archlinux.cl>

El Sun, 4 Apr 2010 16:48:40 +0200
"Dirk Haun" <dirk at haun-online.de> escribi?:
> For those who haven't seen it yet: Geeklog 1.7.0 beta 1 is now
> available for download:
> 
>     http://www.geeklog.net/article.php/geeklog-1.7.0b1
> 
> Since this is a beta version, we could use some help in testing it.
> Any volunteers? The new Postgres support would be of particular
> interest, as well as the MS SQL support (which, traditionally,
> doesn't get a lot of love). But we're really interested in anything
> that doesn't work as it should. Patches are also welcome, which may
> be of interest to our potential GSoC students ;-)
> 
> Speaking of which: Many thanks to those who already sent patches. We
> haven't been able to include all of them in this release yet - but
> there's always a next version.
> 
> bye, Dirk
> 
> 
Testing with PostgreSQL... 


From yankees26an at gmail.com  Sun Apr  4 23:38:35 2010
From: yankees26an at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?4bmoz67isaXItc6v4bmlyp/JkeKImg==?=)
Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 23:38:35 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.0b1 is out - Help wanted
In-Reply-To: <20100404232326.7a888149@archlinux.cl>
References: <20100404144840.855208462@smtp.haun-online.de> 
	<20100404232326.7a888149@archlinux.cl>
Message-ID: <r2y7aaf88901004042038o3624038ekf0debdc1ab9e0b94@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Mat?as :)

2010/4/4 Mat?as Hern?ndez <msdark at archlinux.cl>:
> El Sun, 4 Apr 2010 16:48:40 +0200
> "Dirk Haun" <dirk at haun-online.de> escribi?:
>> For those who haven't seen it yet: Geeklog 1.7.0 beta 1 is now
>> available for download:
>>
>> ? ? http://www.geeklog.net/article.php/geeklog-1.7.0b1
>>
>> Since this is a beta version, we could use some help in testing it.
>> Any volunteers? The new Postgres support would be of particular
>> interest, as well as the MS SQL support (which, traditionally,
>> doesn't get a lot of love). But we're really interested in anything
>> that doesn't work as it should. Patches are also welcome, which may
>> be of interest to our potential GSoC students ;-)
>>
>> Speaking of which: Many thanks to those who already sent patches. We
>> haven't been able to include all of them in this release yet - but
>> there's always a next version.
>>
>> bye, Dirk
>>
>>
> Testing with PostgreSQL...
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>



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From paba50 at gmail.com  Mon Apr  5 18:36:42 2010
From: paba50 at gmail.com (Kumaripaba Miyurusara Atukorala)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 01:36:42 +0300
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoc 2010 - Interested in the project SoC dynamic
	feeds
Message-ID: <p2lce6068bc1004051536i7020421fldc64b0a9faf5ce2e@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,
My name is Kumaripaba, I am a final year masters student of Faculty
Technology, University of Oulu, Finland. I decided to allocate this summer
for Google Summer of Code.
When I was searching for an interesting project to work with, I came across
Geeklog. I found the projects suggested by Geeklog to be very interesting.
I have several years of experience in LAMP. I like to work with the project
SoC dynamic feeds. According what I understood from the description, here I
can work with the Geeklog database and query for updates and filter them
based on the requester's privileges. I would like to know whether these user
privileges are already stored in the database or is it necessary to provide
a user privilege registering mechanism.

I am looking forward  to provide a successful proposal.

Thank you.

Best Regards,
-- 
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Tue Apr  6 01:55:40 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 07:55:40 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoc 2010 - Interested in the project SoC
 dynamic feeds
In-Reply-To: <p2lce6068bc1004051536i7020421fldc64b0a9faf5ce2e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <p2lce6068bc1004051536i7020421fldc64b0a9faf5ce2e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100406055540.1185554256@smtp.haun-online.de>

Kumaripaba Miyurusara Atukorala wrote:

>I would like to know whether these user
>privileges are already stored in the database or is it necessary to provide
>a user privilege registering mechanism.

Yes, Geeklog already has a permission system that lets you control
access to articles and pretty much every other object in Geeklog. The
goal of the project is to make use of those permissions in feeds now.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Tue Apr  6 08:36:39 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 08:36:39 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 is on
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F357183@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>

Thanks Joe for the patch.  (you just saved some students a few days of
fiddling with core)

Well, I guess if this code is there, student proposals for Socnet should
address using this code as the base to work with.  If the student sees a
good reason to not use it, the proposal should also address why.

-randy




> Thanks for checking my stuff. And for anyone else using at my patch
> (and only those using my patch), change line 1057 of lib-security.php
> to
>          $usergroups = SEC_getUserGroups('grp_owner = 0');





From joe at ThrowingDice.com  Tue Apr  6 09:04:20 2010
From: joe at ThrowingDice.com (Joe Mucchiello)
Date: Tue, 06 Apr 2010 09:04:20 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 is on
In-Reply-To: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F357183@nex-pluto.nextide.c a>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F357183@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
Message-ID: <0L0G00MHVHNE3JB0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

I rewriting the patch from scratch for 1.7.0beta. You guys really 
touched a lot of stuff for 1.7 (including the groups table itself). 
So I can't just assume there aren't new places that need to be 
modified. Hopefully doing it the second time won't take as long.


At 08:36 AM 4/6/2010, Randy Kolenko wrote:
>Thanks Joe for the patch.  (you just saved some students a few days of
>fiddling with core)
>
>Well, I guess if this code is there, student proposals for Socnet should
>address using this code as the base to work with.  If the student sees a
>good reason to not use it, the proposal should also address why.
>
>-randy
>
> > Thanks for checking my stuff. And for anyone else using at my patch
> > (and only those using my patch), change line 1057 of lib-security.php
> > to
> >          $usergroups = SEC_getUserGroups('grp_owner = 0');

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From dirk at haun-online.de  Tue Apr  6 15:37:16 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 21:37:16 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Meetups
In-Reply-To: <20091110210325.920524853@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <20091110210325.920524853@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <20100406193716.1504754800@smtp.haun-online.de>

Digging out the old "Meetups" thread again:

I'll be at the ACCU Conference[1] next week (arriving Monday afternoon,
leaving Saturday evening). Is anyone in the Oxford (UK) area next week?

bye, Dirk

[1] http://accu.org/index.php/conferences


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http://geeklog.info/



From rob.howard at kwfs.info  Tue Apr  6 15:43:16 2010
From: rob.howard at kwfs.info (Rob Howard - KWFS)
Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2010 20:43:16 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Meetups
In-Reply-To: <20100406193716.1504754800@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <20091110210325.920524853@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<20100406193716.1504754800@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAAqlqg9zweVBpKSs5Lrz5WzCgAAAEAAAAK9BCVzZUmZFvxUscMrv6boBAAAAAA==@kwfs.info>

I live near Oxford, I may be able to drop by 

Thanks,

Rob Howard
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Digging out the old "Meetups" thread again:

I'll be at the ACCU Conference[1] next week (arriving Monday afternoon,
leaving Saturday evening). Is anyone in the Oxford (UK) area next week?

bye, Dirk

[1] http://accu.org/index.php/conferences


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From rasade88 at gmail.com  Thu Apr  8 04:21:08 2010
From: rasade88 at gmail.com (Ramindu Deshapriya)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 13:51:08 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
In-Reply-To: <8319e2d61003300947s4982df97ge861e0c64b96e8de@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <p2gc86c05ef1004080121ife77ce7dv2c0877c35d027eb8@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
I have submitted the proposal to the GSoC site.
If there are any last minute adjustments that you would like to see made to
it, I would greatly appreciate your feedback about it.
Thanks!

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ramindu,
>
> That is a great outline. I'd suggest (likely under the banner of security
> measures) considering how the e-commerce system can integrate with Geeklog's
> security model (e.g. groups, access rights, ownership, etc).
>
> Ideally, I'd like to see a plugable payment system. That way users can
> choose from several options or implement their own. Whether that is
> supported by VirtueMart, incorporated through another open source project,
> or coded by you should probably be included in your proposal.
>
> -Vinny
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> VirtueMart contains separate modules for payment and shipping. It also
>> contains a host of features which make it more like a CMS within itself. :|
>> I was wondering what exactly should be the features that I should port over
>> to Geeklog? I was thinking on the lines of,
>>
>>    - Creation of sales item lists with descriptions, images etc
>>    - Online payment via payment gateways such as Paypal
>>    - Shopping cart functionality, adding items to the cart, removing,
>>    maintaining cart over a session
>>    - Database tables containing details of previous purchases
>>    - UI implementations such as AJAX-based pop-up item descriptions
>>    - Security measures - encryption etc
>>
>>
>> Anything else that should be added?
>>
>> I am in the process of writing the proposal, and need to include which
>> features I will be carrying over to the Geeklog plugin.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Vincent Furia wrote:
>>>
>>> >You can find what we're looking for in your application/proposal on
>>> >the Geeklog GSOC homepage here:
>>> >http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_org/google/gsoc2010/
>>> >geeklog/geeklog
>>>
>>> Which is the same page that you end up on when going via the list of
>>> accepted orgs:
>>>
>>>  http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/home/google/gsoc2010/geeklog
>>>
>>> But the URL is shorter :)
>>>
>>> bye, Dirk
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.geeklog.net/
>>> http://geeklog.info/
>>>
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>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yours Truly,
>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
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>


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Thu Apr  8 15:01:05 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 21:01:05 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC applications: Only 24 hours left
Message-ID: <20100408190105.1101303302@smtp.haun-online.de>

Just a quick reminder for our potential GSoC students: You have 24 hours
left to submit (or update) your proposal.

Here's a handy countdown: http://tinyurl.com/gsoc2010-student-deadline

But I would strongly suggest NOT to wait until the last minute ...

Please make sure that you did indeed submit your proposal through the
GSoC website, <http://socghop.appspot.com/>. You should have an option
"Submit your Student Proposal"[1] there. Only applications submitted
through that link can be considered (i.e. sending a draft proposal to us
does not mean that you applied for participation in GSoC).

You may also want to check for any comments that have been made on your
proposal. Also make sure that you rolled all the discussion from
feedback (by email or in comments) into your proposal.

Good luck to all and keep them coming :)

bye, Dirk

[1] <http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_program/google/
gsoc2010/userguide#depth_studentapply>


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From anshulkesarwani at gmail.com  Thu Apr  8 22:39:37 2010
From: anshulkesarwani at gmail.com (Anshul Kesarwani)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 08:09:37 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Introduction/GSoC/Spam-X
Message-ID: <k2r86e84a871004081939j3ed579c0h2df2610079c8cf32@mail.gmail.com>

Hello Everyone,

I am Anshul Kesarwani, pursuing my MS degree with major Cyber Law and
Information Security from Indian Institute of Information Technology,
Allahabad, India. I have completed my B. Tech degree with major Information
Technology.

  I am a FOSS enthusiast, I enjoy working on Linux environment, with Fedora
being my distro of choice.

I have quite a good experience with php/ mysql/ html/ javascript. My
achievements include a second prize in Industry Defined Project Contest
(IDPC) conducted by Amazon at Techkriti ?08, IIT-K which was also a project
related to php/ mysql.

   My interests include web designing, exploring Linux, singing, sketching
and blogging.

    As a student of Information Security, I am keenly interested in doing a
project related to spam filtering and participating in GSoC 2010,

Cheers
Anshul Kesarwani
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Fri Apr  9 01:47:51 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Thu, 8 Apr 2010 23:47:51 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
In-Reply-To: <p2gc86c05ef1004080121ife77ce7dv2c0877c35d027eb8@mail.gmail.com>
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Message-ID: <o2q8319e2d61004082247qe75ab1e8q4806287551949d33@mail.gmail.com>

Ramindu,

Dirk and I have left comments attached to your proposal in the GSoC web app.
Let us know if you have any questions.

-Vinny

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:21 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Hello,
> I have submitted the proposal to the GSoC site.
> If there are any last minute adjustments that you would like to see made to
> it, I would greatly appreciate your feedback about it.
> Thanks!
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ramindu,
>>
>> That is a great outline. I'd suggest (likely under the banner of security
>> measures) considering how the e-commerce system can integrate with Geeklog's
>> security model (e.g. groups, access rights, ownership, etc).
>>
>> Ideally, I'd like to see a plugable payment system. That way users can
>> choose from several options or implement their own. Whether that is
>> supported by VirtueMart, incorporated through another open source project,
>> or coded by you should probably be included in your proposal.
>>
>> -Vinny
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>> VirtueMart contains separate modules for payment and shipping. It also
>>> contains a host of features which make it more like a CMS within itself. :|
>>> I was wondering what exactly should be the features that I should port over
>>> to Geeklog? I was thinking on the lines of,
>>>
>>>    - Creation of sales item lists with descriptions, images etc
>>>    - Online payment via payment gateways such as Paypal
>>>    - Shopping cart functionality, adding items to the cart, removing,
>>>    maintaining cart over a session
>>>    - Database tables containing details of previous purchases
>>>    - UI implementations such as AJAX-based pop-up item descriptions
>>>    - Security measures - encryption etc
>>>
>>>
>>> Anything else that should be added?
>>>
>>> I am in the process of writing the proposal, and need to include which
>>> features I will be carrying over to the Geeklog plugin.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Vincent Furia wrote:
>>>>
>>>> >You can find what we're looking for in your application/proposal on
>>>> >the Geeklog GSOC homepage here:
>>>> >http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_org/google/gsoc2010/
>>>> >geeklog/geeklog
>>>>
>>>> Which is the same page that you end up on when going via the list of
>>>> accepted orgs:
>>>>
>>>>  http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/home/google/gsoc2010/geeklog
>>>>
>>>> But the URL is shorter :)
>>>>
>>>> bye, Dirk
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> http://www.geeklog.net/
>>>> http://geeklog.info/
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yours Truly,
>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Yours Truly,
> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Fri Apr  9 01:51:55 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 07:51:55 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Introduction/GSoC/Spam-X
In-Reply-To: <k2r86e84a871004081939j3ed579c0h2df2610079c8cf32@mail.gmail.com>
References: <k2r86e84a871004081939j3ed579c0h2df2610079c8cf32@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100409055155.486522676@smtp.haun-online.de>

Anshul Kesarwani wrote:

>    As a student of Information Security, I am keenly interested in doing a
>project related to spam filtering and participating in GSoC 2010,

Since there is not a lot of time left[1], I'd suggest you submit your
application directly through the GSoC website. I'll try and have a look
at it some time today.

bye, Dirk

[1] <http://eight.pairlist.net/pipermail/geeklog-devel/2010-April/004916.html>


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From rasade88 at gmail.com  Fri Apr  9 02:49:50 2010
From: rasade88 at gmail.com (Ramindu Deshapriya)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:19:50 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
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Sorry about that last silly sentence, I wasn't paying proper attention to
what I was writing. :(
Of course new user groups can be added, right?
Would this require new access rights to be added as well? I was thinking
maybe a function to add new access rights could come with the plugin.

Thanks!

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Ok. From what I understand, you recommend that I add specific user groups
> that will have access to different parts of the store. E.g. 'PC sellers'
> group will have access to add products to the 'PC' section of the store.
> The store owner should have the ability to create new usergroups based on
> whatever sections he or she has included in the store.
> Wouldn't this require changing the core libraries? Specifically, addition
> of new values to usergroups arrays?
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ramindu,
>>
>> I'd definitely include that with your proposal. I know time is short, but
>> you may want to consider the use of Geeklog's permission system for store
>> "sections" (I'm not sure of the terminology, perhaps categories?) or even
>> individual products. Though the implications of doing so need to be thought
>> out, it may prove beneficial to allow certain users (sellers) to modify
>> and/or submit items to be sold. Also, you could use the permission system to
>> limit what categories/items are viewable by which groups of users.
>>
>> Just some out there ideas to consider.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Vinny
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hello and thank you very much for your comments.
>>> I did a whole lot of thinking about how to handle permissions a while
>>> back, then completely forgot about it. :O
>>> What I thought was, I would create a separate admin group known as 'Store
>>> Admin' which, along with Super Admin (Root) would have complete rights to
>>> edit the store, add products, manage sales,view overall statistics etc. This
>>> 'Store Admin' group will be added only if the plugin is installed.
>>> Normal users would be able to purchase goods and manage their shopping
>>> carts, of course.
>>> What do you think? I will add the outcome of this discussion to the
>>> proposal.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ramindu,
>>>>
>>>> Dirk and I have left comments attached to your proposal in the GSoC web
>>>> app. Let us know if you have any questions.
>>>>
>>>> -Vinny
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:21 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>> I have submitted the proposal to the GSoC site.
>>>>> If there are any last minute adjustments that you would like to see
>>>>> made to it, I would greatly appreciate your feedback about it.
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Ramindu,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That is a great outline. I'd suggest (likely under the banner of
>>>>>> security measures) considering how the e-commerce system can integrate with
>>>>>> Geeklog's security model (e.g. groups, access rights, ownership, etc).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ideally, I'd like to see a plugable payment system. That way users can
>>>>>> choose from several options or implement their own. Whether that is
>>>>>> supported by VirtueMart, incorporated through another open source project,
>>>>>> or coded by you should probably be included in your proposal.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Vinny
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <
>>>>>> rasade88 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>> VirtueMart contains separate modules for payment and shipping. It
>>>>>>> also contains a host of features which make it more like a CMS within
>>>>>>> itself. :| I was wondering what exactly should be the features that I should
>>>>>>> port over to Geeklog? I was thinking on the lines of,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>    - Creation of sales item lists with descriptions, images etc
>>>>>>>    - Online payment via payment gateways such as Paypal
>>>>>>>    - Shopping cart functionality, adding items to the cart,
>>>>>>>    removing, maintaining cart over a session
>>>>>>>    - Database tables containing details of previous purchases
>>>>>>>    - UI implementations such as AJAX-based pop-up item descriptions
>>>>>>>    - Security measures - encryption etc
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anything else that should be added?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am in the process of writing the proposal, and need to include
>>>>>>> which features I will be carrying over to the Geeklog plugin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vincent Furia wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >You can find what we're looking for in your application/proposal on
>>>>>>>> >the Geeklog GSOC homepage here:
>>>>>>>> >http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_org/google/gsoc2010/
>>>>>>>> >geeklog/geeklog
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Which is the same page that you end up on when going via the list of
>>>>>>>> accepted orgs:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/home/google/gsoc2010/geeklog
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But the URL is shorter :)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> bye, Dirk
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> http://www.geeklog.net/
>>>>>>>> http://geeklog.info/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>>>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>>>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Yours Truly,
>>>>>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Yours Truly,
>>>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>>>
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yours Truly,
>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Yours Truly,
> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>



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Yours Truly,
Ramindu Deshapriya.
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Fri Apr  9 10:13:21 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 08:13:21 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
In-Reply-To: <t2zc86c05ef1004082349p3bd83204l97be1e8e8bd725cb@mail.gmail.com>
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Plugins typically add groups and access rights during their install phase.
>From your second email it sounds like you get it.

Thanks
-Vinny

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:49 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Sorry about that last silly sentence, I wasn't paying proper attention to
> what I was writing. :(
> Of course new user groups can be added, right?
> Would this require new access rights to be added as well? I was thinking
> maybe a function to add new access rights could come with the plugin.
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Ok. From what I understand, you recommend that I add specific user groups
>> that will have access to different parts of the store. E.g. 'PC sellers'
>> group will have access to add products to the 'PC' section of the store.
>> The store owner should have the ability to create new usergroups based on
>> whatever sections he or she has included in the store.
>> Wouldn't this require changing the core libraries? Specifically, addition
>> of new values to usergroups arrays?
>>
>> Thanks a lot.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ramindu,
>>>
>>> I'd definitely include that with your proposal. I know time is short, but
>>> you may want to consider the use of Geeklog's permission system for store
>>> "sections" (I'm not sure of the terminology, perhaps categories?) or even
>>> individual products. Though the implications of doing so need to be thought
>>> out, it may prove beneficial to allow certain users (sellers) to modify
>>> and/or submit items to be sold. Also, you could use the permission system to
>>> limit what categories/items are viewable by which groups of users.
>>>
>>> Just some out there ideas to consider.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Vinny
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hello and thank you very much for your comments.
>>>> I did a whole lot of thinking about how to handle permissions a while
>>>> back, then completely forgot about it. :O
>>>> What I thought was, I would create a separate admin group known as
>>>> 'Store Admin' which, along with Super Admin (Root) would have complete
>>>> rights to edit the store, add products, manage sales,view overall statistics
>>>> etc. This 'Store Admin' group will be added only if the plugin is installed.
>>>> Normal users would be able to purchase goods and manage their shopping
>>>> carts, of course.
>>>> What do you think? I will add the outcome of this discussion to the
>>>> proposal.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ramindu,
>>>>>
>>>>> Dirk and I have left comments attached to your proposal in the GSoC web
>>>>> app. Let us know if you have any questions.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Vinny
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:21 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com
>>>>> > wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>> I have submitted the proposal to the GSoC site.
>>>>>> If there are any last minute adjustments that you would like to see
>>>>>> made to it, I would greatly appreciate your feedback about it.
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ramindu,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That is a great outline. I'd suggest (likely under the banner of
>>>>>>> security measures) considering how the e-commerce system can integrate with
>>>>>>> Geeklog's security model (e.g. groups, access rights, ownership, etc).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ideally, I'd like to see a plugable payment system. That way users
>>>>>>> can choose from several options or implement their own. Whether that is
>>>>>>> supported by VirtueMart, incorporated through another open source project,
>>>>>>> or coded by you should probably be included in your proposal.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Vinny
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <
>>>>>>> rasade88 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> VirtueMart contains separate modules for payment and shipping. It
>>>>>>>> also contains a host of features which make it more like a CMS within
>>>>>>>> itself. :| I was wondering what exactly should be the features that I should
>>>>>>>> port over to Geeklog? I was thinking on the lines of,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>    - Creation of sales item lists with descriptions, images etc
>>>>>>>>    - Online payment via payment gateways such as Paypal
>>>>>>>>    - Shopping cart functionality, adding items to the cart,
>>>>>>>>    removing, maintaining cart over a session
>>>>>>>>    - Database tables containing details of previous purchases
>>>>>>>>    - UI implementations such as AJAX-based pop-up item descriptions
>>>>>>>>    - Security measures - encryption etc
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anything else that should be added?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am in the process of writing the proposal, and need to include
>>>>>>>> which features I will be carrying over to the Geeklog plugin.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Vincent Furia wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> >You can find what we're looking for in your application/proposal
>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>> >the Geeklog GSOC homepage here:
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_org/google/gsoc2010/
>>>>>>>>> >geeklog/geeklog
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Which is the same page that you end up on when going via the list
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> accepted orgs:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/home/google/gsoc2010/geeklog
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But the URL is shorter :)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> bye, Dirk
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> http://www.geeklog.net/
>>>>>>>>> http://geeklog.info/
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>>>>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>>>>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Yours Truly,
>>>>>>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>>>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>>>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Yours Truly,
>>>>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Yours Truly,
>>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yours Truly,
>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Yours Truly,
> Ramindu Deshapriya.
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From tuxcanfly at gmail.com  Fri Apr  9 11:56:04 2010
From: tuxcanfly at gmail.com (Jakh Daven)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 21:26:04 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Regarding Socnet proposal
Message-ID: <t2o8cceeceb1004090856w69557c58x6e8d10f43a6b6da9@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

Submitted my final proposal on socnet to the GSoC site with mostly cosmetic
changes since the last update. Could some one from the team just make sure
it has reached you?

