From tony at tonybibbs.com  Tue Aug  5 15:03:50 2003
From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 14:03:50 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Back up
Message-ID: <3F2FFF96.7000900@tonybibbs.com>

This is a test, if you get this the lists are back up.  Sorry for the 
inconvenience.

--Tony



From tony at tonybibbs.com  Tue Aug  5 16:46:17 2003
From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs)
Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2003 15:46:17 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Vinny
Message-ID: <3F301799.3000502@tonybibbs.com>

Wanted to touch base on GL2 stuff.  Hit me up in IRC when you get a chance.

--Tony



From dirk at haun-online.de  Thu Aug  7 18:15:31 2003
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 00:15:31 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] 1.3.8 bugfix release
Message-ID: <20030807221531.21697@smtp.haun-online.de>

I'm scheduling a 1.3.8 bugfix release for Friday or Saturday. Any last-
minute additions?

Also, I'd like to call this version 1.3.8sr1, even though there are no
security issues involved.

Line of though:

- We never really said what "sr" stands for - "security release" was an
obvious choice, but it could as well mean "service release".

- Vinny suggested 1.3.8-1 which I preferred for a while, but what if we
had to do a security release. How would we call that? 1.3.8sr1? Wouldn't
that cause even more confusion than we already have?

So I'm going with 1.3.8sr1, unless there are any objections. Are there?

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.haun-online.de/
http://www.macosx-faq.de/



From tony at tonybibbs.com  Thu Aug  7 18:36:41 2003
From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 17:36:41 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Spellchecking
Message-ID: <3F32D479.103@tonybibbs.com>

I have created a very simple PHP class that integrates spell checking 
into a PHP application.  I have attached the tarball to this message.  
After Dirk's bugfix release this weekend I plan on implementing the 
spell checking as an option in the 1.3.x.  This will requiring editing 
of some or all of GL's editors. I will probably start simple by adding 
it to the story and comment editors as they already support preview 
functionality making integration easy.  I'm open to suggestions on which 
of the other editors should have spellchecking capabilities.  Any forms 
which do not support the notion of previewing are going to take more 
work and we need to balance the power of this with the question of 'is 
it worth it'.

Blaine, as a personal suggestion, I'd love to see spell checking support 
added to the forum.  The attached tarball has a test page in it that 
would show you basically how it works and I think you will quickly see 
how easy it really will be to integrate into the forum since you already 
support the preview concept.  This spellchecker class will check the 
spelling on a bit of text and return that text back with all mispelled 
words highlighted.  You can customize how the highlight works through 
class methods but it defaults by using a span with a yellow background.  
It will also insert suggested corrections into the title attribute of 
the span tag so if you hover your mouse over the highlighted word you 
will see them.

FYI, this spell checker requires apsell/pspell be installed and PHP 
compiled with the --with-pspell option. 

Input (and testing) is encouraged.

--Tony





From dirk at haun-online.de  Thu Aug  7 18:44:21 2003
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 00:44:21 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Spellchecking
In-Reply-To: <3F32D479.103@tonybibbs.com>
References: <3F32D479.103@tonybibbs.com>
Message-ID: <20030807224421.15975@smtp.haun-online.de>

Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com> wrote:

>I have attached the tarball to this message.

... or maybe not ;-)


>FYI, this spell checker requires apsell/pspell be installed and PHP 
>compiled with the --with-pspell option. 

I wonder how many hosting service have that installed. Mine doesn't.

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.haun-online.de/
http://www.macosx-faq.de/



From tony at tonybibbs.com  Thu Aug  7 18:47:26 2003
From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs)
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2003 17:47:26 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Spellchecking
In-Reply-To: <20030807224421.15975@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <3F32D479.103@tonybibbs.com> <20030807224421.15975@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <3F32D6FE.7050407@tonybibbs.com>

Oops, here it is.

Yeah, ISP support is a problem and I intend to test a web-service 
version of this to get around it.  I'd still like to see it added as 
spellchecking seems to be a basic need of a CMS, IMHO.