Thanks Randy, your suggestions were very helpful. Thanks Joe, for your patch
related to user groups.

For anyone interested, my proposal is available at
http://sites.google.com/site/tuxcanfly/Home/socnet and it will be regularly
updated following my discussions with the team.

Cheers,
Jakh
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Fri Apr  9 12:26:30 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 10:26:30 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Regarding Socnet proposal
In-Reply-To: <t2o8cceeceb1004090856w69557c58x6e8d10f43a6b6da9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <t2o8cceeceb1004090856w69557c58x6e8d10f43a6b6da9@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <g2u8319e2d61004090926kc41a7f75k6780a542051743d7@mail.gmail.com>

As of "Friday, April 9, 2010 at 16:24:28 UTC", I do not see your proposal
submitted to http://socghop.appspot.com. (I am assuming it was submitted
under the name "Jakh Daven".)
Please double check to see that you submitted it.

-Vinny

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Jakh Daven <tuxcanfly at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> Submitted my final proposal on socnet to the GSoC site with mostly cosmetic
> changes since the last update. Could some one from the team just make sure
> it has reached you?
>
> Thanks Randy, your suggestions were very helpful. Thanks Joe, for your
> patch related to user groups.
>
> For anyone interested, my proposal is available at
> http://sites.google.com/site/tuxcanfly/Home/socnet and it will be
> regularly updated following my discussions with the team.
>
> Cheers,
> Jakh
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
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From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Fri Apr  9 12:45:40 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 12:45:40 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Regarding Socnet proposal
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F357196@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>

It's in the list under Javed Khan.

Any reason for the different names btw?  You can reply to the contact us
list.

 

 

 

From: Vincent Furia [mailto:vfuria at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 12:27 PM
To: Geeklog Development; Jakh Daven
Cc: Geeklog
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Regarding Socnet proposal

 

As of "Friday, April 9, 2010 at 16:24:28 UTC", I do not see your
proposal submitted to http://socghop.appspot.com. (I am assuming it was
submitted under the name "Jakh Daven".)

Please double check to see that you submitted it.

-Vinny

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Jakh Daven <tuxcanfly at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi All,

 

Submitted my final proposal on socnet to the GSoC site with mostly
cosmetic changes since the last update. Could some one from the team
just make sure it has reached you?

 

Thanks Randy, your suggestions were very helpful. Thanks Joe, for your
patch related to user groups.

 

For anyone interested, my proposal is available at
http://sites.google.com/site/tuxcanfly/Home/socnet and it will be
regularly updated following my discussions with the team.

 

Cheers,

Jakh


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From marco at heavenlysanctuary.com  Fri Apr  9 20:14:32 2010
From: marco at heavenlysanctuary.com (Marco Belmonte)
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 2010 17:14:32 -0700
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
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Have you guys looked at the glfusion SVN tree - there is a plugin that never
got finished but is almost complete that you could reuse instead of starting
from scratch. At least at the very minimum take a look. I'll post the
thread:

 

http://www.glfusion.org/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=14490

 

If you follow the thread you'll see it was almost ready for release and then
we decided not to go with it and no one else picked it up for development -
although many want it.

 

I think you'll be quite surprised at its maturity. Of course it's all
opensource.

 

Anyways, just saw this come through and thought I'd comment.

 

Good luck!

 

-          Marco

 

From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Ramindu
Deshapriya
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:50 PM
To: Vincent Furia
Cc: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart
plugin

 

Sorry about that last silly sentence, I wasn't paying proper attention to
what I was writing. :(

Of course new user groups can be added, right?

Would this require new access rights to be added as well? I was thinking
maybe a function to add new access rights could come with the plugin.

 

Thanks!

 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
wrote:

Ok. From what I understand, you recommend that I add specific user groups
that will have access to different parts of the store. E.g. 'PC sellers'
group will have access to add products to the 'PC' section of the store. 

The store owner should have the ability to create new usergroups based on
whatever sections he or she has included in the store.

Wouldn't this require changing the core libraries? Specifically, addition of
new values to usergroups arrays?

 

Thanks a lot.

 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:

Ramindu,

 

I'd definitely include that with your proposal. I know time is short, but
you may want to consider the use of Geeklog's permission system for store
"sections" (I'm not sure of the terminology, perhaps categories?) or even
individual products. Though the implications of doing so need to be thought
out, it may prove beneficial to allow certain users (sellers) to modify
and/or submit items to be sold. Also, you could use the permission system to
limit what categories/items are viewable by which groups of users.

 

Just some out there ideas to consider.


Thanks,

Vinny

 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
wrote:

Hello and thank you very much for your comments.

I did a whole lot of thinking about how to handle permissions a while back,
then completely forgot about it. :O

What I thought was, I would create a separate admin group known as 'Store
Admin' which, along with Super Admin (Root) would have complete rights to
edit the store, add products, manage sales,view overall statistics etc. This
'Store Admin' group will be added only if the plugin is installed.

Normal users would be able to purchase goods and manage their shopping
carts, of course.

What do you think? I will add the outcome of this discussion to the
proposal.

 

Thanks!

 

On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:

Ramindu,

 

Dirk and I have left comments attached to your proposal in the GSoC web app.
Let us know if you have any questions.

 

-Vinny

 

On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:21 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
wrote:

Hello,

I have submitted the proposal to the GSoC site.

If there are any last minute adjustments that you would like to see made to
it, I would greatly appreciate your feedback about it.

Thanks!

 

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:

Ramindu,

That is a great outline. I'd suggest (likely under the banner of security
measures) considering how the e-commerce system can integrate with Geeklog's
security model (e.g. groups, access rights, ownership, etc).

Ideally, I'd like to see a plugable payment system. That way users can
choose from several options or implement their own. Whether that is
supported by VirtueMart, incorporated through another open source project,
or coded by you should probably be included in your proposal.

-Vinny

 

On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
wrote:

Hello,
VirtueMart contains separate modules for payment and shipping. It also
contains a host of features which make it more like a CMS within itself. :|
I was wondering what exactly should be the features that I should port over
to Geeklog? I was thinking on the lines of,

*	Creation of sales item lists with descriptions, images etc
*	Online payment via payment gateways such as Paypal
*	Shopping cart functionality, adding items to the cart, removing,
maintaining cart over a session
*	Database tables containing details of previous purchases
*	UI implementations such as AJAX-based pop-up item descriptions
*	Security measures - encryption etc


Anything else that should be added?

I am in the process of writing the proposal, and need to include which
features I will be carrying over to the Geeklog plugin.

Thanks!

 

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:

Vincent Furia wrote:

>You can find what we're looking for in your application/proposal on
>the Geeklog GSOC homepage here:
>http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_org/google/gsoc2010/
>geeklog/geeklog

Which is the same page that you end up on when going via the list of
accepted orgs:

 http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/home/google/gsoc2010/geeklog

But the URL is shorter :)

bye, Dirk


--
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http://geeklog.info/


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Ramindu Deshapriya.


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From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 10:47:15 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
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Hello Marco,

I'm working to port this plugin to geeklog, maybe a first release will
be ready for this summer.

::Ben

2010/4/10 Marco Belmonte <marco at heavenlysanctuary.com>:
> Have you guys looked at the glfusion SVN tree ? there is a plugin that never
> got finished but is almost complete that you could reuse instead of starting
> from scratch. At least at the very minimum take a look. I?ll post the
> thread:
>
>
>
> http://www.glfusion.org/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=14490
>
>
>
> If you follow the thread you?ll see it was almost ready for release and then
> we decided not to go with it and no one else picked it up for development ?
> although many want it.
>
>
>
> I think you?ll be quite surprised at its maturity. Of course it?s all
> opensource.
>
>
>
> Anyways, just saw this come through and thought I?d comment.
>
>
>
> Good luck!
>
>
>
> -????????? Marco
>
>
>
> From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
> [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Ramindu
> Deshapriya
> Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:50 PM
> To: Vincent Furia
> Cc: Geeklog Development
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart
> plugin
>
>
>
> Sorry about that last silly sentence, I wasn't paying proper attention to
> what I was writing. :(
>
> Of course new user groups can be added, right?
>
> Would this require new access rights to be added as well? I was thinking
> maybe a function to add new access rights could come with the plugin.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Ok. From what I understand, you recommend that I add specific user groups
> that will have access to different parts of the store. E.g. 'PC sellers'
> group will have access to add products to the 'PC' section of the store.
>
> The store owner should have the ability to create new usergroups based on
> whatever sections he or she has included in the store.
>
> Wouldn't this require changing the core libraries? Specifically, addition of
> new values to usergroups arrays?
>
>
>
> Thanks a lot.
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ramindu,
>
>
>
> I'd definitely include that with your proposal. I know time is short, but
> you may want to consider the?use of Geeklog's permission system for store
> "sections" (I'm not sure of the terminology, perhaps categories?) or even
> individual products. Though the implications of doing so need to be thought
> out, it may prove beneficial to allow certain users (sellers) to modify
> and/or submit items to be sold. Also, you could use the permission system to
> limit what categories/items are viewable by which groups of users.
>
>
>
> Just some out there ideas to consider.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Vinny
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello and thank you very much for your comments.
>
> I did a whole lot of thinking about how to handle permissions a while back,
> then completely forgot about it. :O
>
> What I thought was, I would create a?separate?admin group known as 'Store
> Admin' which, along with Super Admin (Root) would have complete rights to
> edit the store, add products, manage sales,view overall statistics etc. This
> 'Store Admin' group will be added only if the plugin is installed.
>
> Normal users would be able to purchase goods and manage their shopping
> carts, of course.
>
> What do you think? I will add the outcome of this discussion to the
> proposal.
>
>
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ramindu,
>
>
>
> Dirk and I have left comments attached to your proposal in the GSoC web app.
> Let us know if you have any questions.
>
>
>
> -Vinny
>
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:21 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> I have submitted the proposal to the GSoC site.
>
> If there are any last minute adjustments that you would like to see made to
> it, I would greatly appreciate your feedback about it.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Ramindu,
>
> That is a great outline. I'd suggest (likely under the banner of security
> measures) considering how the e-commerce system can integrate with Geeklog's
> security model (e.g. groups, access rights, ownership, etc).
>
> Ideally, I'd like to see a plugable payment system. That way users can
> choose from several options or implement their own. Whether that is
> supported by VirtueMart, incorporated through another open source project,
> or coded by you should probably be included in your proposal.
>
> -Vinny
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hello,
> VirtueMart contains separate modules for payment and shipping. It also
> contains a host of features which make it more like a CMS within itself. :|
> I was wondering what exactly should be the features that I should port over
> to Geeklog? I was thinking on the lines of,
>
> Creation of sales item lists with descriptions, images etc
> Online payment via payment gateways such as Paypal
> Shopping cart functionality, adding items to the cart, removing, maintaining
> cart over a session
> Database tables containing details of previous purchases
> UI implementations such as AJAX-based pop-up item descriptions
> Security measures - encryption etc
>
> Anything else that should be added?
>
> I am in the process of writing the proposal, and need to include which
> features I will be carrying over to the Geeklog plugin.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
>
> Vincent Furia wrote:
>
>>You can find what we're looking for in your application/proposal on
>>the Geeklog GSOC homepage here:
>>http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_org/google/gsoc2010/
>>geeklog/geeklog
>
> Which is the same page that you end up on when going via the list of
> accepted orgs:
>
> ?http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/home/google/gsoc2010/geeklog
>
> But the URL is shorter :)
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.geeklog.net/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
> --
> Yours Truly,
> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>
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>
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>
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> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>
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> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
>
>
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> Yours Truly,
> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>
>
>
> --
> Yours Truly,
> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>
>
> --
> Yours Truly,
> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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>


From tuxcanfly at gmail.com  Sat Apr 10 08:33:33 2010
From: tuxcanfly at gmail.com (Javed Khan)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:03:33 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 is on
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Hi Joe,

I have ported the 1.6.1.1 changes to the latest trunk as a patch. For easy
comparison I have attached your changes too.

I am assuming that addition of grp_default field to groups table doesn't
affect user groups. Please review the patch. Looking forward for your
feedback :)

More info: http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1106

Thanks,
Jakh

On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Joe Mucchiello <joe at throwingdice.com> wrote:

> I rewriting the patch from scratch for 1.7.0beta. You guys really touched a
> lot of stuff for 1.7 (including the groups table itself). So I can't just
> assume there aren't new places that need to be modified. Hopefully doing it
> the second time won't take as long.
>
>
>
> At 08:36 AM 4/6/2010, Randy Kolenko wrote:
>
>> Thanks Joe for the patch.  (you just saved some students a few days of
>> fiddling with core)
>>
>> Well, I guess if this code is there, student proposals for Socnet should
>> address using this code as the base to work with.  If the student sees a
>> good reason to not use it, the proposal should also address why.
>>
>> -randy
>>
>> > Thanks for checking my stuff. And for anyone else using at my patch
>> > (and only those using my patch), change line 1057 of lib-security.php
>> > to
>> >          $usergroups = SEC_getUserGroups('grp_owner = 0');
>>
>
> ----
> Joe Mucchiello
> Throwing Dice Games
> http://www.throwingdice.com
>
>
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From tuxcanfly at gmail.com  Sat Apr 10 08:47:23 2010
From: tuxcanfly at gmail.com (Javed Khan)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 18:17:23 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Regarding Socnet proposal
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Hi All,

I have posted and contributed to geeklog and elsewhere on the internet as
Jakh Daven. Its an anagram of my name - Javed Khan and there's really no
reason, its just my 'internet name'. GSoC related documents have my real
name. To avoid any further problems, I will post under my real name from now
on.

 I sincerely apologize for any confusion this may have caused.

Thanks,
Javed
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca>wrote:

>  It?s in the list under Javed Khan.
>
> Any reason for the different names btw?  You can reply to the contact us
> list.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Vincent Furia [mailto:vfuria at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 09, 2010 12:27 PM
> *To:* Geeklog Development; Jakh Daven
> *Cc:* Geeklog
> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] Regarding Socnet proposal
>
>
>
> As of "Friday, April 9, 2010 at 16:24:28 UTC", I do not see your proposal
> submitted to http://socghop.appspot.com. (I am assuming it was submitted
> under the name "Jakh Daven".)
>
> Please double check to see that you submitted it.
>
> -Vinny
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Jakh Daven <tuxcanfly at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Submitted my final proposal on socnet to the GSoC site with mostly cosmetic
> changes since the last update. Could some one from the team just make sure
> it has reached you?
>
>
>
> Thanks Randy, your suggestions were very helpful. Thanks Joe, for your
> patch related to user groups.
>
>
>
> For anyone interested, my proposal is available at
> http://sites.google.com/site/tuxcanfly/Home/socnet and it will be
> regularly updated following my discussions with the team.
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jakh
>
>
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From rasade88 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 10 09:38:24 2010
From: rasade88 at gmail.com (Ramindu Deshapriya)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 19:08:24 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
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Thanks Marco!
Looking in to it. :)

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 2:17 PM, cordiste <cordiste at free.fr> wrote:

> Hello Marco,
>
> I'm working to port this plugin to geeklog, maybe a first release will
> be ready for this summer.
>
> ::Ben
>
> 2010/4/10 Marco Belmonte <marco at heavenlysanctuary.com>:
> > Have you guys looked at the glfusion SVN tree ? there is a plugin that
> never
> > got finished but is almost complete that you could reuse instead of
> starting
> > from scratch. At least at the very minimum take a look. I?ll post the
> > thread:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.glfusion.org/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=14490
> >
> >
> >
> > If you follow the thread you?ll see it was almost ready for release and
> then
> > we decided not to go with it and no one else picked it up for development
> ?
> > although many want it.
> >
> >
> >
> > I think you?ll be quite surprised at its maturity. Of course it?s all
> > opensource.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyways, just saw this come through and thought I?d comment.
> >
> >
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> >
> >
> > -          Marco
> >
> >
> >
> > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
> > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Ramindu
> > Deshapriya
> > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:50 PM
> > To: Vincent Furia
> > Cc: Geeklog Development
> > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart
> > plugin
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry about that last silly sentence, I wasn't paying proper attention to
> > what I was writing. :(
> >
> > Of course new user groups can be added, right?
> >
> > Would this require new access rights to be added as well? I was thinking
> > maybe a function to add new access rights could come with the plugin.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Ok. From what I understand, you recommend that I add specific user groups
> > that will have access to different parts of the store. E.g. 'PC sellers'
> > group will have access to add products to the 'PC' section of the store.
> >
> > The store owner should have the ability to create new usergroups based on
> > whatever sections he or she has included in the store.
> >
> > Wouldn't this require changing the core libraries? Specifically, addition
> of
> > new values to usergroups arrays?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks a lot.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ramindu,
> >
> >
> >
> > I'd definitely include that with your proposal. I know time is short, but
> > you may want to consider the use of Geeklog's permission system for store
> > "sections" (I'm not sure of the terminology, perhaps categories?) or even
> > individual products. Though the implications of doing so need to be
> thought
> > out, it may prove beneficial to allow certain users (sellers) to modify
> > and/or submit items to be sold. Also, you could use the permission system
> to
> > limit what categories/items are viewable by which groups of users.
> >
> >
> >
> > Just some out there ideas to consider.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Vinny
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hello and thank you very much for your comments.
> >
> > I did a whole lot of thinking about how to handle permissions a while
> back,
> > then completely forgot about it. :O
> >
> > What I thought was, I would create a separate admin group known as 'Store
> > Admin' which, along with Super Admin (Root) would have complete rights to
> > edit the store, add products, manage sales,view overall statistics etc.
> This
> > 'Store Admin' group will be added only if the plugin is installed.
> >
> > Normal users would be able to purchase goods and manage their shopping
> > carts, of course.
> >
> > What do you think? I will add the outcome of this discussion to the
> > proposal.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ramindu,
> >
> >
> >
> > Dirk and I have left comments attached to your proposal in the GSoC web
> app.
> > Let us know if you have any questions.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Vinny
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:21 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have submitted the proposal to the GSoC site.
> >
> > If there are any last minute adjustments that you would like to see made
> to
> > it, I would greatly appreciate your feedback about it.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Ramindu,
> >
> > That is a great outline. I'd suggest (likely under the banner of security
> > measures) considering how the e-commerce system can integrate with
> Geeklog's
> > security model (e.g. groups, access rights, ownership, etc).
> >
> > Ideally, I'd like to see a plugable payment system. That way users can
> > choose from several options or implement their own. Whether that is
> > supported by VirtueMart, incorporated through another open source
> project,
> > or coded by you should probably be included in your proposal.
> >
> > -Vinny
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > VirtueMart contains separate modules for payment and shipping. It also
> > contains a host of features which make it more like a CMS within itself.
> :|
> > I was wondering what exactly should be the features that I should port
> over
> > to Geeklog? I was thinking on the lines of,
> >
> > Creation of sales item lists with descriptions, images etc
> > Online payment via payment gateways such as Paypal
> > Shopping cart functionality, adding items to the cart, removing,
> maintaining
> > cart over a session
> > Database tables containing details of previous purchases
> > UI implementations such as AJAX-based pop-up item descriptions
> > Security measures - encryption etc
> >
> > Anything else that should be added?
> >
> > I am in the process of writing the proposal, and need to include which
> > features I will be carrying over to the Geeklog plugin.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
> >
> > Vincent Furia wrote:
> >
> >>You can find what we're looking for in your application/proposal on
> >>the Geeklog GSOC homepage here:
> >>http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_org/google/gsoc2010/
> >>geeklog/geeklog
> >
> > Which is the same page that you end up on when going via the list of
> > accepted orgs:
> >
> >  http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/home/google/gsoc2010/geeklog
> >
> > But the URL is shorter :)
> >
> > bye, Dirk
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.geeklog.net/
> > http://geeklog.info/
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > geeklog-devel mailing list
> > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> >
> > --
> > Yours Truly,
> > Ramindu Deshapriya.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > geeklog-devel mailing list
> > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > geeklog-devel mailing list
> > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> >
> >
> > --
> > Yours Truly,
> > Ramindu Deshapriya.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > geeklog-devel mailing list
> > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Yours Truly,
> > Ramindu Deshapriya.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Yours Truly,
> > Ramindu Deshapriya.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Yours Truly,
> > Ramindu Deshapriya.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > geeklog-devel mailing list
> > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>



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From: yankees26an at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?4bmoz67isaXItc6v4bmlyp/JkeKImg==?=)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:37:09 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 is on
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As Vincent mentioned, I attached the updated pgSQL install file. I'll
continue testing out pgSQL with what Joe's conjuring up.