--Tony

Dirk Haun wrote:

>Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com> wrote:
>
>  
>
>>I have attached the tarball to this message.
>>    
>>
>
>... or maybe not ;-)
>
>
>  
>
>>FYI, this spell checker requires apsell/pspell be installed and PHP 
>>compiled with the --with-pspell option. 
>>    
>>
>
>I wonder how many hosting service have that installed. Mine doesn't.
>
>bye, Dirk
>
>
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From geeklog at langfamily.ca  Thu Aug  7 19:22:28 2003
From: geeklog at langfamily.ca (Blaine Lang)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:22:28 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Spellchecking
References: <3F32D479.103@tonybibbs.com>
Message-ID: <002b01c35d3a$c4baab00$9a0a10ac@xpbl1>

I will give it a try Tony, I expect the biggest challenge is getting the
libraries installed.
I see there is a aspell Win32 compiled version so that will help me and many
others.

I see there are quite a few pspell functions in PHP as well.

Relationship between aspell and pspell, there appears to have been two
separate projects at one time but does not look like they are active. The
GNU Aspell (not sure if the team is different) appear to be the new active
project. Then there is talk about the GNU aspell replacing ispell.

I only see aspell libraries and it appears to be the main spelling project
now - is that what you understand as well?

Blaine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tony Bibbs" <tony at tonybibbs.com>
To: "Geeklog Development" <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 6:36 PM
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Spellchecking


> I have created a very simple PHP class that integrates spell checking
> into a PHP application.  I have attached the tarball to this message.
> After Dirk's bugfix release this weekend I plan on implementing the
> spell checking as an option in the 1.3.x.  This will requiring editing
> of some or all of GL's editors. I will probably start simple by adding
> it to the story and comment editors as they already support preview
> functionality making integration easy.  I'm open to suggestions on which
> of the other editors should have spellchecking capabilities.  Any forms
> which do not support the notion of previewing are going to take more
> work and we need to balance the power of this with the question of 'is
> it worth it'.
>
> Blaine, as a personal suggestion, I'd love to see spell checking support
> added to the forum.  The attached tarball has a test page in it that
> would show you basically how it works and I think you will quickly see
> how easy it really will be to integrate into the forum since you already
> support the preview concept.  This spellchecker class will check the
> spelling on a bit of text and return that text back with all mispelled
> words highlighted.  You can customize how the highlight works through
> class methods but it defaults by using a span with a yellow background.
> It will also insert suggested corrections into the title attribute of
> the span tag so if you hover your mouse over the highlighted word you
> will see them.
>
> FYI, this spell checker requires apsell/pspell be installed and PHP
> compiled with the --with-pspell option.
>
> Input (and testing) is encouraged.
>
> --Tony
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel



From geeklog at langfamily.ca  Thu Aug  7 19:23:11 2003
From: geeklog at langfamily.ca (Blaine Lang)
Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 19:23:11 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] 1.3.8 bugfix release
References: <20030807221531.21697@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <003101c35d3a$de349460$9a0a10ac@xpbl1>

Dirk,

I don't have any more changes that fall under the SR1 definition.

Blaine
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dirk Haun" <dirk at haun-online.de>
To: <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 6:15 PM
Subject: [geeklog-devel] 1.3.8 bugfix release


> I'm scheduling a 1.3.8 bugfix release for Friday or Saturday. Any last-
> minute additions?
> 
> Also, I'd like to call this version 1.3.8sr1, even though there are no
> security issues involved.
> 
> Line of though:
> 
> - We never really said what "sr" stands for - "security release" was an
> obvious choice, but it could as well mean "service release".
> 
> - Vinny suggested 1.3.8-1 which I preferred for a while, but what if we
> had to do a security release. How would we call that? 1.3.8sr1? Wouldn't
> that cause even more confusion than we already have?
> 
> So I'm going with 1.3.8sr1, unless there are any objections. Are there?
> 
> bye, Dirk
> 
> 
> -- 
> http://www.haun-online.de/
> http://www.macosx-faq.de/
> 
> _______________________________________________
> geeklog-devel mailing list
> geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
> http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel
> 



From mark.limburg at baesystems.com  Thu Aug  7 20:25:31 2003
From: mark.limburg at baesystems.com (LIMBURG, Mark)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 09:55:31 +0930 
Subject: [geeklog-devel] 1.3.8 bugfix release
Message-ID: <DB7A11EAA82C984BA0CFBA1469E0A45502C8EE2A@sbw2ex1.au.baesystems.com>

Howdy

 > Also, I'd like to call this version 1.3.8sr1, even though 
 > there are no security issues involved.

Why not 1.3.8.1 ?

 > - Vinny suggested 1.3.8-1 which I preferred for a while, but 
 > what if we had to do a security release. How would we call 
 > that? 1.3.8sr1? Wouldn't that cause even more confusion than 
 > we already have?

1.3.8.2 ?

Regards

Mark Limburg

Operations Support Team Leader
Information Services
BAE SYSTEMS Australia


From tony at tonybibbs.com  Fri Aug  8 08:54:43 2003
From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 07:54:43 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Spellchecking
In-Reply-To: <002b01c35d3a$c4baab00$9a0a10ac@xpbl1>
References: <3F32D479.103@tonybibbs.com> <002b01c35d3a$c4baab00$9a0a10ac@xpbl1>
Message-ID: <3F339D93.7000101@tonybibbs.com>

Frankly I'm confused by it all.  I actually needed aspell and pspell and 
the PHP manual says aspell is deprecated and to use the pspell 
libraries.  I guess instead of just getting it to work I should have dug 
into a bit more to understand the relationship and history but I 
didn't.  Obviously this would be an optional thing and if you don't want 
to hassle with it I think I could probably integrate it into the forum 
myself if you want.  Again, I think we are talking a matter of minutes 
not days.

--Tony

Blaine Lang wrote:

>I will give it a try Tony, I expect the biggest challenge is getting the
>libraries installed.
>I see there is a aspell Win32 compiled version so that will help me and many
>others.
>
>I see there are quite a few pspell functions in PHP as well.
>
>Relationship between aspell and pspell, there appears to have been two
>separate projects at one time but does not look like they are active. The
>GNU Aspell (not sure if the team is different) appear to be the new active
>project. Then there is talk about the GNU aspell replacing ispell.
>
>I only see aspell libraries and it appears to be the main spelling project
>now - is that what you understand as well?
>
>Blaine
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Tony Bibbs" <tony at tonybibbs.com>
>To: "Geeklog Development" <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
>Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 6:36 PM
>Subject: [geeklog-devel] Spellchecking
>
>
>  
>
>>I have created a very simple PHP class that integrates spell checking
>>into a PHP application.  I have attached the tarball to this message.
>>After Dirk's bugfix release this weekend I plan on implementing the
>>spell checking as an option in the 1.3.x.  This will requiring editing
>>of some or all of GL's editors. I will probably start simple by adding
>>it to the story and comment editors as they already support preview
>>functionality making integration easy.  I'm open to suggestions on which
>>of the other editors should have spellchecking capabilities.  Any forms
>>which do not support the notion of previewing are going to take more
>>work and we need to balance the power of this with the question of 'is
>>it worth it'.
>>
>>Blaine, as a personal suggestion, I'd love to see spell checking support
>>added to the forum.  The attached tarball has a test page in it that
>>would show you basically how it works and I think you will quickly see
>>how easy it really will be to integrate into the forum since you already
>>support the preview concept.  This spellchecker class will check the
>>spelling on a bit of text and return that text back with all mispelled
>>words highlighted.  You can customize how the highlight works through
>>class methods but it defaults by using a span with a yellow background.
>>It will also insert suggested corrections into the title attribute of
>>the span tag so if you hover your mouse over the highlighted word you
>>will see them.
>>
>>FYI, this spell checker requires apsell/pspell be installed and PHP
>>compiled with the --with-pspell option.
>>
>>Input (and testing) is encouraged.
>>
>>--Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>geeklog-devel mailing list
>>geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>>    
>>
>
>_______________________________________________
>geeklog-devel mailing list
>geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>  
>



From tony at tonybibbs.com  Fri Aug  8 08:57:21 2003
From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs)
Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 07:57:21 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] 1.3.8 bugfix release
In-Reply-To: <DB7A11EAA82C984BA0CFBA1469E0A45502C8EE2A@sbw2ex1.au.baesystems.com>
References: <DB7A11EAA82C984BA0CFBA1469E0A45502C8EE2A@sbw2ex1.au.baesystems.com>
Message-ID: <3F339E31.5090503@tonybibbs.com>

I'd only be concerned with those who might ask 'what does sr stand 
for'.  I think if you went with 1.3.8-1 for this weekend and 1.3.8-1sr1 
should a security patch be made avaiable that would be fine and still 
consistent with what we did in the past.