Also, for the $_GROUPS problem,

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Javed Khan <tuxcanfly at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Joe,
> I have ported the 1.6.1.1 changes to the latest trunk as a patch. For easy
> comparison I have attached your changes too.
> I am assuming that addition of grp_default field to groups table doesn't
> affect user groups. Please review the patch. Looking forward for your
> feedback :)
> More info:?http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1106
> Thanks,
> Jakh
> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Joe Mucchiello <joe at throwingdice.com> wrote:
>>
>> I rewriting the patch from scratch for 1.7.0beta. You guys really touched
>> a lot of stuff for 1.7 (including the groups table itself). So I can't just
>> assume there aren't new places that need to be modified. Hopefully doing it
>> the second time won't take as long.
>>
>>
>> At 08:36 AM 4/6/2010, Randy Kolenko wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Joe for the patch. ?(you just saved some students a few days of
>>> fiddling with core)
>>>
>>> Well, I guess if this code is there, student proposals for Socnet should
>>> address using this code as the base to work with. ?If the student sees a
>>> good reason to not use it, the proposal should also address why.
>>>
>>> -randy
>>>
>>> > Thanks for checking my stuff. And for anyone else using at my patch
>>> > (and only those using my patch), change line 1057 of lib-security.php
>>> > to
>>> > ? ? ? ? ?$usergroups = SEC_getUserGroups('grp_owner = 0');
>>
>> ----
>> Joe Mucchiello
>> Throwing Dice Games
>> http://www.throwingdice.com
>>
>>
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>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
>



-- 
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Stanislav


From yankees26an at gmail.com  Sat Apr 10 11:38:00 2010
From: yankees26an at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?4bmoz67isaXItc6v4bmlyp/JkeKImg==?=)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:38:00 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 is on
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References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F357183@nex-pluto.nextide.ca> 
	<0L0G00MHVHNE3JB0@mta4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>
	<s2x8cceeceb1004100533hfd12b14cze4a99c1639419114@mail.gmail.com>
	<j2t7aaf88901004100837qa7ed5d6ct898e94da52b7c401@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p2n7aaf88901004100838x3172f276nd348f10d648240d3@mail.gmail.com>

Ignore the last line, heh

On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 11:37 AM, ????????? <yankees26an at gmail.com> wrote:
> As Vincent mentioned, I attached the updated pgSQL install file. I'll
> continue testing out pgSQL with what Joe's conjuring up.
>
> Also, for the $_GROUPS problem,
>
> On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Javed Khan <tuxcanfly at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Joe,
>> I have ported the 1.6.1.1 changes to the latest trunk as a patch. For easy
>> comparison I have attached your changes too.
>> I am assuming that addition of grp_default field to groups table doesn't
>> affect user groups. Please review the patch. Looking forward for your
>> feedback :)
>> More info:?http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1106
>> Thanks,
>> Jakh
>> On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 6:34 PM, Joe Mucchiello <joe at throwingdice.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I rewriting the patch from scratch for 1.7.0beta. You guys really touched
>>> a lot of stuff for 1.7 (including the groups table itself). So I can't just
>>> assume there aren't new places that need to be modified. Hopefully doing it
>>> the second time won't take as long.
>>>
>>>
>>> At 08:36 AM 4/6/2010, Randy Kolenko wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Joe for the patch. ?(you just saved some students a few days of
>>>> fiddling with core)
>>>>
>>>> Well, I guess if this code is there, student proposals for Socnet should
>>>> address using this code as the base to work with. ?If the student sees a
>>>> good reason to not use it, the proposal should also address why.
>>>>
>>>> -randy
>>>>
>>>> > Thanks for checking my stuff. And for anyone else using at my patch
>>>> > (and only those using my patch), change line 1057 of lib-security.php
>>>> > to
>>>> > ? ? ? ? ?$usergroups = SEC_getUserGroups('grp_owner = 0');
>>>
>>> ----
>>> Joe Mucchiello
>>> Throwing Dice Games
>>> http://www.throwingdice.com
>>>
>>>
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>>> Checked by PC Tools AntiVirus (6.0.0.19 - 10.004.176).
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Warmly,
>
> Stanislav
>



-- 
Warmly,

Stanislav


From marco at heavenlysanctuary.com  Sat Apr 10 14:39:03 2010
From: marco at heavenlysanctuary.com (Marco Belmonte)
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2010 11:39:03 -0700
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
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	<z2j8319e2d61004082324ld7e06368hcf60587bfeef2f40@mail.gmail.com>
	<l2lc86c05ef1004082341gff5a3689z1dd99b49aa08b1bb@mail.gmail.com>
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Hi Ben,

Fantastic - I didn't realize you were already using it for your base code -
it's good to know that it will finally be utilized! 

I look forward to watching your progress.

- Marco

> -----Original Message-----
> From: hostellerie.org at gmail.com [mailto:hostellerie.org at gmail.com] On
Behalf
> Of cordiste
> Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 1:47 AM
> To: marco at heavenlysanctuary.com; Geeklog Development
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart
plugin
> 
> Hello Marco,
> 
> I'm working to port this plugin to geeklog, maybe a first release will
> be ready for this summer.
> 
> ::Ben
> 
> 2010/4/10 Marco Belmonte <marco at heavenlysanctuary.com>:
> > Have you guys looked at the glfusion SVN tree ? there is a plugin that
never
> > got finished but is almost complete that you could reuse instead of
starting
> > from scratch. At least at the very minimum take a look. I?ll post the
> > thread:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://www.glfusion.org/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=14490
> >
> >
> >
> > If you follow the thread you?ll see it was almost ready for release and
then
> > we decided not to go with it and no one else picked it up for
development ?
> > although many want it.
> >
> >
> >
> > I think you?ll be quite surprised at its maturity. Of course it?s all
> > opensource.
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyways, just saw this come through and thought I?d comment.
> >
> >
> >
> > Good luck!
> >
> >
> >
> > -????????? Marco
> >
> >
> >
> > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
> > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Ramindu
> > Deshapriya
> > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:50 PM
> > To: Vincent Furia
> > Cc: Geeklog Development
> > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart
> > plugin
> >
> >
> >
> > Sorry about that last silly sentence, I wasn't paying proper attention
to
> > what I was writing. :(
> >
> > Of course new user groups can be added, right?
> >
> > Would this require new access rights to be added as well? I was thinking
> > maybe a function to add new access rights could come with the plugin.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Ok. From what I understand, you recommend that I add specific user
groups
> > that will have access to different parts of the store. E.g. 'PC sellers'
> > group will have access to add products to the 'PC' section of the store.
> >
> > The store owner should have the ability to create new usergroups based
on
> > whatever sections he or she has included in the store.
> >
> > Wouldn't this require changing the core libraries? Specifically,
addition of
> > new values to usergroups arrays?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks a lot.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ramindu,
> >
> >
> >
> > I'd definitely include that with your proposal. I know time is short,
but
> > you may want to consider the?use of Geeklog's permission system for
store
> > "sections" (I'm not sure of the terminology, perhaps categories?) or
even
> > individual products. Though the implications of doing so need to be
thought
> > out, it may prove beneficial to allow certain users (sellers) to modify
> > and/or submit items to be sold. Also, you could use the permission
system to
> > limit what categories/items are viewable by which groups of users.
> >
> >
> >
> > Just some out there ideas to consider.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Vinny
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hello and thank you very much for your comments.
> >
> > I did a whole lot of thinking about how to handle permissions a while
back,
> > then completely forgot about it. :O
> >
> > What I thought was, I would create a?separate?admin group known as
'Store
> > Admin' which, along with Super Admin (Root) would have complete rights
to
> > edit the store, add products, manage sales,view overall statistics etc.
This
> > 'Store Admin' group will be added only if the plugin is installed.
> >
> > Normal users would be able to purchase goods and manage their shopping
> > carts, of course.
> >
> > What do you think? I will add the outcome of this discussion to the
> > proposal.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Ramindu,
> >
> >
> >
> > Dirk and I have left comments attached to your proposal in the GSoC web
app.
> > Let us know if you have any questions.
> >
> >
> >
> > -Vinny
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:21 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have submitted the proposal to the GSoC site.
> >
> > If there are any last minute adjustments that you would like to see made
to
> > it, I would greatly appreciate your feedback about it.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> > Ramindu,
> >
> > That is a great outline. I'd suggest (likely under the banner of
security
> > measures) considering how the e-commerce system can integrate with
Geeklog's
> > security model (e.g. groups, access rights, ownership, etc).
> >
> > Ideally, I'd like to see a plugable payment system. That way users can
> > choose from several options or implement their own. Whether that is
> > supported by VirtueMart, incorporated through another open source
project,
> > or coded by you should probably be included in your proposal.
> >
> > -Vinny
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Hello,
> > VirtueMart contains separate modules for payment and shipping. It also
> > contains a host of features which make it more like a CMS within itself.
:|
> > I was wondering what exactly should be the features that I should port
over
> > to Geeklog? I was thinking on the lines of,
> >
> > Creation of sales item lists with descriptions, images etc
> > Online payment via payment gateways such as Paypal
> > Shopping cart functionality, adding items to the cart, removing,
maintaining
> > cart over a session
> > Database tables containing details of previous purchases
> > UI implementations such as AJAX-based pop-up item descriptions
> > Security measures - encryption etc
> >
> > Anything else that should be added?
> >
> > I am in the process of writing the proposal, and need to include which
> > features I will be carrying over to the Geeklog plugin.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
> >
> > Vincent Furia wrote:
> >
> >>You can find what we're looking for in your application/proposal on
> >>the Geeklog GSOC homepage here:
> >>http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_org/google/gsoc2010/
> >>geeklog/geeklog
> >
> > Which is the same page that you end up on when going via the list of
> > accepted orgs:
> >
> > ?http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/home/google/gsoc2010/geeklog
> >
> > But the URL is shorter :)
> >
> > bye, Dirk
> >
> >
> > --
> > http://www.geeklog.net/
> > http://geeklog.info/
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > geeklog-devel mailing list
> > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> >
> > --
> > Yours Truly,
> > Ramindu Deshapriya.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > geeklog-devel mailing list
> > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > geeklog-devel mailing list
> > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> >
> >
> > --
> > Yours Truly,
> > Ramindu Deshapriya.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > geeklog-devel mailing list
> > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Yours Truly,
> > Ramindu Deshapriya.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Yours Truly,
> > Ramindu Deshapriya.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Yours Truly,
> > Ramindu Deshapriya.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > geeklog-devel mailing list
> > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> >
> >




From rasade88 at gmail.com  Sun Apr 11 02:16:33 2010
From: rasade88 at gmail.com (Ramindu Deshapriya)
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 11:46:33 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart plugin
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I checked it our, and it will indeed be a great starting point for the
e-commerce plugin for Geeklog. Actually, I thought I'd use it as more of a
reference as I need to port over something with frequent updates (such as
VirtueMart) which has community backing as well...

On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 12:09 AM, Marco Belmonte <
marco at heavenlysanctuary.com> wrote:

> Hi Ben,
>
> Fantastic - I didn't realize you were already using it for your base code -
> it's good to know that it will finally be utilized!
>
> I look forward to watching your progress.
>
> - Marco
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: hostellerie.org at gmail.com [mailto:hostellerie.org at gmail.com] On
> Behalf
> > Of cordiste
> > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 1:47 AM
> > To: marco at heavenlysanctuary.com; Geeklog Development
> > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart
> plugin
> >
> > Hello Marco,
> >
> > I'm working to port this plugin to geeklog, maybe a first release will
> > be ready for this summer.
> >
> > ::Ben
> >
> > 2010/4/10 Marco Belmonte <marco at heavenlysanctuary.com>:
> > > Have you guys looked at the glfusion SVN tree ? there is a plugin that
> never
> > > got finished but is almost complete that you could reuse instead of
> starting
> > > from scratch. At least at the very minimum take a look. I?ll post the
> > > thread:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.glfusion.org/forum/viewtopic.php?showtopic=14490
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > If you follow the thread you?ll see it was almost ready for release and
> then
> > > we decided not to go with it and no one else picked it up for
> development ?
> > > although many want it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I think you?ll be quite surprised at its maturity. Of course it?s all
> > > opensource.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyways, just saw this come through and thought I?d comment.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Good luck!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -          Marco
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
> > > [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Ramindu
> > > Deshapriya
> > > Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 11:50 PM
> > > To: Vincent Furia
> > > Cc: Geeklog Development
> > > Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] GSoC 2010 idea - E-Commerce/Shopping Cart
> > > plugin
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Sorry about that last silly sentence, I wasn't paying proper attention
> to
> > > what I was writing. :(
> > >
> > > Of course new user groups can be added, right?
> > >
> > > Would this require new access rights to be added as well? I was
> thinking
> > > maybe a function to add new access rights could come with the plugin.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:11 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <
> rasade88 at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok. From what I understand, you recommend that I add specific user
> groups
> > > that will have access to different parts of the store. E.g. 'PC
> sellers'
> > > group will have access to add products to the 'PC' section of the
> store.
> > >
> > > The store owner should have the ability to create new usergroups based
> on
> > > whatever sections he or she has included in the store.
> > >
> > > Wouldn't this require changing the core libraries? Specifically,
> addition of
> > > new values to usergroups arrays?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:54 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ramindu,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I'd definitely include that with your proposal. I know time is short,
> but
> > > you may want to consider the use of Geeklog's permission system for
> store
> > > "sections" (I'm not sure of the terminology, perhaps categories?) or
> even
> > > individual products. Though the implications of doing so need to be
> thought
> > > out, it may prove beneficial to allow certain users (sellers) to modify
> > > and/or submit items to be sold. Also, you could use the permission
> system to
> > > limit what categories/items are viewable by which groups of users.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Just some out there ideas to consider.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Vinny
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <
> rasade88 at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello and thank you very much for your comments.
> > >
> > > I did a whole lot of thinking about how to handle permissions a while
> back,
> > > then completely forgot about it. :O
> > >
> > > What I thought was, I would create a separate admin group known as
> 'Store
> > > Admin' which, along with Super Admin (Root) would have complete rights
> to
> > > edit the store, add products, manage sales,view overall statistics etc.
> This
> > > 'Store Admin' group will be added only if the plugin is installed.
> > >
> > > Normal users would be able to purchase goods and manage their shopping
> > > carts, of course.
> > >
> > > What do you think? I will add the outcome of this discussion to the
> > > proposal.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 11:17 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ramindu,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Dirk and I have left comments attached to your proposal in the GSoC web
> app.
> > > Let us know if you have any questions.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Vinny
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 2:21 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I have submitted the proposal to the GSoC site.
> > >
> > > If there are any last minute adjustments that you would like to see
> made
> to
> > > it, I would greatly appreciate your feedback about it.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 10:17 PM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ramindu,
> > >
> > > That is a great outline. I'd suggest (likely under the banner of
> security
> > > measures) considering how the e-commerce system can integrate with
> Geeklog's
> > > security model (e.g. groups, access rights, ownership, etc).
> > >
> > > Ideally, I'd like to see a plugable payment system. That way users can
> > > choose from several options or implement their own. Whether that is
> > > supported by VirtueMart, incorporated through another open source
> project,
> > > or coded by you should probably be included in your proposal.
> > >
> > > -Vinny
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 3:24 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <
> rasade88 at gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > > VirtueMart contains separate modules for payment and shipping. It also
> > > contains a host of features which make it more like a CMS within
> itself.
> :|
> > > I was wondering what exactly should be the features that I should port
> over
> > > to Geeklog? I was thinking on the lines of,
> > >
> > > Creation of sales item lists with descriptions, images etc
> > > Online payment via payment gateways such as Paypal
> > > Shopping cart functionality, adding items to the cart, removing,
> maintaining
> > > cart over a session
> > > Database tables containing details of previous purchases
> > > UI implementations such as AJAX-based pop-up item descriptions
> > > Security measures - encryption etc
> > >
> > > Anything else that should be added?
> > >
> > > I am in the process of writing the proposal, and need to include which
> > > features I will be carrying over to the Geeklog plugin.
> > >
> > > Thanks!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Vincent Furia wrote:
> > >
> > >>You can find what we're looking for in your application/proposal on
> > >>the Geeklog GSOC homepage here:
> > >>http://socghop.appspot.com/document/show/gsoc_org/google/gsoc2010/
> > >>geeklog/geeklog
> > >
> > > Which is the same page that you end up on when going via the list of
> > > accepted orgs:
> > >
> > >  http://socghop.appspot.com/gsoc/org/home/google/gsoc2010/geeklog
> > >
> > > But the URL is shorter :)
> > >
> > > bye, Dirk
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > http://www.geeklog.net/
> > > http://geeklog.info/
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > geeklog-devel mailing list
> > > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> > > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> > >
> > > --
> > > Yours Truly,
> > > Ramindu Deshapriya.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > geeklog-devel mailing list
> > > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> > > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > geeklog-devel mailing list
> > > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> > > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Yours Truly,
> > > Ramindu Deshapriya.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > geeklog-devel mailing list
> > > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> > > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Yours Truly,
> > > Ramindu Deshapriya.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Yours Truly,
> > > Ramindu Deshapriya.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Yours Truly,
> > > Ramindu Deshapriya.
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> > > http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> > >
> > >
>
>
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-- 
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Ramindu Deshapriya.
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Sun Apr 11 03:15:06 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2010 01:15:06 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Regarding Socnet proposal
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Javed,

It's not a problem if you want to use "Jakt Daven". I just couldn't
match up your proposal to your online name.

-Vinny

On Saturday, April 10, 2010, Javed Khan <tuxcanfly at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
> I have posted and contributed to geeklog and elsewhere on the internet as Jakh Daven. Its an anagram of my name - Javed Khan and there's really no reason, its just my 'internet name'. GSoC related documents have my real name. To avoid any further problems, I will post under my real name from now on.
>
>
> ?I?sincerely?apologize for any confusion this may have caused.
>
>
> Thanks,Javed
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:15 PM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It?s in the list under Javed Khan.
>
> Any reason for the different names btw?? You can reply to the
> contact us list.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Vincent Furia
> [mailto:vfuria at gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 12:27 PM
> To: Geeklog Development; Jakh Daven
> Cc: Geeklog
> Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Regarding Socnet proposal
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> As of "Friday, April 9, 2010 at 16:24:28 UTC", I do
> not see your proposal submitted to http://socghop.appspot.com.
> (I am assuming it was submitted under the name "Jakh Daven".)
>
> Please double check to see that
> you submitted it.
>
> -Vinny
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Jakh Daven <tuxcanfly at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Submitted my final proposal on socnet to the GSoC site with
> mostly cosmetic changes since the last update. Could some one from the team
> just make sure it has reached you?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Randy, your suggestions were very
> helpful.?Thanks Joe, for your patch related to user groups.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> For anyone interested, my proposal is available at?socnet?<http://sites.google.com/site/tuxcanfly/Home/socnet>?and
> it will be regularly updated following my discussions with the team.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Cheers,
>
>
>
>
>
> Jakh
>
>
>
>
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From bijolianabhi at gmail.com  Mon Apr 12 06:32:48 2010
From: bijolianabhi at gmail.com (Abhinav Chittora)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 16:02:48 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Initial screen-shot of Configuration page
Message-ID: <y2qa5f686091004120332n59f19675x221610eee800f204@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I have applied for Google Summer of Code 2010 for "Improving Configuration
UI" idea. I am attaching a snap shot, that will show how the next geeklog
will be looks like. It is just a initial draft, some more hard work is still
going to be done. let me know if you like this or need some improvements.


--With Regard,
Abhinav Chittora <bijolianabhi[at]gmail[dot]com>
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From ironmax at spacequad.com  Mon Apr 12 07:28:24 2010
From: ironmax at spacequad.com (Michael Brusletten)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 07:28:24 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] geeklog-devel Digest, Vol 40, Issue 23
References: <mailman.1184.1271068392.6567.geeklog-devel@lists.geeklog.net>
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Just an observation, if your looking for opinions.  I think that the input boxes should be lined up, instead of left justified.  If you make the descriptions in front of the boxes, right justified, that should take care of the aesthetics.

Michael

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  Hello,

  I have applied for Google Summer of Code 2010 for "Improving Configuration
  UI" idea. I am attaching a snap shot, that will show how the next geeklog
  will be looks like. It is just a initial draft, some more hard work is still
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From bijolianabhi at gmail.com  Mon Apr 12 08:22:07 2010
From: bijolianabhi at gmail.com (Abhinav Chittora)
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 2010 17:52:07 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] geeklog-devel Digest, Vol 40, Issue 23
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It was just a mock up. I will sure do that in implementation :)


--With Regard,
Abhinav Chittora <bijolianabhi[at]gmail[dot]com>


On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 4:58 PM, Michael Brusletten
<ironmax at spacequad.com>wrote:

>  Just an observation, if your looking for opinions.  I think that the
> input boxes should be lined up, instead of left justified.  If you make the
> descriptions in front of the boxes, right justified, that should take care
> of the aesthetics.
>
> Michael
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* geeklog-devel-request at lists.geeklog.net
> *To:* geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> *Sent:* Monday, April 12, 2010 6:33 AM
> *Subject:* geeklog-devel Digest, Vol 40, Issue 23
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> From: Abhinav Chittora <bijolianabhi at gmail.com>
> Subject: [geeklog-devel] Initial screen-shot of Configuration page
> To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net, contact-us at lists.geeklog.net
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> Hello,
>
> I have applied for Google Summer of Code 2010 for "Improving Configuration
> UI" idea. I am attaching a snap shot, that will show how the next geeklog
> will be looks like. It is just a initial draft, some more hard work is
> still
> going to be done. let me know if you like this or need some improvements.
>
>
> --With Regard,
> Abhinav Chittora <bijolianabhi[at]gmail[dot]com>
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From rasade88 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 13 03:20:04 2010
From: rasade88 at gmail.com (Ramindu Deshapriya)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:50:04 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
Message-ID: <i2zc86c05ef1004130020u913c1e1at834863a91a32c2c2@mail.gmail.com>

Hi all,
I was looking into developing a mockup of the e-commerce plugin. For this I
read up on the Plugin Developers Handbook and downloaded the Universal
Plugin Toolkit. Both of them seem to be a bit outdated. The first bit of
evidence I found for this is that they use a simple echo statement in place
of the COM_ouput() function. Would you like these guides to be brought up to
date? Is there some initiative in place to do this?

Just thought I'd ask.

Thanks!

-- 
Yours Truly,
Ramindu Deshapriya.
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From cordiste at free.fr  Tue Apr 13 04:19:08 2010
From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 10:19:08 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
In-Reply-To: <i2zc86c05ef1004130020u913c1e1at834863a91a32c2c2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <i2zc86c05ef1004130020u913c1e1at834863a91a32c2c2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <n2g364575ed1004130119n80706bc4ve12824a48bf86853@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I do not found a COM_ouput() function in the lib-common.php file
version 1.7.0b1.

::Ben

2010/4/13 Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>:
> Hi all,
> I was looking into developing a mockup of the e-commerce plugin. For this I
> read up on the Plugin Developers Handbook and downloaded the Universal
> Plugin Toolkit. Both of them seem to be a bit outdated. The first bit of
> evidence I found for this is that they use a simple echo statement in place
> of the COM_ouput() function. Would you like these guides to be brought up to
> date? Is there some initiative in place to do this?
> Just thought I'd ask.
> Thanks!
>
> --
> Yours Truly,
> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
>


From admin at gedex.web.id  Tue Apr 13 07:26:54 2010
From: admin at gedex.web.id (Akeda Bagus)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:26:54 +0700
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Initial screen-shot of Configuration page
In-Reply-To: <y2qa5f686091004120332n59f19675x221610eee800f204@mail.gmail.com>
References: <y2qa5f686091004120332n59f19675x221610eee800f204@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <z2s57e6ac5b1004130426pb7f6a2aeobacc7a9f3752bae@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Abhinav Chittora
<bijolianabhi at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have applied for Google Summer of Code 2010 for "Improving Configuration
> UI" idea. I am attaching a snap shot, that will show how the next geeklog
> will be looks like. It is just a initial draft, some more hard work is still
> going to be done. let me know if you like this or need some improvements.

Hi Abhinav,

I also applied the same project's idea as you. Figuring from your
snapshot, it's looked pretty good and it seems you're using JQuery UI
for tab and accordion feature. The tabs you've created would replace
configuration sidebar/menu on the left, though. In the default
administration layout, which is 2 layout column, the users will lose
the feel being on adminstation page, because you define one column
layout for configuration page which is inconsistent with overall
administration page layout. My suggestion is let the sidebar/menu
still on the left and you could group the tabs based on fieldset type
(this is my approach on grouping subgroup conf). But the snapshot
you've given clealry desribe your ideas.


-- 
regards,
gedex

blog: http://gedex.web.id


From bijolianabhi at gmail.com  Tue Apr 13 07:44:14 2010
From: bijolianabhi at gmail.com (Abhinav Chittora)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:14:14 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Initial screen-shot of Configuration page
In-Reply-To: <z2s57e6ac5b1004130426pb7f6a2aeobacc7a9f3752bae@mail.gmail.com>
References: <y2qa5f686091004120332n59f19675x221610eee800f204@mail.gmail.com> 
	<z2s57e6ac5b1004130426pb7f6a2aeobacc7a9f3752bae@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <o2za5f686091004130444m2a2fd49amebf2dc5cc545b83f@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for comment :)

Well I am going to change the 2 column layout of geeklog. In admin page
these link will be there to maintain the decorum. There are just quick
access link so that admin can access these link quickly.
These link will be in accordion so that it will use less space so that more
space will be available to plugin block and registered user's menu. Hope you
are getting me. Let me know if there is still confusion.

thanks again,

--With Regard,
Abhinav Chittora <bijolianabhi[at]gmail[dot]com>
IRC Nick: Abhinav1


On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Akeda Bagus <admin at gedex.web.id> wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Abhinav Chittora
> <bijolianabhi at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have applied for Google Summer of Code 2010 for "Improving
> Configuration
> > UI" idea. I am attaching a snap shot, that will show how the next geeklog
> > will be looks like. It is just a initial draft, some more hard work is
> still
> > going to be done. let me know if you like this or need some improvements.
>
> Hi Abhinav,
>
> I also applied the same project's idea as you. Figuring from your
> snapshot, it's looked pretty good and it seems you're using JQuery UI
> for tab and accordion feature. The tabs you've created would replace
> configuration sidebar/menu on the left, though. In the default
> administration layout, which is 2 layout column, the users will lose
> the feel being on adminstation page, because you define one column
> layout for configuration page which is inconsistent with overall
> administration page layout. My suggestion is let the sidebar/menu
> still on the left and you could group the tabs based on fieldset type
> (this is my approach on grouping subgroup conf). But the snapshot
> you've given clealry desribe your ideas.
>
>
> --
> regards,
> gedex
>
> blog: http://gedex.web.id
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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From yankees26an at gmail.com  Tue Apr 13 09:17:05 2010
From: yankees26an at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?4bmoz67isaXItc6v4bmlyp/JkeKImg==?=)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 09:17:05 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Initial screen-shot of Configuration page
In-Reply-To: <o2za5f686091004130444m2a2fd49amebf2dc5cc545b83f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <y2qa5f686091004120332n59f19675x221610eee800f204@mail.gmail.com> 
	<z2s57e6ac5b1004130426pb7f6a2aeobacc7a9f3752bae@mail.gmail.com> 
	<o2za5f686091004130444m2a2fd49amebf2dc5cc545b83f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <g2r7aaf88901004130617lc606bc41z7bdd2e0238b678bc@mail.gmail.com>

I agree with Akeda, the administration options should be a sidebar. Geeklog
does not have so many configuration options to warrant tabs(like forum
softwares). It will only make things harder to find imho.

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Abhinav Chittora <bijolianabhi at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks for comment :)
>
> Well I am going to change the 2 column layout of geeklog. In admin page
> these link will be there to maintain the decorum. There are just quick
> access link so that admin can access these link quickly.
> These link will be in accordion so that it will use less space so that more
> space will be available to plugin block and registered user's menu. Hope you
> are getting me. Let me know if there is still confusion.
>
> thanks again,
>
> --With Regard,
> Abhinav Chittora <bijolianabhi[at]gmail[dot]com>
> IRC Nick: Abhinav1
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Akeda Bagus <admin at gedex.web.id> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Abhinav Chittora
>> <bijolianabhi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I have applied for Google Summer of Code 2010 for "Improving
>> Configuration
>> > UI" idea. I am attaching a snap shot, that will show how the next
>> geeklog
>> > will be looks like. It is just a initial draft, some more hard work is
>> still
>> > going to be done. let me know if you like this or need some
>> improvements.
>>
>> Hi Abhinav,
>>
>> I also applied the same project's idea as you. Figuring from your
>> snapshot, it's looked pretty good and it seems you're using JQuery UI
>> for tab and accordion feature. The tabs you've created would replace
>> configuration sidebar/menu on the left, though. In the default
>> administration layout, which is 2 layout column, the users will lose
>> the feel being on adminstation page, because you define one column
>> layout for configuration page which is inconsistent with overall
>> administration page layout. My suggestion is let the sidebar/menu
>> still on the left and you could group the tabs based on fieldset type
>> (this is my approach on grouping subgroup conf). But the snapshot
>> you've given clealry desribe your ideas.
>>
>>
>> --
>> regards,
>> gedex
>>
>> blog: http://gedex.web.id
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
>


-- 
Warmly,

Stanislav
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From abhi.nitt at gmail.com  Tue Apr 13 11:34:31 2010
From: abhi.nitt at gmail.com (Abhishek Shrivastava)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:04:31 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Initial screen-shot of Configuration page
In-Reply-To: <o2za5f686091004130444m2a2fd49amebf2dc5cc545b83f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <y2qa5f686091004120332n59f19675x221610eee800f204@mail.gmail.com> 
	<z2s57e6ac5b1004130426pb7f6a2aeobacc7a9f3752bae@mail.gmail.com> 
	<o2za5f686091004130444m2a2fd49amebf2dc5cc545b83f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <g2x2b0bcc381004130834ueaf04858q5182fda10a852fe3@mail.gmail.com>

I like your page design but as of now , it doesn't look compatible with the
current version of Geeklog which supports 2-column layout. It would be nicer
if you can remove the upper tabs and keep the 2-column layout structure.

However, if you're going to change the 2 column layout of Geeklog then you'd
have to take on lots of redesigning including the administrator page
template. This will increase your GSOC work.


On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 5:14 PM, Abhinav Chittora <bijolianabhi at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks for comment :)
>
> Well I am going to change the 2 column layout of geeklog. In admin page
> these link will be there to maintain the decorum. There are just quick
> access link so that admin can access these link quickly.
> These link will be in accordion so that it will use less space so that more
> space will be available to plugin block and registered user's menu. Hope you
> are getting me. Let me know if there is still confusion.
>
> thanks again,
>
> --With Regard,
> Abhinav Chittora <bijolianabhi[at]gmail[dot]com>
> IRC Nick: Abhinav1
>
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Akeda Bagus <admin at gedex.web.id> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Abhinav Chittora
>> <bijolianabhi at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I have applied for Google Summer of Code 2010 for "Improving
>> Configuration
>> > UI" idea. I am attaching a snap shot, that will show how the next
>> geeklog
>> > will be looks like. It is just a initial draft, some more hard work is
>> still
>> > going to be done. let me know if you like this or need some
>> improvements.
>>
>> Hi Abhinav,
>>
>> I also applied the same project's idea as you. Figuring from your
>> snapshot, it's looked pretty good and it seems you're using JQuery UI
>> for tab and accordion feature. The tabs you've created would replace
>> configuration sidebar/menu on the left, though. In the default
>> administration layout, which is 2 layout column, the users will lose
>> the feel being on adminstation page, because you define one column
>> layout for configuration page which is inconsistent with overall
>> administration page layout. My suggestion is let the sidebar/menu
>> still on the left and you could group the tabs based on fieldset type
>> (this is my approach on grouping subgroup conf). But the snapshot
>> you've given clealry desribe your ideas.
>>
>>
>> --
>> regards,
>> gedex
>>
>> blog: http://gedex.web.id
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
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From bijolianabhi at gmail.com  Tue Apr 13 11:41:54 2010
From: bijolianabhi at gmail.com (Abhinav Chittora)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:11:54 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Initial screen-shot of Configuration page
In-Reply-To: <g2r7aaf88901004130617lc606bc41z7bdd2e0238b678bc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <y2qa5f686091004120332n59f19675x221610eee800f204@mail.gmail.com> 
	<z2s57e6ac5b1004130426pb7f6a2aeobacc7a9f3752bae@mail.gmail.com> 
	<o2za5f686091004130444m2a2fd49amebf2dc5cc545b83f@mail.gmail.com> 
	<g2r7aaf88901004130617lc606bc41z7bdd2e0238b678bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <z2la5f686091004130841l67543a7w7150a14684cba404@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks for reviewing the snapshot, Your comments lead me to do some more
work on the design part. let the user choose that geeklog admin page should
have 2 column layout or 1 column layout. There will be a option to choose
this way or the traditional way. And there is no issue of work, We'll be
payed for work. As I think I can easily cover this template task also. There
will be no problem with this, after all we have 3 months of time to do make
it possible.  :)

Thanks again :)


--With Regard,
Abhinav Chittora <bijolianabhi[at]gmail[dot]com>


On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 6:47 PM, ????????? <yankees26an at gmail.com> wrote:

> I agree with Akeda, the administration options should be a sidebar. Geeklog
> does not have so many configuration options to warrant tabs(like forum
> softwares). It will only make things harder to find imho.
>
>
> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 7:44 AM, Abhinav Chittora <bijolianabhi at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Thanks for comment :)
>>
>> Well I am going to change the 2 column layout of geeklog. In admin page
>> these link will be there to maintain the decorum. There are just quick
>> access link so that admin can access these link quickly.
>> These link will be in accordion so that it will use less space so that
>> more space will be available to plugin block and registered user's menu.
>> Hope you are getting me. Let me know if there is still confusion.
>>
>> thanks again,
>>
>> --With Regard,
>> Abhinav Chittora <bijolianabhi[at]gmail[dot]com>
>> IRC Nick: Abhinav1
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 4:56 PM, Akeda Bagus <admin at gedex.web.id> wrote:
>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 12, 2010 at 5:32 PM, Abhinav Chittora
>>> <bijolianabhi at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > Hello,
>>> >
>>> > I have applied for Google Summer of Code 2010 for "Improving
>>> Configuration
>>> > UI" idea. I am attaching a snap shot, that will show how the next
>>> geeklog
>>> > will be looks like. It is just a initial draft, some more hard work is
>>> still
>>> > going to be done. let me know if you like this or need some
>>> improvements.
>>>
>>> Hi Abhinav,
>>>
>>> I also applied the same project's idea as you. Figuring from your
>>> snapshot, it's looked pretty good and it seems you're using JQuery UI
>>> for tab and accordion feature. The tabs you've created would replace
>>> configuration sidebar/menu on the left, though. In the default
>>> administration layout, which is 2 layout column, the users will lose
>>> the feel being on adminstation page, because you define one column
>>> layout for configuration page which is inconsistent with overall
>>> administration page layout. My suggestion is let the sidebar/menu
>>> still on the left and you could group the tabs based on fieldset type
>>> (this is my approach on grouping subgroup conf). But the snapshot
>>> you've given clealry desribe your ideas.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> regards,
>>> gedex
>>>
>>> blog: http://gedex.web.id
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Warmly,
>
> Stanislav
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Tue Apr 13 12:06:46 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 12:06:46 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Initial screen-shot of Configuration page
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3571B5@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>



> There will be no problem with this, after all we have 3 months of time 
> to do make it possible.? :) 


Famous last words :-)  Never underestimate the time it will take you to fiddle with UI enhancements.





From cordiste at free.fr  Tue Apr 13 12:37:10 2010
From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 18:37:10 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Geeklog 1.7.0b1 is out - Help wanted
In-Reply-To: <r2y7aaf88901004042038o3624038ekf0debdc1ab9e0b94@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100404144840.855208462@smtp.haun-online.de> 
	<20100404232326.7a888149@archlinux.cl>
	<r2y7aaf88901004042038o3624038ekf0debdc1ab9e0b94@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <k2y364575ed1004130937u135edb0bx7b40c6d955c7942c@mail.gmail.com>

I see a search issue.

Make a search for Daily Digest and on page result I try a Sort by
Date. This give this url
http://www.geeklog.net/search.php?query=Daily+Digest&keyType=phrase&type=all&mode=search&results=30&order=date&direction=desc

and a "Unfortunately, an error has occurred rendering this page.
Please try again later."

::Ben

2010/4/5 ????????? <yankees26an at gmail.com>:
> Thanks Mat?as :)
>
> 2010/4/4 Mat?as Hern?ndez <msdark at archlinux.cl>:
>> El Sun, 4 Apr 2010 16:48:40 +0200
>> "Dirk Haun" <dirk at haun-online.de> escribi?:
>>> For those who haven't seen it yet: Geeklog 1.7.0 beta 1 is now
>>> available for download:
>>>
>>> ? ? http://www.geeklog.net/article.php/geeklog-1.7.0b1
>>>
>>> Since this is a beta version, we could use some help in testing it.
>>> Any volunteers? The new Postgres support would be of particular
>>> interest, as well as the MS SQL support (which, traditionally,
>>> doesn't get a lot of love). But we're really interested in anything
>>> that doesn't work as it should. Patches are also welcome, which may
>>> be of interest to our potential GSoC students ;-)
>>>
>>> Speaking of which: Many thanks to those who already sent patches. We
>>> haven't been able to include all of them in this release yet - but
>>> there's always a next version.
>>>
>>> bye, Dirk
>>>
>>>
>> Testing with PostgreSQL...
>> _______________________________________________
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>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Warmly,
>
> Stanislav
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>


From dirk at haun-online.de  Tue Apr 13 12:50:12 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:50:12 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] [contact-us] Initial screen-shot of
	Configuration page
In-Reply-To: <y2qa5f686091004120332n59f19675x221610eee800f204@mail.gmail.com>
References: <y2qa5f686091004120332n59f19675x221610eee800f204@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100413165013.801583714@smtp.haun-online.de>

Abhinav Chittora wrote:

>I have applied for Google Summer of Code 2010 for "Improving Configuration
>UI" idea. I am attaching a snap shot, that will show how the next geeklog
>will be looks like. It is just a initial draft, some more hard work is still
>going to be done. let me know if you like this or need some improvements.

I can't remember who I was discussing this with, but one of the reasons
the current UI looks like it does is that we tried to avoid having too
many tabs in a row.

You seem to suggest a tab for each plugin config. So what happens when
you have like 25 plugins installed? We certainly don't want UI
abominations like scrollable tab bars or those awful Windows dialogs
that have several rows of tabs.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From dirk at haun-online.de  Tue Apr 13 12:59:59 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 17:59:59 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
In-Reply-To: <i2zc86c05ef1004130020u913c1e1at834863a91a32c2c2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <i2zc86c05ef1004130020u913c1e1at834863a91a32c2c2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100413165959.1393391798@smtp.haun-online.de>

Ramindu Deshapriya wrote:

>I was looking into developing a mockup of the e-commerce plugin. For this I
>read up on the Plugin Developers Handbook and downloaded the Universal
>Plugin Toolkit. Both of them seem to be a bit outdated.

Yes, they are (it even says so on the wiki). I wouldn't use the
Universal Toolkit any more - it even requires register_globals to be
"on", at least for some things.

If you're looking for a current plugin template, take one of the bundled
plugins or try the Plugin Generator.


>Would you like these guides to be brought up to
>date? Is there some initiative in place to do this?

Of course we would welcome any help in updating them :)

My suggestions would be to get a wiki account and start doing it. There
are some hints buried on the various wiki pages pointing out that the
information is outdated and where to find more current information
(usually in lib-plugins.php). Incorporating that information would be a
good start. It may sometimes require a rewrite of an entire page, but
that shouldn't stop anyone.

As usual, documentation is the part that nobody really wants to do. So
any help there is greatly appreciated.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.haun-online.de/
http://spam.tinyweb.net/



From bijolianabhi at gmail.com  Tue Apr 13 13:10:22 2010
From: bijolianabhi at gmail.com (Abhinav Chittora)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 22:40:22 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] [contact-us] Initial screen-shot of
	Configuration page
In-Reply-To: <20100413165013.801583714@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <y2qa5f686091004120332n59f19675x221610eee800f204@mail.gmail.com> 
	<20100413165013.801583714@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <s2sa5f686091004131010g1ae35644k425f459b934b4b42@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,
I think I should mention my Link id also. That is "bijolianabhi". I got the
point suggested by Dirk. Its too difficult to handle tabs, if we have more
plugins installed. Now, I have to rethink about this. I can summarize like
this:-

1. There is no need to change layout ( 2 column layout is okey)
2. Tabs will be difficult to handle, if we have more plugins installed.



--With Regard,
Abhinav Chittora <bijolianabhi[at]gmail[dot]com>
IRC Nick Abhinav1
GSoC Link Id: bijolianabhi



On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:20 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:

> Abhinav Chittora wrote:
>
> >I have applied for Google Summer of Code 2010 for "Improving Configuration
> >UI" idea. I am attaching a snap shot, that will show how the next geeklog
> >will be looks like. It is just a initial draft, some more hard work is
> still
> >going to be done. let me know if you like this or need some improvements.
>
> I can't remember who I was discussing this with, but one of the reasons
> the current UI looks like it does is that we tried to avoid having too
> many tabs in a row.
>
> You seem to suggest a tab for each plugin config. So what happens when
> you have like 25 plugins installed? We certainly don't want UI
> abominations like scrollable tab bars or those awful Windows dialogs
> that have several rows of tabs.
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.geeklog.net/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
> _______________________________________________
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From maksymus007 at gmail.com  Tue Apr 13 13:13:16 2010
From: maksymus007 at gmail.com (Maksymus007)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 19:13:16 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] unsunbscibe
Message-ID: <o2nf8ba097a1004131013ha23d8232q9c308ef8188c3aa2@mail.gmail.com>




From admin at gedex.web.id  Tue Apr 13 19:21:55 2010
From: admin at gedex.web.id (Akeda Bagus)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 06:21:55 +0700
Subject: [geeklog-devel] [contact-us] Initial screen-shot of
	Configuration page
In-Reply-To: <20100413165013.801583714@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <y2qa5f686091004120332n59f19675x221610eee800f204@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100413165013.801583714@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <g2k57e6ac5b1004131621gb61da6cdhc29cfc7f995e8734@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:50 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
> I can't remember who I was discussing this with, but one of the reasons
> the current UI looks like it does is that we tried to avoid having too
> many tabs in a row.

Probably it was me. As you've suggested to make a guidelines to limit
the tabs to 5 or 7.
But I gave another solution by picking up a "more tabs" dropdown,
which happens when the tabs' width
overflow (the tabs-width' container). This could be done using JavaScript.

-- 
regards,
gedex

blog: http://gedex.web.id


From rasade88 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 14 05:26:43 2010
From: rasade88 at gmail.com (Ramindu Deshapriya)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:56:43 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
In-Reply-To: <20100413165959.1393391798@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <i2zc86c05ef1004130020u913c1e1at834863a91a32c2c2@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100413165959.1393391798@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <n2wc86c05ef1004140226q100ce970lbc59d44c6f2cbcb7@mail.gmail.com>

Ok, diving into it!
I will inform the changes I make so that you can review them. First will be
to replace the echo statements at the end of each block of code with
COM_output.. ;)

Also I notice that files from the latest 1.7.0b1 and from the repository
have the heading 'Geeklog 1.6' in the opening comments block... is this
something wrong with me or has it not been updated?

Thanks!

On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 10:29 PM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:

> Ramindu Deshapriya wrote:
>
> >I was looking into developing a mockup of the e-commerce plugin. For this
> I
> >read up on the Plugin Developers Handbook and downloaded the Universal
> >Plugin Toolkit. Both of them seem to be a bit outdated.
>
> Yes, they are (it even says so on the wiki). I wouldn't use the
> Universal Toolkit any more - it even requires register_globals to be
> "on", at least for some things.
>
> If you're looking for a current plugin template, take one of the bundled
> plugins or try the Plugin Generator.
>
>
> >Would you like these guides to be brought up to
> >date? Is there some initiative in place to do this?
>
> Of course we would welcome any help in updating them :)
>
> My suggestions would be to get a wiki account and start doing it. There
> are some hints buried on the various wiki pages pointing out that the
> information is outdated and where to find more current information
> (usually in lib-plugins.php). Incorporating that information would be a
> good start. It may sometimes require a rewrite of an entire page, but
> that shouldn't stop anyone.
>
> As usual, documentation is the part that nobody really wants to do. So
> any help there is greatly appreciated.
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.haun-online.de/
> http://spam.tinyweb.net/
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>



-- 
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Ramindu Deshapriya.
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Apr 14 08:35:40 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:35:40 +0100
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
In-Reply-To: <n2wc86c05ef1004140226q100ce970lbc59d44c6f2cbcb7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <i2zc86c05ef1004130020u913c1e1at834863a91a32c2c2@mail.gmail.com>
	<20100413165959.1393391798@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<n2wc86c05ef1004140226q100ce970lbc59d44c6f2cbcb7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20100414123540.218537540@smtp.haun-online.de>

Ramindu Deshapriya wrote:

>Also I notice that files from the latest 1.7.0b1 and from the repository
>have the heading 'Geeklog 1.6' in the opening comments block... is this
>something wrong with me or has it not been updated?

The decision to rename 1.6.2 to 1.7.0 came rather late in the process,
so these simply haven't been updated. I don't consider this a priority
and only update the version number when I have to touch the file for
some other reason anyway.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.haun-online.de/
http://geeklog.info/



From cordiste at free.fr  Wed Apr 14 08:45:53 2010
From: cordiste at free.fr (cordiste)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 14:45:53 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
In-Reply-To: <n2g364575ed1004130119n80706bc4ve12824a48bf86853@mail.gmail.com>
References: <i2zc86c05ef1004130020u913c1e1at834863a91a32c2c2@mail.gmail.com> 
	<n2g364575ed1004130119n80706bc4ve12824a48bf86853@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <t2s364575ed1004140545ueddba130z2eeb3b0b11606f83@mail.gmail.com>

oups  I mistyped the function name.

Sorry for this. I need a vacation...