--Tony

LIMBURG, Mark wrote:

>Howdy
>
> > Also, I'd like to call this version 1.3.8sr1, even though 
> > there are no security issues involved.
>
>Why not 1.3.8.1 ?
>
> > - Vinny suggested 1.3.8-1 which I preferred for a while, but 
> > what if we had to do a security release. How would we call 
> > that? 1.3.8sr1? Wouldn't that cause even more confusion than 
> > we already have?
>
>1.3.8.2 ?
>
>Regards
>
>Mark Limburg
>
>Operations Support Team Leader
>Information Services
>BAE SYSTEMS Australia
>_______________________________________________
>geeklog-devel mailing list
>geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net
>http://lists.geeklog.net/listinfo/geeklog-devel
>  
>



From dirk at haun-online.de  Fri Aug  8 09:27:02 2003
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2003 15:27:02 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] 1.3.8 bugfix release
In-Reply-To: <3F339E31.5090503@tonybibbs.com>
References: <3F339E31.5090503@tonybibbs.com>
Message-ID: <20030808132702.10091@smtp.haun-online.de>

Tony Bibbs <tony at tonybibbs.com> wrote:

>I'd only be concerned with those who might ask 'what does sr stand 
>for'.  I think if you went with 1.3.8-1 for this weekend and 1.3.8-1sr1 
>should a security patch be made avaiable that would be fine and still 
>consistent with what we did in the past.

Hmm, you're right. I really would like to be able to tell people "if it
has 'sr' in the name, you will want to install it ASAP". Releasing an
'sr' version that's "only" a bugfix release would only confuse things ...

/me sighs

So it's 1.3.8-1 then?

bye, Dirk


-- 
http://www.haun-online.de/
http://www.tinyweb.de/



From dirk at haun-online.de  Tue Aug 12 17:27:54 2003
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 23:27:54 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] New Content Syndication
Message-ID: <20030812212754.2802@smtp.haun-online.de>

I've rewritten most of Geeklog's code that deals with the creation of RSS
feeds. There is now an Admin interface (admin/syndication.php) for it
that lets you create and configure feeds - no more fiddling around with
config.php settings.

Currently, you can create feeds for all stories (that's the same as we
had so far) and also feeds per topic. I'm planning to look into
implementing links for event and links, too.

Furthermore, plugins can now also offer feeds (through extensions of the
Plugin API). For demonstration purposes, I've written the necessary
functions for the File Management plugin (see attachment). Forum feeds
would also be a nice addition ...

And finally, I've moved the actual code that creates an RSS feed to a
class. The Admin interface will look for classes named xxx.feed.class.php
and will let the user select those as the format for the feed. In other
words: You can now create feeds in other formats.

For demonstration purposes, I've written the attached "Atom" class that
implements a feed according to the current draft specification of the
"Project without a name" <http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/>. Again,
see attachment.

All this (except the attachments) is in CVS now. You will need a fresh
install currently (or add the gl_syndication table manually).

Comments welcome ...

bye, Dirk


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From dirk at haun-online.de  Mon Aug 18 18:17:32 2003
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 00:17:32 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] FYI: "Project-without-a-name" progress
Message-ID: <20030818221732.4641@smtp.haun-online.de>

Just an FYI: While the Pie/Echo/Atom project still hasn't decided on a
new name, they did make some progress on the actual goals of the project.

A first implementation of that part of the specification that deals with
uploading and editing of posts has now been published. Have a look at

   http://diveintomark.org/archives/2003/08/18/atom_api_implementation

That article also has examples and demonstrates the use quite nicely.
Recommended reading for those who don't know WTF I'm talking about :-)

IMO, it looks promising and not too complicated (authorization is still
under discussion, though). It also allows for vendor-specific extensions
through the use of namespaces, so that we could sneak in any Geeklog-
specific stuff that way easily.