::Ben

2010/4/13 cordiste <cordiste at free.fr>:
> Hello,
>
> I do not found a COM_ouput() function in the lib-common.php file
> version 1.7.0b1.
>
> ::Ben
>
> 2010/4/13 Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>:
>> Hi all,
>> I was looking into developing a mockup of the e-commerce plugin. For this I
>> read up on the Plugin Developers Handbook and downloaded the Universal
>> Plugin Toolkit. Both of them seem to be a bit outdated. The first bit of
>> evidence I found for this is that they use a simple echo statement in place
>> of the COM_ouput() function. Would you like these guides to be brought up to
>> date? Is there some initiative in place to do this?
>> Just thought I'd ask.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Yours Truly,
>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>


From rasade88 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 14 12:35:41 2010
From: rasade88 at gmail.com (Ramindu Deshapriya)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 22:05:41 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
In-Reply-To: <t2s364575ed1004140545ueddba130z2eeb3b0b11606f83@mail.gmail.com>
References: <i2zc86c05ef1004130020u913c1e1at834863a91a32c2c2@mail.gmail.com>
	<n2g364575ed1004130119n80706bc4ve12824a48bf86853@mail.gmail.com>
	<t2s364575ed1004140545ueddba130z2eeb3b0b11606f83@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <t2vc86c05ef1004140935m12249972saeb9183ba535f9f7@mail.gmail.com>

Dirk, I totally understand. I just thought through some form of sheer bad
luck I might be downloading the wrong tarball as Ben said something about
COM_output not being there as well. Anyway, I guess that's all cleared up
now!
Thanks!

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:15 PM, cordiste <cordiste at free.fr> wrote:

> oups  I mistyped the function name.
>
> Sorry for this. I need a vacation...
>
> ::Ben
>
> 2010/4/13 cordiste <cordiste at free.fr>:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I do not found a COM_ouput() function in the lib-common.php file
> > version 1.7.0b1.
> >
> > ::Ben
> >
> > 2010/4/13 Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>:
> >> Hi all,
> >> I was looking into developing a mockup of the e-commerce plugin. For
> this I
> >> read up on the Plugin Developers Handbook and downloaded the Universal
> >> Plugin Toolkit. Both of them seem to be a bit outdated. The first bit of
> >> evidence I found for this is that they use a simple echo statement in
> place
> >> of the COM_ouput() function. Would you like these guides to be brought
> up to
> >> date? Is there some initiative in place to do this?
> >> Just thought I'd ask.
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Yours Truly,
> >> Ramindu Deshapriya.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> geeklog-devel mailing list
> >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> >>
> >>
> >
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>



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From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Wed Apr 14 12:57:24 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2010 12:57:24 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3571C6@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>

I wrote a boilerplate plugin to show off how you can write a multi-db
supported plugin when I did the MSSQL port.

Not sure if Stan wanted to update it to include PGSQL support as well..
but it might be a good start for a skeleton plugin..

 

http://www.geeklog.net/filemgmt/index.php?id=757&query=boilerplate

 

 

 

 

From: Ramindu Deshapriya [mailto:rasade88 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:36 PM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date

 

Dirk, I totally understand. I just thought through some form of sheer
bad luck I might be downloading the wrong tarball as Ben said something
about COM_output not being there as well. Anyway, I guess that's all
cleared up now!

Thanks!

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:15 PM, cordiste <cordiste at free.fr> wrote:

oups  I mistyped the function name.

Sorry for this. I need a vacation...

::Ben

2010/4/13 cordiste <cordiste at free.fr>:

> Hello,
>
> I do not found a COM_ouput() function in the lib-common.php file
> version 1.7.0b1.
>
> ::Ben
>
> 2010/4/13 Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>:
>> Hi all,
>> I was looking into developing a mockup of the e-commerce plugin. For
this I
>> read up on the Plugin Developers Handbook and downloaded the
Universal
>> Plugin Toolkit. Both of them seem to be a bit outdated. The first bit
of
>> evidence I found for this is that they use a simple echo statement in
place
>> of the COM_ouput() function. Would you like these guides to be
brought up to
>> date? Is there some initiative in place to do this?
>> Just thought I'd ask.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Yours Truly,
>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>
_______________________________________________
geeklog-devel mailing list
geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
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From geeklog.nwo at neverbox.com  Fri Apr 16 09:52:33 2010
From: geeklog.nwo at neverbox.com (Lior)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:52:33 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GPLv3
Message-ID: <20100416.135233.562.5@LWC>

I know 
http://eight.pairlist.net/pipermail/geeklog-devel/2007-June/thread.html 
is old but I thought some things about it should be clear in case it ever 
happens:

1) The Affero General Public License 3 is just GPLv3 + the requirement to 
keep a "download this site's (PHP/THTML/etc.) source" link, if such link 
existed originally. Since such doesn't exist originally in Geeklog, 
there's no point choosing AGPL over the standard GPL.
2) Christian Weiske also recommended CC licenses. Well, the CC organization 
itself strongly asks not to use their licenses for softwares.
3) Dirk said he'd pick something BSDish now. But that would only solve 1 
issue out of 2.

Assuming the two main issues are:
1) Keeping the "powered by Geeklog" link.
2) Allowing plugin authors not to release source code and/or to forbid 
re-distribtions.

Then:

1) No mainstream free license I've ever heard of orders to keep a copyright 
right in the binaries/online sites. Ok, except CC, which lets the author 
define where to put their credits, but like I said it isn't meant for 
softwares. Even BSD only orders to put copyrights in the source code 
and/or documentation.

2) CC can forbid re-distribtions, but CC shouldn't be used for softwares. 
BSD can forbid releasing source code. Legally, that's great. Technically, 
it's meaningless with PHP code which is just source code. In actuality, 
is there a site out there that mass re-distributes pay plugins? If no, 
then it's not a real problem. Private re-distributions would continue 
even with BSD as long as PHP is used.

However, GPLv3 does have something new no one talks about - section 7. 
Additional Terms. Item b) is relevant to 2) while item c) is relevant to 
2):

1) Item b) allows "Requiring preservation of specified reasonable legal 
notices or author attributions in that material or in the Appropriate 
Legal Notices displayed by works containing it;"
When I say no one talks about section 7, I mean even the official GNU site 
pretends like this section doesn't exist. It's only possible to find it 
in sites that just quote the license. Since no one 
talks about it, it's not clear whether the author can decide if "that 
material or in the Appropriate Legal Notices" equals the credit line in 
online sites. Any thoughts about it?

2) Item c) allows "requiring that modified versions of such material be 
marked in reasonable ways as different from the original version". This 
gives a huge benefit for paid plugins. Like it or not, GPLv2 does not 
support specifying "official" versions.  Niether does GPLv3. But GPLv3 
does let you specify "original" versions. Of course, this leads us back 
to 1). If the word "original" is hidden somehwere in LICENSE.txt, then it 
wouldn't really change anything. But if the online site's footer MUST 
state "this isn't the original plugin", it's a different story and will 
cause surfers to find the original plugin, as long as they understand 
"original" probably means "official".


From joe at ThrowingDice.com  Fri Apr 16 09:52:09 2010
From: joe at ThrowingDice.com (Joe Mucchiello)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 09:52:09 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GPLv3
In-Reply-To: <20100416.135233.562.5@LWC>
References: <20100416.135233.562.5@LWC>
Message-ID: <0L0Z007OJ2J3MKB0@mta3.srv.hcvlny.cv.net>

At 09:52 AM 4/16/2010, Lior wrote:
>1) Keeping the "powered by Geeklog" link.

I don't think this was ever an issue at all.

>2) Allowing plugin authors not to release source code and/or to forbid
>re-distribtions.

This was part of the reason Dirk mentioned they should have gone BSD 
originally.

Unless there is a specific value to moving to GPLv3, I don't think 
it's worth anyone's time to put the effort in.

----
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Throwing Dice Games
http://www.throwingdice.com 



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From rasade88 at gmail.com  Fri Apr 16 14:09:19 2010
From: rasade88 at gmail.com (Ramindu Deshapriya)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 23:39:19 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
In-Reply-To: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3571C6@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3571C6@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
Message-ID: <t2lc86c05ef1004161109oef74ebf9x7a2c936854b70e3b@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Randy! I'm not sure about replacing the existing skeleton plugin,
will have to discuss that with Dirk I guess. Right now I'm concentrating on
the documentation itself.
Thanks again!

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca>wrote:

>  I wrote a boilerplate plugin to show off how you can write a multi-db
> supported plugin when I did the MSSQL port.
>
> Not sure if Stan wanted to update it to include PGSQL support as well.. but
> it might be a good start for a skeleton plugin..
>
>
>
> http://www.geeklog.net/filemgmt/index.php?id=757&query=boilerplate
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ramindu Deshapriya [mailto:rasade88 at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:36 PM
> *To:* Geeklog Development
> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
>
>
>
> Dirk, I totally understand. I just thought through some form of sheer bad
> luck I might be downloading the wrong tarball as Ben said something about
> COM_output not being there as well. Anyway, I guess that's all cleared up
> now!
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:15 PM, cordiste <cordiste at free.fr> wrote:
>
> oups  I mistyped the function name.
>
> Sorry for this. I need a vacation...
>
> ::Ben
>
> 2010/4/13 cordiste <cordiste at free.fr>:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I do not found a COM_ouput() function in the lib-common.php file
> > version 1.7.0b1.
> >
> > ::Ben
> >
> > 2010/4/13 Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>:
> >> Hi all,
> >> I was looking into developing a mockup of the e-commerce plugin. For
> this I
> >> read up on the Plugin Developers Handbook and downloaded the Universal
> >> Plugin Toolkit. Both of them seem to be a bit outdated. The first bit of
> >> evidence I found for this is that they use a simple echo statement in
> place
> >> of the COM_ouput() function. Would you like these guides to be brought
> up to
> >> date? Is there some initiative in place to do this?
> >> Just thought I'd ask.
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Yours Truly,
> >> Ramindu Deshapriya.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> geeklog-devel mailing list
> >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> >>
> >>
> >
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
>
>
>
> --
> Yours Truly,
> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
>


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From yankees26an at gmail.com  Fri Apr 16 15:21:01 2010
From: yankees26an at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?4bmoz67isaXItc6v4bmlyp/JkeKImg==?=)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:21:01 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
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References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3571C6@nex-pluto.nextide.ca> 
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Hey, Ramindu,

Attached the pgSQL sample class(which is just the MySQL class, barely
ported), and the pgSQL install file. Let's not forget that we suppost that
too :)  I guess this needs to be included in the plugin files(Randy)

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks Randy! I'm not sure about replacing the existing skeleton plugin,
> will have to discuss that with Dirk I guess. Right now I'm concentrating on
> the documentation itself.
> Thanks again!
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca>wrote:
>
>>  I wrote a boilerplate plugin to show off how you can write a multi-db
>> supported plugin when I did the MSSQL port.
>>
>> Not sure if Stan wanted to update it to include PGSQL support as well..
>> but it might be a good start for a skeleton plugin..
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.geeklog.net/filemgmt/index.php?id=757&query=boilerplate
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ramindu Deshapriya [mailto:rasade88 at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:36 PM
>> *To:* Geeklog Development
>> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
>>
>>
>>
>> Dirk, I totally understand. I just thought through some form of sheer bad
>> luck I might be downloading the wrong tarball as Ben said something about
>> COM_output not being there as well. Anyway, I guess that's all cleared up
>> now!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:15 PM, cordiste <cordiste at free.fr> wrote:
>>
>> oups  I mistyped the function name.
>>
>> Sorry for this. I need a vacation...
>>
>> ::Ben
>>
>> 2010/4/13 cordiste <cordiste at free.fr>:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I do not found a COM_ouput() function in the lib-common.php file
>> > version 1.7.0b1.
>> >
>> > ::Ben
>> >
>> > 2010/4/13 Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>:
>> >> Hi all,
>> >> I was looking into developing a mockup of the e-commerce plugin. For
>> this I
>> >> read up on the Plugin Developers Handbook and downloaded the Universal
>> >> Plugin Toolkit. Both of them seem to be a bit outdated. The first bit
>> of
>> >> evidence I found for this is that they use a simple echo statement in
>> place
>> >> of the COM_ouput() function. Would you like these guides to be brought
>> up to
>> >> date? Is there some initiative in place to do this?
>> >> Just thought I'd ask.
>> >> Thanks!
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Yours Truly,
>> >> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yours Truly,
>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Yours Truly,
> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Fri Apr 16 15:50:14 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:50:14 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3571DB@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>

If someone likes, they can graciously take over the maintenance of the boilerplate plugin.. my official blessings etc etc.

 

 

 

From: ????????? [mailto:yankees26an at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 3:21 PM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date

 

Hey, Ramindu, 

 

Attached the pgSQL sample class(which is just the MySQL class, barely ported), and the pgSQL install file. Let's not forget that we suppost that too :)  I guess this needs to be included in the plugin files(Randy)

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Randy! I'm not sure about replacing the existing skeleton plugin, will have to discuss that with Dirk I guess. Right now I'm concentrating on the documentation itself.

Thanks again!

 

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca> wrote:

I wrote a boilerplate plugin to show off how you can write a multi-db supported plugin when I did the MSSQL port.

Not sure if Stan wanted to update it to include PGSQL support as well.. but it might be a good start for a skeleton plugin..

 

http://www.geeklog.net/filemgmt/index.php?id=757&query=boilerplate

 

 

 

 

From: Ramindu Deshapriya [mailto:rasade88 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:36 PM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date

 

Dirk, I totally understand. I just thought through some form of sheer bad luck I might be downloading the wrong tarball as Ben said something about COM_output not being there as well. Anyway, I guess that's all cleared up now!

Thanks!

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:15 PM, cordiste <cordiste at free.fr> wrote:

oups  I mistyped the function name.

Sorry for this. I need a vacation...

::Ben

2010/4/13 cordiste <cordiste at free.fr>:

> Hello,
>
> I do not found a COM_ouput() function in the lib-common.php file
> version 1.7.0b1.
>
> ::Ben
>
> 2010/4/13 Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>:
>> Hi all,
>> I was looking into developing a mockup of the e-commerce plugin. For this I
>> read up on the Plugin Developers Handbook and downloaded the Universal
>> Plugin Toolkit. Both of them seem to be a bit outdated. The first bit of
>> evidence I found for this is that they use a simple echo statement in place
>> of the COM_ouput() function. Would you like these guides to be brought up to
>> date? Is there some initiative in place to do this?
>> Just thought I'd ask.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Yours Truly,
>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>
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http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel




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Yours Truly,
Ramindu Deshapriya.


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From tuxcanfly at gmail.com  Sat Apr 17 00:56:47 2010
From: tuxcanfly at gmail.com (Javed Khan)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:26:47 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
In-Reply-To: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3571DB@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3571DB@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
Message-ID: <y2t8cceeceb1004162156wea973ceax866b8f2c0d586d1d@mail.gmail.com>

Randy, I'm on it! Let me update the plugin to work with the latest version
of geeklog. autoninstall.php seems to be the obvious first step. I am also
following Ramindu's documentation on the wiki.

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca>wrote:

>  If someone likes, they can graciously take over the maintenance of the
> boilerplate plugin.. my official blessings etc etc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ????????? [mailto:yankees26an at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 3:21 PM
>
> *To:* Geeklog Development
> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
>
>
>
> Hey, Ramindu,
>
>
>
> Attached the pgSQL sample class(which is just the MySQL class, barely
> ported), and the pgSQL install file. Let's not forget that we suppost that
> too :)  I guess this needs to be included in the plugin files(Randy)
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Randy! I'm not sure about replacing the existing skeleton plugin,
> will have to discuss that with Dirk I guess. Right now I'm concentrating on
> the documentation itself.
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca>
> wrote:
>
> I wrote a boilerplate plugin to show off how you can write a multi-db
> supported plugin when I did the MSSQL port.
>
> Not sure if Stan wanted to update it to include PGSQL support as well.. but
> it might be a good start for a skeleton plugin..
>
>
>
> http://www.geeklog.net/filemgmt/index.php?id=757&query=boilerplate
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ramindu Deshapriya [mailto:rasade88 at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:36 PM
> *To:* Geeklog Development
> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
>
>
>
> Dirk, I totally understand. I just thought through some form of sheer bad
> luck I might be downloading the wrong tarball as Ben said something about
> COM_output not being there as well. Anyway, I guess that's all cleared up
> now!
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:15 PM, cordiste <cordiste at free.fr> wrote:
>
> oups  I mistyped the function name.
>
> Sorry for this. I need a vacation...
>
> ::Ben
>
> 2010/4/13 cordiste <cordiste at free.fr>:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I do not found a COM_ouput() function in the lib-common.php file
> > version 1.7.0b1.
> >
> > ::Ben
> >
> > 2010/4/13 Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>:
> >> Hi all,
> >> I was looking into developing a mockup of the e-commerce plugin. For
> this I
> >> read up on the Plugin Developers Handbook and downloaded the Universal
> >> Plugin Toolkit. Both of them seem to be a bit outdated. The first bit of
> >> evidence I found for this is that they use a simple echo statement in
> place
> >> of the COM_ouput() function. Would you like these guides to be brought
> up to
> >> date? Is there some initiative in place to do this?
> >> Just thought I'd ask.
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Yours Truly,
> >> Ramindu Deshapriya.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> geeklog-devel mailing list
> >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> >>
> >>
> >
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
>
>
>
> --
> Yours Truly,
> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
>
>
>
> --
> Yours Truly,
> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>
>
>
>
> --
> Warmly,
>
> Stanislav
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From rasade88 at gmail.com  Sat Apr 17 02:12:33 2010
From: rasade88 at gmail.com (Ramindu Deshapriya)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 11:42:33 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
In-Reply-To: <y2t8cceeceb1004162156wea973ceax866b8f2c0d586d1d@mail.gmail.com>
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	<y2t8cceeceb1004162156wea973ceax866b8f2c0d586d1d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <g2ic86c05ef1004162312g61efe0bm2e2feff67fea0d37@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks, all!
Randy, I'm looking at the plugin, will work with Javed on bringing it up to
date. Thanks, Stanislav, will add pgSQL to the boilerplate. Thanks Javed for
your support. I hope we can discuss this soon and work it out? It would be
great if we could use this the 'example' to be included with the Plugin
Developer's Handbook on the wiki.

Thanks again!

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Javed Khan <tuxcanfly at gmail.com> wrote:

> Randy, I'm on it! Let me update the plugin to work with the latest version
> of geeklog. autoninstall.php seems to be the obvious first step. I am also
> following Ramindu's documentation on the wiki.
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca>wrote:
>
>>  If someone likes, they can graciously take over the maintenance of the
>> boilerplate plugin.. my official blessings etc etc.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ????????? [mailto:yankees26an at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 3:21 PM
>>
>> *To:* Geeklog Development
>> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey, Ramindu,
>>
>>
>>
>> Attached the pgSQL sample class(which is just the MySQL class, barely
>> ported), and the pgSQL install file. Let's not forget that we suppost that
>> too :)  I guess this needs to be included in the plugin files(Randy)
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Randy! I'm not sure about replacing the existing skeleton plugin,
>> will have to discuss that with Dirk I guess. Right now I'm concentrating on
>> the documentation itself.
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>> I wrote a boilerplate plugin to show off how you can write a multi-db
>> supported plugin when I did the MSSQL port.
>>
>> Not sure if Stan wanted to update it to include PGSQL support as well..
>> but it might be a good start for a skeleton plugin..
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.geeklog.net/filemgmt/index.php?id=757&query=boilerplate
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Ramindu Deshapriya [mailto:rasade88 at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:36 PM
>> *To:* Geeklog Development
>> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
>>
>>
>>
>> Dirk, I totally understand. I just thought through some form of sheer bad
>> luck I might be downloading the wrong tarball as Ben said something about
>> COM_output not being there as well. Anyway, I guess that's all cleared up
>> now!
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:15 PM, cordiste <cordiste at free.fr> wrote:
>>
>> oups  I mistyped the function name.
>>
>> Sorry for this. I need a vacation...
>>
>> ::Ben
>>
>> 2010/4/13 cordiste <cordiste at free.fr>:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I do not found a COM_ouput() function in the lib-common.php file
>> > version 1.7.0b1.
>> >
>> > ::Ben
>> >
>> > 2010/4/13 Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>:
>> >> Hi all,
>> >> I was looking into developing a mockup of the e-commerce plugin. For
>> this I
>> >> read up on the Plugin Developers Handbook and downloaded the Universal
>> >> Plugin Toolkit. Both of them seem to be a bit outdated. The first bit
>> of
>> >> evidence I found for this is that they use a simple echo statement in
>> place
>> >> of the COM_ouput() function. Would you like these guides to be brought
>> up to
>> >> date? Is there some initiative in place to do this?
>> >> Just thought I'd ask.
>> >> Thanks!
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Yours Truly,
>> >> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>> >>
>> >> _______________________________________________
>> >> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yours Truly,
>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yours Truly,
>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Warmly,
>>
>> Stanislav
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>
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> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
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>


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From tuxcanfly at gmail.com  Sat Apr 17 11:53:09 2010
From: tuxcanfly at gmail.com (Javed Khan)
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:23:09 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
In-Reply-To: <g2ic86c05ef1004162312g61efe0bm2e2feff67fea0d37@mail.gmail.com>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3571DB@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
	<y2t8cceeceb1004162156wea973ceax866b8f2c0d586d1d@mail.gmail.com>
	<g2ic86c05ef1004162312g61efe0bm2e2feff67fea0d37@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <p2s8cceeceb1004170853t8b088b97od97b3627085ae1ce@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Ramindu,

Sure, I could use your help. Seems like the boilerplate plugin was created
before 1.6.0. I found the list of plugin API functions added to 1.6.0 useful
[0]. Is there a similar list for changes in 1.7.0? If no, maybe we can dig
through the logs and create one :)

I couldn't find any information about the the boilerplate plugin on the
wiki. I would like to write about it. And yes, this can go in the Plugin
Developer's Handbook.

[0] wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/New_Plugin_API_Functions_in_Geeklog_1.6.0

Thanks,
Javed

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:

> Thanks, all!
> Randy, I'm looking at the plugin, will work with Javed on bringing it up to
> date. Thanks, Stanislav, will add pgSQL to the boilerplate. Thanks Javed for
> your support. I hope we can discuss this soon and work it out? It would be
> great if we could use this the 'example' to be included with the Plugin
> Developer's Handbook on the wiki.
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Javed Khan <tuxcanfly at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Randy, I'm on it! Let me update the plugin to work with the latest version
>> of geeklog. autoninstall.php seems to be the obvious first step. I am also
>> following Ramindu's documentation on the wiki.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca>wrote:
>>
>>>  If someone likes, they can graciously take over the maintenance of the
>>> boilerplate plugin.. my official blessings etc etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* ????????? [mailto:yankees26an at gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 3:21 PM
>>>
>>> *To:* Geeklog Development
>>> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hey, Ramindu,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Attached the pgSQL sample class(which is just the MySQL class, barely
>>> ported), and the pgSQL install file. Let's not forget that we suppost that
>>> too :)  I guess this needs to be included in the plugin files(Randy)
>>>
>>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Randy! I'm not sure about replacing the existing skeleton plugin,
>>> will have to discuss that with Dirk I guess. Right now I'm concentrating on
>>> the documentation itself.
>>>
>>> Thanks again!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Randy Kolenko <
>>> Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca> wrote:
>>>
>>> I wrote a boilerplate plugin to show off how you can write a multi-db
>>> supported plugin when I did the MSSQL port.
>>>
>>> Not sure if Stan wanted to update it to include PGSQL support as well..
>>> but it might be a good start for a skeleton plugin..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.geeklog.net/filemgmt/index.php?id=757&query=boilerplate
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Ramindu Deshapriya [mailto:rasade88 at gmail.com]
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:36 PM
>>> *To:* Geeklog Development
>>> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Dirk, I totally understand. I just thought through some form of sheer bad
>>> luck I might be downloading the wrong tarball as Ben said something about
>>> COM_output not being there as well. Anyway, I guess that's all cleared up
>>> now!
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:15 PM, cordiste <cordiste at free.fr> wrote:
>>>
>>> oups  I mistyped the function name.
>>>
>>> Sorry for this. I need a vacation...
>>>
>>> ::Ben
>>>
>>> 2010/4/13 cordiste <cordiste at free.fr>:
>>>
>>> > Hello,
>>> >
>>> > I do not found a COM_ouput() function in the lib-common.php file
>>> > version 1.7.0b1.
>>> >
>>> > ::Ben
>>> >
>>> > 2010/4/13 Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>:
>>> >> Hi all,
>>> >> I was looking into developing a mockup of the e-commerce plugin. For
>>> this I
>>> >> read up on the Plugin Developers Handbook and downloaded the Universal
>>> >> Plugin Toolkit. Both of them seem to be a bit outdated. The first bit
>>> of
>>> >> evidence I found for this is that they use a simple echo statement in
>>> place
>>> >> of the COM_ouput() function. Would you like these guides to be brought
>>> up to
>>> >> date? Is there some initiative in place to do this?
>>> >> Just thought I'd ask.
>>> >> Thanks!
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Yours Truly,
>>> >> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>> >>
>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>> >> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>> >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>> >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yours Truly,
>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Yours Truly,
>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Warmly,
>>>
>>> Stanislav
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>
>>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Yours Truly,
> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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From tuxcanfly at gmail.com  Sun Apr 18 04:48:02 2010
From: tuxcanfly at gmail.com (Javed Khan)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 14:18:02 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
In-Reply-To: <p2s8cceeceb1004170853t8b088b97od97b3627085ae1ce@mail.gmail.com>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3571DB@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
	<y2t8cceeceb1004162156wea973ceax866b8f2c0d586d1d@mail.gmail.com>
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	<p2s8cceeceb1004170853t8b088b97od97b3627085ae1ce@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <t2z8cceeceb1004180148q30aec208l3d0422ab28294997@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

Updated the sample plugin for use with the latest geeklog. Used Stan's pgsql
patch (thanks Stan!), added autoinstall, and modified sql folder. I am
thinking of adding basic CRUD features to the plugin in future.

Tested with mysql only as of now. Please test!

Thanks Ramindu, lets integrate this plugin with the Plugin Developers
Handbook. If you think any other function or API features that could be
explored, let me know.

Thanks,
Javed


On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Javed Khan <tuxcanfly at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ramindu,
>
> Sure, I could use your help. Seems like the boilerplate plugin was created
> before 1.6.0. I found the list of plugin API functions added to 1.6.0 useful
> [0]. Is there a similar list for changes in 1.7.0? If no, maybe we can dig
> through the logs and create one :)
>
> I couldn't find any information about the the boilerplate plugin on the
> wiki. I would like to write about it. And yes, this can go in the Plugin
> Developer's Handbook.
>
> [0] wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/New_Plugin_API_Functions_in_Geeklog_1.6.0
>
> Thanks,
> Javed
>
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Thanks, all!
>> Randy, I'm looking at the plugin, will work with Javed on bringing it up
>> to date. Thanks, Stanislav, will add pgSQL to the boilerplate. Thanks Javed
>> for your support. I hope we can discuss this soon and work it out? It would
>> be great if we could use this the 'example' to be included with the Plugin
>> Developer's Handbook on the wiki.
>>
>> Thanks again!
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Javed Khan <tuxcanfly at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Randy, I'm on it! Let me update the plugin to work with the latest
>>> version of geeklog. autoninstall.php seems to be the obvious first step. I
>>> am also following Ramindu's documentation on the wiki.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>  If someone likes, they can graciously take over the maintenance of the
>>>> boilerplate plugin.. my official blessings etc etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* ????????? [mailto:yankees26an at gmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 3:21 PM
>>>>
>>>> *To:* Geeklog Development
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hey, Ramindu,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Attached the pgSQL sample class(which is just the MySQL class, barely
>>>> ported), and the pgSQL install file. Let's not forget that we suppost that
>>>> too :)  I guess this needs to be included in the plugin files(Randy)
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Thanks Randy! I'm not sure about replacing the existing skeleton plugin,
>>>> will have to discuss that with Dirk I guess. Right now I'm concentrating on
>>>> the documentation itself.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks again!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Randy Kolenko <
>>>> Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I wrote a boilerplate plugin to show off how you can write a multi-db
>>>> supported plugin when I did the MSSQL port.
>>>>
>>>> Not sure if Stan wanted to update it to include PGSQL support as well..
>>>> but it might be a good start for a skeleton plugin..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.geeklog.net/filemgmt/index.php?id=757&query=boilerplate
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Ramindu Deshapriya [mailto:rasade88 at gmail.com]
>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:36 PM
>>>> *To:* Geeklog Development
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Dirk, I totally understand. I just thought through some form of sheer
>>>> bad luck I might be downloading the wrong tarball as Ben said something
>>>> about COM_output not being there as well. Anyway, I guess that's all cleared
>>>> up now!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:15 PM, cordiste <cordiste at free.fr> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> oups  I mistyped the function name.
>>>>
>>>> Sorry for this. I need a vacation...
>>>>
>>>> ::Ben
>>>>
>>>> 2010/4/13 cordiste <cordiste at free.fr>:
>>>>
>>>> > Hello,
>>>> >
>>>> > I do not found a COM_ouput() function in the lib-common.php file
>>>> > version 1.7.0b1.
>>>> >
>>>> > ::Ben
>>>> >
>>>> > 2010/4/13 Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>:
>>>> >> Hi all,
>>>> >> I was looking into developing a mockup of the e-commerce plugin. For
>>>> this I
>>>> >> read up on the Plugin Developers Handbook and downloaded the
>>>> Universal
>>>> >> Plugin Toolkit. Both of them seem to be a bit outdated. The first bit
>>>> of
>>>> >> evidence I found for this is that they use a simple echo statement in
>>>> place
>>>> >> of the COM_ouput() function. Would you like these guides to be
>>>> brought up to
>>>> >> date? Is there some initiative in place to do this?
>>>> >> Just thought I'd ask.
>>>> >> Thanks!
>>>> >>
>>>> >> --
>>>> >> Yours Truly,
>>>> >> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> _______________________________________________
>>>> >> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>> >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>> >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>> >>
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Yours Truly,
>>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Yours Truly,
>>>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Warmly,
>>>>
>>>> Stanislav
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Yours Truly,
>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Sun Apr 18 10:17:18 2010
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 10:17:18 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
In-Reply-To: <t2z8cceeceb1004180148q30aec208l3d0422ab28294997@mail.gmail.com>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3571DB@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>	<y2t8cceeceb1004162156wea973ceax866b8f2c0d586d1d@mail.gmail.com>	<g2ic86c05ef1004162312g61efe0bm2e2feff67fea0d37@mail.gmail.com>	<p2s8cceeceb1004170853t8b088b97od97b3627085ae1ce@mail.gmail.com>
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Thanks Javed,

 

I will take a look at it.

 

Tom

 

From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Javed Khan
Sent: April-18-10 4:48 AM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date

 

Hi All,

 

Updated the sample plugin for use with the latest geeklog. Used Stan's pgsql patch (thanks Stan!), added autoinstall, and modified sql folder. I am thinking of adding basic CRUD features to the plugin in future.

 

Tested with mysql only as of now. Please test!

 

Thanks Ramindu, lets integrate this plugin with the Plugin Developers Handbook. If you think any other function or API features that could be explored, let me know.

 

Thanks,

Javed

 

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Javed Khan <tuxcanfly at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Ramindu,

 

Sure, I could use your help. Seems like the boilerplate plugin was created before 1.6.0. I found the list of plugin API functions added to 1.6.0 useful [0]. Is there a similar list for changes in 1.7.0? If no, maybe we can dig through the logs and create one :) 

 

I couldn't find any information about the the boilerplate plugin on the wiki. I would like to write about it. And yes, this can go in the Plugin Developer's Handbook.

 

[0] wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/New_Plugin_API_Functions_in_Geeklog_1.6.0 

 

Thanks,

Javed

 

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, all!

Randy, I'm looking at the plugin, will work with Javed on bringing it up to date. Thanks, Stanislav, will add pgSQL to the boilerplate. Thanks Javed for your support. I hope we can discuss this soon and work it out? It would be great if we could use this the 'example' to be included with the Plugin Developer's Handbook on the wiki.

 

Thanks again!

 

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Javed Khan <tuxcanfly at gmail.com> wrote:

Randy, I'm on it! Let me update the plugin to work with the latest version of geeklog. autoninstall.php seems to be the obvious first step. I am also following Ramindu's documentation on the wiki.

 

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca> wrote:

If someone likes, they can graciously take over the maintenance of the boilerplate plugin.. my official blessings etc etc.

 

 

 

From: ????????? [mailto:yankees26an at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 3:21 PM


To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date

 

Hey, Ramindu, 

 

Attached the pgSQL sample class(which is just the MySQL class, barely ported), and the pgSQL install file. Let's not forget that we suppost that too :)  I guess this needs to be included in the plugin files(Randy)

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Randy! I'm not sure about replacing the existing skeleton plugin, will have to discuss that with Dirk I guess. Right now I'm concentrating on the documentation itself.

Thanks again!

 

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca> wrote:

I wrote a boilerplate plugin to show off how you can write a multi-db supported plugin when I did the MSSQL port.

Not sure if Stan wanted to update it to include PGSQL support as well.. but it might be a good start for a skeleton plugin..

 

http://www.geeklog.net/filemgmt/index.php?id=757 <http://www.geeklog.net/filemgmt/index.php?id=757&query=boilerplate> &query=boilerplate

 

 

 

 

From: Ramindu Deshapriya [mailto:rasade88 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:36 PM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date

 

Dirk, I totally understand. I just thought through some form of sheer bad luck I might be downloading the wrong tarball as Ben said something about COM_output not being there as well. Anyway, I guess that's all cleared up now!

Thanks!

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:15 PM, cordiste <cordiste at free.fr> wrote:

oups  I mistyped the function name.

Sorry for this. I need a vacation...

::Ben

2010/4/13 cordiste <cordiste at free.fr>:

> Hello,
>
> I do not found a COM_ouput() function in the lib-common.php file
> version 1.7.0b1.
>
> ::Ben
>
> 2010/4/13 Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>:
>> Hi all,
>> I was looking into developing a mockup of the e-commerce plugin. For this I
>> read up on the Plugin Developers Handbook and downloaded the Universal
>> Plugin Toolkit. Both of them seem to be a bit outdated. The first bit of
>> evidence I found for this is that they use a simple echo statement in place
>> of the COM_ouput() function. Would you like these guides to be brought up to
>> date? Is there some initiative in place to do this?
>> Just thought I'd ask.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Yours Truly,
>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>>
>
_______________________________________________
geeklog-devel mailing list
geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel




-- 
Yours Truly,
Ramindu Deshapriya.


_______________________________________________
geeklog-devel mailing list
geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel




-- 
Yours Truly,
Ramindu Deshapriya.


_______________________________________________
geeklog-devel mailing list
geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel




-- 
Warmly,

Stanislav


_______________________________________________
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geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel

 


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Ramindu Deshapriya.


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From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2010 10:52:05 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] JQuery and Plugin Dependencies
In-Reply-To: <019301cadf01$daba6350$902f29f0$@net>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3571DB@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>	<y2t8cceeceb1004162156wea973ceax866b8f2c0d586d1d@mail.gmail.com>	<g2ic86c05ef1004162312g61efe0bm2e2feff67fea0d37@mail.gmail.com>	<p2s8cceeceb1004170853t8b088b97od97b3627085ae1ce@mail.gmail.com>	<t2z8cceeceb1004180148q30aec208l3d0422ab28294997@mail.gmail.com>
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Just a thought,

 

Should we add JQuery support and plugin version dependencies to Geeklog 1.7.0 so it is available to the GSOC students? Both of these features should be controlled by Geeklog. We have discussed the need of some sort of version dependence control before in the mailing list but with SocNet it is something we will need soon.

 

I hate to add features to a beta version of Geeklog and obviously the work will have to be done by someone, the question is should it be the students or us?

 

Tom

 

From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: April-18-10 10:17 AM
To: 'Geeklog Development'
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date

 

Thanks Javed,

 

I will take a look at it.

 

Tom

 

From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Javed Khan
Sent: April-18-10 4:48 AM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date

 

Hi All,

 

Updated the sample plugin for use with the latest geeklog. Used Stan's pgsql patch (thanks Stan!), added autoinstall, and modified sql folder. I am thinking of adding basic CRUD features to the plugin in future.

 

Tested with mysql only as of now. Please test!

 

Thanks Ramindu, lets integrate this plugin with the Plugin Developers Handbook. If you think any other function or API features that could be explored, let me know.

 

Thanks,

Javed

 

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Javed Khan <tuxcanfly at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Ramindu,

 

Sure, I could use your help. Seems like the boilerplate plugin was created before 1.6.0. I found the list of plugin API functions added to 1.6.0 useful [0]. Is there a similar list for changes in 1.7.0? If no, maybe we can dig through the logs and create one :) 

 

I couldn't find any information about the the boilerplate plugin on the wiki. I would like to write about it. And yes, this can go in the Plugin Developer's Handbook.

 

[0] wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/New_Plugin_API_Functions_in_Geeklog_1.6.0 

 

Thanks,

Javed

 

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, all!

Randy, I'm looking at the plugin, will work with Javed on bringing it up to date. Thanks, Stanislav, will add pgSQL to the boilerplate. Thanks Javed for your support. I hope we can discuss this soon and work it out? It would be great if we could use this the 'example' to be included with the Plugin Developer's Handbook on the wiki.

 

Thanks again!

 

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Javed Khan <tuxcanfly at gmail.com> wrote:

Randy, I'm on it! Let me update the plugin to work with the latest version of geeklog. autoninstall.php seems to be the obvious first step. I am also following Ramindu's documentation on the wiki.

 

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca> wrote:

If someone likes, they can graciously take over the maintenance of the boilerplate plugin.. my official blessings etc etc.

 

 

 

From: ????????? [mailto:yankees26an at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 3:21 PM


To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date

 

Hey, Ramindu, 

 

Attached the pgSQL sample class(which is just the MySQL class, barely ported), and the pgSQL install file. Let's not forget that we suppost that too :)  I guess this needs to be included in the plugin files(Randy)

On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks Randy! I'm not sure about replacing the existing skeleton plugin, will have to discuss that with Dirk I guess. Right now I'm concentrating on the documentation itself.

Thanks again!

 

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca> wrote:

I wrote a boilerplate plugin to show off how you can write a multi-db supported plugin when I did the MSSQL port.

Not sure if Stan wanted to update it to include PGSQL support as well.. but it might be a good start for a skeleton plugin..

 

http://www.geeklog.net/filemgmt/index.php?id=757 <http://www.geeklog.net/filemgmt/index.php?id=757&query=boilerplate> &query=boilerplate

 

 

 

 

From: Ramindu Deshapriya [mailto:rasade88 at gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:36 PM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date

 

Dirk, I totally understand. I just thought through some form of sheer bad luck I might be downloading the wrong tarball as Ben said something about COM_output not being there as well. Anyway, I guess that's all cleared up now!

Thanks!

On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:15 PM, cordiste <cordiste at free.fr> wrote:

oups  I mistyped the function name.

Sorry for this. I need a vacation...

::Ben

2010/4/13 cordiste <cordiste at free.fr>:

> Hello,
>
> I do not found a COM_ouput() function in the lib-common.php file
> version 1.7.0b1.
>
> ::Ben
>
> 2010/4/13 Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>:
>> Hi all,
>> I was looking into developing a mockup of the e-commerce plugin. For this I
>> read up on the Plugin Developers Handbook and downloaded the Universal
>> Plugin Toolkit. Both of them seem to be a bit outdated. The first bit of
>> evidence I found for this is that they use a simple echo statement in place
>> of the COM_ouput() function. Would you like these guides to be brought up to
>> date? Is there some initiative in place to do this?
>> Just thought I'd ask.
>> Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Yours Truly,
>> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
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From sam at theleathers.net  Wed Apr 21 09:36:23 2010
From: sam at theleathers.net (Samuel Leathers)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 09:36:23 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Installation Process with latest mercurial release
Message-ID: <4BCEFF57.7080205@theleathers.net>

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So, with the school semester wrapping up, I finally got around to
setting up mercurial, apache and mysql in an ubuntu VM. I brought up the
install page, choose new install, and plug in all the options for
database and title information, and then click install.

Then I get a blank page, no errors, nothing in the logs directory... I
checked php.ini and it is set to E_ALL and display_error is On.

Is there any bugs in the mercurial repository with the install script I
should know about, or is this something weird with my setup?

Sam
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From vfuria at gmail.com  Wed Apr 21 10:39:59 2010
From: vfuria at gmail.com (Vincent Furia)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 08:39:59 -0600
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Installation Process with latest mercurial
	release
In-Reply-To: <4BCEFF57.7080205@theleathers.net>
References: <4BCEFF57.7080205@theleathers.net>
Message-ID: <p2t8319e2d61004210739h53c6e1b9kbda2889868380473@mail.gmail.com>

Have you checked the error.log? It should be located in <geeklog
path>/logs/error.log.

-Vinny

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Samuel Leathers <sam at theleathers.net>wrote:

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> So, with the school semester wrapping up, I finally got around to
> setting up mercurial, apache and mysql in an ubuntu VM. I brought up the
> install page, choose new install, and plug in all the options for
> database and title information, and then click install.
>
> Then I get a blank page, no errors, nothing in the logs directory... I
> checked php.ini and it is set to E_ALL and display_error is On.
>
> Is there any bugs in the mercurial repository with the install script I
> should know about, or is this something weird with my setup?
>
> Sam
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From yankees26an at gmail.com  Wed Apr 21 11:25:46 2010
From: yankees26an at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?4bmoz67isaXItc6v4bmlyp/JkeKImg==?=)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 11:25:46 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Installation Process with latest mercurial
	release
In-Reply-To: <p2t8319e2d61004210739h53c6e1b9kbda2889868380473@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BCEFF57.7080205@theleathers.net>
	<p2t8319e2d61004210739h53c6e1b9kbda2889868380473@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <w2v7aaf88901004210825w3d509dbsae8a472403d9c5f0@mail.gmail.com>

Also, in the site-config.php file, enable output debugging by adding the
following line:

$_CONF['rootdebug'] = true;

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Vincent Furia <vfuria at gmail.com> wrote:

> Have you checked the error.log? It should be located in <geeklog
> path>/logs/error.log.
>
> -Vinny
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Samuel Leathers <sam at theleathers.net>wrote:
>
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>> So, with the school semester wrapping up, I finally got around to
>> setting up mercurial, apache and mysql in an ubuntu VM. I brought up the
>> install page, choose new install, and plug in all the options for
>> database and title information, and then click install.
>>
>> Then I get a blank page, no errors, nothing in the logs directory... I
>> checked php.ini and it is set to E_ALL and display_error is On.
>>
>> Is there any bugs in the mercurial repository with the install script I
>> should know about, or is this something weird with my setup?
>>
>> Sam
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From sam at theleathers.net  Wed Apr 21 14:06:27 2010
From: sam at theleathers.net (Samuel Leathers)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:06:27 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Installation Process with latest
	mercurial	release
In-Reply-To: <p2t8319e2d61004210739h53c6e1b9kbda2889868380473@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BCEFF57.7080205@theleathers.net>
	<p2t8319e2d61004210739h53c6e1b9kbda2889868380473@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4BCF3EA3.7020105@theleathers.net>

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I checked error.log. All it had was *** dummy entry ***

I checked permissions on the log file, and it was owned by www-data, so
the webserver should have been able to write to it. I also enabled
rootdebug, which did nothing either.

I gave it bad authentication data for the database, and it gave the
"sorry but the database info you entered is incorrect" error, so it
appears it is talking to the database properly, so that shouldn't be an
issue.

On the blank page, I did a view source, and it came up completely blank.

So then I thought maybe I did something wrong, so wiped the directory,
did a fresh hg clone, downloaded the pear files, copied the three dist
files to the originals, chown -R the directory to www-data, and tried
again, and same problem.

Not sure what I'm doing wrong at this point. Any suggestions?

Sam

On 4/21/10 10:39 AM, Vincent Furia wrote:
> Have you checked the error.log? It should be located in <geeklog
> path>/logs/error.log.
> 
> -Vinny
> 
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Samuel Leathers <sam at theleathers.net
> <mailto:sam at theleathers.net>> wrote:
> 
> So, with the school semester wrapping up, I finally got around to
> setting up mercurial, apache and mysql in an ubuntu VM. I brought up the
> install page, choose new install, and plug in all the options for
> database and title information, and then click install.
> 
> Then I get a blank page, no errors, nothing in the logs directory... I
> checked php.ini and it is set to E_ALL and display_error is On.
> 
> Is there any bugs in the mercurial repository with the install script I
> should know about, or is this something weird with my setup?
> 
> Sam
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From tuxcanfly at gmail.com  Wed Apr 21 14:27:07 2010
From: tuxcanfly at gmail.com (Javed Khan)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:57:07 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Installation Process with latest mercurial
	release
In-Reply-To: <4BCF3EA3.7020105@theleathers.net>
References: <4BCEFF57.7080205@theleathers.net>
	<p2t8319e2d61004210739h53c6e1b9kbda2889868380473@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BCF3EA3.7020105@theleathers.net>
Message-ID: <y2v8cceeceb1004211127y680f8ae1t157adfc24c3b8549@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Samuel,

Can you check if the database tables are created or not?