I have to admit that most of the discussions on the mailing list, IRC and
the Wiki are way over my head, but the above article shows that they're
on the right track.

/me wonders if we should commit to implementing this, as a number of
projects already have <http://www.intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/RoadMap#head-
74b5d46318b48115b07ab1a2e77cb22df987c284>. I guess the question is, if
we're going to implement it in the core code or if it should be
implemented as a plugin (similar to the blog plugin).

Tony, any thoughts from the GL2 point of view?

bye, Dirk


-- 
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http://www.tinyweb.de/



From dirk at haun-online.de  Wed Aug 20 15:20:07 2003
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 21:20:07 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Who are we
Message-ID: <20030820192007.15785@smtp.haun-online.de>

In the light of

    http://www.geeklog.net/article.php?story=20030818224145271

and the comment 

>you should note that those guys are actual developers

Do we need an "about us" or "about the team" page? I know, it's difficult
to draw a line and the lineup (pun intended) is always changing, too.

Just thinking out loud ...

bye, Dirk


-- 
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http://mypod.de/



From geeklog at langfamily.ca  Wed Aug 20 19:58:07 2003
From: geeklog at langfamily.ca (Blaine Lang)
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 19:58:07 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Who are we
References: <20030820192007.15785@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <008a01c36776$e7540170$9a0a10ac@xpbl1>

I wonder what isol8 meant by the comment?
Maybe it was just to clarify or maybe he has an issue with it.

I agree that it could not hurt as it's of interest to those exploring the
product and are not regualar site visitors.

Blaine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dirk Haun" <dirk at haun-online.de>
To: <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 3:20 PM
Subject: [geeklog-devel] Who are we


> In the light of
>
>     http://www.geeklog.net/article.php?story=20030818224145271
>
> and the comment
>
> >you should note that those guys are actual developers
>
> Do we need an "about us" or "about the team" page? I know, it's difficult
> to draw a line and the lineup (pun intended) is always changing, too.
>
> Just thinking out loud ...
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
> --
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>
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sat Aug 23 16:10:55 2003
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 22:10:55 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GL2 bug / PEAR and GL 1.3.x
Message-ID: <20030823201055.4482@smtp.haun-online.de>

Tony,

GL 2 question (surprised?) ;-)

In glcore.php you have:

if ($_CONF['have_pear']) {
    $curPHPIncludePath = ini_get('include_path');      
    ini_set('include_path', $curPHPIncludePath . ':' . $_CONF['path_pear']);
}  

Shouldn't that read "if (!$_CONF['have_pear'])"?
                        ^^^
Trying to decide if we should use PEAR::Mail or something else in Geeklog
1.3.x. <http://phpmailer.sourceforge.net/> looks interesting.

How much of a support nightmare can we expect when people have to install
PEAR manually? Or should we just include the needed classes and pre-
configure a $_CONF['path_pear'], so that they only need to flip
$_CONF['have_pear']?

bye, Dirk


-- 
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http://www.tinyweb.de/



From geeklog at langfamily.ca  Sat Aug 23 16:21:18 2003
From: geeklog at langfamily.ca (Blaine Lang)
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2003 16:21:18 -0400
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GL2 bug / PEAR and GL 1.3.x
References: <20030823201055.4482@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <014101c369b4$1c3ebfd0$9a0a10ac@xpbl1>

I'm using a couple PEAR classes in my new FMPro plugin and it's only a few
includes so I would be distributing it with the plugin.

Blaine
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dirk Haun" <dirk at haun-online.de>
To: <geeklog-devel at lists.geeklog.net>
Sent: Saturday, August 23, 2003 4:10 PM
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GL2 bug / PEAR and GL 1.3.x


> Tony,
>
> GL 2 question (surprised?) ;-)
>
> In glcore.php you have:
>
> if ($_CONF['have_pear']) {
>     $curPHPIncludePath = ini_get('include_path');
>     ini_set('include_path', $curPHPIncludePath . ':' .
$_CONF['path_pear']);
> }
>
> Shouldn't that read "if (!$_CONF['have_pear'])"?
>                         ^^^
> Trying to decide if we should use PEAR::Mail or something else in Geeklog
> 1.3.x. <http://phpmailer.sourceforge.net/> looks interesting.
>
> How much of a support nightmare can we expect when people have to install
> PEAR manually? Or should we just include the needed classes and pre-
> configure a $_CONF['path_pear'], so that they only need to flip
> $_CONF['have_pear']?
>
> bye, Dirk
>
>
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From dirk at haun-online.de  Sun Aug 24 16:55:39 2003
From: dirk at haun-online.de (Dirk Haun)
Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2003 22:55:39 +0200
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GL2 bug / PEAR and GL 1.3.x
In-Reply-To: <014101c369b4$1c3ebfd0$9a0a10ac@xpbl1>
References: <014101c369b4$1c3ebfd0$9a0a10ac@xpbl1>
Message-ID: <20030824205539.2438@smtp.haun-online.de>

Blaine Lang <geeklog at langfamily.ca> wrote:

>I'm using a couple PEAR classes in my new FMPro plugin and it's only a few
>includes so I would be distributing it with the plugin.

I've recompiled my PHP install without PEAR support now and kept on
adding PEAR classes until I could send mail through all 3 methods that
PEAR::Mail offers (PHP mail, sendmail, SMTP).

Turns out I needed the base PEAR package, Mail, Net/SMTP, and Net/Socket.
All that gzipped together is just under 100 KB, which isn't that bad.

I guess that's the way to go then ...

bye, Dirk


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From tony at tonybibbs.com  Mon Aug 25 09:12:08 2003
From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs)
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2003 08:12:08 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GL2 bug / PEAR and GL 1.3.x
In-Reply-To: <20030823201055.4482@smtp.haun-online.de>
References: <20030823201055.4482@smtp.haun-online.de>
Message-ID: <3F4A0B28.5050504@tonybibbs.com>

Yeah, you are best to just package it up.  In GL2 I plan on having two 
distro's, one with PEAR and one without.

Yeah, you have it right, the code should be like how you had it. 

--Tony

Dirk Haun wrote:

>Tony,
>
>GL 2 question (surprised?) ;-)
>
>In glcore.php you have:
>
>if ($_CONF['have_pear']) {
>    $curPHPIncludePath = ini_get('include_path');      
>    ini_set('include_path', $curPHPIncludePath . ':' . $_CONF['path_pear']);
>}  
>
>Shouldn't that read "if (!$_CONF['have_pear'])"?
>                        ^^^
>Trying to decide if we should use PEAR::Mail or something else in Geeklog
>1.3.x. <http://phpmailer.sourceforge.net/> looks interesting.
>
>How much of a support nightmare can we expect when people have to install
>PEAR manually? Or should we just include the needed classes and pre-
>configure a $_CONF['path_pear'], so that they only need to flip
>$_CONF['have_pear']?
>
>bye, Dirk
>
>
>  
>



From tony at tonybibbs.com  Wed Aug 27 23:32:35 2003
From: tony at tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs)
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 22:32:35 -0500
Subject: [geeklog-devel] GL2 - MVCnPHP package updated
Message-ID: <3F4D77D3.1010602@tonybibbs.com>

After sitting idle a bit, I have updated the MVCnPHP package in CVS. 
The current release fixes a number of bugs and adds some features we'll 
need.  Many of these change came from work on a PHP application I have 
been doing at work and will fit nicely into what I had envisioned for 
GL2.  That being said, I plan to update the geeklog-2 tree soon with a 
framework that extends the objects found in MVCnPHP to meet our needs in 
Geeklog 2.

The current MVC work is all based on PHP4 (4.3.3 to be exact).  I will 
be porting this package to PHP5 this weekend.

What does all this mean?  This basically means that my time is now going 
to focus on implementing A&A and after that it's working out the design 
for the module API.  I have a long weekend in Wisconsin that I normally 
use to fish but I have decided to leave the rod at home to work on GL2. 
  With any luck, I should have a lot of good news next week.

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|Tony Bibbs         |[R]egardless of what you may think of our penal   |
|tony at tonybibbs.com |system, the fact is that every man in jail is one |
|                   |less potential fisherman to clutter up your       |
|                   |favorite pool or pond. --Ed Zern                  | 

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