Can you navigate to some other url like public_html/submit?

I think I had a similar problem but it was only for the index page. All
other pages were working fine.

Thanks,
Javed

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Samuel Leathers <sam at theleathers.net>wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> I checked error.log. All it had was *** dummy entry ***
>
> I checked permissions on the log file, and it was owned by www-data, so
> the webserver should have been able to write to it. I also enabled
> rootdebug, which did nothing either.
>
> I gave it bad authentication data for the database, and it gave the
> "sorry but the database info you entered is incorrect" error, so it
> appears it is talking to the database properly, so that shouldn't be an
> issue.
>
> On the blank page, I did a view source, and it came up completely blank.
>
> So then I thought maybe I did something wrong, so wiped the directory,
> did a fresh hg clone, downloaded the pear files, copied the three dist
> files to the originals, chown -R the directory to www-data, and tried
> again, and same problem.
>
> Not sure what I'm doing wrong at this point. Any suggestions?
>
> Sam
>
> On 4/21/10 10:39 AM, Vincent Furia wrote:
> > Have you checked the error.log? It should be located in <geeklog
> > path>/logs/error.log.
> >
> > -Vinny
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Samuel Leathers <sam at theleathers.net
> > <mailto:sam at theleathers.net>> wrote:
> >
> > So, with the school semester wrapping up, I finally got around to
> > setting up mercurial, apache and mysql in an ubuntu VM. I brought up the
> > install page, choose new install, and plug in all the options for
> > database and title information, and then click install.
> >
> > Then I get a blank page, no errors, nothing in the logs directory... I
> > checked php.ini and it is set to E_ALL and display_error is On.
> >
> > Is there any bugs in the mercurial repository with the install script I
> > should know about, or is this something weird with my setup?
> >
> > Sam
> _______________________________________________
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> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net <mailto:geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
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From yankees26an at gmail.com  Wed Apr 21 14:26:47 2010
From: yankees26an at gmail.com (=?UTF-8?B?4bmoz67isaXItc6v4bmlyp/JkeKImg==?=)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:26:47 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Installation Process with latest mercurial
	release
In-Reply-To: <4BCF3EA3.7020105@theleathers.net>
References: <4BCEFF57.7080205@theleathers.net>
	<p2t8319e2d61004210739h53c6e1b9kbda2889868380473@mail.gmail.com>
	<4BCF3EA3.7020105@theleathers.net>
Message-ID: <z2m7aaf88901004211126kfd46c5aarc716b9a3573eef48@mail.gmail.com>

Try installing without plugins. What install options did you choose? What
page are you trying to load? Also which DB engine did you choose?

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Samuel Leathers <sam at theleathers.net>wrote:

> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> I checked error.log. All it had was *** dummy entry ***
>
> I checked permissions on the log file, and it was owned by www-data, so
> the webserver should have been able to write to it. I also enabled
> rootdebug, which did nothing either.
>
> I gave it bad authentication data for the database, and it gave the
> "sorry but the database info you entered is incorrect" error, so it
> appears it is talking to the database properly, so that shouldn't be an
> issue.
>
> On the blank page, I did a view source, and it came up completely blank.
>
> So then I thought maybe I did something wrong, so wiped the directory,
> did a fresh hg clone, downloaded the pear files, copied the three dist
> files to the originals, chown -R the directory to www-data, and tried
> again, and same problem.
>
> Not sure what I'm doing wrong at this point. Any suggestions?
>
> Sam
>
> On 4/21/10 10:39 AM, Vincent Furia wrote:
> > Have you checked the error.log? It should be located in <geeklog
> > path>/logs/error.log.
> >
> > -Vinny
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Samuel Leathers <sam at theleathers.net
> > <mailto:sam at theleathers.net>> wrote:
> >
> > So, with the school semester wrapping up, I finally got around to
> > setting up mercurial, apache and mysql in an ubuntu VM. I brought up the
> > install page, choose new install, and plug in all the options for
> > database and title information, and then click install.
> >
> > Then I get a blank page, no errors, nothing in the logs directory... I
> > checked php.ini and it is set to E_ALL and display_error is On.
> >
> > Is there any bugs in the mercurial repository with the install script I
> > should know about, or is this something weird with my setup?
> >
> > Sam
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From sam at theleathers.net  Wed Apr 21 14:49:43 2010
From: sam at theleathers.net (Samuel Leathers)
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 14:49:43 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Installation Process with latest
	mercurial	release
In-Reply-To: <y2v8cceeceb1004211127y680f8ae1t157adfc24c3b8549@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4BCEFF57.7080205@theleathers.net>	<p2t8319e2d61004210739h53c6e1b9kbda2889868380473@mail.gmail.com>	<4BCF3EA3.7020105@theleathers.net>
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Never mind, I had typo'd my grant command in mysql. User and pass was
correct, so logging into mysql was fine, but database name was
incorrect. Can't believe it took me this long to figure out ;-)

Thanks for all your help!

One side note though. After I fixed everything, and went through the
install process again, at the end of the install, it said an error has
occurred, but then when I went to localhost, it appeared everything was
okay. So I don't know why it gave me that last error.

Sam

On 4/21/10 2:27 PM, Javed Khan wrote:
> Hi Samuel,
> 
> Can you check if the database tables are created or not?
> 
> Can you navigate to some other url like public_html/submit?
> 
> I think I had a similar problem but it was only for the index page. All
> other pages were working fine.
> 
> Thanks,
> Javed
> 
> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 11:36 PM, Samuel Leathers <sam at theleathers.net
> <mailto:sam at theleathers.net>> wrote:
> 
> I checked error.log. All it had was *** dummy entry ***
> 
> I checked permissions on the log file, and it was owned by www-data, so
> the webserver should have been able to write to it. I also enabled
> rootdebug, which did nothing either.
> 
> I gave it bad authentication data for the database, and it gave the
> "sorry but the database info you entered is incorrect" error, so it
> appears it is talking to the database properly, so that shouldn't be an
> issue.
> 
> On the blank page, I did a view source, and it came up completely blank.
> 
> So then I thought maybe I did something wrong, so wiped the directory,
> did a fresh hg clone, downloaded the pear files, copied the three dist
> files to the originals, chown -R the directory to www-data, and tried
> again, and same problem.
> 
> Not sure what I'm doing wrong at this point. Any suggestions?
> 
> Sam
> 
> On 4/21/10 10:39 AM, Vincent Furia wrote:
>> Have you checked the error.log? It should be located in <geeklog
>> path>/logs/error.log.
> 
>> -Vinny
> 
>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Samuel Leathers
> <sam at theleathers.net <mailto:sam at theleathers.net>
>> <mailto:sam at theleathers.net <mailto:sam at theleathers.net>>> wrote:
> 
>> So, with the school semester wrapping up, I finally got around to
>> setting up mercurial, apache and mysql in an ubuntu VM. I brought
> up the
>> install page, choose new install, and plug in all the options for
>> database and title information, and then click install.
> 
>> Then I get a blank page, no errors, nothing in the logs directory... I
>> checked php.ini and it is set to E_ALL and display_error is On.
> 
>> Is there any bugs in the mercurial repository with the install
> script I
>> should know about, or is this something weird with my setup?
> 
>> Sam
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From rasade88 at gmail.com  Wed Apr 21 16:23:42 2010
From: rasade88 at gmail.com (Ramindu Deshapriya)
Date: Thu, 22 Apr 2010 01:53:42 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
In-Reply-To: <019301cadf01$daba6350$902f29f0$@net>
References: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F3571DB@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>
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I added a page on Autoinstall to the plugin development guide documentation.
Used the autoinstall.php file that Javed wrote for the boilerplate plugin as
the example. Link: http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Autoinstall_Feature

<http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Autoinstall_Feature>Thanks!

On Sun, Apr 18, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Tom <websitemaster at cogeco.net> wrote:

>  Thanks Javed,
>
>
>
> I will take a look at it.
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> *From:* geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net [mailto:
> geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] *On Behalf Of *Javed Khan
>
> *Sent:* April-18-10 4:48 AM
> *To:* Geeklog Development
> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
>
>
>
> Hi All,
>
>
>
> Updated the sample plugin for use with the latest geeklog. Used Stan's
> pgsql patch (thanks Stan!), added autoinstall, and modified sql folder. I am
> thinking of adding basic CRUD features to the plugin in future.
>
>
>
> Tested with mysql only as of now. Please test!
>
>
>
> Thanks Ramindu, lets integrate this plugin with the Plugin Developers
> Handbook. If you think any other function or API features that could be
> explored, let me know.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Javed
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 9:23 PM, Javed Khan <tuxcanfly at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Ramindu,
>
>
>
> Sure, I could use your help. Seems like the boilerplate plugin was created
> before 1.6.0. I found the list of plugin API functions added to 1.6.0 useful
> [0]. Is there a similar list for changes in 1.7.0? If no, maybe we can dig
> through the logs and create one :)
>
>
>
> I couldn't find any information about the the boilerplate plugin on the
> wiki. I would like to write about it. And yes, this can go in the Plugin
> Developer's Handbook.
>
>
>
> [0] wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/New_Plugin_API_Functions_in_Geeklog_1.6.0
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Javed
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 11:42 AM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks, all!
>
> Randy, I'm looking at the plugin, will work with Javed on bringing it up to
> date. Thanks, Stanislav, will add pgSQL to the boilerplate. Thanks Javed for
> your support. I hope we can discuss this soon and work it out? It would be
> great if we could use this the 'example' to be included with the Plugin
> Developer's Handbook on the wiki.
>
>
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:26 AM, Javed Khan <tuxcanfly at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Randy, I'm on it! Let me update the plugin to work with the latest version
> of geeklog. autoninstall.php seems to be the obvious first step. I am also
> following Ramindu's documentation on the wiki.
>
>
>
> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 1:20 AM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca>
> wrote:
>
> If someone likes, they can graciously take over the maintenance of the
> boilerplate plugin.. my official blessings etc etc.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ????????? [mailto:yankees26an at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, April 16, 2010 3:21 PM
>
>
> *To:* Geeklog Development
> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
>
>
>
> Hey, Ramindu,
>
>
>
> Attached the pgSQL sample class(which is just the MySQL class, barely
> ported), and the pgSQL install file. Let's not forget that we suppost that
> too :)  I guess this needs to be included in the plugin files(Randy)
>
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 2:09 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thanks Randy! I'm not sure about replacing the existing skeleton plugin,
> will have to discuss that with Dirk I guess. Right now I'm concentrating on
> the documentation itself.
>
> Thanks again!
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 10:27 PM, Randy Kolenko <Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca>
> wrote:
>
> I wrote a boilerplate plugin to show off how you can write a multi-db
> supported plugin when I did the MSSQL port.
>
> Not sure if Stan wanted to update it to include PGSQL support as well.. but
> it might be a good start for a skeleton plugin..
>
>
>
> http://www.geeklog.net/filemgmt/index.php?id=757&query=boilerplate
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Ramindu Deshapriya [mailto:rasade88 at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 14, 2010 12:36 PM
> *To:* Geeklog Development
> *Subject:* Re: [geeklog-devel] Plugin development guides out of date
>
>
>
> Dirk, I totally understand. I just thought through some form of sheer bad
> luck I might be downloading the wrong tarball as Ben said something about
> COM_output not being there as well. Anyway, I guess that's all cleared up
> now!
>
> Thanks!
>
> On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 6:15 PM, cordiste <cordiste at free.fr> wrote:
>
> oups  I mistyped the function name.
>
> Sorry for this. I need a vacation...
>
> ::Ben
>
> 2010/4/13 cordiste <cordiste at free.fr>:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I do not found a COM_ouput() function in the lib-common.php file
> > version 1.7.0b1.
> >
> > ::Ben
> >
> > 2010/4/13 Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>:
> >> Hi all,
> >> I was looking into developing a mockup of the e-commerce plugin. For
> this I
> >> read up on the Plugin Developers Handbook and downloaded the Universal
> >> Plugin Toolkit. Both of them seem to be a bit outdated. The first bit of
> >> evidence I found for this is that they use a simple echo statement in
> place
> >> of the COM_ouput() function. Would you like these guides to be brought
> up to
> >> date? Is there some initiative in place to do this?
> >> Just thought I'd ask.
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> --
> >> Yours Truly,
> >> Ramindu Deshapriya.
> >>
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> >> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> >> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
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>
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sat Apr 24 10:16:06 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 16:16:06 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Changelog extension for Mercurial
Message-ID: <20100424141606.1425739093@smtp.haun-online.de>

Here's a cute and useful little extension for Mercurial:

    http://mercurial.selenic.com/wiki/ChangelogExtension

Install it and point it to Geeklog's history file like so:

[changelog]
filename = public_html/docs/history

From then on, it will pick up any changes in that file and provide that
text as the default checkin comment. This saves you from having to type
the same comment twice (in the history file and as a checkin comment).
It even removes the bullet point.

bye, Dirk


-- 
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http://geeklog.info/



From dirk at haun-online.de  Sun Apr 25 15:03:09 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 2010 21:03:09 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Thanks!
Message-ID: <20100425190309.611421882@smtp.haun-online.de>

Another 24 hours before the accepted student proposals are announced. So
while everbody's waiting, I just wanted to say thanks to all those
students and other members of the Geeklog community for everything that
has been happening over the last few weeks. It was really great to see
all of you being so engaged and eager to help out in various ways, be it
patches, bug reports, translations, or documentation / wiki updates.

Tomorrow, inevitably, there will be some disappointment. Some of you
will probably move on but I do hope that we will be able to keep up some
of that momentum and that some of you had fun and will stick around.

When we decided to ask for a patch as part of the application process, I
didn't imagine that we would end up with such a huge backlog of patches.
We will have to release Geeklog 1.7.0 "real soon now" so that our
selected students have a basis to work on. But we'll immediately start
1.7.1 development after that. All the patches that didn't make it into
1.7.0 will be considered for inclusion in 1.7.1, so nothing will be lost
and every single patch is very much appreciated.

This was the most active and exciting application phase we ever had in
GSoC and although I was busy with other things during the last 2 weeks,
all this did not go unnoticed. I'm not very good at this, but I just
wanted send a note of thanks.

So: Thanks! :)

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From dharamveer.chouhan.cer08 at itbhu.ac.in  Sun Apr 25 15:22:26 2010
From: dharamveer.chouhan.cer08 at itbhu.ac.in (Dharamveer Singh Chouhan)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 00:52:26 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Thanks!
In-Reply-To: <20100425190309.611421882@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <20100425190309.611421882@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <g2o96c792da1004251222i8fda6f07s208496b34e50eac1@mail.gmail.com>

eagerly awaiting the results
Thanks Geeklog
Cheers
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dharamveer Singh Chouhan
B.Tech 2nd Year
Ceramic Engineering
Institute of Technology
Banaras Hindu University
India-221005
Phone: +91 99184 64162
Personal Email: dvcoolster at gmail.com
Academic Email: dharamveer.chouhan.cer08 at itbhu.ac.in
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~


On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:

> Another 24 hours before the accepted student proposals are announced. So
> while everbody's waiting, I just wanted to say thanks to all those
> students and other members of the Geeklog community for everything that
> has been happening over the last few weeks. It was really great to see
> all of you being so engaged and eager to help out in various ways, be it
> patches, bug reports, translations, or documentation / wiki updates.
>
> Tomorrow, inevitably, there will be some disappointment. Some of you
> will probably move on but I do hope that we will be able to keep up some
> of that momentum and that some of you had fun and will stick around.
>
> When we decided to ask for a patch as part of the application process, I
> didn't imagine that we would end up with such a huge backlog of patches.
> We will have to release Geeklog 1.7.0 "real soon now" so that our
> selected students have a basis to work on. But we'll immediately start
> 1.7.1 development after that. All the patches that didn't make it into
> 1.7.0 will be considered for inclusion in 1.7.1, so nothing will be lost
> and every single patch is very much appreciated.
>
> This was the most active and exciting application phase we ever had in
> GSoC and although I was busy with other things during the last 2 weeks,
> all this did not go unnoticed. I'm not very good at this, but I just
> wanted send a note of thanks.
>
> So: Thanks! :)
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
> http://www.geeklog.net/
> http://geeklog.info/
>
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From rasade88 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 26 10:14:26 2010
From: rasade88 at gmail.com (Ramindu Deshapriya)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 19:44:26 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Thanks!
In-Reply-To: <g2o96c792da1004251222i8fda6f07s208496b34e50eac1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100425190309.611421882@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<g2o96c792da1004251222i8fda6f07s208496b34e50eac1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <n2yc86c05ef1004260714h76b839d3q60f30c16f5a13da7@mail.gmail.com>

I truly had an awesome time while working with everyone in this community.
No matter what happens, I hope to continue working with this great team.
Thanks!

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Dharamveer Singh Chouhan <
dharamveer.chouhan.cer08 at itbhu.ac.in> wrote:

> eagerly awaiting the results
> Thanks Geeklog
> Cheers
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Dharamveer Singh Chouhan
> B.Tech 2nd Year
> Ceramic Engineering
> Institute of Technology
> Banaras Hindu University
> India-221005
> Phone: +91 99184 64162
> Personal Email: dvcoolster at gmail.com
> Academic Email: dharamveer.chouhan.cer08 at itbhu.ac.in
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
>
>> Another 24 hours before the accepted student proposals are announced. So
>> while everbody's waiting, I just wanted to say thanks to all those
>> students and other members of the Geeklog community for everything that
>> has been happening over the last few weeks. It was really great to see
>> all of you being so engaged and eager to help out in various ways, be it
>> patches, bug reports, translations, or documentation / wiki updates.
>>
>> Tomorrow, inevitably, there will be some disappointment. Some of you
>> will probably move on but I do hope that we will be able to keep up some
>> of that momentum and that some of you had fun and will stick around.
>>
>> When we decided to ask for a patch as part of the application process, I
>> didn't imagine that we would end up with such a huge backlog of patches.
>> We will have to release Geeklog 1.7.0 "real soon now" so that our
>> selected students have a basis to work on. But we'll immediately start
>> 1.7.1 development after that. All the patches that didn't make it into
>> 1.7.0 will be considered for inclusion in 1.7.1, so nothing will be lost
>> and every single patch is very much appreciated.
>>
>> This was the most active and exciting application phase we ever had in
>> GSoC and although I was busy with other things during the last 2 weeks,
>> all this did not go unnoticed. I'm not very good at this, but I just
>> wanted send a note of thanks.
>>
>> So: Thanks! :)
>>
>> bye, Dirk
>>
>>
>> --
>> http://www.geeklog.net/
>> http://geeklog.info/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> geeklog-devel mailing list
>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>
>
>
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Mon Apr 26 16:57:57 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 22:57:57 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Short downtime of cvs.geeklog.net /
 project.geeklog.net tomorrow (Tuesday)
Message-ID: <20100426205757.1958622372@smtp.haun-online.de>

Just a quick note that the server hosting our Mercurial repositories and
the bugtracker will have a short downtime tomorrow (Tuesday) at around
2pm EST for some upgrades.

bye, Dirk


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http://geeklog.info/



From petersonmaxx at googlemail.com  Mon Apr 26 17:19:48 2010
From: petersonmaxx at googlemail.com (Max)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 23:19:48 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC: a plugin for Social Networking
Message-ID: <s2rbccbc6691004261419k144ba941y74029314f0841406@mail.gmail.com>

?Stan Palatnik will write a plugin for Social Networking, mentored by
Randy Kolenko

Hello Stan and Randy

do you have a library in mind for the social networking?
http://retroshare.sf.net  is a decentral social network / web of
trust, which has a qt gui.

Maybe you want to use this standard library and make a php gui? so
that it is webbased and integrated into geeklog?

If you like to test it, you need to swap the gnupgp certificate,
please send yours.

regards


From Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca  Mon Apr 26 17:21:33 2010
From: Randy.Kolenko at nextide.ca (Randy Kolenko)
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2010 17:21:33 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC: a plugin for Social Networking
Message-ID: <063B8B70CB9DA141B2FC1DB483561B9F357203@nex-pluto.nextide.ca>

Hi Max,

The Socnet project is the initial implementation of social networking
for Geeklog -- which is run as a plugin and has to be web based.  Socnet
provides the base functionality for social groups in the portal that
other plugins will use.  I don't see how retroshare fits with that
concept.

-randy


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Max [mailto:petersonmaxx at googlemail.com]
> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2010 5:20 PM
> To: geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> Subject: [geeklog-devel] GSOC: a plugin for Social Networking
> 
> *Stan Palatnik will write a plugin for Social Networking, mentored by
> Randy Kolenko
> 
> Hello Stan and Randy
> 
> do you have a library in mind for the social networking?
> http://retroshare.sf.net  is a decentral social network / web of
> trust, which has a qt gui.
> 
> Maybe you want to use this standard library and make a php gui? so
> that it is webbased and integrated into geeklog?
> 
> If you like to test it, you need to swap the gnupgp certificate,
> please send yours.
> 
> regards
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel




From rasade88 at gmail.com  Mon Apr 26 22:50:12 2010
From: rasade88 at gmail.com (Ramindu Deshapriya)
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2010 08:20:12 +0530
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Thanks!
In-Reply-To: <n2yc86c05ef1004260714h76b839d3q60f30c16f5a13da7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20100425190309.611421882@smtp.haun-online.de>
	<g2o96c792da1004251222i8fda6f07s208496b34e50eac1@mail.gmail.com>
	<n2yc86c05ef1004260714h76b839d3q60f30c16f5a13da7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <u2wc86c05ef1004261950lc181b7ceif372d092f7af23fe@mail.gmail.com>

Good luck to all the students who got selected for SoC! Hope to continue my
work with Geeklog.

Thanks!

On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 7:44 PM, Ramindu Deshapriya <rasade88 at gmail.com>wrote:

> I truly had an awesome time while working with everyone in this community.
> No matter what happens, I hope to continue working with this great team.
> Thanks!
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:52 AM, Dharamveer Singh Chouhan <
> dharamveer.chouhan.cer08 at itbhu.ac.in> wrote:
>
>> eagerly awaiting the results
>> Thanks Geeklog
>> Cheers
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> Dharamveer Singh Chouhan
>> B.Tech 2nd Year
>> Ceramic Engineering
>> Institute of Technology
>> Banaras Hindu University
>> India-221005
>> Phone: +91 99184 64162
>> Personal Email: dvcoolster at gmail.com
>> Academic Email: dharamveer.chouhan.cer08 at itbhu.ac.in
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:33 AM, Dirk Haun <dirk at haun-online.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Another 24 hours before the accepted student proposals are announced. So
>>> while everbody's waiting, I just wanted to say thanks to all those
>>> students and other members of the Geeklog community for everything that
>>> has been happening over the last few weeks. It was really great to see
>>> all of you being so engaged and eager to help out in various ways, be it
>>> patches, bug reports, translations, or documentation / wiki updates.
>>>
>>> Tomorrow, inevitably, there will be some disappointment. Some of you
>>> will probably move on but I do hope that we will be able to keep up some
>>> of that momentum and that some of you had fun and will stick around.
>>>
>>> When we decided to ask for a patch as part of the application process, I
>>> didn't imagine that we would end up with such a huge backlog of patches.
>>> We will have to release Geeklog 1.7.0 "real soon now" so that our
>>> selected students have a basis to work on. But we'll immediately start
>>> 1.7.1 development after that. All the patches that didn't make it into
>>> 1.7.0 will be considered for inclusion in 1.7.1, so nothing will be lost
>>> and every single patch is very much appreciated.
>>>
>>> This was the most active and exciting application phase we ever had in
>>> GSoC and although I was busy with other things during the last 2 weeks,
>>> all this did not go unnoticed. I'm not very good at this, but I just
>>> wanted send a note of thanks.
>>>
>>> So: Thanks! :)
>>>
>>> bye, Dirk
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> http://www.geeklog.net/
>>> http://geeklog.info/
>>>
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>>> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>> http://eight.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>>
>>
>>
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>
>
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> Ramindu Deshapriya.
>



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From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Apr 28 01:52:35 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 07:52:35 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Short downtime of cvs.geeklog.net /
 project.geeklog.net tomorrow (Tuesday)
In-Reply-To: <20100426205757.1958622372@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <20100426205757.1958622372@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <20100428055235.1191656361@smtp.haun-online.de>

Dirk Haun wrote:

>Just a quick note that the server hosting our Mercurial repositories and
>the bugtracker will have a short downtime tomorrow (Tuesday)

Looks like the web frontend for Mercurial is messed up - I'll look into that.

Mercurial itself, the bugtracker, and everything else seems to be
working fine. Let me know if you notice any other problems.

bye, Dirk


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http://geeklog.info/



From dirk at haun-online.de  Thu Apr 29 01:57:34 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 07:57:34 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] 1.7.0rc1
Message-ID: <20100429055734.733723495@smtp.haun-online.de>

Okay, so we're slightly behind schedule (what else is new?) ...

I was thinking 1.7.0rc1 this coming weekend and the final version a week
later.

From what I can see, the only remaining issue is

    http://project.geeklog.net/tracking/view.php?id=1091

i.e. Ben's suggested changes to the Links and Calendar plugins to
support CAPTCHAs. Is somebody looking into those?

Other than that, new and updated language files are still welcome. As is
more testing, especially for Postgres and MS SQL installs.

bye, Dirk


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http://www.geeklog.net/
http://geeklog.info/



From dirk at haun-online.de  Thu Apr 29 14:05:32 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2010 20:05:32 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] About the Spam-X GSoC project
Message-ID: <20100429180532.1829029386@smtp.haun-online.de>

(BCC'd to all those who applied for the Spam-X project)

Some students have been asking me about the Spam-X project[1] and why it
wasn't selected. There was also some interest in working on it outside
of GSoC.

First of all, let me be blunt: The Spam-X project was our easiest
project idea for the Summer of Code. So I was really disappointed with
the overall quality of the proposals we got for this project.

Specifically:

1) Only one person noticed that Akismet and TypePad use the same
protocol and that therefore these two modules wouldn't require a lot of
work (since there already is an older Akismet module)

2) Hardly anyone thought enough about testing. Even after asking every
applicant to expand on that topic, only one proposal contained some
decent information.

Most people seem to have missed this paragraph in the project description:

>We would like to see a short evaluation of these services as one result
>of this project. For a proper comparison, the modules should probably be
>installed in parallel but not be used to actually delete spam. So a sort
>of evaluation mode could be introduced (and also added to the existing
>SLV module).

I've tried to hint that we could install the modules for evaluation on
geeklog.net and other sites that get a lot of spam. That would allow for
a good real-life comparison of the services.

3) Nobody realized that the Mollom module could be a problem (i.e. may
require more work) since it has an "unsure" categorization in which case
it wants to display a CAPTCHA.

4) The plans for SWOT weren't much better. Only one proposal made me
think that the student "got" what SWOT is about, the others were mostly
just repeating what was in the project description.

This being our easiest project, I was really hoping for someone to come
up with a nice twist or an additional idea to set themselves apart from
the other proposals. No such luck, I'm afraid. And since the few good
bits came from different proposals, we decided to skip this project entirely.

</rant>

Having said that: We're still interested in getting these modules
implemented. So I was thinking about throwing some of our bounty money
at it. Two or three people have already expressed interest in working on
modules (before I mentioned money), which brings me to the question how
we should handle this. Any suggestions?

I was initially thinking of a fixed sum for all the modules from the
first half of the project (i.e. without SWOT). But now that several
people have expressed interest it would probably make sense to split it
into smaller bounties per module.

Bounties are a nice idea. It only gets complicated when multiple parties
are interested in the same project ...

bye, Dirk

[1] http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/SoC_more_Spam-X_modules


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From sam at theleathers.net  Fri Apr 30 10:08:17 2010
From: sam at theleathers.net (Samuel Leathers)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 10:08:17 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Static Pages Plugin and advanced editor
Message-ID: <4BDAE451.8010404@theleathers.net>

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I'm not sure if this is a bug, by design or something missing in my
configuration. When I create a new static page, it defaults to a Post
Mode of HTML formatted, rather than looking at the value of
advanced_editor in the gl_userprefs SQL table. A story on the other
hand, correctly looks at the gl_userprefs, and displays the FCK editor
by default for users that have it checked in their preferences.

I've been poking around in plugins/staticpages as well as
public_html/staticpages/index.php, trying to find where it's deciding
the selected value for Post Mode. When you edit a page that's already
been set to advanced editor, it pulls up the FCK editor by default, so
somewhere in the page it must be doing a query of the content of that
page in the database to determine what Post Mode to set. If I could find
that part of the code, it would be fairly easy to modify the query, if
it's a new page to look ato the gl_userprefs to get a default value.

Can someone give me some guidance that's worked with the staticpages
plugin before? I'm at a loss at this point.

Sam
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From mark at the-howards.net  Fri Apr 30 11:14:44 2010
From: mark at the-howards.net (Mark Howard)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:14:44 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Static Pages Plugin and advanced editor
In-Reply-To: <4BDAE451.8010404@theleathers.net>
References: <4BDAE451.8010404@theleathers.net>
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From sam at theleathers.net  Fri Apr 30 11:45:46 2010
From: sam at theleathers.net (Samuel Leathers)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:45:46 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Static Pages Plugin and advanced editor
In-Reply-To: <4BDAF3E4.5080005@the-howards.net>
References: <4BDAE451.8010404@theleathers.net>
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Thanks Mark for your reply. Just what I was looking for. Figure now was
a good time to test my wings and fly, so here's a more elegant patch
I've attached. Please look it over when you get the chance and give me
any feedback regarding coding style or functionality.

Sam

On 4/30/10 11:14 AM, Mark Howard wrote:
> Hi Sam -
> 
> Sure.  The file you're looking for is
> public_html/admin/plugins/staticpages/index.php.
> 
> The function names have changed in 1.2.0, but in 1.1.8, the function
> we're interested was called form(), i can be found on line 63.  This
> function is called from staticpageeditor() which is on line 451. 
> staticpageeditor() is what figures out whether you're creating a new
> form or not, and if it's a new form, it sets a bunch of the array values
> to initial/default values.
> 
> When you're creating a new staticpage, the $A array is passed containing
> an 'default' set of values.  The field in the gl_staticpages table that
> we want to control is called 'postmode'.  staticpageeditor() looks like
> it takes an optional 3rd parameter which allows you to specify that
> ($editor = ''), and it also looks like there is an associative array
> variable called $A['editor'] that is set to that value, however it
> doesn't look like form() is doing anything with it.
> 
> Therefore - what you have here is I believe a bug.  Here's a patch you
> can try until we fix this elegantly:
> 
> In staticpageeditor(), in the second part of the 'if' statement, try
> hard-forcing the value of $A['postmode'] like this:
> 
> function staticpageeditor ($sp_id, $mode = '', $editor = '')
> {
>     global $_CONF, $_TABLES, $_USER;
> 
>     if (!empty ($sp_id) && $mode == 'edit') {
>         $result = DB_query ("SELECT *,UNIX_TIMESTAMP(sp_date) AS
> unixdate FROM {$_TABLES['staticpage']} WHERE sp_id = '$sp_id'" .
> COM_getPermSQL ('AND', 0, 3));
>         $A = DB_fetchArray ($result);
>         $A['sp_old_id'] = $A['sp_id'];
>     } elseif ($mode == 'edit') {
>         $A['sp_id'] = COM_makesid ();
>         $A['sp_uid'] = $_USER['uid'];
>         $A['unixdate'] = time ();
>         $A['sp_help'] = '';
>         $A['sp_old_id'] = '';
>         $A['commentcode'] = $_CONF['comment_code'];
>         $A['sp_where'] = 1; // default new pages to "top of page"
>         $A['sp_search'] = 1;
>         $A['postmode'] = 'adveditor';  // <===========================
> this is the line to add
>     } elseif (!empty ($sp_id) && $mode == 'clone') {
>         $result = DB_query ("SELECT *,UNIX_TIMESTAMP(sp_date) AS
> unixdate FROM {$_TABLES['staticpage']} WHERE sp_id = '$sp_id'" .
> COM_getPermSQL ('AND', 0, 3));
>         $A = DB_fetchArray ($result);
>         $A['sp_id'] = COM_makesid ();
>         $sp_id = $A['sp_id'];
>         $A['sp_uid'] = $_USER['uid'];
>         $A['unixdate'] = time ();
>         $A['sp_hits'] = 0;
>         $A['sp_old_id'] = '';
>     } else {
>         $A = $_POST;
>         if (empty ($A['unixdate'])) {
>             $A['unixdate'] = time ();
>         }
>         $A['sp_content'] = COM_checkHTML (COM_checkWords
> ($A['sp_content']));
>     }
>     if (isset ($A['sp_title'])) {
>         $A['sp_title'] = strip_tags ($A['sp_title']);
>     }
>     $A['editor'] = $editor;
> 
>     return form ($A);
> 
> Samuel Leathers wrote:
> I'm not sure if this is a bug, by design or something missing in my
> configuration. When I create a new static page, it defaults to a Post
> Mode of HTML formatted, rather than looking at the value of
> advanced_editor in the gl_userprefs SQL table. A story on the other
> hand, correctly looks at the gl_userprefs, and displays the FCK editor
> by default for users that have it checked in their preferences.
> 
> I've been poking around in plugins/staticpages as well as
> public_html/staticpages/index.php, trying to find where it's deciding
> the selected value for Post Mode. When you edit a page that's already
> been set to advanced editor, it pulls up the FCK editor by default, so
> somewhere in the page it must be doing a query of the content of that
> page in the database to determine what Post Mode to set. If I could find
> that part of the code, it would be fairly easy to modify the query, if
> it's a new page to look ato the gl_userprefs to get a default value.
> 
> Can someone give me some guidance that's worked with the staticpages
> plugin before? I'm at a loss at this point.
> 
> Sam
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> -m


> "Ideas are like rabbits.  You get a couple and learn how to handle them,
> and pretty soon you have a dozen." --John Steinbeck (1902-1968)



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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Fri Apr 30 11:45:06 2010
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 11:45:06 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Static Pages Plugin and advanced editor
In-Reply-To: <4BDAE451.8010404@theleathers.net>
References: <4BDAE451.8010404@theleathers.net>
Message-ID: <011801cae87c$1b843b80$528cb280$@net>

The Advance Editor is found under "Users and Submissions" and then the
"Submission Settings" section in the Geeklog Configuration.  The docs read
for this value

"Enable (if set to true) a WYSIWYG editor for story and comment submissions
and static pages. Geeklog ships with FCKeditor."

The docs do not mention using this as a default value for the post mode just
that it enables the WYSIWYG editor for submissions. This value also enables
the advance editor for admin, this is a different form than the "regular
editor" and it includes the FCKeditor as well as some other changes. The
docs should probably be changed for this to read something like:

"Enable (if set to true) a WYSIWYG editor for Story and Comment Submissions.
Also enables the Advanced Editor Admin form for Story and Static Pages.
Geeklog ships with FCKeditor."

If you want a config value for default post modes for the admin editors then
this should be a separate config value (one for stories and one for
staticpages)


BYW the spot to add a check for a default postmode for staticpages would be
put in the index.php file found under
\public_html\admin\plugins\staticpages\ around line 95

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Samuel
Leathers
Sent: April-30-10 10:08 AM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Static Pages Plugin and advanced editor

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I'm not sure if this is a bug, by design or something missing in my
configuration. When I create a new static page, it defaults to a Post
Mode of HTML formatted, rather than looking at the value of
advanced_editor in the gl_userprefs SQL table. A story on the other
hand, correctly looks at the gl_userprefs, and displays the FCK editor
by default for users that have it checked in their preferences.

I've been poking around in plugins/staticpages as well as
public_html/staticpages/index.php, trying to find where it's deciding
the selected value for Post Mode. When you edit a page that's already
been set to advanced editor, it pulls up the FCK editor by default, so
somewhere in the page it must be doing a query of the content of that
page in the database to determine what Post Mode to set. If I could find
that part of the code, it would be fairly easy to modify the query, if
it's a new page to look ato the gl_userprefs to get a default value.

Can someone give me some guidance that's worked with the staticpages
plugin before? I'm at a loss at this point.

Sam
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From sam at theleathers.net  Fri Apr 30 12:13:08 2010
From: sam at theleathers.net (Samuel Leathers)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 12:13:08 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Static Pages Plugin and advanced editor
In-Reply-To: <011801cae87c$1b843b80$528cb280$@net>
References: <4BDAE451.8010404@theleathers.net>
	<011801cae87c$1b843b80$528cb280$@net>
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In the Users and Submissions -> Submission Settings, if I set the
Advanced Editor to true, and save, it resets to false.

I wasn't exactly sure what this is supposed to do, since to get the
advanced editor to work, you have to manually modify the site config. My
one thought was that this was going to replace the manual editing of the
site config, but I'm new around here, so not sure what it's purpose is.
As far as I can tell, it makes no difference if it's set to false, as
long as advanced editor is set in siteconfig, and the userprefs
advanced_editor is set to 1, it appears, the advanced editor works with
stories. Now, with staticpages, it didn't, but if you see my previous
e-mail, I made a patch that does make it work.

Sam

On 4/30/10 11:45 AM, Tom wrote:
> The Advance Editor is found under "Users and Submissions" and then the
> "Submission Settings" section in the Geeklog Configuration.  The docs read
> for this value
> 
> "Enable (if set to true) a WYSIWYG editor for story and comment submissions
> and static pages. Geeklog ships with FCKeditor."
> 
> The docs do not mention using this as a default value for the post mode just
> that it enables the WYSIWYG editor for submissions. This value also enables
> the advance editor for admin, this is a different form than the "regular
> editor" and it includes the FCKeditor as well as some other changes. The
> docs should probably be changed for this to read something like:
> 
> "Enable (if set to true) a WYSIWYG editor for Story and Comment Submissions.
> Also enables the Advanced Editor Admin form for Story and Static Pages.
> Geeklog ships with FCKeditor."
> 
> If you want a config value for default post modes for the admin editors then
> this should be a separate config value (one for stories and one for
> staticpages)
> 
> 
> BYW the spot to add a check for a default postmode for staticpages would be
> put in the index.php file found under
> \public_html\admin\plugins\staticpages\ around line 95
> 
> Tom
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
> [mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Samuel
> Leathers
> Sent: April-30-10 10:08 AM
> To: Geeklog Development
> Subject: [geeklog-devel] Static Pages Plugin and advanced editor
> 
> I'm not sure if this is a bug, by design or something missing in my
> configuration. When I create a new static page, it defaults to a Post
> Mode of HTML formatted, rather than looking at the value of
> advanced_editor in the gl_userprefs SQL table. A story on the other
> hand, correctly looks at the gl_userprefs, and displays the FCK editor
> by default for users that have it checked in their preferences.
> 
> I've been poking around in plugins/staticpages as well as
> public_html/staticpages/index.php, trying to find where it's deciding
> the selected value for Post Mode. When you edit a page that's already
> been set to advanced editor, it pulls up the FCK editor by default, so
> somewhere in the page it must be doing a query of the content of that
> page in the database to determine what Post Mode to set. If I could find
> that part of the code, it would be fairly easy to modify the query, if
> it's a new page to look ato the gl_userprefs to get a default value.
> 
> Can someone give me some guidance that's worked with the staticpages
> plugin before? I'm at a loss at this point.
> 
> Sam
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Fri Apr 30 16:08:44 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 22:08:44 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Static Pages Plugin and advanced editor
In-Reply-To: <4BDAFB2A.7080708@theleathers.net>
References: <4BDAE451.8010404@theleathers.net>
	<4BDAF3E4.5080005@the-howards.net> <4BDAFB2A.7080708@theleathers.net>
Message-ID: <20100430200844.1608772606@smtp.haun-online.de>

Samuel Leathers wrote:

>Please look it over when you get the chance and give me
>any feedback regarding coding style or functionality.

Haven't check the functionality, but here are some comments on the patch
itself:

- Please use unified diffs[1], i.e diff -u, since that provides some
context and improves chances that the patch can be applied when the line
numbers change

- Our Coding Guidelines[2] ask for the opening { to go at the end of a line

- When requesting only one value from the db, instead of DB_query
("SELECT advanced_editor FROM {$_TABLES['userprefs']} WHERE uid = {$_USER
['uid']};"); use

    DB_getItem($_TABLES['userprefs'], 'advanced_editor', "uid = {$_USER
['uid']}");

- You don't actually need to do that, though, since $_USER
['advanced_editor'] already contains that value (even for the Anonymous user)

Sorry for finding so much to criticise for so little code ;-) You may
want to open an issue in our bugtracker for that, btw, as it's a bit
late to include it in 1.7.0 and we don't want it to get lost.

Thanks for your efforts!

bye, Dirk

[1] http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Submitting_Patches
[2] http://wiki.geeklog.net/index.php/Coding_Guidelines


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Fri Apr 30 16:17:57 2010
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 22:17:57 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Static Pages Plugin and advanced editor
In-Reply-To: <4BDB0194.1010607@theleathers.net>
References: <4BDAE451.8010404@theleathers.net>
	<011801cae87c$1b843b80$528cb280$@net>
	<4BDB0194.1010607@theleathers.net>
Message-ID: <20100430201757.19466236@smtp.haun-online.de>

Samuel Leathers wrote:

>In the Users and Submissions -> Submission Settings, if I set the
>Advanced Editor to true, and save, it resets to false.

It shouldn't do that (and doesn't for me). Are you overwriting that
setting in your siteconfig.php?


>I wasn't exactly sure what this is supposed to do, since to get the
>advanced editor to work, you have to manually modify the site config.

Again, that's not what's supposed to happen. Please note, though, that
there are two options for the Advanced Editor now: The global setting in
the Configuration and the user's setting in My Account. The latter takes
precedence (obviously).


>As far as I can tell, it makes no difference if it's set to false, as
>long as advanced editor is set in siteconfig

You shouldn't set things in the siteconfig.php that are also available
in the Configuration panel.

Settings in siteconfig.php overwrite those in the Configuration. That's
a feature, necessary for things like root_debug (when you have an error
that prevents you from logging in and changing the setting in the
Configuration). But it shouldn't be used in everyday use or it'll only
cause confusion.

bye, Dirk


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From websitemaster at cogeco.net  Fri Apr 30 16:39:47 2010
From: websitemaster at cogeco.net (Tom)
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2010 16:39:47 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Static Pages Plugin and advanced editor
In-Reply-To: <011801cae87c$1b843b80$528cb280$@net>
References: <4BDAE451.8010404@theleathers.net>
	<011801cae87c$1b843b80$528cb280$@net>
Message-ID: <013b01cae8a5$462c32b0$d2849810$@net>

> If you want a config value for default post modes for the admin editors
then
> this should be a separate config value (one for stories and one for
> staticpages)

Ahh the user preference, I missed that.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Tom
Sent: April-30-10 11:45 AM
To: 'Geeklog Development'
Subject: Re: [geeklog-devel] Static Pages Plugin and advanced editor

The Advance Editor is found under "Users and Submissions" and then the
"Submission Settings" section in the Geeklog Configuration.  The docs read
for this value

"Enable (if set to true) a WYSIWYG editor for story and comment submissions
and static pages. Geeklog ships with FCKeditor."

The docs do not mention using this as a default value for the post mode just
that it enables the WYSIWYG editor for submissions. This value also enables
the advance editor for admin, this is a different form than the "regular
editor" and it includes the FCKeditor as well as some other changes. The
docs should probably be changed for this to read something like:

"Enable (if set to true) a WYSIWYG editor for Story and Comment Submissions.
Also enables the Advanced Editor Admin form for Story and Static Pages.
Geeklog ships with FCKeditor."

If you want a config value for default post modes for the admin editors then
this should be a separate config value (one for stories and one for
staticpages)


BYW the spot to add a check for a default postmode for staticpages would be
put in the index.php file found under
\public_html\admin\plugins\staticpages\ around line 95

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net
[mailto:geeklog-devel-bounces at lists.geeklog.net] On Behalf Of Samuel
Leathers
Sent: April-30-10 10:08 AM
To: Geeklog Development
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Static Pages Plugin and advanced editor

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I'm not sure if this is a bug, by design or something missing in my
configuration. When I create a new static page, it defaults to a Post
Mode of HTML formatted, rather than looking at the value of
advanced_editor in the gl_userprefs SQL table. A story on the other
hand, correctly looks at the gl_userprefs, and displays the FCK editor
by default for users that have it checked in their preferences.

I've been poking around in plugins/staticpages as well as
public_html/staticpages/index.php, trying to find where it's deciding
the selected value for Post Mode. When you edit a page that's already
been set to advanced editor, it pulls up the FCK editor by default, so
somewhere in the page it must be doing a query of the content of that
page in the database to determine what Post Mode to set. If I could find
that part of the code, it would be fairly easy to modify the query, if
it's a new page to look ato the gl_userprefs to get a default value.

Can someone give me some guidance that's worked with the staticpages
plugin before? I'm at a loss at this point.

Sam
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